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"Tim Bruening" |
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03 Oct 2006 04:25:29 AM |
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Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
wrote:
I guess it's hard to take that they aren't greeted as liberators...
I am a strong Bush supporter. I agreed with the war in Iraq when we
started, as did most Americans at the time. However, I believe nobody
anticipated that we'd still be fighting it years later with no end in
sight. Had the war lasted 3 weeks and all was well in Iraq right now
as was planned, everybody would be calling Bush a hero. As it turns
out, he took a gamble and what looked like a sure-thing, and he lost.
But now we're stuck with the situation and Bush gets all the blame.
(even though the majority of the US should be to blame because he
wouldn't have started the war in the first place with the kind of
support he has now)
Also keep in mind, Bush is in a really sticky situation. Over half the
US and the world is calling for a pull-out of troops. If he doesn't
do it, he gets flamed. If he DOES do it, and Iraq falls into civil
war, he'll get blamed for that too. So, if you were in his situation
(regardless of what you would have done up until now) what would you do?
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
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| User: "Exhibitionist" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
03 Oct 2006 05:13:20 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
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| User: "Tim Bruening" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
04 Oct 2006 06:22:42 PM |
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Exhibitionist wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
To which we can say "We will be happy to get out, as soon as the sectarian
violence and the insurgency stop!". This would certainly give them reason to
make peace!
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| User: "Elvis Gump" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
04 Oct 2006 08:14:13 PM |
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in article 45244242.796DCC7C@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us, Tim Bruening at
tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us on 10/4/06 6:22 PM:busted out this wacky *****:
Exhibitionist wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
To which we can say "We will be happy to get out, as soon as the sectarian
violence and the insurgency stop!". This would certainly give them reason to
make peace!
You so funny!
Last I read today I think 19 US soldiers are dead this month in Iraq. That's
19 dead in four days of October.
God Bless America.
--
"Personally, I think, uh... they don't really want to be involved in this
war. You know, I mean... they sort of took away our freedom and gave it to
the, to the gookers, you know. But they don't want it. They'd rather be
alive than free, I guess. Poor dumb bastards."
-- Eightball, "Full Metal Jacket"
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| User: "Tim Bruening" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
05 Oct 2006 03:06:12 AM |
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Elvis Gump wrote:
in article 45244242.796DCC7C@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us, Tim Bruening at
tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us on 10/4/06 6:22 PM:busted out this wacky *****:
Exhibitionist wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
To which we can say "We will be happy to get out, as soon as the sectarian
violence and the insurgency stop!". This would certainly give them reason to
make peace!
You so funny!
Last I read today I think 19 US soldiers are dead this month in Iraq. That's
19 dead in four days of October.
God Bless America.
Peanuts! I've read that we lost tens of thousands on D-Day!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
05 Oct 2006 03:19:08 AM |
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Tim Bruening wrote:
Elvis Gump wrote:
in article 45244242.796DCC7C@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us, Tim Bruening at
tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us on 10/4/06 6:22 PM:busted out this wacky *****:
Exhibitionist wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
To which we can say "We will be happy to get out, as soon as the sectarian
violence and the insurgency stop!". This would certainly give them reason to
make peace!
You so funny!
Last I read today I think 19 US soldiers are dead this month in Iraq. That's
19 dead in four days of October.
God Bless America.
Peanuts! I've read that we lost tens of thousands on D-Day!
Its more like 6000 (thats total Allied fatalities).
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| User: "Elvis Gump" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
05 Oct 2006 08:50:59 AM |
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in article 4524BCF4.AF36F88@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us, Tim Bruening at
tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us on 10/5/06 3:06 AM:busted out this wacky *****:
Elvis Gump wrote:
in article 45244242.796DCC7C@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us, Tim Bruening at
tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us on 10/4/06 6:22 PM:busted out this wacky *****:
Exhibitionist wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:25:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> text-messaged me, saying:
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq
so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to
suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from
Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan
an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
The Iraqi factions answer: "Go f\/uck yourself and get out of my
country!"
Pie in the sky.
To which we can say "We will be happy to get out, as soon as the sectarian
violence and the insurgency stop!". This would certainly give them reason
to
make peace!
You so funny!
Last I read today I think 19 US soldiers are dead this month in Iraq. That's
19 dead in four days of October.
God Bless America.
Peanuts! I've read that we lost tens of thousands on D-Day!
Have we been there in Iraq longer than we were in WWII at that point?
Is Osama harder to kill that Hitler?
When will we know the War on Terror is over?
Will an abstract noun sign the documents of surrender?
Did Godwin ever take any of this into account?
--
"Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good
for dandruff."
-- Peter de Vries
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| User: "whodunit" |
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| Title: Re: 2nd season opener swipe at Bush? |
04 Oct 2006 12:28:44 AM |
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Tim Bruening wrote:
adric22@yahoo.com wrote:
I guess it's hard to take that they aren't greeted as liberators...
I am a strong Bush supporter. I agreed with the war in Iraq when we
started, as did most Americans at the time. However, I believe nobody
anticipated that we'd still be fighting it years later with no end in
sight. Had the war lasted 3 weeks and all was well in Iraq right now
as was planned, everybody would be calling Bush a hero. As it turns
out, he took a gamble and what looked like a sure-thing, and he lost.
But now we're stuck with the situation and Bush gets all the blame.
(even though the majority of the US should be to blame because he
wouldn't have started the war in the first place with the kind of
support he has now)
Also keep in mind, Bush is in a really sticky situation. Over half the
US and the world is calling for a pull-out of troops. If he doesn't
do it, he gets flamed. If he DOES do it, and Iraq falls into civil
war, he'll get blamed for that too. So, if you were in his situation
(regardless of what you would have done up until now) what would you do?
Call for a conference on Iraq involving Iraq's major factions, Iraq's
neighbors, the U.S., Europe, and Russia to discuss how to stabilize Iraq so
that we can get out of there. Propose that Iraq offer some of its oil
revenues to its neighbors in return for those neighbors helping to suppress
the insurgency and the sectarian militias. Propose oil pipelines from Iraq
to Israel passing through Syria and Jordan, thus giving Syria and Jordan an
incentive to make peace with Israel!
Divide Iraq into 3 countries--SunniIraq, KurdishIraq, and ShiaIraq.
Problem solved.
Can we move on now??
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