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Date: 13 Jul 2004 06:10:58 AM
Object: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce
"Warren Stupidity" <weaselMark@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:09:16 -0400, "Edwards Says Bush was Right !"
<Edwards Flip Flopper@aol.com> wrote:


"Superdude" <superdude@flavorcountry.com> wrote in message
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Edwards Says Bush was Right ! wrote:

AP Poll: Bush Gains Slight Lead Over Kerry


By RON FOURNIER
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 8, 2004; 4:56 PM



The AP-Ipsos poll found Bush leading Kerry just outside the margin of

error,

with the president's support at 49 percent, Kerry at 45 percent and
independent candidate Ralph Nader at 3 percent. The Bush-Kerry

matchup

was

tied a month ago, when Nader had 6 percent



If you read the whole post you'll realize that Bush's job is in

jeopardy.




http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/09/1089000321612.html?oneclick=tr

ue

===============

Yeah. We all heard that in 1988 too from you libs when Dukakis was

leading

Bush by 17 % in july. Then the actual poll in Nov 4 months later showed
Bush winning 49 states.


First you quote a poll to push your side, then when confronted by the
fact that this same poll, while showing a slim lead for your
candidate, also indicates growing dissatisfaction for this same
candidate's (the incumbent) job performance, you declare that polls
are meaningless.

"Who makes you feel more optimistic about America's future?"
* Bush, 50 percent
* Kerry, 44 percent
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/07/12/politics0155EDT0410.DTL&type=printable
.

User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."

Title: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce 13 Jul 2004 08:32:06 AM
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:10:58 GMT, "Only 62% view Kerry as Likeable"
<KerryALoser@Kerry.net> wrote:


"Warren Stupidity" <weaselMark@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:09:16 -0400, "Edwards Says Bush was Right !"
<Edwards Flip Flopper@aol.com> wrote:


"Superdude" <superdude@flavorcountry.com> wrote in message
news:i4GdnRumO9-X1W7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...

Edwards Says Bush was Right ! wrote:

AP Poll: Bush Gains Slight Lead Over Kerry


By RON FOURNIER
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 8, 2004; 4:56 PM



The AP-Ipsos poll found Bush leading Kerry just outside the margin of

error,

with the president's support at 49 percent, Kerry at 45 percent and
independent candidate Ralph Nader at 3 percent. The Bush-Kerry

matchup

was

tied a month ago, when Nader had 6 percent



If you read the whole post you'll realize that Bush's job is in

jeopardy.




http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/09/1089000321612.html?oneclick=tr

ue

===============

Yeah. We all heard that in 1988 too from you libs when Dukakis was

leading

Bush by 17 % in july. Then the actual poll in Nov 4 months later showed
Bush winning 49 states.


First you quote a poll to push your side, then when confronted by the
fact that this same poll, while showing a slim lead for your
candidate, also indicates growing dissatisfaction for this same
candidate's (the incumbent) job performance, you declare that polls
are meaningless.



"Who makes you feel more optimistic about America's future?"

* Bush, 50 percent
* Kerry, 44 percent

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/07/12/politics0155EDT0410.DTL&type=printable

That's from a poll which included interviews before Edwards was
announced.
Since then there have been seven polls, all showing Kerry in the lead.
When Bush announces his selection of Cheney as his VP, what is going
to be the reaction?
Cheney has the same personality as that creepy guy in Lord of the
Rings wearing the diaper. Remember him? Creepy little guy?
That's Cheney.
.
User: "gaffo"

Title: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce 13 Jul 2004 08:11:17 PM
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:


Cheney has the same personality as that creepy guy in Lord of the
Rings wearing the diaper. Remember him? Creepy little guy?

That's Cheney.

was this just serendipity - or are you giving tribute to Mark Fiore?
--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml
http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm
As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.
Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)
"It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who
were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo.
If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named
George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the
Republican Party.
Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine
"But I believe in torture and I will torture you."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.
"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of our country.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter
"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.
"the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister
"Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said."
Houston Chronicle 4/9/99
"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to
destabilize their country."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004
"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major
incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.
"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (usenet)
"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.
"I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up
and running
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can put it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow us to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04
"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rumsfeld 4/6/04
"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bush the Crusader
RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose?
BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.
RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do?
BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the country.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04
"And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04
"Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
- Vice President ***** Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03
"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nuclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03
"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project
conventional power against his neighbours."
- Colin Powell February 24 2001
"We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful."
"He threatens not the United States."
"But I also thought that we had pretty
much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."
'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell February 26 2001
.
User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."

Title: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce 13 Jul 2004 09:44:03 PM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:11:17 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:

George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:



Cheney has the same personality as that creepy guy in Lord of the
Rings wearing the diaper. Remember him? Creepy little guy?

That's Cheney.




was this just serendipity - or are you giving tribute to Mark Fiore?

I had never heard of Mark Fiore until I read what you posted.
I take it he has had the same idea that came to me.
It's a natural.
Cheney really is like that guy.
.
User: "gaffo"

Title: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce 14 Jul 2004 06:38:42 PM
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:11:17 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:


George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:



Cheney has the same personality as that creepy guy in Lord of the
Rings wearing the diaper. Remember him? Creepy little guy?

That's Cheney.




was this just serendipity - or are you giving tribute to Mark Fiore?



I had never heard of Mark Fiore until I read what you posted.

I take it he has had the same idea that came to me.

It's a natural.

Cheney really is like that guy.


http://www.markfiore.com/animation.html
I looked for the one where he's Gollum..............down in a cave
(secret shadow gov. location) hording his model oilwells on an Iraqi map.
Its about a yr old, but could find not it for ya..........its there
somewhere. I used "Flashdown" to collect his works - Mark is a Genius
and an artist worthy of mentioning and promoting.
You need the "Flash" pluggin to watch the cartoons.
enjoy!
--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml
http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm
As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.
Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)
"It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who
were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo.
If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named
George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the
Republican Party.
Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine
"But I believe in torture and I will torture you."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.
"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of our country.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter
"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.
"the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister
"Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said."
Houston Chronicle 4/9/99
"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to
destabilize their country."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004
"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major
incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.
"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (usenet)
"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.
"I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up
and running
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can put it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow us to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04
"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rumsfeld 4/6/04
"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bush the Crusader
RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose?
BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.
RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do?
BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the country.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04
"And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04
"Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
- Vice President ***** Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03
"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nuclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03
"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project
conventional power against his neighbours."
- Colin Powell February 24 2001
"We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful."
"He threatens not the United States."
"But I also thought that we had pretty
much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."
'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell February 26 2001
.
User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."

Title: Re: AP Poll ; Kerry Tanks with No Edwards Bounce 14 Jul 2004 09:45:50 PM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:38:42 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:

George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:11:17 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:


George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:



Cheney has the same personality as that creepy guy in Lord of the
Rings wearing the diaper. Remember him? Creepy little guy?

That's Cheney.




was this just serendipity - or are you giving tribute to Mark Fiore?



I had never heard of Mark Fiore until I read what you posted.

I take it he has had the same idea that came to me.

It's a natural.

Cheney really is like that guy.




http://www.markfiore.com/animation.html


I looked for the one where he's Gollum..............down in a cave
(secret shadow gov. location) hording his model oilwells on an Iraqi map.

Its about a yr old, but could find not it for ya..........its there
somewhere. I used "Flashdown" to collect his works - Mark is a Genius
and an artist worthy of mentioning and promoting.

Thanks. I'll bookmark him and get the pluggins.
Usenet is the best place to learn I've yet found.


You need the "Flash" pluggin to watch the cartoons.

enjoy!

.






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