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User: "Tiny Human Ferret"
Date: 21 Apr 2005 07:19:45 AM
Object: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens..
NerdRevenge wrote:

Today at a speech he made in San Francisco, Arnold say there is another way
to stop illegals..

"CLOSE THE BORDER."


http://www.nbc11.com/news/4395777/detail.html

NBC11.com
Schwarzenegger's Comments Stir Debate Over Border

POSTED: 4:54 pm PDT April 19, 2005
UPDATED: 5:00 pm PDT April 19, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is stirring up an angry debate with his
suggestion to close the border between California and Mexico.

He spoke at a newspaper publisher's convention in San Francisco Tuesday.

He offered what's being characterized as a controversial opinion on
immigration reform.

"Close the borders between California and all across Mexico. I think it's
unfair to have all those people coming across," he said.

Some are calling Schwarzenegger's stand a 180-degree turn from more positive
comments he has made in the past.

Considering how difficult it is to immigrate legally and become a
citizen -- which Gov. Schwarzenegger has done -- I can't blame him if
he's feeling a little resentful of all of the beggars sneaking across.
Besides, I think it's finally gotten through to him where all of the
money for MediCal went to... it's been paying for illegal Mexican
mothers to raise their Anchor Babies.
Not to mention what's become of the once-proud California Public
Education System.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
==================================================================
"Sometimes, Evil drives a mini-van."
--Desperate Housewives
.

User: "Bunn E. Rabbit"

Title: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens.. 21 Apr 2005 10:02:36 PM
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:45 -0400, Tiny Human Ferret
<ixnayamspay_klaatu@earthops.net> wrote:

NerdRevenge wrote:

Today at a speech he made in San Francisco, Arnold say there is another way
to stop illegals..

"CLOSE THE BORDER."


http://www.nbc11.com/news/4395777/detail.html

NBC11.com
Schwarzenegger's Comments Stir Debate Over Border

POSTED: 4:54 pm PDT April 19, 2005
UPDATED: 5:00 pm PDT April 19, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is stirring up an angry debate with his
suggestion to close the border between California and Mexico.

He spoke at a newspaper publisher's convention in San Francisco Tuesday.

He offered what's being characterized as a controversial opinion on
immigration reform.

"Close the borders between California and all across Mexico. I think it's
unfair to have all those people coming across," he said.

Some are calling Schwarzenegger's stand a 180-degree turn from more positive
comments he has made in the past.


Considering how difficult it is to immigrate legally and become a
citizen -- which Gov. Schwarzenegger has done -- I can't blame him if
he's feeling a little resentful of all of the beggars sneaking across.

Besides, I think it's finally gotten through to him where all of the
money for MediCal went to... it's been paying for illegal Mexican
mothers to raise their Anchor Babies.

And those so-called 'liberals' in certain yuppie Cal. communities are
now either leaving or denying education to the illegals by forcing
them to go to school in the town they live in. Because the illegals
refuse to learn English as well as bringing crime to the schools.
Funny how they did not care when it happened in someone else's
community.
--
Keith


Not to mention what's become of the once-proud California Public
Education System.

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User: "Graphic Queen"

Title: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens.. 22 Apr 2005 09:39:20 AM
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:02:36 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:45 -0400, Tiny Human Ferret
<ixnayamspay_klaatu@earthops.net> wrote:

NerdRevenge wrote:

Today at a speech he made in San Francisco, Arnold say there is another way
to stop illegals..

"CLOSE THE BORDER."


http://www.nbc11.com/news/4395777/detail.html

NBC11.com
Schwarzenegger's Comments Stir Debate Over Border

POSTED: 4:54 pm PDT April 19, 2005
UPDATED: 5:00 pm PDT April 19, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is stirring up an angry debate with his
suggestion to close the border between California and Mexico.

He spoke at a newspaper publisher's convention in San Francisco Tuesday.

He offered what's being characterized as a controversial opinion on
immigration reform.

"Close the borders between California and all across Mexico. I think it's
unfair to have all those people coming across," he said.

Some are calling Schwarzenegger's stand a 180-degree turn from more positive
comments he has made in the past.


Considering how difficult it is to immigrate legally and become a
citizen -- which Gov. Schwarzenegger has done -- I can't blame him if
he's feeling a little resentful of all of the beggars sneaking across.

Besides, I think it's finally gotten through to him where all of the
money for MediCal went to... it's been paying for illegal Mexican
mothers to raise their Anchor Babies.


And those so-called 'liberals' in certain yuppie Cal. communities are
now either leaving or denying education to the illegals by forcing
them to go to school in the town they live in. Because the illegals
refuse to learn English as well as bringing crime to the schools.
Funny how they did not care when it happened in someone else's
community.

You are so correct and it will be funny when it also happens to the
Republican elite. They will be moving into their neighborhoods and
raping their daughters and such. And then they will go after them.
GQ
.

User: "pablito"

Title: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens.. 21 Apr 2005 11:31:25 PM
What the hell is unfair about closing the borders.
The United States is for United States Citizens
and those who desire to follow the rules and
procedures in entering the United States of America.
To come here illegally, Then being shot sneaking across the border in a
manor as a terrorist would, is only the\
United states defending its Security and putting its
Citizens safety first and foremost, as should be done.
You come sneaking into my house under the cover of darkness, and I am going
to put as many holes in your sorry hide as it takes to insure that YOU are
not a
threat to my family or myself.
The border is no different.
You have NO right to enter my home, and you sure have
no right to enter my country.
Pablito
********************************************
"Bunn E. Rabbit" <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
news:o1qg61tht4origv44q6octvmrhj2d7m3a2@4ax.com...

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:45 -0400, Tiny Human Ferret
<ixnayamspay_klaatu@earthops.net> wrote:

NerdRevenge wrote:

Today at a speech he made in San Francisco, Arnold say there is another

way

to stop illegals..

"CLOSE THE BORDER."


http://www.nbc11.com/news/4395777/detail.html

NBC11.com
Schwarzenegger's Comments Stir Debate Over Border

POSTED: 4:54 pm PDT April 19, 2005
UPDATED: 5:00 pm PDT April 19, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is stirring up an angry debate with his
suggestion to close the border between California and Mexico.

He spoke at a newspaper publisher's convention in San Francisco

Tuesday.


He offered what's being characterized as a controversial opinion on
immigration reform.

"Close the borders between California and all across Mexico. I think

it's

unfair to have all those people coming across," he said.

Some are calling Schwarzenegger's stand a 180-degree turn from more

positive

comments he has made in the past.


Considering how difficult it is to immigrate legally and become a
citizen -- which Gov. Schwarzenegger has done -- I can't blame him if
he's feeling a little resentful of all of the beggars sneaking across.

Besides, I think it's finally gotten through to him where all of the
money for MediCal went to... it's been paying for illegal Mexican
mothers to raise their Anchor Babies.


And those so-called 'liberals' in certain yuppie Cal. communities are
now either leaving or denying education to the illegals by forcing
them to go to school in the town they live in. Because the illegals
refuse to learn English as well as bringing crime to the schools.
Funny how they did not care when it happened in someone else's
community.

--
Keith



Not to mention what's become of the once-proud California Public
Education System.


-------------------------------------

Fed up with illegal immigration?
_____
http://idexer.com
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/listarticles.cgi?117
http://www.saveourstate.org
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA.htm
http://www.americanpatrol.com/LINKS/LINKS.html
http://www.vdare.com/links.htm
http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/links/
_____

"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death
of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
_____

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon
_____

"I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature

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User: "Juan"

Title: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens.. 22 Apr 2005 09:44:00 AM
<< and you sure have
no right to enter my country. >>
It's not your country Bubba. You gave up your rights when you became a
domestic terrorist and a racist.
.



User: "Raymond"

Title: Re: Arnold says there is another way to stop illegal aliens.. 22 Apr 2005 03:53:33 PM
Tiny Human Ferret wrote:

NerdRevenge wrote:

Today at a speech he made in San Francisco, Arnold say there is

another way

to stop illegals..

"CLOSE THE BORDER."


http://www.nbc11.com/news/4395777/detail.html

NBC11.com
Schwarzenegger's Comments Stir Debate Over Border

POSTED: 4:54 pm PDT April 19, 2005
UPDATED: 5:00 pm PDT April 19, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is stirring up an angry debate with his
suggestion to close the border between California and Mexico.

He spoke at a newspaper publisher's convention in San Francisco

Tuesday.


He offered what's being characterized as a controversial opinion on
immigration reform.

"Close the borders between California and all across Mexico. I

think it's

unfair to have all those people coming across," he said.

Some are calling Schwarzenegger's stand a 180-degree turn from more

positive

comments he has made in the past.


Considering how difficult it is to immigrate legally and become a
citizen -- which Gov. Schwarzenegger has done -- I can't blame him if
he's feeling a little resentful of all of the beggars sneaking

across.


Besides, I think it's finally gotten through to him where all of the
money for MediCal went to... it's been paying for illegal Mexican
mothers to raise their Anchor Babies.

Not to mention what's become of the once-proud California Public
Education System.




--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
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"Sometimes, Evil drives a mini-van."
--Desperate Housewives

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Mexicans Outraged by Immigration/Oil Move
JOHN RICE
Associated Press
MEXICO CITY - A move in the U.S. Congress to link immigration with
opening up Mexico's state oil company to U.S. investment has outraged
Mexicans, and newspapers Saturday accused American lawmakers of
arrogance and blackmail.
The House International Relations Committee narrowly approved the
measure Thursday saying that any accord on immigration issues with
Mexico should include an agreement to allow U.S. companies to invest in
the state oil company Pemex.
The measure is a nonbinding "sense of Congress" amendment in a broad
State Department funding bill, and must still be approved by both
houses of Congress.
It went nearly unnoticed in the U.S. news media - but created a storm
in Mexico.
The 1938 nationalization of Pemex is celebrated as a symbol of national
pride and was written into the constitution.
"Blackmail in the US: Immigration Accord for Pemex," a leading
newspaper, El Universal, said in a front-page headline Saturday.
The resolution fed into some Mexicans' suspicions about U.S. motives
for invading Iraq, which was deeply unpopular here and was seen by many
as an attempt to get Iraqi oil.
A rival daily, El Sol, called it "the Halliburton Amendment," referring
to the U.S. energy company headed by Vice President ***** Cheney until
August 2000. Halliburton has contracts to put out oil fires in Iraq and
help restart its oil industry.
President Vicente Fox was once bombarded with criticism for suggesting
that Pemex be privatized.
He has since promised dozens of times to keep the company in state
hands, though his administration has tried to draw foreign private
investment through a new service contract system drawn to skirt
constitutional restrictions.
The amendment, authored by North Carolina Republican Cass Ballenger,
said Pemex "is inefficient, plagued by corruption and in need of
substantial reform and private investment" so that it can "fuel future
economic growth, which can help curb illegal migration to the United
States."
Mexican officials have vowed to crack down on corruption and
inefficiency in Pemex since arresting the oil union chief in a
military-style raid in 1989.
Mexico's federal Justice Department is investigating several current
oil union leaders accused of diverting millions of dollars to the
losing 2000 presidential campaign of the then-ruling Institutional
Revolutionary Party.
Economy Secretary Fernando Canales Clariond said Pemex "definitely will
not be opened to foreign capital."
Mexico City Mayor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, widely seen as a
possible presidential candidate, also rejected the proposal, saying
"the oil belongs to all Mexicans. It's the nation's - not that of the
state or the government."
In its lead editorial, El Universal linked the resolution to
post-Iraq-war hubris:
"Swelled by their military victory in Iraq, some sectors in (the United
States) are trying to carry out a policy of imposing might over right
in all areas of their relationship with the rest of the world."
The newspaper Excelsior referred to "the arrogance of Washington's
imperial power, set on the crest of the military victory over Iraq."
A spokesman for Republicans on the International Relations Committee,
Sam Stratman, noted that immigration in the United States and Pemex in
Mexico "are very emotional issues that are very difficult to discuss
rationally."
"We certainly understand that the final decision on issues concerning
Pemex rests with the Mexican government and the Mexican people," he
said. "This resolution is not aimed at promoting ownership of any piece
of Pemex by American oil companies."
Employment for American oil specialists:
If you are looking for high paying work in the oil business, research
where
in the world the oil is to be found.
( Shhh. Mexico is da place.)
"The problem in Mexico is that energy is largely controlled by the
national
government. The Mexican oil industry was nationalized in 1938, and is
controlled via the state-owned oil company, Petroleous de Mexico (
Premex )."
Prior to nationalization, and one of the reasons for doing so, was
because
American oil companies ( Standard Oil and others ) were stealing the
oil. When
the Mexican government nationalized, the US government responded with
harsh
economic sanctions
Today, Mexico may be sitting on some of the world's largest oil
deposits on
earth in the Chicxulub fields.
SEARCH:
To better understand see:
Prospecting For Oil? Look In An Asteroid Crater
http://www.space.com/scienceas=ADtronomy/planetearth/asteroid_o=ADil_991213=
..=2E.
SEARCH:
Chicxulub Scientific drilling Program
http://www.icdp-online.de/
SEARCH:
Geologists Elated
http://www.spacedaily.com/news=AD/deepimpact-02c.html
SEARCH:
Oil Companies Will Lead
http://www.seg.org/meetings/pa=ADst/seg2000/events/applied.shtm=ADl
SEARCH:
Gas and Oil Connections
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/n=ADews/h_ntl_left.htm
For more on the subject Search Chicxulub
And if you wonder why America is interested in Asia and the politics
there, it's again, about oil.
SEE; Interactive map of Central Asian Oil Routes
http://www.rpi-inc.com/orderma=ADp.htm
SEE SOUTH CHINA SEA REGION - Spratly Islands
http:www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/schi=ADna.html
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