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02 Dec 2004 11:42:45 PM |
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Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Unfortunately the penalty for these killers and maimers is just fines
and drivers license suspension. These monsters deserve years of
prison time but looks like aussies are criminal coddlers just like
americans.
Except that here in the USA, that kind of enforcement would be seen as
unconstitutional and get thrown out by the Supreme Court.
Doesn't mean that sort of BS doesnt' happene very day anyway. Cops can
stop
you any time they like for any reason wahtsoever, and if they decide to
keep
you around all they have to do is say they suspect you of drugs and they
cna
make the next couple hours of your life utter humiliating hell. It
happened
to me.
If you drive reasonably and prudently you are breaking the law, if you
obey
all traffic laws you look like a DUI.
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
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| User: "Cory Dunkle" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 10:29:26 AM |
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"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
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"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message
news:780ea958.0412021810.14c00565@posting.google.com...
Unfortunately the penalty for these killers and maimers is just
fines
and drivers license suspension. These monsters deserve years of
prison time but looks like aussies are criminal coddlers just like
americans.
Except that here in the USA, that kind of enforcement would be seen as
unconstitutional and get thrown out by the Supreme Court.
Doesn't mean that sort of BS doesnt' happene very day anyway. Cops can
stop
you any time they like for any reason wahtsoever, and if they decide to
keep
you around all they have to do is say they suspect you of drugs and they
cna
make the next couple hours of your life utter humiliating hell. It
happened
to me.
If you drive reasonably and prudently you are breaking the law, if you
obey
all traffic laws you look like a DUI.
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
ROTFLMAO
You are so naieve. If you drive reasonably adn prudently you are breaking
laws. Exceeding the speed limit, not making a complete stop at STOP signs
when tehre is visibly no traffic (motorized or pedestrian) for a good long
distance in any direction, the list goes on, I don't think I need to name
everything people typically do day-in and day-out that breaks the law.
Since many traffic laws that are violated by the vast majority of people
make no sense and have nothing whatsoever to do with safety people will
violate them. Then when anyone obeys all traffic laws they look suspicious,
and cops typically think they may be DUI. So obeying all traffic laws is
probable cause, or actually reasonable suspicion. Cops don't need probable
cause to stop you, only reasonable suspicion. Obeying all traffic laws is
reasonable suspicion.
They can't detain you for no reason? I was once driving along at 5 under the
limit on an empty two lane each direction road. Just cruising along enjoying
the sound of my engine. A cop turns left to get behind me, then proceeds to
tailgate me (within about 5-10 feet of my bumper) despite the fact that the
passing lane was clear. After he doesn't get whatever the desired effect of
tailgating me was, he backed off a little, then turned his lights on. When
stopped he pretended like everything was okay, then told em to get out of
the car. I went to turn the car off, and he said I could leave it on since
it would only be a minute. I turned it off anyway. He kept asking me what I
had been using and to just be honest and it wouldn't be so bad. Finally
after he kept threatening me with the 'bad conditions' at Camden County jail
I told him he ought to stop harassing innocent motorists and go do something
useful like improve the conditions at the jail. He didn't like that and
pushed me down on teh hood of his car and searched me. I asked why I was
being searched and he said it was for his safety as I looked dangerous. Keep
in mind I'm a tall thin lanky-a**ed 19 year old white guy (I guess I was 17
or maybe had just turned 18 back then), was dressed in sweat pants, a
t-shirt and a light jacket. I don't look threatening at all. Anyhow, I was
humiliated for about two hours in front of a bunch of people, standing
barefoot on cold pavement in 40*-50* weather as my rights were violated and
I was harassed and abused. When the pigs finally figured out that I was not
a druggie they all left real fast before I thought of asking for badge
numbers. Police station people said it was a routine DUI stop and my rights
were not violated, that is was my word against several police officers so
nothing could be done.
So bullsh**, they can detain you for any reason they darned well please.
It's not like I could have just left. I'm sure that would have resulting in
beatings and eventually being arrested and taken to jail.
Cory
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| User: "DTJ" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 06:08:47 PM |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:29:26 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net>
wrote:
I was harassed and abused. When the pigs finally figured out that I was not
a druggie they all left real fast before I thought of asking for badge
numbers. Police station people said it was a routine DUI stop and my rights
were not violated, that is was my word against several police officers so
nothing could be done.
Not that I am suggesting this, but there are people who would find a
way to get even. Some of them would do really bad things like call in
bomb threats at various locations including public buildings. As that
is really not nice, and may violate certain local ordinances or the
patriot act, you shouldn't do it. Other people follow cops home, or
otherwise find out where they live, what their kids names are, their
pets, et cetera. Then they do really bad things like kidnap the pets,
or throw eggs at the kids. I know you would never do these things.
But there are bad guys out there. Fortunately they usually keep these
assholes busy, and away from innocent people like you and me.
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| User: "Cory Dunkle" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 11:57:50 PM |
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"DTJ" <dtj@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:29:26 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net>
wrote:
I was harassed and abused. When the pigs finally figured out that I was
not
a druggie they all left real fast before I thought of asking for badge
numbers. Police station people said it was a routine DUI stop and my
rights
were not violated, that is was my word against several police officers so
nothing could be done.
Not that I am suggesting this, but there are people who would find a
way to get even. Some of them would do really bad things like call in
bomb threats at various locations including public buildings. As that
is really not nice, and may violate certain local ordinances or the
patriot act, you shouldn't do it. Other people follow cops home, or
otherwise find out where they live, what their kids names are, their
pets, et cetera. Then they do really bad things like kidnap the pets,
or throw eggs at the kids. I know you would never do these things.
But there are bad guys out there. Fortunately they usually keep these
assholes busy, and away from innocent people like you and me.
I'd rather have no corrupt cops and administration. It's not that hard, but
no one wants to band together to fight the corrupt morons who keep
themselves in power. It's all politics.
And don't get me started on the 'patriot act'. What a load of BS. It ought
to be called the 'take away what little rights you have left act'. Just call
it what it is, not anything deceptive.
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| User: "OG Loc" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
04 Dec 2004 01:30:29 AM |
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TV's Cory Dunkle wrote:
But there are bad guys out there. Fortunately they usually keep
these assholes busy, and away from innocent people like you and me.
I'd rather have no corrupt cops and administration. It's not that
hard, but no one wants to band together to fight the corrupt morons
who keep themselves in power. It's all politics.
Everybody is either scared, or part of the machine.
If the cops would work with the populace, and not against it, we could cut
crime to reasonable levels. Instead, the cops have become an enemy to
millions of US citizens. There are some who won't even call the cops if
somebody is breaking into their house, because of the fear of cops. Sadly,
this is very prevalent in the black community.
And don't get me started on the 'patriot act'. What a load of BS. It
ought to be called the 'take away what little rights you have left
act'. Just call it what it is, not anything deceptive.
Deception is one of the main weapons of the Bush regime. Without it they
would be nothing.
--
"Them white boys had me on crystal meth" - some crackhead in GTA:SA
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| User: "Cory Dunkle" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
04 Dec 2004 07:48:47 AM |
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"OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:31d7coF3ans9gU1@individual.net...
TV's Cory Dunkle wrote:
But there are bad guys out there. Fortunately they usually keep
these assholes busy, and away from innocent people like you and me.
I'd rather have no corrupt cops and administration. It's not that
hard, but no one wants to band together to fight the corrupt morons
who keep themselves in power. It's all politics.
Everybody is either scared, or part of the machine.
If the cops would work with the populace, and not against it, we could cut
crime to reasonable levels. Instead, the cops have become an enemy to
millions of US citizens. There are some who won't even call the cops if
somebody is breaking into their house, because of the fear of cops.
Sadly,
this is very prevalent in the black community.
And don't get me started on the 'patriot act'. What a load of BS. It
ought to be called the 'take away what little rights you have left
act'. Just call it what it is, not anything deceptive.
Deception is one of the main weapons of the Bush regime. Without it they
would be nothing.
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them Galaxies,
eh? ;)
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
05 Dec 2004 10:38:38 AM |
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"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<zLCdneyKWfKbXSzcRVn-tg@comcast.com>...
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them Galaxies,
eh? ;)
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
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| User: "Cory Dunkle" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
05 Dec 2004 08:56:33 PM |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:780ea958.0412050838.40226589@posting.google.com...
"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<zLCdneyKWfKbXSzcRVn-tg@comcast.com>...
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a
clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be
better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't
start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them
Galaxies,
eh? ;)
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
Kerry lies about everything, saying whatever it takes to get the majoritys
support. Spineless lamer with no respect for himself or anyone else. He's
all for paying more taxes yet his rich wife payed virtually no taxes... Why
not go ahead and pay more than is required? Anyhow, I'm not getting into a
political debate over this. It's all a moot point since thank goodness Bush
won the election. Either way, it's ludicrous that you would tell someone
they should not vote.
Anyhow, now to the point... I am not going to read any more BS from this
troll.
PLONK
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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05 Dec 2004 11:28:20 AM |
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On 5 Dec 2004 08:38:38 -0800, (Laura Bush murdered
her boy friend) wrote:
"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<zLCdneyKWfKbXSzcRVn-tg@comcast.com>...
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them Galaxies,
eh? ;)
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
Yup, I'd expect nothing more (less?) from you.
You're obviously incapable of thinking for yourself, so you advise
others to do the same.
Let *others* make the choice. It's so much easier that way, and you
can complain no matter what happens, since you had no part in the
election.
Boy, you're doing a great job of making yourself look stupid.
--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
05 Dec 2004 11:17:33 PM |
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Big Bill <bill@pipping.com> wrote in message news:<95h6r0dvaj9pi223q277a5od44sr7aouf4@4ax.com>...
On 5 Dec 2004 08:38:38 -0800, (Laura Bush murdered
her boy friend) wrote:
"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<zLCdneyKWfKbXSzcRVn-tg@comcast.com>...
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them Galaxies,
eh? ;)
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
Yup, I'd expect nothing more (less?) from you.
You're obviously incapable of thinking for yourself, so you advise
others to do the same.
Let *others* make the choice. It's so much easier that way, and you
can complain no matter what happens, since you had no part in the
election.
Boy, you're doing a great job of making yourself look stupid.
Talk about stupid. What do you call people who vote for a man who lied
us into a war????
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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06 Dec 2004 10:12:44 AM |
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On 5 Dec 2004 21:17:33 -0800, (Laura Bush murdered
her boy friend) wrote:
Big Bill <bill@pipping.com> wrote in message news:<95h6r0dvaj9pi223q277a5od44sr7aouf4@4ax.com>...
On 5 Dec 2004 08:38:38 -0800, (Laura Bush murdered
her boy friend) wrote:
"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<zLCdneyKWfKbXSzcRVn-tg@comcast.com>...
I'm a republican and for the most part I like Bush, but I think the
deceptiveness with some thigns should not be tolerated. Makes me kind of
ashamed to have voted for him, but being an educated person I have a clue
about these things and see thorugh most of it. No way would Kerry be better,
that would be call for shooting myself. Anyhow, we probably shouldn't start
with politics... It could get ugly. heh heh So, how 'bout them Galaxies,
eh? ;)
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
Yup, I'd expect nothing more (less?) from you.
You're obviously incapable of thinking for yourself, so you advise
others to do the same.
Let *others* make the choice. It's so much easier that way, and you
can complain no matter what happens, since you had no part in the
election.
Boy, you're doing a great job of making yourself look stupid.
Talk about stupid. What do you call people who vote for a man who lied
us into a war????
I call them voters.
What do you call a man who lied constantly about the war? Who pandered
to the audience he was in front of?
Who's discharge status is very unclear, and quite possibly could have
gotten a less-than-honerable discharge?
Who lied about "his" plan for Iraq?
Who attempted to sic the law on those who campaigned against him, in
clear violation of the Constitution?
Most call him the Democratic candidate for the presidency.
OTOH, if Buch lied, then so did all the countries in Europe the
appeasers look up to, and the UN. They *ALL* thought (and said) SH had
WMDs.
If you look up the definition of "lie"., you'll discover that Buch
didn't lie; and if you still think he did, remember that in that case,
he had a *LOT* of company.
--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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| User: "OG Loc" |
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06 Dec 2004 06:45:59 PM |
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TV's Big Bill wrote:
Talk about stupid. What do you call people who vote for a man who
lied
us into a war????
I call them voters.
What do you call a man who lied constantly about the war? Who pandered
to the audience he was in front of?
Honestly, both of them. The vast majority of politicians pander to what
ever audience they are in front of.
Who's discharge status is very unclear, and quite possibly could have
gotten a less-than-honerable discharge?
W.
Who lied about "his" plan for Iraq?
W.
Who attempted to sic the law on those who campaigned against him, in
clear violation of the Constitution?
I haven't heard that either candidate did this.
Most call him the Democratic candidate for the presidency.
OTOH, if Buch lied, then so did all the countries in Europe the
appeasers look up to, and the UN. They *ALL* thought (and said) SH had
WMDs.
If you look up the definition of "lie"., you'll discover that Buch
didn't lie; and if you still think he did, remember that in that case,
he had a *LOT* of company.
He did lie. Congress went along with his lie. It's time to clean out
Congress and the White House and get some new blood in there.
--
"Them white boys had me on crystal meth" - some crackhead in GTA:SA
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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06 Dec 2004 07:17:16 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:45:59 -0600, "OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
TV's Big Bill wrote:
Talk about stupid. What do you call people who vote for a man who
lied
us into a war????
I call them voters.
What do you call a man who lied constantly about the war? Who pandered
to the audience he was in front of?
Honestly, both of them. The vast majority of politicians pander to what
ever audience they are in front of.
Who's discharge status is very unclear, and quite possibly could have
gotten a less-than-honerable discharge?
W.
Who lied about "his" plan for Iraq?
W.
Wrong. Bush's discharge is well documented, and he had all the
necessary requirements met.
Kerry's discharge, OTOH, is dated many years after his actual
discharge date, and he refuses to disclose why.
Who attempted to sic the law on those who campaigned against him, in
clear violation of the Constitution?
I haven't heard that either candidate did this.
Then you need to look at *both* candidates more closely.
Kerry attempted to sue the Swift Boat people, until it was pointed out
that the Constitution protects them just as it does his 527's.
Most call him the Democratic candidate for the presidency.
OTOH, if Buch lied, then so did all the countries in Europe the
appeasers look up to, and the UN. They *ALL* thought (and said) SH had
WMDs.
If you look up the definition of "lie"., you'll discover that Buch
didn't lie; and if you still think he did, remember that in that case,
he had a *LOT* of company.
He did lie. Congress went along with his lie. It's time to clean out
Congress and the White House and get some new blood in there.
Maybe you should look up the definition of the word "lie".
You need to know it was wrong before it can be a lie.
If Bush lied, so did Kerry, Congress (both sides), France, Germany,
Russia, China, and the UN, to name the major players. They *all* said
Iraq had WMDs.
--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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| User: "Arif Khokar" |
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06 Dec 2004 07:24:09 PM |
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Big Bill wrote:
Maybe you should look up the definition of the word "lie".
You need to know it was wrong before it can be a lie.
Like that one part of his 2003 state of the union address?
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| User: "OG Loc" |
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06 Dec 2004 10:45:14 PM |
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TV's Big Bill wrote:
Wrong. Bush's discharge is well documented, and he had all the
necessary requirements met.
He went AWOL. That is unacceptable under any circumstance, and would
disqualify him from consideration as a presidential candidate by anybody
with any commom sense.
--
"Them white boys had me on crystal meth" - some crackhead in GTA:SA
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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08 Dec 2004 10:44:33 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:45:14 -0600, "OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
TV's Big Bill wrote:
Wrong. Bush's discharge is well documented, and he had all the
necessary requirements met.
He went AWOL. That is unacceptable under any circumstance, and would
disqualify him from consideration as a presidential candidate by anybody
with any commom sense.
Like I said, we don't get to make that judgement.
I'm aware that, to a Bush hater, he was AWOL.
To his unit, he wasn't.
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Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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| User: "OG Loc" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:49:09 AM |
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TV's Big Bill wrote:
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:45:14 -0600, "OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
TV's Big Bill wrote:
Wrong. Bush's discharge is well documented, and he had all the
necessary requirements met.
He went AWOL. That is unacceptable under any circumstance, and would
disqualify him from consideration as a presidential candidate by
anybody with any commom sense.
Like I said, we don't get to make that judgment.
I'm aware that, to a Bush hater, he was AWOL.
To his unit, he wasn't.
I can make that judgment, and I have. He's an AWOL traitor. And there's
nothing you can do to change my mind, without providing evidence to the
contrary.
I'm going to make another judgment while I am at it. *PLONK*
I'm sick to my teeth of political arguments with bullheaded troglodytes.
Bye.
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"Them white boys had me on crystal meth" - some crackhead in GTA:SA
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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09 Dec 2004 09:09:08 AM |
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 00:49:09 -0600, "OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
TV's Big Bill wrote:
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:45:14 -0600, "OG Loc" <watuzinospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
TV's Big Bill wrote:
Wrong. Bush's discharge is well documented, and he had all the
necessary requirements met.
He went AWOL. That is unacceptable under any circumstance, and would
disqualify him from consideration as a presidential candidate by
anybody with any commom sense.
Like I said, we don't get to make that judgment.
I'm aware that, to a Bush hater, he was AWOL.
To his unit, he wasn't.
I can make that judgment, and I have. He's an AWOL traitor. And there's
nothing you can do to change my mind, without providing evidence to the
contrary.
You can make that judgement for yourself, but it doesn't change
anything.
You want evidence? How about thew fact that he was never charged with
being AWOL?
Of course, that's all because of Daddy. Or he was an ET. Or he blew
his CO. Or something.
I'm going to make another judgment while I am at it. *PLONK*
OOoo! I'm impressed.
You plonk those who don;t agree with you! That'll teach me!
Of course, it also shows a completely closed mind, too.
I'm sick to my teeth of political arguments with bullheaded troglodytes.
Bye.
How can you stand yourself?
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Bill Funk
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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07 Dec 2004 02:06:11 AM |
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They said they THOUGHT saddam had wmds but the evidence wasn't strong
enough to warrant a war. Bush is the one who invaded. Fercrissakes,
don't blame france for this mess.
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| User: "Big Bill" |
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08 Dec 2004 10:45:52 PM |
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On 7 Dec 2004 00:06:11 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
They said they THOUGHT saddam had wmds but the evidence wasn't strong
enough to warrant a war. Bush is the one who invaded. Fercrissakes,
don't blame france for this mess.
If you're responding to me (but how can I tell, you aren't smart
enough to quote), I din't blame France.
I did say that if Bush lied, so did France, and a lot of others,
including Kerry.
--
Bill Funk
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
07 Dec 2004 02:06:30 AM |
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They said they THOUGHT saddam had wmds but the evidence wasn't strong
enough to warrant a war. Bush is the one who invaded. Fercrissakes,
don't blame france for this mess.
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| User: "DTJ" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
05 Dec 2004 09:01:51 PM |
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On 5 Dec 2004 08:38:38 -0800, (Laura Bush murdered
her boy friend) wrote:
I know kerry's the same poison as bush, but how could you vote for a
man such as bush who lied us into a war??? You should have just NOT
voted.
Only a moron as yourself would claim Bush lied.
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| User: "me" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 12:36:58 AM |
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"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
news:cooudd01531@news1.newsguy.com...
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
riiiiiigghtt....
Chances are, they can find something.
They must have probable cause.
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
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| User: "Mot Adv-NSW" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 09:57:37 AM |
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"me" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:140b1$41b00986$d841a112$1978@allthenewsgroups.com...
"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
news:cooudd01531@news1.newsguy.com...
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
riiiiiigghtt....
Chances are, they can find something.
They must have probable cause.
That 'use' to be the legal situation in relation to driver's here in
Australia (our inhereted rights), we scended that 'right' with the
introduction of RBT-Random Breath Testing.
RBT in turn has generally come to involve license and registration
checks...... 'Good morning madam/sir, you have been stopped for the purpose
of a random breath test, would you please take a breath and blow into this
tube, (you get to keep it if you want). OR would you please speak/count into
this device untill I say stop. (Two types of BAC measure methods).
The Victorian drug testing is carried out by a mouth swab method, - you are
taken for further testing into a nearby van if the initial result is
positive.
"Under laws that came into effect on December 1, 2004, Victoria Police have
the power to conduct random roadside saliva testing to detect drivers
travelling under the influence of illicit drugs. Drug driving is a major
contributor to road fatalities in Victoria . In 2003, a total of 31 per cent
of drivers killed in Victoria tested positive to drugs other than alcohol.
Many drivers appear unaware of the effects that drugs can have on their
alertness, vigilance and ability to react rapidly to unexpected events. Some
drugs can also increase the impairing effects of alcohol and fatigue.
The new random roadside saliva testing is aimed at making Victoria 's roads
safer for everyone by reducing the incidence of drug driving".
http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/c_drugsAD.html
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
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| User: "Olaf Gustafson" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 03:33:11 PM |
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 02:57:37 +1100, "Mot Adv-NSW"
<mot.adv@gotalk.net.au> wrote:
Drug driving is a major
contributor to road fatalities in Victoria . In 2003, a total of 31 per cent
of drivers killed in Victoria tested positive to drugs other than alcohol.
That's a meaningless statistic.
You are aware that you don't have to be under the influence of a drug
to test positive for it, don't you?
And even if someone is under the influence of drugs does not mean that
they were impaired or that their impairment was the cause of the
accident.
But if you'd prefer to play statistical games, nearly 70% of road
drivers killed were not on any drug other than alcohol, so therefore,
stoners are safer drivers.
Instead of testing people for illicit drug use, the cops should be
going around handing out joints!
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| User: "truckinsp truckinsp@ nowhere.com" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 07:15:04 PM |
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Richard Bullishit wrote:
They must have probable cause.
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
More totally useless and probably dangerous advice from Usenet's most well
known troll......
Got a job yet, Bullishit???
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 10:41:40 AM |
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"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message news:<cooudd01531@news1.newsguy.com>...
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
All they have to do is say you were weaving on the road.
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| User: "Cory Dunkle" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 11:59:15 PM |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:780ea958.0412030841.66ec4b8e@posting.google.com...
"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
news:<cooudd01531@news1.newsguy.com>...
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
All they have to do is say you were weaving on the road.
That's exactly waht they said after detaining me adn humiliating me in
public in the freezing cold for two hours. Only at the end of the two hours
did they actually answer me as to why they stopped me. Apparently I was "all
over the road".
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
08 Dec 2004 03:02:30 PM |
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I'm sure you hear that alot!
--
Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeton2001@yahoo.com)'s words of
wisdom (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)
Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19
You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com
i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1665104637d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311919.5f4893f4%40posting.google.com
At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com
I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com
I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for beating
the crap out of a half-dozen ***** gun loonies i caught raping a
collie and I couldn't handle the food either. ***** beets with every
meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at the commy.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411242021.7b529c17%40posting.google.com
The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three
cheers for the cops.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.google.com
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| User: "The Heavy Heavy Monster Sound" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 09:29:40 PM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message news:<cooudd01531@news1.newsguy.com>...
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
All they have to do is say you were weaving on the road.
Or be driving the wrong kind of car, a car that is too old, etc. If the
coppers don't have a good reason to stop you, some will tailgate you
with HID lights(Town of Ulster NY's fave tactic), until you get annoyed
enough to pull up so they go around you; which they don't, of course-I
got suckered by that move. I've had cops go at low speed on the highway
in front of me(like 25 MPH in a 55 zone) hoping I would get annoyed
enough to overtake(Colorado State Patrol tactic), which of course, you
should never EVER do. And let's not forget Homeland Insecurity checks
like at JN 14 on the Thruway just before the "election". You can cop to
a hazmat ticket for calling a copper on that action.
--
Comrade Mister Yamamoto
http://mryamamoto.50megs.com
"One of our problems in Iraq is that whenever we draw a 'line in the
sand', the President keeps trying to snort it".-unnamed Administration
official
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| User: "Olaf Gustafson" |
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| Title: Re: Australians randomly testing drivers for DRUGS |
03 Dec 2004 03:27:34 PM |
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:42:45 -0600, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001>
wrote:
No they can not stop you any time they damn well please.
They must have probable cause.
They can not stop you just because you "look" like something or other.
They can not needlessly detain you either.
If you are stopped for no reason, step out of the vehicle, and lock your
doors.
How do you know you're being stopped for no reason?
Your license plate may have fallen off - or maybe a taillight is out.
At this point, they need a search warrant to do any more looking than
through the windows.
Even if the officer makes threats, do not hand him the keys.
If he takes them from you, you have a case against him.
There are hundreds of things that can go wrong for the officer if he does
not follow proper procedure in every way.
Officers can not stop you for any reason.
Period.
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