Politics > Politics-USA > Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July
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"Rico" |
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12 Jul 2004 04:43:02 PM |
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Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune brain
: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil hats
: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >
: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A time-honored
: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity of
the "october surprise" too.
But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later illegal
amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
12 Jul 2004 11:23:16 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > wrote:
: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >
: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune brain
: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil hats
: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >
: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A time-honored
: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >
: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity of
: >the "october surprise" too.
: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later illegal
: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Rico" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 02:37:17 PM |
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In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > wrote:
: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >
: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune brain
: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil hats
: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >
: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A time-honored
: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >
: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity of
: >the "october surprise" too.
: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later illegal
: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It was
never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with weapons
before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 04:05:34 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune brain
: >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil hats
: >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A time-honored
: >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity of
: >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later illegal
: >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It was
: never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with weapons
: before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to reconcile
your claim with that of North.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 05:46:10 PM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune
brain
: >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil
hats
: >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
time-honored
: >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity
of
: >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later
illegal
: >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It was
: never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
weapons
: before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to reconcile
your claim with that of North.
--
The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the conviction
was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was never
disputed.
Larry
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Edw" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 09:25:14 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cd1o8r$cvcp$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune
brain
: >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil
hats
: >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
time-honored
: >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
conspiracy
: >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the
stupidity
of
: >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later
illegal
: >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
was
: never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
weapons
: before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
reconcile
your claim with that of North.
--
The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
conviction
was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was
never
disputed.
Also the same North who circumvented Congress (and thereby the Constitution)
to fund his creepery, but also used it for personal things like security
fencing at his home. He said "enemies" were "out to get [him]."
Another sane, moral, law-abiding Republican. Competent too.
Larry
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Rico" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
14 Jul 2004 12:16:13 PM |
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In article <eQ0Jc.1444$rz3.111@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cd1o8r$cvcp$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune
brain
: >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil
hats
: >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
time-honored
: >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
conspiracy
: >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the
stupidity
of
: >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later
illegal
: >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
was
: never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
weapons
: before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
reconcile
your claim with that of North.
--
The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
conviction
was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was
never
disputed.
Also the same North who circumvented Congress (and thereby the Constitution)
to fund his creepery, but also used it for personal things like security
fencing at his home. He said "enemies" were "out to get [him]."
You have forgotted his snow tires... (needed for fast get away in bad
weather<g>)
Another sane, moral, law-abiding Republican. Competent too.
Larry
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 10:22:08 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > : >: > wrote:
: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > : >: >
: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune
: brain
: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil
: hats
: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: > : >: >: >
: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: time-honored
: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: > : >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity
: of
: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: > : >
: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later
: illegal
: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It was
: > : never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
: weapons
: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to reconcile
: > your claim with that of North.
: > --
: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the conviction
: was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was never
: disputed.
The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything to do
with your fantasy of an october surprise.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
13 Jul 2004 11:08:03 PM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net>
wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > : >: > wrote:
: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > : >: >
: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
tune
: brain
: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin
foil
: hats
: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: > : >: >: >
: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: time-honored
: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
conspiracy
: > : >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the
stupidity
: of
: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: > : >
: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
later
: illegal
: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
was
: > : never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
: weapons
: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
reconcile
: > your claim with that of North.
: > --
: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
conviction
: was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was
never
: disputed.
The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything to
do
with your fantasy of an october surprise.
Don;t want to alk about his lying to congress, misappropriating federal
funds, and numerous other felonies, huh?
Larry
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Edw" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
14 Jul 2004 09:48:54 AM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net>
wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > : >: > wrote:
: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > : >: >
: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
tune
: brain
: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin
foil
: hats
: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: > : >: >: >
: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: time-honored
: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
conspiracy
: > : >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the
stupidity
: of
: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: > : >
: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
later
: illegal
: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
was
: > : never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with
: weapons
: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
reconcile
: > your claim with that of North.
: > --
: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
conviction
: was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that he lied. was
never
: disputed.
The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything to
do
with your fantasy of an october surprise.
Which of North's rights were violated? His right to lie in his teeth? His
right to rob the public blind? His right to ***** on the Constitution?
I didn't call anything about North a technicality.
I didn't mention the October surprise, dipshit.
For a rightwinger, all is co-incidence for Reps. and all is conspiracy for
Dems. It may make you feel good to be an irrational *****, but it makes you
look like an irrational *****.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Flip-Flop Bush" |
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
14 Jul 2004 08:10:12 AM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net>
wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: > : >wrote:
: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: > : >: > wrote:
: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > : >: >
: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: > : >: >: > tune
: brain
: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin
: > : >: >: > foil
: hats
: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: > : >: >: >
: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: time-honored
: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: of
: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: > : >
: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: > : >: later
: illegal
: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings.
: > : It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran
: > : (illegally) with
: weapons
: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: > --
: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that
: he lied. was never disputed.
The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything
to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
No one made that claim françois.
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net>
: > wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: > : >: >: > tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin
: >: > : >: >: > foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: > : >: later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings.
: >: > : It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran
: >: > : (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that
: >: he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything
: > to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly there
that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from exposging the
october surprise.
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
15 Jul 2004 08:27:09 AM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:0aqdnarwFdVIl2vdRVn-sQ@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt
: > <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : >: Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the
: >: > : >: >: > looney tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their
: >: > : >: >: > tin foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the
: >: > : >: >: messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and
: >: > : >: the later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra
: >: > : hearings. It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying
: >: > : Iran (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact
: >: that he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had
: > anything to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly
there that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from
exposging the october surprise.
You need to learn how to read.
--
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Vote Libertarian
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
15 Jul 2004 03:52:19 PM |
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In article <Xns95276041F35C0biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>, "Flip-Flop Bush" <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:0aqdnarwFdVIl2vdRVn-sQ@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt
: > <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : >: Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the
: >: > : >: >: > looney tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their
: >: > : >: >: > tin foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the
: >: > : >: >: messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and
: >: > : >: the later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra
: >: > : hearings. It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying
: >: > : Iran (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact
: >: that he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had
: > anything to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly
there that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from
exposging the october surprise.
You need to learn how to read.
I think this is a big tongue in cheek reply, no one can be as stupid as
this would suggest if he weren't teasing.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
15 Jul 2004 03:51:10 PM |
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In article <0aqdnarwFdVIl2vdRVn-sQ@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt <larryhewi@comporium.net>
: > wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: > : >: >: > tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin
: >: > : >: >: > foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: > : >: later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings.
: >: > : It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran
: >: > : (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact that
: >: he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had anything
: > to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly there
that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from exposging the
october surprise.
Are you as stupid as this makes you seem? The Iran arms gifts/sales in the
early 1980's were to cover up the deal Reagan and Daddy bush made with Iran
to hold the hostages until after the election of 1980. The reference to
these events was to show that an october surprise arranged with the enemy
is not new with the republicans. They are making the arrangements now (bush
baby) and have done so in the past, bush daddy. Please seriousily tell mer
you are not as stupid as your post here makes you appear and that your post
was intended to be tongue ion cheek.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
15 Jul 2004 03:54:37 PM |
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(Rico) wrote in
news:10fdrhhcveut846@corp.supernews.com:
In article <0aqdnarwFdVIl2vdRVn-sQ@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt
: > <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico < >
: >: > wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : >: Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the
: >: > : >: >: > looney tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their
: >: > : >: >: > tin foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the
: >: > : >: >: messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and
: >: > : >: the later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra
: >: > : hearings. It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying
: >: > : Iran (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact
: >: that he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had
: > anything to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly
there that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from
exposging the october surprise.
Are you as stupid as this makes you seem? The Iran arms gifts/sales in
the early 1980's were to cover up the deal Reagan and Daddy bush made
with Iran to hold the hostages until after the election of 1980. The
reference to these events was to show that an october surprise
arranged with the enemy is not new with the republicans. They are
making the arrangements now (bush baby) and have done so in the past,
bush daddy. Please seriousily tell mer you are not as stupid as your
post here makes you appear and that your post was intended to be
tongue ion cheek.
François genuinely believes that the 1986 sale of weapons to Iran was to
get them to cover up the upcoming "October Surprise." See, Reagan was
such a visionary that he knew that the son of his vice president would
need the Iranians' help some 18 years later. WOW. Reagan sure had that
vision thing.
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Take Back America
Vote Libertarian
Elect Mike Badnarik
http://www.badnarik.org/
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
16 Jul 2004 03:49:34 PM |
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In article <Xns9527AC1F3EB45biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>, "Flip-Flop Bush" <bio_dude@hotmail.com> wrote:
rico_001@hotmail.com (Rico) wrote in
news:10fdrhhcveut846@corp.supernews.com:
In article <0aqdnarwFdVIl2vdRVn-sQ@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:wvSdnT-Te8R9O2ndRVn-uw@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Larry Hewitt
: > <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
: >
: >: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: >: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com...
: >: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: > : In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >wrote:
: >: > : >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank
: >: > : >: Pittel
: >: > : > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: > : >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > : >: > wrote:
: >: > : >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: > : >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the
: >: > : >: >: > looney tune
: >: brain
: >: > : >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their
: >: > : >: >: > tin foil
: >: hats
: >: > : >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: > : >: >: >
: >: > : >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the
: >: > : >: >: messenger. A
: >: time-honored
: >: > : >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: > : >: >
: >: > : >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: > : >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: > : >: >believe the stupidity
: >: of
: >: > : >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >: > : >
: >: > : >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and
: >: > : >: the later
: >: illegal
: >: > : >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: > : >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > : I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra
: >: > : hearings. It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying
: >: > : Iran (illegally) with
: >: weapons
: >: > : before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >: >
: >: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: >: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: >: > --
: >
: >: The same North who was convicted for lying to congress?Yeah, the
: >: conviction was later overturned on a technicality, but the fact
: >: that he lied. was never disputed.
: >
: > The constitutional right of North were violated and you call it a
: > technicallity. Still no proof that the arms sales to Iran had
: > anything to do with your fantasy of an october surprise.
: >
: No one made that claim fran?ois.
Take a closer look at the thread that you quote. The claim is clearly
there that the arms sales were a bribe to keep the Iranians from
exposging the october surprise.
Are you as stupid as this makes you seem? The Iran arms gifts/sales in
the early 1980's were to cover up the deal Reagan and Daddy bush made
with Iran to hold the hostages until after the election of 1980. The
reference to these events was to show that an october surprise
arranged with the enemy is not new with the republicans. They are
making the arrangements now (bush baby) and have done so in the past,
bush daddy. Please seriousily tell mer you are not as stupid as your
post here makes you appear and that your post was intended to be
tongue ion cheek.
François genuinely believes that the 1986 sale of weapons to Iran was to
See that is where the Contra link muddies the water here, the actual sales
began much earlier, I think early 1982. They did not get caught until 1986
when leaks about it started coming out of Israel as they wanted to broker
some of the deals (for a commission). Due to the contra link and the time
of discovery people think it was over the hostages in Lebanon, but had
actually begun before the first Americans were snatched in Beruit. That is
what gets missed in discussions, the original deal had nothing to do with
the kidnap victims in Lebanon, it was a pay off for the holding the
hostages thru Jan 1981.
get them to cover up the upcoming "October Surprise." See, Reagan was
such a visionary that he knew that the son of his vice president would
need the Iranians' help some 18 years later. WOW. Reagan sure had that
vision thing.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: ><bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: >: > tune brain dead loser lib dems. These people need to check
: >: >: > their tin foil hats for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: >: time-honored dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe
: >: >the stupidity of the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: later illegal amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
: was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally)
: with weapons before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
reconcile your claim with that of North.
Dude, North committed a federal crime. He operated an illegal foreign
policy without the consent of the Executive (Reagan: "I do not recall";
Bush: "I was out of the loop."). Why would you take the word of a man who
committed treason?
BTW, can you show us a cite where North makes a claim that contradicts
Rico's?
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Vote Libertarian
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14 Jul 2004 10:09:38 AM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: >: ><bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: >: > wrote:
: >: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: >: >: > tune brain dead loser lib dems. These people need to check
: >: >: >: > their tin foil hats for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >: >
: >: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: >: >: time-honored dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >: >
: >: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe
: >: >: >the stupidity of the "october surprise" too.
: >: >
: >: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: >: later illegal amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: >: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
: >: was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally)
: >: with weapons before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: Dude, North committed a federal crime. He operated an illegal foreign
: policy without the consent of the Executive (Reagan: "I do not recall";
: Bush: "I was out of the loop."). Why would you take the word of a man who
: committed treason?
It was ketchup boy that ave aid and comfort to the enemy not North. The
biggest crime North committed was to give support to creating a democracy
in opposition to the dem congress that wanted to preserve a communist state.
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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| Title: Re: Bush wheelin' and dealin' with Pakistan for an "October Surprise" in July |
14 Jul 2004 11:23:26 AM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:IoWdnZhSLN0v0WjdRVn-ig@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: >: ><bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: >: > wrote:
: >: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: >: >: > tune brain dead loser lib dems. These people need to check
: >: >: >: > their tin foil hats for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >: >
: >: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: >: >: time-honored dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >: >
: >: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe
: >: >: >the stupidity of the "october surprise" too.
: >: >
: >: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: >: later illegal amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: >: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
: >: was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally)
: >: with weapons before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: Dude, North committed a federal crime. He operated an illegal foreign
: policy without the consent of the Executive (Reagan: "I do not recall";
: Bush: "I was out of the loop."). Why would you take the word of a man
who
: committed treason?
It was ketchup boy that ave aid and comfort to the enemy not North. The
biggest crime North committed was to give support to creating a democracy
in opposition to the dem congress that wanted to preserve a communist
state.
What mindless drivel.
1) Kerry did not give aid and comfort to the enemy.
2) Nicaragua was not a Communist state.
3) The "men" North rushed aid to planted landmines in schoolyards and
tortured peasants.
4) North's actions were in direct contravention of the Constitution of the
United States.
5) Money for the aid came from selling advanced weaponry to Iran, an enemy
of the US.
6) No inconsiderable portion of that money was funneled to North's and
Secord's bank accounts.
7) It was the North cabal who sold "precursor elements" for chemical weapons
to Saddam Hussein; those became the "WMD" you now say he shouldn't have had.
8) Congress was fighting to preserve the Constitutional balance of powers.
9) Reagan's certification of the Contra as not violating human rights was
universally rejected by the international community,Congress and anyone who
knew the first thing about Nicaragua. The "soldiers" were Samozista thugs
who turned to drug dealing when Chamorra disavowed them.
10) Literacy rates have fallen virtually every year since the election of
Violetta Chamorra; poverty rates are unchanged, the Mesquite have continued
second class citizens in a very, very poor country. But no-one is
suggesting help for peasants, so all is well, eh?
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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14 Jul 2004 10:15:27 AM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:IoWdnZhSLN0v0WjdRVn-ig@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: >: ><bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: >: > wrote:
: >: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: >: >: > tune brain dead loser lib dems. These people need to check
: >: >: >: > their tin foil hats for the gaps letting the kook beams
: >: >: >: > in.
: >: >: >: >
: >: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: >: >: time-honored dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >: >
: >: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you
: >: >: >believe the stupidity of the "october surprise" too.
: >: >
: >: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: >: later illegal amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: >: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings.
: >: It was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran
: >: (illegally) with weapons before the first Americans were grabbed
: >: in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: Dude, North committed a federal crime. He operated an illegal foreign
: policy without the consent of the Executive (Reagan: "I do not
: recall"; Bush: "I was out of the loop."). Why would you take the word
: of a man who committed treason?
It was ketchup boy that ave aid and comfort to the enemy not North.
North sold weapons to Iran.
The biggest crime North committed was to give support to creating a
democracy in opposition to the dem congress that wanted to preserve a
communist state.
North sold weapons to Iran.
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14 Jul 2004 12:26:11 PM |
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In article <IoWdnZhSLN0v0WjdRVn-ig@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: news:vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: >: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
: >: >: ><bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: >: > wrote:
: >: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney
: >: >: >: > tune brain dead loser lib dems. These people need to check
: >: >: >: > their tin foil hats for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >: >
: >: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
: >: >: >: time-honored dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >: >
: >: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook
: >: >: >conspiracy theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe
: >: >: >the stupidity of the "october surprise" too.
: >: >
: >: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the
: >: >: later illegal amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: >
: >
: >: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It
: >: was never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally)
: >: with weapons before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
: >
: > I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to
: > reconcile your claim with that of North.
: Dude, North committed a federal crime. He operated an illegal foreign
: policy without the consent of the Executive (Reagan: "I do not recall";
: Bush: "I was out of the loop."). Why would you take the word of a man who
: committed treason?
It was ketchup boy that ave aid and comfort to the enemy not North. The
biggest crime North committed was to give support to creating a democracy
in opposition to the dem congress that wanted to preserve a communist state.
By supplying weapons illegally to Iran.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/part_i.htm
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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14 Jul 2004 12:14:57 PM |
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In article <vrqdnb6cl4MD02ndRVn-sA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: In article <A-WdnbXNaKkp_m7dRVn-ug@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Rico <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: In article <x6qdnV1wBfbde2_d4p2dnA@giganews.com>, Frank Pittel
: > <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >: >In alt.politics.usa.republican Flip-Flop Bush
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
: >: > wrote:
: >: >: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
: >: >: news:Htqdna7hLZrcUm_dRVn-sA@giganews.com:
: >: >
: >: >: > Another october surprise conspiracy created by the looney tune brain
: >: >: > dead loser lib dems. These people need to check their tin foil hats
: >: >: > for the gaps letting the kook beams in.
: >: >: >
: >: >: When you cannot refute the message, attack the messenger. A
time-honored
: >: >: dimwit tactic. Way to go Fran?ois.
: >: >
: >: >There's no message worth responding to! Just another kook conspiracy
: >: >theory being passed off as fact. I'll bet you believe the stupidity of
: >: >the "october surprise" too.
: >
: >: But not without precident, I refer you to 1980/1 Iran and the later
illegal
: >: amrs sales to keep the Iranians quiet.
: >Your proof of this latest fantasy is??
: I'm guessing you were in diapers during the Iran/Contra hearings. It was
: never arms for hostages, North was supplying Iran (illegally) with weapons
: before the first Americans were grabbed in Lebanon.
I remember the hearings very well and you need to find a way to reconcile
your claim with that of North.
Look at the calander of events from the testimony.
fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
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