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User: "Robert"
Date: 05 Sep 2003 06:00:06 AM
Object: Re: Bush's rush to war costing military and U.S. dearly.
georgiegirl may be a hero to you neocons, but he certainly can't be a hero
to the leaders and enlisted men in the military.
I compare him in this respect, AND ONLY IN THIS RESPECT, to Robert E. Lee.
Lee was a great hero to the South but to General George Pickett, he is a
murderer who slaughtered his entire army in a brazenly stupid charge at
Gettysburg.
"WeThePeople" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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U.S. Report Ties Iraq Unrest to Poor Planning

Wed Sep 3,12:42 PM ET
By Charles Aldinger

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A "brutally honest" report prepared for the U.S.
military Joint Chiefs of Staff blames post-war unrest in Iraq on
hurried, inadequate planning before the invasion, defense officials said
on Wednesday.

The classified report on lessons learned in the war says U.S. commanders
were so busy preparing to defeat Iraq's military and directing the fight
that they were given too little time to properly prepare for "Phase IV"
peace, according to the officials.

It also flays planning for so-far fruitless efforts to find weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq. The threat from such chemical and biological
weapons was cited by President Bush and the Pentagon as a major reason
for the invasion.

"It is a brutally honest report," one of the officials, who asked not to
be identified, told Reuters. "It shows that the military is
self-critical -- not just satisfied with 93 percent effectiveness in
combat."

The assessment, first reported in The Washington Times on Wednesday, has
not yet been approved by Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff and the nation's top military officer.

With U.S. troops being killed daily in guerrilla attacks in Iraq and
suffering more casualties in the post-war period than in the drive to
capture Baghdad, the Bush administration has come under sharp criticism
from members of Congress over strategy in the unsettled country.

The Times published excerpts from the report -- which gave high marks
for joint war fighting capabilities among U.S. military services and the
ability to bomb "time-sensitive" targets -- that were confirmed to
Reuters by defense officials familiar with it.

'LIMITED FOCUS'

The newspaper quoted the report as saying, "Phase IV objectives were
identified, but the scope of the effort required to continually refine
operational plans for defeat of (the) Iraqi military limited the focus
on Phase IV," the reconstruction of Iraq.

"Late formation of Department of Defense (Phase IV) organizations
limited time available for the development of detailed plans and
pre-deployment coordination," it added.

The report, compiled from interviews with senior officers such as
now-retired Army Gen. Tommy Franks, who headed the war effort, does not
name any individuals for blame.

But it charges that planning for the hunt for weapons of mass
destruction was inadequate, especially because the military was not
trained for such efforts.

"Weapons of mass destruction elimination and exploitation planning
efforts did not occur early enough in the process to allow CentCom (the
U.S. Central Command headed by Franks) to effectively execute the
mission," the Times quoted the report.

The newspaper said the report, prepared last month, showed that Bush
approved the overall war strategy for Iraq in August 2002, eight months
before the first bomb was dropped and six months before he asked the
U.N. Security Council for a war mandate that he did not receive.

Senior Bush administration officials, including Deputy Defense Secretary
Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, have
conceded in recent weeks that the administration failed to anticipate
the guerrilla war against U.S. troops in Iraq.

The United States currently has about 140,000 troops in Iraq and the
deployment has left the American military stretched to fulfill missions
around the world.

The U.S. Congressional Budget Office warned in a report on Tuesday that
the demands of troop rotations around the world could leave the Defense
Department without fresh Army units for Iraq next year unless tours of
duty stretch beyond a year.


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User: "Rico"

Title: Re: Bush's rush to war costing military and U.S. dearly. 08 Sep 2003 12:11:03 PM
In article <yxs6b.1415$if4.1027035@newshog.newsread.com>, "Barbi" <jk11@noapampa.net> wrote:


"Rico" <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <441d41d1.0309051024.3da88e29@posting.google.com>,

maceanruig@astound.net (Ashland Henderson) wrote:

"Robert" <wayne_s_noches@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<W0_5b.5069$i5.928@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>...

georgiegirl may be a hero to you neocons, but he certainly can't be a

hero

to the leaders and enlisted men in the military.

I compare him in this respect, AND ONLY IN THIS RESPECT, to Robert E.

Lee.

Lee was a great hero to the South but to General George Pickett, he is

a

murderer who slaughtered his entire army in a brazenly stupid charge at
Gettysburg.


But to the men in the ranks he remained a hero right up to the present
day. And of course the entire army wasn't slaughtered although Pickett's
division was pretty badly handled.


Of course most Southerners in truth do not grasp the fact that Lee
destroyed the offensive capacity of his Army on July 3 and thus set the
stage for the loss of the war in the east.


But Lee said God was on his side. Sounds just like what King G.W. has said
many times. Longstreet wanted to march to the south and fight the union on
his terms. Longstreet was a man of logic and not religion. We have another
Lee in the whitehouse now when we need a Longstreet.

Longstreet probably would have seen the Army destroyed at Chancersville, so
that was a wash.
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