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20 Apr 2004 06:01:17 AM |
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Re: Cheney Says Kerry a Threat to Gun Owners - Soros Convicted Felon |
"You Know Who" <uno@who.us> wrote in message
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In talk.politics.guns (Edmund Kerry) wrote:
You Know Who <uno@who.us> wrote in message
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Cheny- ***** you, you lying sonofabitch. "Champion of the Second
Amendment" my aching *****.
Kerry is back by convicted felon Soros. Soros was convicted of
insider trading in 2002. Soros has financed the big blizzard of
lawsuits against gun companies in an effort to bankrupt them.
Yeah, so?
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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20 Apr 2004 09:08:54 AM |
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"Demmie Goofball Kerry" <BigJokeKerry@DNC.org> wrote
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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20 Apr 2004 09:19:56 AM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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"Demmie Goofball Kerry" <BigJokeKerry@DNC.org> wrote
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
Better than Kerry. BTW, Gore's campaign was also bankrolled by Ken Lay. The
difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you get stopped by
a cop. Kerry is on record lying to Congress about Vietnam. He is also on
record as saying he "gave his medals back", yet he actuay gave someone ese's
medals back. He's a lying sack of *****.
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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20 Apr 2004 01:22:32 PM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
Better than Kerry. BTW, Gore's campaign was also bankrolled by Ken Lay.
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry (including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you get stopped
by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught? I guess you're saying that DUI
doesn't matter because some people get away with it. Or maybe you're
conceding that, while Bush & Cheney together share 3 DUI convictions,
they most likely violated the law far more often than that, but just
didn't get caught.
Kerry is on record lying to Congress about Vietnam. He is also on
record as saying he "gave his medals back", yet he actuay gave someone ese's
medals back. He's a lying sack of *****.
Prove it. Then explain why his lies are more significant than Bush's
repeated lies to Congress, the American public, and the world at large
in order to get us to unilaterally wage war on a nation that posed no
threat whatsoever to our national security.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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20 Apr 2004 01:29:25 PM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
Better than Kerry. BTW, Gore's campaign was also bankrolled by Ken Lay.
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry (including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
Funny, ain't it, how you PROVIDED NO CITES FOR ANY OF IT.
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you get
stopped
by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught?
Must be, since Gore did it and his kids did it
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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20 Apr 2004 05:55:47 PM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
Better than Kerry. BTW, Gore's campaign was also bankrolled by Ken Lay.
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry (including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
Funny, ain't it, how you PROVIDED NO CITES FOR ANY OF IT.
It's called LEXIS. Go to your library and try it some time. It's all
public information, though, so you should be able to find it yourself.
Of course, YOU're the one who asserted that Ken Lay bankrolled Gore's
campaign, so I'm sure you have some contrary evidence...
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you get
stopped
by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught?
Must be, since Gore did it and his kids did it
They drove under the influence? Now THAT deserves a cite. I'll wait.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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20 Apr 2004 06:16:49 PM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
Better than Kerry. BTW, Gore's campaign was also bankrolled by Ken
Lay.
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry (including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
Funny, ain't it, how you PROVIDED NO CITES FOR ANY OF IT.
It's called LEXIS. Go to your library and try it some time. It's all
public information, though, so you should be able to find it yourself.
Of course, YOU're the one who asserted that Ken Lay bankrolled Gore's
campaign, so I'm sure you have some contrary evidence...
Been posted by another.
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you
get
stopped
by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught?
Must be, since Gore did it and his kids did it
They drove under the influence? Now THAT deserves a cite. I'll wait.
Gore was a pothead in college DUI involves more that just booze. As for his
kids:
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/9/14/110501
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News of 19-year-old Albert Gore III's Sept. 5 drunk driving arrest wasn't
reported for a full eight days - until a political gossip column in the
Washington Times broke the news blockade yesterday.
The media cover-up of Gore Jr.'s latest brush with the law stands in marked
contrast to alcohol-related offenses involving the Bush family, stories the
press has repeatedly rushed into print over the last two years."
This kid was also kicked out of school for smoking pot. Like father, like
son
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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21 Apr 2004 01:48:55 PM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry (including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
Funny, ain't it, how you PROVIDED NO CITES FOR ANY OF IT.
It's called LEXIS. Go to your library and try it some time. It's all
public information, though, so you should be able to find it yourself.
Of course, YOU're the one who asserted that Ken Lay bankrolled Gore's
campaign, so I'm sure you have some contrary evidence...
Been posted by another.
In other words, you have no evidence. Thanks.
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not you
get stopped by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught?
Must be, since Gore did it and his kids did it
They drove under the influence? Now THAT deserves a cite. I'll wait.
Gore was a pothead in college DUI involves more that just booze.
So in other words you have no evidence that Gore ever drove stoned.
Thanks.
As for his kids:
Funny, I'm pretty sure Gore's kids weren't running for office.
Besides, given the antics of the Bush girls, getting into a pissing
match over whose kids have a greater proclivity for underage drinking
and drug use seems like a losing proposition for any Bush fan. The
difference, of course, is that Bush has used his presidency to make
the so-called "War On Drugs" even more draconian, favoring long prison
terms and the denial of an education to any kids caught doing exactly
what his own kids have been caught doing repeatedly (yet somehow
evading the strict punishment he confers on others). Find me a Bush
fan who isn't a complete hypocrite on the drug issue, and I'll find
you a cow with wings.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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21 Apr 2004 06:11:45 PM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
Funny definition of "bankrolled." Lay gave $100,000 directly to
Bush,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GOP through soft
dollar
contributions, as well as an additional $300,000 for the Bush
inauguration. Lay gave NO money to the Democrats (though Enron
gave a
whopping $13,750 to the Gore campaign). And, of course, as result
Lay
bought himself access to Cheney's secret energy commission, though
Cheney's steadfast refusal to let the American people see how his
energy policy was bought & paid for by the energy industry
(including
Enron) is on its way to the Supreme Court.
Funny, ain't it, how you PROVIDED NO CITES FOR ANY OF IT.
It's called LEXIS. Go to your library and try it some time. It's all
public information, though, so you should be able to find it yourself.
Of course, YOU're the one who asserted that Ken Lay bankrolled Gore's
campaign, so I'm sure you have some contrary evidence...
Been posted by another.
In other words, you have no evidence. Thanks.
The difference between getting DUI and not is: whether or not
you
get stopped by a cop.
So it's ok if you don't get caught?
Must be, since Gore did it and his kids did it
They drove under the influence? Now THAT deserves a cite. I'll wait.
Gore was a pothead in college DUI involves more that just booze.
So in other words you have no evidence that Gore ever drove stoned.
Thanks.
As for his kids:
Funny, I'm pretty sure Gore's kids weren't running for office.
Funny, neiter were Bush's kids, but fucktards like you made a big stink
about them, while little Chesa was getting sytoned and pulling the train.
<plonk>
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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22 Apr 2004 11:43:44 AM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
As for his kids:
Funny, I'm pretty sure Gore's kids weren't running for office.
Funny, neiter were Bush's kids, but fucktards like you made a big stink
about them, while little Chesa was getting sytoned and pulling the train.
I have no idea what this means. I do know that nobody gives a *****
what Bush's girls do -- I certainly don't. What I care about is his
hypocrisy in upping the penalties for doing exactly what his own
daughters have repeatedly done, and Bush has himself admitted doing.
In Bush's America, marijuana smokers can receive 25 years in prison.
Simple possession of pot means never obtaining a student loan.
Ashcroft is cracking down on cancer patients smoking pot to ease
nausea. I don't see Bush cracking down his own daughters, or turning
himself in to the local authorities for his coke use.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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22 Apr 2004 05:31:54 PM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
As for his kids:
Funny, I'm pretty sure Gore's kids weren't running for office.
Funny, neiter were Bush's kids, but fucktards like you made a big stink
about them, while little Chesa was getting sytoned and pulling the
train.
I have no idea what this means. I do know that nobody gives a *****
what Bush's girls do -- I certainly don't. What I care about is his
hypocrisy in upping the penalties for doing exactly what his own
daughters have repeatedly done, and Bush has himself admitted doing.
In Bush's America, marijuana smokers can receive 25 years in prison.
Simple possession of pot means never obtaining a student loan.
Ashcroft is cracking down on cancer patients smoking pot to ease
nausea. I don't see Bush cracking down his own daughters, or turning
himself in to the local authorities for his coke use.
There's your fucking problem. The PRESS made a big fucking deal out of
everything the Bush kids did, while ignoring Gore's kids. BTW, FUCKTARD,
there is ZERO evidence that Bush EVER did cocaine; however, the line of folk
who smoked pot and opium with Gore went around the block
<plonk>
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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22 Apr 2004 10:24:48 PM |
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"Morton Davis" <oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote
There's your fucking problem. The PRESS made a big fucking deal out of
everything the Bush kids did, while ignoring Gore's kids. BTW, FUCKTARD,
there is ZERO evidence that Bush EVER did cocaine; however, the line of folk
who smoked pot and opium with Gore went around the block
<plonk>
Why so hostile? Some anonymous person (i.e. me) writes a message on a
newsgroup, and you get so worked up you can't utter a coherent
sentence without resorting to profanity and name-calling? You really
need to do something about your self-esteem. It's pretty sad.
In any event, I defy you to demonstrate (with citation, none of this
"I'm conservative, I can just make it up" business) that, during the
'00 election, more attention was paid to Bush's kids than Gore's. Go
for it. As for coverage of the Bush girls AFTER their father stole
the presidency -- it's actually been shockingly hands-off, part of the
media's kid-glove treatment of Bush. Not that the press SHOULD focus
on the girls, but they could certainly do more to point out Bush's
hypocrisy in revving up the drug war while excusing the same conduct
in his own family. And Bush more or less ADMITTED being a coke head
-- he claimed he hasn't used it in 17 years, and anything prior to
that is his own business (funny how drug use isn't one's own business
for anyone but Bush & his kids under Bush's drug war). As someone who
has been a federal prosecutor, I'd KILL for a defendant to give such a
"denial" -- it'd make my job a whole lot easier.
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| User: "Edmund Kerry" |
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20 Apr 2004 12:35:21 PM |
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(Pop Kulcher) wrote in message news:<7a114423.0404200608.408dedf7@posting.google.com>...
"Demmie Goofball Kerry" <BigJokeKerry@DNC.org> wrote
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
Clinton played golf with Ken Lay on a regular basis. Show me one
picture of Bush playing golf with Lay. Clinton demanded bribes from
Enron to get on Ron Brown's Dept of Commerce trips.
Kerry called American GIs in Vietnam baby killers and lied in front of
a Senate committee about Nam to make a name for himself. Kerry is an
opportunist gigolo & scum.
Pop Klutcher? Are you the loser with the Top 50 rock albums that does
not include Pet Sounds and left Never Mind The Bollocks out of the Top
Ten?
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| User: "reg" |
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20 Apr 2004 03:21:47 PM |
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Enron donated $100,000 to Clinton's 1993 inauguration and a further $25,000
in 1993.
"Edmund Kerry" <edmundirvine@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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popkulcher2@home.com (Pop Kulcher) wrote in message
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"Demmie Goofball Kerry" <BigJokeKerry@DNC.org> wrote
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
And both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of DUI. Their last
campaign was bankrolled by Ken Lay. Really super set of guys to be
leading the country.
Clinton played golf with Ken Lay on a regular basis. Show me one
picture of Bush playing golf with Lay. Clinton demanded bribes from
Enron to get on Ron Brown's Dept of Commerce trips.
Kerry called American GIs in Vietnam baby killers and lied in front of
a Senate committee about Nam to make a name for himself. Kerry is an
opportunist gigolo & scum.
Pop Klutcher? Are you the loser with the Top 50 rock albums that does
not include Pet Sounds and left Never Mind The Bollocks out of the Top
Ten?
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| User: "Edmund Kerry" |
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20 Apr 2004 08:59:22 AM |
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"Demmie Goofball Kerry" <BigJokeKerry@DNC.org> wrote in message news:<1q7hc.15164$l75.2033@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"You Know Who" <uno@who.us> wrote in message
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In talk.politics.guns (Edmund Kerry) wrote:
You Know Who <uno@who.us> wrote in message
news:<e1cb340c4a0001040ff21ce837038548@news.teranews.com>...
Cheny- ***** you, you lying sonofabitch. "Champion of the Second
Amendment" my aching *****.
Kerry is back by convicted felon Soros. Soros was convicted of
insider trading in 2002. Soros has financed the big blizzard of
lawsuits against gun companies in an effort to bankrupt them.
Yeah, so?
So Kerry is relying on convicted felons in this campaign.
Typical Democrat behavior.
Not only that but Soros wants to see guns banned in the United States.
He is a global troublemaker who attempts to buy govts in eastern
Europe. He got wealthy through insider trading or essentially
cheating small investors. He should be in jail.
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| User: "Pop Kulcher" |
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20 Apr 2004 12:57:15 PM |
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(Edmund Kerry) wrote
He got wealthy through insider trading or essentially
cheating small investors. He should be in jail.
Who, Bush? Then why do you support him?
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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20 Apr 2004 01:12:58 PM |
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"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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edmundirvine@hotmail.com (Edmund Kerry) wrote
He got wealthy through insider trading or essentially
cheating small investors. He should be in jail.
Who, Bush? Then why do you support him?
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
-*MORT*-
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20 Apr 2004 01:35:45 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:12:58 GMT, "Morton Davis"
<oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote:
"Pop Kulcher" <popkulcher2@home.com> wrote in message
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edmundirvine@hotmail.com (Edmund Kerry) wrote
He got wealthy through insider trading or essentially
cheating small investors. He should be in jail.
Who, Bush? Then why do you support him?
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
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"'Simplify, simplify.'....I wanted to simplify. No wants,
no needs, no hungers. Only rifles....I was at my best with
a rifle in my hand. I always loved rifles. So I decided to
live in such a way that the rifle would be all I needed.
And I succeeded."
Bob the Nailer
_Point of Impact_
by
Stephen Hunter
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20 Apr 2004 04:52:02 PM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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20 Apr 2004 05:11:03 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for
it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
John as gone rabid of ate. Pay him no mind. If the sky clouds over, to John,
it's Bush's fault.
-*MORT*-
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20 Apr 2004 05:48:07 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:11:03 GMT, "Morton Davis"
<oglethorpe@oglethorpe.com> wrote:
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for
it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
John as gone rabid of ate. Pay him no mind. If the sky clouds over, to John,
it's Bush's fault.
No, I just believe in freedom rather than being a good little slave of
the state like you are.
You, know nothing about what freedom is since you don't have it and
would deny it to others.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj4n3/cj4n3-13.pdf
"The modern academic literature now recognizes that there is no
significant economic harm to any identifiable group of investors from
insider trading. The serious literature does not even address that
question anymore. The SEC still makes the “fairness” argument3—
the argument that it is not fair for some people to have property and
others not to have it—but most scholars now understand the
intellectual merit of that kind of argument."
read the above and think for a change.
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"We're not fighting for slaves.
Most of us never owned slaves and never expect to,
It takes money to buy a slave and we're most of us poor,
But we won't lie down and let the North walk over us
About slaves or anything else."
Confederate Soldiers
_John Brown' Body_
a book length poem
by Stephen Vincent Benét
1926
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20 Apr 2004 06:34:32 PM |
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Bob wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
To hell with those that don't know how to diversify! :/
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| User: "Karl Hungus" |
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20 Apr 2004 08:58:36 PM |
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"AH#49" <AH@your.net> wrote in message news:4085B3FB.B8C50284@your.net...
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
To hell with those that don't know how to diversify! :/
Woe be to he who puts all his eggs in one basket!
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| User: "" |
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06 May 2004 10:22:00 AM |
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"Karl Hungus" <karlhungus@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"AH#49" <AH@your.net> wrote in message news:4085B3FB.B8C50284@your.net...
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
To hell with those that don't know how to diversify! :/
Woe be to he who puts all his eggs in one basket!
I only buy Harley Davidson stock, from the last crash at $10.00
and never looked back.
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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20 Apr 2004 05:08:54 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rara80ppv1sm00on670vev1nfjotc5mod3@4ax.com...
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
As I said a non-crime in the same class as tax evasion an invention of
the state for it's benefit.
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"'Simplify, simplify.'....I wanted to simplify. No wants,
no needs, no hungers. Only rifles....I was at my best with
a rifle in my hand. I always loved rifles. So I decided to
live in such a way that the rifle would be all I needed.
And I succeeded."
Bob the Nailer
_Point of Impact_
by
Stephen Hunter
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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| Title: Re: Cheney Says Kerry a Threat to Gun Owners - Soros Convicted Felon & Troublemaker |
21 Apr 2004 04:32:18 AM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rara80ppv1sm00on670vev1nfjotc5mod3@4ax.com...
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
Looks like you wouldn't have a problem with a local furniture store that went
out of business. They continued taking down payments and writing contracts right
up to the day they closed, KNOWING they would not be making delivery on these
sales. They knew, the customers didn't. So what, right?
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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21 Apr 2004 06:08:27 AM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:32:18 GMT, "Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net>
wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pm7b809id80setglp9ubinfubmi19jj1qa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rara80ppv1sm00on670vev1nfjotc5mod3@4ax.com...
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
Looks like you wouldn't have a problem with a local furniture store that went
out of business. They continued taking down payments and writing contracts right
up to the day they closed, KNOWING they would not be making delivery on these
sales. They knew, the customers didn't. So what, right?
Not the same but apparently you can't tell the difference.
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"The National Rifle Association has been in support of
workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its
very inception in 1871."
NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth
NRA's American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22
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| User: "Yardpilot" |
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21 Apr 2004 11:43:07 PM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:32:18 GMT, "Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net>
wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pm7b809id80setglp9ubinfubmi19jj1qa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rara80ppv1sm00on670vev1nfjotc5mod3@4ax.com...
No. Sorros got rich on insider trading. He's also been convicyed for
it.
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
Looks like you wouldn't have a problem with a local furniture store that went
out of business. They continued taking down payments and writing contracts
right
up to the day they closed, KNOWING they would not be making delivery on these
sales. They knew, the customers didn't. So what, right?
Not the same but apparently you can't tell the difference.
It's the same. I can't help you with your biases.
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| User: "Allan K. Lindsay-ONeal" |
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21 Apr 2004 12:01:36 AM |
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"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
news:pm7b809id80setglp9ubinfubmi19jj1qa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" wrote:
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
As I said a non-crime in the same class as tax evasion an invention of
the state for it's benefit.
John, I respectfully have to disagree here. Stocks pay dividends that
provide an income stream to pension funds and other retired persons. Union
members, teachers, and charitable organizations that rely on block gifts of
stock are affected when stock values go up or down.
Insider trading depends on foreknowledge of what's going to happen to a
company: the product is turned down by the FDA, an obscure patent is found
delaying market entry ... things like that have a material impact on the
worth of that stock in the market place, and a worthless stock pays nothing
to anybody. When management bails out of its' own company and leaves the
stockholders with nothing, these guys have deprived people of part of their
livelihoods both now and into the foreseeable future.
And any time you inflict that kind of harm on folks you don't even know has
to be held a crime.
My two cents.
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| User: "John A. Stovall" |
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21 Apr 2004 06:11:17 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:01:36 -0700, "Allan K. Lindsay-O'Neal"
<allan@utopia.net> wrote:
"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
news:pm7b809id80setglp9ubinfubmi19jj1qa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0500, "Bob" wrote:
A non-crime. Where is the victim?
Other stockholders.
http://www.capitalism.org/faq/insider_trading.htm
"What is "insider" trading?
The essential principle of socialism, applied to the physical realm,
is that property belongs to the "public" regardless of who undertook
the effort to create the property. The insider trading laws are its
intellectual corollary; if government can take control of the physical
creations of your body, it is no great stretch to expect it will take
control the intellectual results of your mind, i.e., knowledge. The
result is the socialist corruption of the free market known as
"insider" trading. The idea that knowledge gained within a company,
about that company and its products, belongs to the public, because
that company sells its shares to the public."
As I said a non-crime in the same class as tax evasion an invention of
the state for it's benefit.
John, I respectfully have to disagree here. Stocks pay dividends that
provide an income stream to pension funds and other retired persons. Union
members, teachers, and charitable organizations that rely on block gifts of
stock are affected when stock values go up or down.
Insider trading depends on foreknowledge of what's going to happen to a
company: the product is turned down by the FDA, an obscure patent is found
delaying market entry ... things like that have a material impact on the
worth of that stock in the market place, and a worthless stock pays nothing
to anybody. When management bails out of its' own company and leaves the
stockholders with nothing, these guys have deprived people of part of their
livelihoods both now and into the foreseeable future.
And any time you inflict that kind of harm on folks you don't even know has
to be held a crime.
My two cents.
Well read this and ask for your two cents back.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj4n3/cj4n3-13.pdf
"The modern academic literature now recognizes that there is no
significant economic harm to any identifiable group of investors from
insider trading. The serious literature does not even address that
question anymore. The SEC still makes the “fairness” argument3—
the argument that it is not fair for some people to have property and
others not to have it—but most scholars now understand the
intellectual merit of that kind of argument."
So the evidence doesn't appear to support your views.
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"Minister of War, we are the king's claws and fangs.
Why should you roll us on from misery to misery,
Giving us no place to stop in or take rest?"
"Minister of War"
(translated from the Chinese by Arthur Waley)
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| User: "Allan K. Lindsay-ONeal" |
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| Title: Re: Cheney Says Kerry a Threat to Gun Owners - Soros Convicted Felon & Troublemaker |
21 Apr 2004 02:10:58 PM |
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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3jlc80tuess2g0cu2292gec68brnk0hd2c@4ax.com...
"The modern academic literature now recognizes that there is no
significant economic harm to any identifiable group of investors from
insider trading. The serious literature does not even address that
question anymore. The SEC still makes the "fairness" argument3-
the argument that it is not fair for some people to have property and
others not to have it-but most scholars now understand the
intellectual merit of that kind of argument."
So the evidence doesn't appear to support your views.
Tell that to the people whose retirement was destroyed thanks to the insider
trading at Enron and WorldCom.
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