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17 Dec 2003 06:17:01 AM |
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Re: CIA Questions Saddam: Negotiating The Story |
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Ken [NY)" <email@IsBelow.Text> wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:03:12 GMT, "C. Pangus"
<craigpangus@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Bush & Co just don't seem to get it: the more they try to hide the less
they will be trusted.
Yes, that is the paradox - the more evidence uncovered, the
more the evidence MUST be bogus. If the US dug up video tapes of
Saddam Hussein sodomizing women, the critics would probably bleat that
Hollywood is now in on the conspiracy against poor old Saddam.
Who has denied that Saddam was into the despotic dictator role in a big
way?
The issue for going into Iraq was WMD and the fear that he would give them
to terrorists, not that he did nasty things to people on a whim.
Your sentence makes it sound as if you Democrats imagine WMDs was the ONLY
reason for going into Iraq. President Bush made it clear, long before we
went into Iraq, that such was not the case.
You Democrats really need to try to begin to get a grip on reality.
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| User: "C. Pangus" |
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| Title: Re: CIA Questions Saddam: Negotiating The Story |
19 Dec 2003 05:46:21 AM |
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"DemsLackGravitas" <LiteWeightDems@RNC.net> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Ken [NY)" <email@IsBelow.Text> wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:03:12 GMT, "C. Pangus"
<craigpangus@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Bush & Co just don't seem to get it: the more they try to hide the
less
they will be trusted.
Yes, that is the paradox - the more evidence uncovered, the
more the evidence MUST be bogus. If the US dug up video tapes of
Saddam Hussein sodomizing women, the critics would probably bleat that
Hollywood is now in on the conspiracy against poor old Saddam.
Who has denied that Saddam was into the despotic dictator role in a big
way?
The issue for going into Iraq was WMD and the fear that he would give
them
to terrorists, not that he did nasty things to people on a whim.
Your sentence makes it sound as if you Democrats imagine WMDs was the ONLY
reason for going into Iraq. President Bush made it clear, long before we
went into Iraq, that such was not the case.
You Democrats really need to try to begin to get a grip on reality.
You revisionists need to stop lying. Without the WMD argument Bush
would not have gotten authorization from Congress, period.
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| User: "DDB" |
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| Title: Re: CIA Questions Saddam: Negotiating The Story |
17 Dec 2003 08:13:18 AM |
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"DemsLackGravitas" <LiteWeightDems@RNC.net> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Ken [NY)" <email@IsBelow.Text> wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:03:12 GMT, "C. Pangus"
<craigpangus@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Bush & Co just don't seem to get it: the more they try to hide the
less
they will be trusted.
Yes, that is the paradox - the more evidence uncovered, the
more the evidence MUST be bogus. If the US dug up video tapes of
Saddam Hussein sodomizing women, the critics would probably bleat that
Hollywood is now in on the conspiracy against poor old Saddam.
Who has denied that Saddam was into the despotic dictator role in a big
way?
The issue for going into Iraq was WMD and the fear that he would give
them
to terrorists, not that he did nasty things to people on a whim.
I know this doesn't belong to the idiot Gravitas by I wanted to reply anyway
to lawsonE's post. The Democrats contin ue ot spread a consistent lie that
the war was about WMD's when in fact it was but a small part of the
equation. The stated goal of the war was to force regime change in Iraq,
which it has. The regime change was what caused the major ript in the UN
becasue teh French didn't want theri favored trading partner removed from
power. Futher evidence of that came when france tried to block the governing
from being recognized at the UN, that indicated that frozen funds would be
released to them and trade sanctions lifted, France didn't want that either
since they had pretty much a captive customer in Saddam and dropping
sanctions woul destroy their niche market.
Your sentence makes it sound as if you Democrats imagine WMDs was the ONLY
reason for going into Iraq. President Bush made it clear, long before we
went into Iraq, that such was not the case.
You Democrats really need to try to begin to get a grip on reality.
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| User: "Hugh Gibbons" |
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| Title: Re: CIA Questions Saddam: Negotiating The Story |
17 Dec 2003 11:08:22 PM |
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In article <zOadnaTSJPwW-X2iRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"DDB" <IHatNoOne@Fakecomcast.net> wrote:
I know this doesn't belong to the idiot Gravitas by I wanted to reply anyway
to lawsonE's post. The Democrats contin ue ot spread a consistent lie that
the war was about WMD's when in fact it was but a small part of the
equation. The stated goal of the war was to force regime change in Iraq,
which it has.
Regime change was the stated goal, but the published motive was WMDs.
They were supposed to be a threat to western civilization! Without
the prime rationale stated in the buildup of the case against Iraq, just
what was the reason we needed to spend hundreds of billions,
hundreds of American lives and untold thousands of Iraqi lives, military
and civilian? Or was it all just a big mistake, like those ficticious
nuclear materials that Iraqi officials were trying to purchase in Niger?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Enjoy Being In The Killfile |
17 Dec 2003 07:17:06 AM |
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Yeah, you sound EXACTLY like Barbara Walker... Being a true-blue
conservative, I feel that your idiocy does more to injure my cause than
what even the most rabid liberals in this newsgroup spout. Hopefully
somebody will have your access to UseNET completely and permanently
revoked.
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Mr_Blonde Presents the: "MORON OF THE MONTH" Club:
LNC, Adam Albright, Clough, DemsLackGravitas
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| User: "JoettaB" |
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| Title: Re: Enjoy Being In The Killfile |
07 Jan 2004 04:18:35 PM |
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<Mr_Blonde@ReservoirDogs.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94544A0D8151BMrBlondeReservoirDog@newssvr11-ext.news.prodigy.com...
Yeah, you sound EXACTLY like Barbara Walker... Being a true-blue
conservative, I feel that your idiocy does more to injure my cause than
what even the most rabid liberals in this newsgroup spout. Hopefully
somebody will have your access to UseNET completely and permanently
revoked.
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Mr_Blonde Presents the: "MORON OF THE MONTH" Club:
LNC, Adam Albright, Clough, DemsLackGravitas
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Kinda proves my point. Old Babs/Barabara
Walker/Rene/Steamroller/Dems[anything negative],Dean[anything negative]/et
al has been the BEST recruitment tool the DNC has had working the newsgroup
circuit in a long, long time.
But... will somebody ahve his/her/its access to UseNet completely and
permanently revoked? Well, I suppose if she started threatening to kill
people--especially the President, then it might happen. But otherwise? Nope.
Not going to happen. Most, if not all, ISPs respond with a "we don't monitor
or limit the freedom of speech of newsgroup posters."
So, that said, keep up the good work, Babs! We needed a damned good
recruitment tool. <grin>
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| User: "DDB" |
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| Title: Re: Enjoy Being In The Killfile |
17 Dec 2003 08:15:30 AM |
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<Mr_Blonde@ReservoirDogs.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94544A0D8151BMrBlondeReservoirDog@newssvr11-ext.news.prodigy.com...
Yeah, you sound EXACTLY like Barbara Walker... Being a true-blue
conservative, I feel that your idiocy does more to injure my cause than
what even the most rabid liberals in this newsgroup spout. Hopefully
somebody will have your access to UseNET completely and permanently
revoked.
Mr Blond's version of freedom of speech, removing another persons NG access
because he disagrees with their point of view. The best of liberalism as
display by the loathsome character MR Blonde.
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Mr_Blonde Presents the: "MORON OF THE MONTH" Club:
LNC, Adam Albright, Clough, DemsLackGravitas
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Enjoy Being In The Killfile |
17 Dec 2003 09:04:07 AM |
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Yeah, you sound EXACTLY like Barbara Walker... Being a true-blue
conservative, I feel that your idiocy does more to injure my cause
than what even the most rabid liberals in this newsgroup spout.
Hopefully somebody will have your access to UseNET completely and
permanently revoked.
Mr Blond's version of freedom of speech, removing another persons NG
access because he disagrees with their point of view. The best of
liberalism as display by the loathsome character MR Blonde.
Well, bubba... I guess you're not too familiar with the character of the
"Barbara Walker" creature are you? And if you bothered to READ the post,
you'd find that the person I refer to claims to be in TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH
MY POSITION as a conservative, *not* someone I disagree with. It's simply
that the amount of insults and attacks said person spouts are more than
most people want to put up with. Besides which, how is my desire that an
annoying person shut up a desire to limit freedom of speech? When you go
to a film and some jerk yaps on his cel phone during the showing, does your
desire that he shut up equal a limitation of free speech?
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Mr_Blonde Presents the: "MORON OF THE MONTH" Club:
LNC, Adam Albright, Clough, DemsLackGravitas
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| User: "DDB" |
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| Title: Re: Enjoy Being In The Killfile |
17 Dec 2003 09:31:56 AM |
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<Mr_Blonde@ReservoirDogs.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94545C31B36CAMrBlondeReservoirDog@newssvr23-ext.news.prodigy.com...
Yeah, you sound EXACTLY like Barbara Walker... Being a true-blue
conservative, I feel that your idiocy does more to injure my cause
than what even the most rabid liberals in this newsgroup spout.
Hopefully somebody will have your access to UseNET completely and
permanently revoked.
Mr Blond's version of freedom of speech, removing another persons NG
access because he disagrees with their point of view. The best of
liberalism as display by the loathsome character MR Blonde.
Well, bubba... I guess you're not too familiar with the character of the
"Barbara Walker" creature are you? And if you bothered to READ the post,
you'd find that the person I refer to claims to be in TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH
MY POSITION as a conservative, *not* someone I disagree with. It's simply
that the amount of insults and attacks said person spouts are more than
most people want to put up with. Besides which, how is my desire that an
annoying person shut up a desire to limit freedom of speech? When you go
to a film and some jerk yaps on his cel phone during the showing, does
your
desire that he shut up equal a limitation of free speech?
It's not he same at all, when you come to NG you expect a good debate and
some folks will even call you names. Especially if they lack Gravitas as
Barbara does but you claimed you wanted her access to UseNet completely and
permenantly revoked which is after all simply an attempt to limit her
freedom of speech. If you don't like what she says simply PLONK her. I
suspect your like me when it come to Gravitas, it's like watching a train
wreck you want to divert your eyes buut just can't. I find most of her post
naive and down right rediculous but I also receive great entertainment at
watching others try to debate with an idiot. To me its like the
entertainment value of Rush, what he says is less important and much less
entertaining than the reaction he gets from the Democrats, if they simply
stopped reacting he simply wouldn't be that entertaining but like a moth to
a light bulb they can't stop themselves. .
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Mr_Blonde Presents the: "MORON OF THE MONTH" Club:
LNC, Adam Albright, Clough, DemsLackGravitas
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