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Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"T Jr Hardman" |
| Date: |
04 May 2006 12:19:35 PM |
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Re: Civil war in 2010 - or sooner? |
Michael Vilkin wrote:
Sandy, I like your approach. The environment !!!
Why don't we try to make connections with militant environmentalists
like Earth Liberation Front? Maybe they will be more effective with
illegals? At least they know how to blow up wetbacks.
Sandy, I'd like to ask you the following. Please locate
environmentalist newsgroups and explain to them the impact of illegal
immigration on our environment. Just a few points.
Urban sprawl is out of control. Open space is disappearing.
Agricultural land is disappearing one development at a time. Our
highways are clogged. We sit in traffic for hours, burning gas and
poisoning the environment. And Mexicans like Ramon preach Mexican
economics - that America needs more Mexicans and more destruction of
our environment.
Don't write new messages every time. Create one message, save it as a
file, and post it every day in different environmental groups.
Don't tell them to blow up illegals. That would be against the law.
Let's hope that environmentalists will locate illegals on their own.
--Michael Vilkin
Mr Vilkin:
Let's not go around blowing up anything, let's leave that to the
military and SWAT teams.
That being said, if you try to talk to the Greens, or the Sierra Club,
mostly what you will get is a sort of odd bleating, symptomatic of
people laboring under severe Cognitive Dissonance. On the one hand, they
can gobble like a pack of turkeys about the horrors of destruction of
Old Growth Forests in the most remote parts of the country. Yet where
the complete eradication of anything natural is running amok, and where
the few surviving species are integrating into a rather odd and
simplified ecology of weed species and scavengers which can't easily
exist without massive human overapplication of fertilizers and the
setting out of trash, you can show these people how illegal aliens move
into a house and live at outrageous population densities while paving
their yards and parking fuel-inefficient fleets of work vehicles on
their paved yards, and all you will get from the Green and most of the
Sierra Club types is more gobbling, but of a different kind.
They start gobbling about how it's the American Way, and it really truly
is the American Way, to cut down, to plow under, to destroy habitat, to
drive native species extinct and replace them with imports. Read the
history of the European colonizations of the Americas and you will see
that it is in fact the American Way. Point this out to the Greens and
the Sierra Club types, and then also point out to them that it's
precisely why those movements began, to _change_ that American Way into
a new American Way, one which took the time to study the impacts before
taking action, and taking no action which had major or negative impacts.
Then be sure to ask the Greens or Sierra Club types how they can
reconcile their organization and personal goals, towards which ends they
had been having rather remarkable success, with a return to the Old Bad
American Colonial Destructive Way, so long as those ways are practiced
not by the citizens, but by illegal aliens?
Be prepared for the reaction you will get: feeding them that conundrum
is the activation switch for a self-cooking turkey. But they won't go
quiet into that good night, but the redoubled gobbling you will hear is
only the sound of self-basting.
My point is, the established Environmentalist Movement is really not the
place to turn your hopes.
So far as I know, the only ideological movement in the USA which is
relatively reasonable and rational and which both supports the
environment and wishes to stop the massive immigration -- legal or
otherwise -- which threatens to destroy us all by wiping out the natural
ecosystem, is the Radical Centrist Movement. While they claim to be
non-partisan (which is coming to be seen as another term for Centrist),
you will find a huge amount of documentary support at NumbersUSA.Com and
they a so Centristly non-partisan that they will allow all citizens,
regardless of their party affiliations, to Fax Congress Free with your
remarks, complaints, and suggestions about stabilizing the US population
by limiting mass immigration (legal or otherwise).
--
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool
than to speak foolishness and remove all doubt.
--Aesop
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| User: "Michael Vilkin" |
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| Title: Re: Civil war in 2010 - or sooner? |
05 May 2006 08:31:45 PM |
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Mr. Hardman, I thought about your explanation, and I agree with you..
Also, I think that "the established Environmentalist Movement", as you
say, acts very rationally, and here is why.
Environmentalists need environmental problems to exist. The more
problems, the more money they will collect. It's not in their best
interests to solve problems. Even if they could magically solve all the
problems, they would not do it.
Some time ago I had an idea how to improve standard of living and to
help our environment at the same time. The idea is very simple.
Let's build modern new cities with modern public transporatation. Huge
city blocks with a school in every residential block, so that kids
would walk to the school, not to ride in SUVs.
The same trains that run in the New York subway can run on the surface.
Most people would not even need cars.
By my calculations, a city of 10 million people can be built on 100 sq.
miles. 10 miles by 10 miles. Most of the 10 million people would live
without personal cars. Mostly, commercial traffic would be present in
the city - to make deliveries of goods, etc.
A free market needs a little push from the government to build such a
city. Maybe, the federal government should donate a piece of land - the
federal government owns about 50% of land in the West - or give sizable
tax incentives, or both. To make a long story short, none of the
environmentalist organizations was interested even to discuss this
idea. Now I understand it. If they solve the problem, what will they
***** about?
Some time ago I checked financial statements of PETA. They collect well
more than $10 million every year from their donors. I don't remember
the exact figure.
These movements need issues. Without issues they will have no donors.
--Michael Vilkin
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