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User: "Avenger"
Date: 11 Jan 2008 02:47:00 PM
Object: Re: Clinton On Immigration: 'No Woman Is Illegal'...
Hillary will never be elected to anything so don't worry. If by some miracle
she gets the nomination, that's when the real fun starts and all the dirt
comes out :o)
The reason she got "elected" in NY is because ANY democrat they put up would
have won it. The NY democrat party stepped aisde when Bill told them she
wanted to run and the real candidate did too. On her own she couldn't get
elected ratcatcher in Chappaqua lol
"Masculist" <MASCULIST@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:331bb28e-9862-45fa-81b3-e53efb2fa416@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

From Drudge

Hillary at a Las Vegas rally:

"No woman is illegal," Clinton said, to cheers.

Here she attaches feminism to supporting illegal immigration. Now are
the pundits and politicians going to address feminism? It seems the
***** boys have no choice.

Let us not forget that feminism is supported are on both the Left and
Right and that's why the Right is doing nothing about it. That's how
they were able to do the illegal immigration wave. That's how many of
the issues pissing everyone off has been done.

Smitty

http://www.lvrj.com/news/13702902.html

LAS VEGAS STOP: Clinton pitch hits home

Democratic hopeful goes door to door

By MOLLY BALL
REVIEW-JOURNAL

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton meets the locals
while touring a Las Vegas neighborhood Thursday evening. She also
participated in a discussion about the housing foreclosure crisis at
the Lindo Michoacan restaurant on Desert Inn Road.
Photos by John Locher.



Gilberto Santana, left, and his wife, Elizabeth, talk with Hillary
Clinton in their home Thursday in Las Vegas. Clinton was joined on her
walk through the neighborhood by state Assemblyman Ruben Kihuen,
second from right, and her daughter, Chelsea.

People in the Las Vegas neighborhood saw all the cameras and trucks
and buses and police on the streets Thursday, and they began to
trickle out of their houses to find out what was going on.

Soon, as a sherbet-orange desert sunset filled the sky, they got their
answer, as New York Sen. Hillary Clinton began walking up the street
of low-slung houses near Eastern and Washington avenues, accompanied
by the area's representative, state Assemblyman Ruben Kihuen.

Clinton hugged Kihuen around the shoulders and asked about his family,
and then the two began knocking on doors, the same doors Kihuen
knocked on nearly two years ago in his first campaign. Clinton spent
more than an hour in the predominantly Hispanic and black
neighborhood.

Gilberto Santana, 38, sat on the edge of a chair as Clinton sat on the
brown leather sofa in his living room next to his wife and two young
children.

Santana told Clinton how his wife, Elizabeth, a housekeeper on the
Strip, was barely supporting the family single-handedly while he was
unable to work for two months because of an operation.

"We're sort of struggling," he said. "We're getting there, but you
have to be strong to make it."

Clinton asked the couple questions about their mortgage and his
disability payments, and answered his questions about immigration and
the war and health care costs.

Stroking the 4-year-old girl's head, Clinton said, "I feel so strongly
that if we don't take care of our children, we don't take care of our
future."

Santana said, "We are going to do everything we can to make sure that
everyone in Las Vegas votes for you."

That is the warm, earnest, human side of campaigning, politicians
comforting people with detailed explanations of how they will solve
their problems and flattering them with their presence.

There was nobody who didn't know who the Democratic presidential
candidate and former first lady was, even if they didn't speak English
or weren't old enough to vote. They flocked to her for camera-phone
pictures, and she posed in tableaux of adorable multicultural
children.

But Clinton is in the final heat of an intense race for the Democratic
nomination, and Nevada, which holds the Democrats' next contest, on
Jan. 19, is ground zero for that cold, hard fight.

After leaving the Santanas' house, Clinton walked across the street
and took questions from a few of the dozens of reporters, standing in
front of a faded American flag pinned to a dingy garage door.

Today, Clinton is scheduled to travel to Los Angeles, where she will
give a policy speech about the economy and what kind of stimulus she
believes it needs.

"I think we're slipping toward a recession," she said. "A couple of
people that I met on the street, they work in construction. They tell
me it's slowed down."

She reiterated her doubts about the caucus process, which requires in-
person, on-time participation.

"That is troubling to me," she said. "People who work during that
amount of time, they're disenfranchised. People who can't be in the
state or are in the military, they cannot be present. ... If people
feel like there's no reason to participate or they can't, then that's
the same thing. So I think it's a problem."

Clinton and her busload of traveling press moved from there to the
popular local Mexican restaurant Lindo Michoacan, where a "roundtable"
that was actually square passed a microphone around to tell her
people's concerns about the mortgage crisis and foreclosures. She took
notes and munched on tortilla chips.

In broken English, one woman told Clinton how she wasn't making money
as a broker anymore.

"I have no income at all," she said. "So how will I survive?"

Choking up with emotion, the woman said, "In my neighborhood, there
are brand-new homes, but the value is nothing. I'm glad you are here
so I can tell you, because you're going to be the president, I know."

A man shouted through an opening in the wall that his wife was
illegal.

"No woman is illegal," Clinton said, to cheers.

Summing it up at the end, Clinton said, "We've only talked to a few
people, but each of them talk about some part of the problem we are
confronting. This is a problem that is only going to get worse if we
don't address it."

Clinton said unscrupulous lending leads to bad mortgages, which lead
to foreclosures, which lead to people with nowhere to go and vacant
neighborhoods that can go rapidly downhill.

"We treat these problems as if one is guacamole and one is chips,
when ... they both go together," she said.

In an interview, Clinton enthused about Nevada but didn't predict
victory.

"I never make predictions," she said. "But I'm very confident. We've
got a great campaign here, we've got a lot of support across the
state, and it just feels good. But of course the big question mark is,
how many people are going to come out? And I keep urging people, get
out and do this, for yourselves, your families, your future."

Clinton said Nevada, which stands to break the current tie between her
and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in terms of how many victories they've
chalked up, will be an important indicator of "what the people in the
West think," but is not the end of the race.

"We have an election that'll go through February fifth, maybe beyond.
I've always run a national campaign."

Clinton said the race is "hard fought, as it should be. And I was very
pleased that starting in New Hampshire we finally began to draw some
contrasts and comparisons, because that's what voters need to have.
They need relevant information to make up their minds."

She recounted her work to help establish the Children's Health
Insurance Program, secure health care for members of the National
Guard and Reserves, and oppose the nuclear waste repository at Yucca
Mountain.

"I come with all of my experience and my lifelong commitment to making
positive change for people with a record on issues that matter to the
people of Nevada."

With change the buzzword on everyone's lips, and Obama's soaring
speeches credited with inspiring a movement of hope, she said, "I
think there's a difference between talking and acting and between
rhetoric and reality."

Clinton criticized the ethics bill that is Obama's signature
achievement, saying it doesn't prevent lobbyists from eating with
members of Congress as long as they are standing rather than sitting.

"I'm not asking people to take me on a leap of faith," she said. "I'm
asking them to look at what I bring to this race, and what I will do
as president."

She blamed President Bush and the, until recently, Republican-
controlled Congress for obstructing change.

"But change never stops," she said. "Change is going to happen whether
anybody does anything or not. The question is, is it the right kind of
change. Is it positive change?"

Clinton implied that Obama's career has mostly been spent running for
office rather than governing.

"He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to
the Senate and immediately started running for president," she said.
"And that's his prerogative. That's his right. But I think it is
important to compare and contrast our records."

Clinton, who voted to authorize the war in Iraq and now vows to end
it, criticized Obama for saying he opposed the war but then voted to
fund it.

The specter hanging over Clinton's visit Thursday was the Culinary
union, which endorsed Obama on Wednesday. The powerful union of Strip
workers, of which both Santana parents are members, cited Obama's
walking of picket lines and work as an organizer as an example of
doing rather than talking.

Clinton said that rationale sounded more like a case for John Edwards,
who "certainly has walked picket lines and has been with them
organizing." She said her labor record is as strong as anyone's.

"I've been on picket lines, I've visited picket lines. I've taken
coffee to people on picket lines," she said. "But can I just say
something? A president has to change the laws so that people have the
right to organize and bargain collectively. And a president has to be
judged, in my view, on the kind of positive results you can get on
behalf of labor," such as the recent increase in the minimum wage.

Asked whether she had the power to inspire people, Clinton said, "I've
inspired lots of people to get involved in these elections who've
never been involved before. I feel very proud of the inspiration that
I am. People tell me all the time that I'm a role model, I'm their
hero; and I'm very proud of that. But you know, when the cameras go
away, when the reporters finally get to go home, when the lights are
down, what matters is who the leader really is. And we face a lot of
problems in our country that are not going to be solved by a speech,
no matter how eloquent or passionately delivered."

In the restaurant's foyer, Ruben Beltran, 53, was carryng a "Culinary
Workers for Hillary" sign. He didn't know where it came from; someone
had given it to him.

Beltran said he was not worried about going against his union
leadership.

"People know that Hillary is the best choice for real," he said. "They
try to confuse the workers, but the workers are smarter."

.


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