On Feb 19, 3:03 am,

On Feb 18, 3:16 pm, "CitizenJimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 18, 4:54 pm, "abracadabra" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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There is a difference between true American Conservatives and un-
American Neocons.

It may be a matter of life and death to correctly ascertain that
difference.
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For educational purposes:
"February 15, 2007
EconomicTreasonSending Chrysler To Auto Graveyard
By Patrick J. Buchanan

I'd love to see one Democratic Presidential candidate pledge to get
rid of all laws that allow states to pass "Right to Work" laws. The
federal government has no business busting unionization, and
widespread unionization in the USA would put the brakes with all this
"free trade" *****.

Intriguing idea but it will have to come from a third party - I can't
see any democrat proposing it. The odd thing is that we are in one
of those situations where radical ideas - or ideas like this one
that might APPEAR radical to todays "thinking"
is the key to victory and would distinguish a REAL candidate
for president from the crowd of me-tooers.

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That's just it...
How were the policies of this country subverted to the point where the
de-industrialization and impoverishment of the US have become de-facto
US policy?

How could anyone believe that an annual 760 Billion dollar trade
deficit (and increasing annually) might be good for america?? It is
impossible.

And yet it is happening.
The industrial base and the economic policies that made the US supreme
from 1945 - 1985 have been purposefully dismantled. And a suicidal
raft of new-world-order changes have been given a free ride through
the last four administrations; Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II.

Traditional economic policies have been removed and replaced with
policies that are clearly destroying america. And the destructive
policies are now perceived as 'standard' - while the *successful*
previous policies are now viewed as 'radical'.

I can't figure out why the US public has allowed this subversion to
continue.
And I can't figure out why people seem too stupid to understand what
is happening in front of their eyes.

Even if they cannot understand macro-economics, they certainly should
be able to understand their pink-slips.

Buchanan's Article should be read by everyone.

Well I have no puzzlement on why and how it happened-
the three D's - doubletalk, distraction and disinformation
explains all:

Doubletalk by carefully shifting context,
touting anti-americanism as a boon to corporations
and "free trade" (sic) an our natural right to particapate
freely in "world" markets while quietly and openly
subverting the former Immigration and Naturalization Serivce
and opening the floodgates with a huge "WELCOME"
sign to 30 million newcomers (YES, I SAID 30 MILLION,
NOT THE OFFICAL FIGURES WHICH ARE MUCH LESS).
A corollary of this is that anyone who opposes
these ideas is depicted as an anti-patriotic
reactionary or "isolationist" who would hurt
the poor corporations from being able to compete.

Distraction -
like HOW THE HELL IS SOCIAL SECURITY
SYSTEM, ALREADY BROKEN, GOING TO
WORK WITH THE 30 MILLION NEWCOMERS
HERE??

Well, there was that National ID card that was tagged onto the end of a
defense apprpopriations bill by the representative from Wisconsin, a
democrat who knew the thing would have been rejected in a second if it
had been exposed to popular scrutiny.

Disinformation-

This, coupled with the popular surge of patriotism
after 9-11 which was EXPLOITED by the Bush administration
for their own ends, made the implementation of the
neo CON mens' agenda a piece of cake.

Well I have no puzzlement on why and how it happened-
the three D's - doubletalk, distraction and disinformation
explains all:

Doubletalk by carefully shifting context,
touting anti-americanism as a boon to corporations
and "free trade" (sic) an our natural right to particapate
freely in "world" markets while quietly and openly
subverting the former Immigration and Naturalization Serivce
and opening the floodgates with a huge "WELCOME"
sign to 30 million newcomers (YES, I SAID 30 MILLION,
NOT THE OFFICAL FIGURES WHICH ARE MUCH LESS).

A corollary of this is that anyone who opposes
these ideas is depicted as an anti-patriotic
reactionary or "isolationist" who would hurt
the poor corporations from being able to compete.

Distraction - whenever it appears that the public is
catching on to the charade that is being played
and is about to focus on real issues of fundamental
and immediate strategic import, the Roveian bureau
and many others like him go to work- SUDDENLY
its stem cell research, the right to have a cross
on city hall property or should we have the
word "god" in our pledge of allegiance that
become major issues thus cleverly distracting
people from far more important things
like HOW THE HELL IS SOCIAL SECURITY
SYSTEM, ALREADY BROKEN, GOING TO
WORK WITH THE 30 MILLION NEWCOMERS
HERE??

Take a good look at what
the congress prior to November 2006 accomplished -
not much eh? Well, there was that National ID
card that was tagged onto the end of a defense
apprpopriations bill by the representative from
Wisconsin, a democrat who knew the thing
would have been rejected in a second if it
had been exposed to popular scrutiny.

Disinformation- having a little trouble
finding out what's going on, eh?
Well you can thank outfits like MSNBC,
FOX news and many others.

First it
was weapons of mass destruction that
required us to go to war in Iraq, next it
was that if we did not stop the terrorists
there, they would somehow start
comming here and then the Bush adminstration
started to tell us, with a straight face
no less, that we were going to
send our fine men and women to Iraq
to die so that Iraq could be free
and could become a democracy.
The historians of the future are
going to shake their heads in amazement
at that one.

This is just several of the
endless streams of nonsense, half-truths,
outright lies, evasions and and syruppy
patriotic assurances the keep comming
from Mr. Snow and the Bush adminstration
and the Republicans and the Democrats.

This, coupled with the popular surge of patriotism
after 9-11 which was EXPLOITED by the Bush administration
for their own ends, made the implementation of the
neo CON mens' agenda a piece of cake.

Luckily for America, two major things happened
which inserted a fly the size of a rhinoceros into the
proverbial ointment. First, a crazy foreign policy,
to go along with the crazy
self destructive economic policy was implemented
leading directly and purposefully to the "war" in
Iraq - a war so central to the President's credibility
that he was willing to loose BOTH houses
of congress AND destroy the Republican party
for years to come in order to continue it.

Growing number of people began to question
not only the war and its pseudo-justifications
but then also question Bush's economic
policies and the unfortunate vapor
that underlies its "reasoning" too.

The complete ABSENCE of a viable
health care plan well into the Bush presidency
was exposed by no less than Arnold
Schwatzenegger causing the president
to quickly tout his "tax cut" for people
with health care plans and CONVENIENTLY
IGNORING THE NEARLY 40% of the country
that has none.

Likewise Bush's "No Child
Left Behind" nonsense does nothing to rectify
the fundamental premises of the vast social
warehousing experiment that constitutes
the bulk of American education except that
now, there is NO factory jobs and will be
no Army openings for the masses of
students prepared for such things
by our century old unmodified docility
training centers otherwise known as
the Public School system.

Secondly, one fine day the new arrivals to this
country decided to "demonstrate" in many
major American cities, some of them went
so far as to start carrying a Mexican flag
in the parades (though the organizers
soon put a stop to that) - and the newsmedia
had to report these events and the jig
was up - for the first time, though they
had had a growing vague suspicion that
the immigration was out of control for some
years,
the full extent of the problem became
known and understood to the majority
of Americans and so everyone began
to understand why our cities' roads were
falling apart, why hospitals emergency rooms
required a 1 or 2 hour wait, why schools
were falling appart, why cities infrastructures'
were collapsing as the outsourcing of jobs
of the middle class, combined with the influx
of new low wage earners triggered the most
massive federal, state and local fiscal crises
in the history of our great country, crises
which have not even begun to be resolved
as the full import of the neo "CON" men's
designs become easily and horrifyingly evident.

Citizen Jimserac
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