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User: "princeandy"
Date: 23 Aug 2006 02:27:30 AM
Object: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM
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PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO =
EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING =
LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" =
THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!=20
ALL YOU NEED TO REALLY STUFF THINGS UP - A WHACKO WHO THINKS HE IS A =
SIENTIST.
PROBABLY A DIRECT DESCENDANT FROM THE GUY WHO IMPORTED CANE TOADS .
CLIMACTIC CYCLES HAVE GONE ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND THERE IS =
SOLID PROOF OF THIS/.
IF THE WARMING TREND IS REALLY DUE TO EXHAUST FUMES WHY WHEN =
THEY WERE HOLLERING "A NEW ICE AGE IS COMING" 20 YEARS AGO DIDNT THEY =
SAY WE HAVE TO START RUNNING MORE CARS TO STOP THE ICE AGE?
=20
ITS ALL ***** AND IT IS ANOTHER WAY FOR THE ALMOST UNEMPLOYED =
ENVIRONMENTALISTS TO SCARE THE POLITICIANS SO THEY CAN COLLECT MORE OF =
YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY FROM THE CONGRESS TO FUND THE ENVIRONMENT CAUSES =
!!
DONT FALL FOR THE LIES THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT ITS GLOBAL =
WARMING, IT GETS A LITTLE WARMER FOR A FEW YEARS THEN IT SHIFTS BACK TO =
THE OTHER DIRECTION AND GETS COOLER.=20
ITS THE WAY IT HAS HAPPENED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! =20
TELL THE BOOGEY MAN FROM GREENPEACE YOU ARE ALL GROWN NOW AND =
YOU DONT BELIEVE HIS SCARE TACTICS ANYMORE .=20

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User: "grant"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 02:46:57 AM
princeandy wrote:

"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4.7367@trnddc01...
STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!


ALL YOU NEED TO REALLY STUFF THINGS UP - A WHACKO WHO THINKS HE IS A SIENTIST.

PROBABLY A DIRECT DESCENDANT FROM THE GUY WHO IMPORTED CANE TOADS .





CLIMACTIC CYCLES HAVE GONE ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND THERE IS SOLID PROOF OF THIS/.

IF THE WARMING TREND IS REALLY DUE TO EXHAUST FUMES WHY WHEN THEY WERE HOLLERING "A NEW ICE AGE IS COMING" 20 YEARS AGO DIDNT THEY SAY WE HAVE TO START RUNNING MORE CARS TO STOP THE ICE AGE?

ITS ALL ***** AND IT IS ANOTHER WAY FOR THE ALMOST UNEMPLOYED ENVIRONMENTALISTS TO SCARE THE POLITICIANS SO THEY CAN COLLECT MORE OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY FROM THE CONGRESS TO FUND THE ENVIRONMENT CAUSES !!
DONT FALL FOR THE LIES THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT ITS GLOBAL WARMING, IT GETS A LITTLE WARMER FOR A FEW YEARS THEN IT SHIFTS BACK TO THE OTHER DIRECTION AND GETS COOLER.
ITS THE WAY IT HAS HAPPENED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!
TELL THE BOOGEY MAN FROM GREENPEACE YOU ARE ALL GROWN NOW AND YOU DONT BELIEVE HIS SCARE TACTICS ANYMORE .

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<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS&nbsp;FROM THE
PAST UNEARTHED&nbsp;SHOW PATTERNS&nbsp; OF WARMING THEN COOLING&nbsp; FOR
THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS&nbsp; KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A
SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE&nbsp;"THE SKY IS
FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN&nbsp;LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING
NEW IS GOING ON!!&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>ALL YOU NEED TO REALLY STUFF THINGS UP - A WHACKO WHO THINKS HE
IS A SIENTIST.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>PROBABLY A DIRECT DESCENDANT FROM THE GUY WHO IMPORTED CANE TOADS
.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CLIMACTIC CYCLES HAVE&nbsp; GONE ON FOR
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND THERE IS SOLID PROOF OF THIS/.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF THE WARMING TREND&nbsp;IS
REALLY&nbsp;DUE TO EXHAUST FUMES&nbsp; WHY WHEN THEY WERE HOLLERING "A NEW ICE
AGE&nbsp; IS COMING" 20 YEARS AGO DIDNT THEY SAY WE HAVE TO START RUNNING MORE
CARS TO STOP THE ICE AGE?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ITS ALL ***** AND IT IS ANOTHER WAY
FOR THE ALMOST UNEMPLOYED&nbsp;ENVIRONMENTALISTS&nbsp; TO SCARE THE
POLITICIANS SO THEY CAN&nbsp;COLLECT MORE OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY FROM THE
CONGRESS TO FUND THE ENVIRONMENT CAUSES &nbsp;!!</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;DONT FALL FOR THE LIES THEY ARE
TELLING YOU THAT ITS GLOBAL WARMING, IT GETS A LITTLE WARMER FOR A FEW YEARS
THEN IT SHIFTS BACK TO THE OTHER&nbsp;DIRECTION AND GETS COOLER.
</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp; ITS THE WAY&nbsp;IT HAS HAPPENED FOR THOUSANDS OF
YEARS!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;TELL THE BOOGEY MAN FROM
GREENPEACE&nbsp;YOU ARE ALL GROWN NOW AND YOU DONT BELIEVE HIS SCARE TACTICS
ANYMORE&nbsp;.&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
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Here's a little hint for you dandy Andy. STOP FUCKIN SHOUTING! And
people may read you.
grant.
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User: "Fred Oinka"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 09:12:26 PM

princeandy wrote:

<crap>
If it weren't for Rush Limbaugh, these people would just sit and stare
into space.
Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 24 Aug 2006 11:30:07 PM
Fred Oinka wrote:

princeandy wrote:


<crap>
If it weren't for Rush Limbaugh, these people would just sit and stare
into space.

That is; "their" messiah Rush Limbaugh.

Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

Naturally. Where else can right wing CONservatives go for their
"advanced studies"?
The staring into space is what they call "medicating"... Most normal
folks "meditate". By medicating, conservatives associate this activity
with "freeing their mind" because this is something they as highly
theraputic and essential for their normal brain function.
.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 25 Aug 2006 12:07:30 AM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.
Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply? I wonder if those folks
have a life? Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their
links?
heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....
.
User: "Fred Fazemeier"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 26 Aug 2006 09:27:08 PM
"bob9" <b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O4SdnZRJbuoNGHPZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...


"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count

the

gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what

ever

loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply? I wonder if those folks
have a life? Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their
links?

heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....

You are describing the neocons to a "T". The difference is, the lefties are
contradicting or completing the half-truths bleated by the Limbaugh sheep.
The truth has now been told and the dumbasses can't refute what is being
said, therefore, no replies. The "hit and run" posts by those on your side
of the aisle are most notable, especially the drivel by the multi-sock
"TNT". Your cause and effect are backward, as is your assessment of the
planet.
.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 26 Aug 2006 10:38:18 PM
"Fred Fazemeier" <fredfaze@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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"bob9" <b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count

the

gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what

ever

loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply? I wonder if those folks
have a life? Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their
links?

heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


You are describing the neocons to a "T". The difference is, the lefties
are
contradicting or completing the half-truths bleated by the Limbaugh sheep.
The truth has now been told and the dumbasses can't refute what is being
said, therefore, no replies. The "hit and run" posts by those on your side
of the aisle are most notable, especially the drivel by the multi-sock
"TNT". Your cause and effect are backward, as is your assessment of the
planet.

Yes, and in your infinite wisdom, you listen to Dean, Sharpton, Moore,
Sheehan, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Jackson, and Waters.
Now that is sad..
.
User: "Fred Fazemeier"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 28 Aug 2006 04:39:43 PM
"bob9" <b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Fred Fazemeier" <fredfaze@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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"bob9" <b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count

the

gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what

ever

loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply? I wonder if those

folks

have a life? Or do they really believe others are actually clicking

their

links?

heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


You are describing the neocons to a "T". The difference is, the lefties
are
contradicting or completing the half-truths bleated by the Limbaugh

sheep.

The truth has now been told and the dumbasses can't refute what is being
said, therefore, no replies. The "hit and run" posts by those on your

side

of the aisle are most notable, especially the drivel by the multi-sock
"TNT". Your cause and effect are backward, as is your assessment of the
planet.


Yes, and in your infinite wisdom, you listen to Dean, Sharpton, Moore,
Sheehan, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Jackson, and Waters.

Now that is sad..

That is a bizarre assumption on your part, as you have no proof or even any
logical basis for that conclusion.
Even if it were true, any of those mentioned would be infinitely better than
Limbaugh and/or Hannity, who have been proven to be liars again and again.
.

User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 05:56:50 AM
bob9 wrote:

"Fred Fazemeier" <fredfaze@prodigy.net> wrote in message

I don't listen to any of the below idiots...this is why YOU should
never assume and stereotype.

Yes, and in your infinite wisdom, you listen to Dean, Sharpton, Moore,
Sheehan, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Jackson, and Waters.

Now that is sad..

.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 10:51:29 AM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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bob9 wrote:

"Fred Fazemeier" <fredfaze@prodigy.net> wrote in message



I don't listen to any of the below idiots...this is why YOU should
never assume and stereotype.

Ah yes, but it's perfectly okay for YOU to assume and sterotype?
[read your prior 'comments']
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 03:40:02 PM
Hey...you tossed the first barb.
bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156676210.042969.148220@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...


bob9 wrote:

"Fred Fazemeier" <fredfaze@prodigy.net> wrote in message



I don't listen to any of the below idiots...this is why YOU should
never assume and stereotype.


Ah yes, but it's perfectly okay for YOU to assume and sterotype?
[read your prior 'comments']

.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 06:47:14 PM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156711201.960998.207760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

Hey...you tossed the first barb.

It's a moot point, and who cares, but for the record, I was replying to your
previous 'barbs'

If it weren't for Rush Limbaugh, these people would just sit and stare
into space.

That is; "their" messiah Rush Limbaugh.
it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.
Naturally. Where else can right wing CONservatives go for their
"advanced studies"?
The staring into space is what they call "medicating"... Most normal
folks "meditate". By medicating, conservatives associate this activity
with "freeing their mind" because this is something they as highly
theraputic and essential for their normal brain function.
.






User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 25 Aug 2006 05:21:05 PM
bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply?

Truth always hurts...

I wonder if those folks have a life?

As a matter of fact they do.

Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their links?

Not really. Academically speaking, submitting sources is just an act
of good faith on the part of moderates...it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.

heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....

....Please....get a grip
.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 25 Aug 2006 09:14:47 PM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
news:1156544465.070489.266140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count
the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what
ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply?


Truth always hurts...

I wonder if those folks have a life?


As a matter of fact they do.

Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their links?


Not really. Academically speaking, submitting sources is just an act
of good faith on the part of moderates...it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.





heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


...Please....get a grip

Yes, it is rather sad...but also a good laugh.
Libs do take themselves very seriously. That's why it's so much fun to read
their dribble.
.
User: "Fred Fazemeier"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 26 Aug 2006 09:30:07 PM
"bob9" <b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count
the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what
ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply?


Truth always hurts...

I wonder if those folks have a life?


As a matter of fact they do.

Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their links?


Not really. Academically speaking, submitting sources is just an act
of good faith on the part of moderates...it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.





heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


...Please....get a grip


Yes, it is rather sad...but also a good laugh.
Libs do take themselves very seriously. That's why it's so much fun to

read

their dribble.

The word is DRIVEL, you illiterate jerkoff! Maybe this is why no one takes
the neocons seriously, but the humor is too tragic to be able to laugh it
off.
.

User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 26 Aug 2006 06:39:02 AM
bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
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Instead they post his shows daily drivel on Usenet, then sit and stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and count
the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what
ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply?


Truth always hurts...

I wonder if those folks have a life?


As a matter of fact they do.

Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their links?


Not really. Academically speaking, submitting sources is just an act
of good faith on the part of moderates...it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.





heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


...Please....get a grip


Yes, it is rather sad...but also a good laugh.
Libs do take themselves very seriously. That's why it's so much fun to read
their dribble.

But "dribble" with substance. What do the Cons justify they
dichotomies on? Mindless "dribble" from other Cons...hence, blind
leading the blind. This, of course, is conducive to even greater
entertainment--especially if they are challenged even in the least
thought provoking context.
.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 26 Aug 2006 07:31:05 PM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
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bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in
message
news:1156480207.486983.253320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Instead they post his shows daily drivel on Usenet, then sit and
stare
into space.

I love this one. Care to scroll up over this [or most any] NG and
count
the
gigantic number of liberal's posting links to articles supporting what
ever
loony thing they can find. Three particular posters are obvious, one
after
another after another, sometimes a dozen at once.

Note also how few times anyone bothers to reply?


Truth always hurts...

I wonder if those folks have a life?


As a matter of fact they do.

Or do they really believe others are actually clicking their links?


Not really. Academically speaking, submitting sources is just an act
of good faith on the part of moderates...it is a fairly well known fact
that reading is not one of conservatives' stronger points...hence they
state into space when asked to substantiate their denials with facts.





heh---as they stare at the screen....hoping to connect...sad....


...Please....get a grip


Yes, it is rather sad...but also a good laugh.
Libs do take themselves very seriously. That's why it's so much fun to
read
their dribble.


But "dribble" with substance. What do the Cons justify they
dichotomies on? Mindless "dribble" from other Cons...hence, blind
leading the blind. This, of course, is conducive to even greater
entertainment--especially if they are challenged even in the least
thought provoking context.

This is the "thought provoking context" from the lib spokes-leaders like:
Dean, Sharpton, Moore, Sheehan, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Jackson, and Waters?
Not to mention the Holly'd loonies? Have you listened to these folks? These
are your leaders?
Heh, thanks, but us moderates prefer the middle ground, which is not
necessarily the conservative view, but certainly closer to reality and
sanity.
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 06:27:59 AM
bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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bob9 wrote:


This is the "thought provoking context" from the lib spokes-leaders like:
Dean, Sharpton, Moore, Sheehan, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Jackson, and Waters?
Not to mention the Holly'd loonies? Have you listened to these folks? These
are your leaders?

See post that follows


Heh, thanks, but us moderates prefer the middle ground, which is not
necessarily the conservative view, but certainly closer to reality and
sanity.

You sure you aren't a conservative?
All "serious" posts I've made on this group and others should tell you
I am as moderate and center as one gets. Hey...*I've leveled criticism
on both parties. Moreover, there is no stronger advocate for a 3rd
party than me seeing there won't be anything the cons and dems will
ever agree on. Do you want to know WHY this country is on its way out?
Take a good long look at this country's mainstream politics. You are
talking polarity to the order of 180 degrees. We can't agree on
anything and there is little that can rightfully be compromised without
making the sum of the parts lesser than the whole.
.
User: "bob9"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 11:05:36 AM
"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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You sure you aren't a conservative?

I voted for LBJ, Carter, Clinton, other dems [and California's Feinstein,
but not Boxer]
As a 20 year old, I missed voting for JFK by one month, but walked the
streets for his campaign and deluged the neighborhood with flyers and
buttons [wish I'd kept some of those]
I support Woman's Rights, Gay rights [but not ultra-rights] enhance Health
Care, and any number of liberal issues.
But I do NOT support the "hate Bush" vendetta as a blanket denial of the war
on terrorism, which the libs/dems seem to totally ignore. Or pretend it's
merely a Bush issue. As a retired airline employee, I've spent years in Arab
countries, and many of these people want us dead! No negotiations will ever
work.
I also support Israel for the same reason, and am sickened how the libs see
them as an enemy.

Do you want to know WHY this country is on its way out?
Take a good long look at this country's mainstream politics.

Agreed! But please see above. I voted for Bush and he's been a HUGE
disappointment to me and others. But, the libs hatred for anything related
to Bush has turned them totally blind to the evils we face.
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 28 Aug 2006 07:57:37 AM
bob9 wrote:

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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You sure you aren't a conservative?


I voted for LBJ, Carter, Clinton, other dems [and California's Feinstein,
but not Boxer]

I liked Carter, not a good politician (guppy in a tankful of sharks)
but he a a great human being first...politician second. Clinton was
hard to peg in the beginning, but it wasn't hard to see where he was
going soon thereafter. Good politician; rotten economist.

As a 20 year old, I missed voting for JFK by one month, but walked the
streets for his campaign and deluged the neighborhood with flyers and
buttons [wish I'd kept some of those]

I liked JFK a lot. You don't see leaders like him anymore. Granted
the Bay of Pigs will be a smudge on his resume, but looking at the
bigger picture, he is without doubt a tough act that hasn't been
followed since. It was sad to see him go in the way he did. :(

I support Woman's Rights, Gay rights [but not ultra-rights] enhance Health
Care, and any number of liberal issues.

I support women's rights. Gay marriage is a non-issue to me. Marriage
is a sacrament that ties more to religion than the state. Hence, it is
their baby. So far as civil unions go, the state has some latitude on
that note. Personally I hold no opinion. That is something for
society to decide at the polls.


But I do NOT support the "hate Bush" vendetta as a blanket denial of the war
on terrorism, which the libs/dems seem to totally ignore. Or pretend it's
merely a Bush issue.

Bush is taking the rap for a lot of irrelevant ***** that is going down.
On the same token, he is not very bright, surrounds himself with
people who are as dumb (or dumber) than he is, and has no sense of
urgency when it comes to domestic issues. I.e. controlling the borders
and illegal immigrants, disaster preparedness, etc...
As a retired airline employee, I've spent years in Arab

countries, and many of these people want us dead! No negotiations will ever
work.

Absolutely. Excluding the Muslim populations in this country, 97% of
the people in this country have no clue whatsoever what Islam is
about--or its ambitions.

I also support Israel for the same reason, and am sickened how the libs see
them as an enemy.

You, my friend, just laid out a mine field.
I can see the concerns for Israel--and they should be protected. What
people see is Israeli aggression when they are totally oblivious to the
concept that sometimes your only defense is a highly visible, and
always a fatal offense. It is a frustration and enigma that will not
go away for as long as there is a demand for their oil. No demand for
their oil, the rug gets pulled out from their one product economy,
heaven forbid, they will have to do something for work. It seems odd
that that region has a history of that--even all the way back to the
days of Sodom and Gomorrah and their salt trade. I think the
influential people there have too much time on their hands and
excessive delusions of grandeur.


Do you want to know WHY this country is on its way out?
Take a good long look at this country's mainstream politics.


Agreed! But please see above. I voted for Bush and he's been a HUGE
disappointment to me and others. But, the libs hatred for anything related
to Bush has turned them totally blind to the evils we face.

Yeah. I think much of the hate is driven by a totally blind or, at
best, a misguided consensus on the part of the far left libs. They
lost the election twice and they are still pissed. On a far more
alarming note, it is obvious that they have lived the "good", free life
(perhaps a little too long) and have completely lost sight of what it
took to make it happen in the first place. There was and still is a
dire need to confront the Islamofascist movement and the sooner the
better. It is not going away and the longer we turn a blind eye to it
the bigger it will get and the more difficult (and bloody) it will
become to defeat. People today don't seem to grasp the history of this
ongoing nemesis headache. Don't get me wrong, I hate this war, but I
do support it. I just wish there was leadership in place that could
better manage the logistics and have a better grasp on the mechanics
behind the insurgency and crush it so that the Iraqis can get on with
their lives and we can get the ***** out of there.
.










User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 03:45:45 AM
grant wrote:

princeandy wrote:

"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4.7367@trnddc01...
STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!

Me, I'd rather drive an electric car that gets the equivalent of 150
mpg, instead of a gas-guzzler at around 17 mpg.
Me, I'd rather live in a city with clean air from electric cars, than
one choked with sut from fossel fuel engines.
Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war and die in a foreign land
to protect 'oil' when we can use alternatives that work just as well.
Just look past your 'global warming' argument, and realize you are a
tool of big oil, and get over it.
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 07:55:22 AM
PagCal wrote:

grant wrote:

princeandy wrote:

"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4.7367@trnddc01...
STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!


Me, I'd rather drive an electric car that gets the equivalent of 150
mpg, instead of a gas-guzzler at around 17 mpg.

Me, I'd rather live in a city with clean air from electric cars, than
one choked with sut from fossel fuel engines.

Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war and die in a foreign land
to protect 'oil' when we can use alternatives that work just as well.

Just look past your 'global warming' argument, and realize you are a
tool of big oil, and get over it.

How much do you want to bet that the original poster doesn't have a
clue that 1 gallon of gasoline produces 26 pounds of CO2? At 20
million gallons of gas every day, that equates to 5.2 x 10^8 lbs of
CO2 every day or 1.9 x 10^11 lbs a year. But that is just
transportation the U.S. What about the gasoline consumption throughout
the rest of the world? What about those very countries who have no
emissions regulations or standards? And this doesn't even factor in
plants that use fossil fuel to generate electricity.
But it is not solely anthropogenic CO2 causing climate warming. It may
have initiated this current climate warming and maintained its momentum
until other factors came into play. For the record, we can stop ALL
CO2 emissions today, it will hardly make a difference. Want some
advice? Your efforts would be better spent figuring out how to
surviving the global sauna than trying to stop it. This is something
we should have took action with some 40 years ago, not now.
Another thing to consider, 1/2 of all the anthropogenic CO2 we produced
is not in the atmosphere...it's in our oceans as carbonic acid which is
taking a huge toll on coral reefs around the world. It's not bad
enough that we have to ***** up our habitat, he have to screw up our
oceans as well.
.
User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 09:05:18 PM
Igor The Terrible wrote:

PagCal wrote:

grant wrote:

princeandy wrote:


"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4.7367@trnddc01...
STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!


Me, I'd rather drive an electric car that gets the equivalent of 150
mpg, instead of a gas-guzzler at around 17 mpg.

Me, I'd rather live in a city with clean air from electric cars, than
one choked with sut from fossel fuel engines.

Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war and die in a foreign land
to protect 'oil' when we can use alternatives that work just as well.

Just look past your 'global warming' argument, and realize you are a
tool of big oil, and get over it.




How much do you want to bet that the original poster doesn't have a
clue that 1 gallon of gasoline produces 26 pounds of CO2? At 20
million gallons of gas every day, that equates to 5.2 x 10^8 lbs of
CO2 every day or 1.9 x 10^11 lbs a year. But that is just
transportation the U.S. What about the gasoline consumption throughout
the rest of the world? What about those very countries who have no
emissions regulations or standards? And this doesn't even factor in
plants that use fossil fuel to generate electricity.

But it is not solely anthropogenic CO2 causing climate warming. It may
have initiated this current climate warming and maintained its momentum
until other factors came into play. For the record, we can stop ALL
CO2 emissions today, it will hardly make a difference. Want some
advice? Your efforts would be better spent figuring out how to
surviving the global sauna than trying to stop it. This is something
we should have took action with some 40 years ago, not now.

Move to Canada, and buy something well above sea level. What's left of
the US with be underwater, or a dust bowl.
And switching diet would be a good idea; dump beef and get into plant
matter. (Not a bad idea anyway, as the American 'diet' kills humans).

Another thing to consider, 1/2 of all the anthropogenic CO2 we produced
is not in the atmosphere...it's in our oceans as carbonic acid which is
taking a huge toll on coral reefs around the world. It's not bad
enough that we have to ***** up our habitat, he have to screw up our
oceans as well.

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.
.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 24 Aug 2006 07:50:59 AM

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.

"Extra" CO2??? Quite an interesting quantitative assessment. I see
science is no friend of yours. Seems to be an extraordinarily common
trait among conservatives.
Please disclose a physical description giving details on how CO2 is not
harming our oceans--our planet's single biggest carbon sink.
The scientific community is anxiously awaiting your earth-shattering
revelation.
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/document.asp?id=3249
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=169
http://www.conservationinstitute.org/ocean_change/ocean_pollution/ocean_acidification.htm
http://www.net.org/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=29088
http://ioc.unesco.org/ioccp/HighCO2/HighCO2World.htm
Igor
Pascal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Pascal wrote:

grant wrote:

.
User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 25 Aug 2006 01:19:37 AM
Igor The Terrible wrote:

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.




"Extra" CO2??? Quite an interesting quantitative assessment. I see
science is no friend of yours. Seems to be an extraordinarily common
trait among conservatives.

Please disclose a physical description giving details on how CO2 is not
harming our oceans--our planet's single biggest carbon sink.

The scientific community is anxiously awaiting your earth-shattering
revelation.

CO2 lowers PH (acidify), which kills corals, among other things.






http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/document.asp?id=3249

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=169

http://www.conservationinstitute.org/ocean_change/ocean_pollution/ocean_acidification.htm

http://www.net.org/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=29088

http://ioc.unesco.org/ioccp/HighCO2/HighCO2World.htm




Igor




Pascal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Pascal wrote:


grant wrote:



.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 06:36:30 AM
PagCal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.




"Extra" CO2??? Quite an interesting quantitative assessment. I see
science is no friend of yours. Seems to be an extraordinarily common
trait among conservatives.

Please disclose a physical description giving details on how CO2 is not
harming our oceans--our planet's single biggest carbon sink.

The scientific community is anxiously awaiting your earth-shattering
revelation.


CO2 lowers PH (acidify), which kills corals, among other things.

Very good! These organisms are also at the lower end of the food
chain which will disrupt immediate ecosystems.
Here's one for you. How do we know this CO2 is from human activity?
Hint: isotopic signature, specifically C14
.
User: "The PretZel"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 12:35:02 PM
On 2006-08-27 04:36:30 -0700, "Igor The Terrible"
<igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> said:


PagCal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.




"Extra" CO2??? Quite an interesting quantitative assessment. I see
science is no friend of yours. Seems to be an extraordinarily common
trait among conservatives.

Please disclose a physical description giving details on how CO2 is not
harming our oceans--our planet's single biggest carbon sink.

The scientific community is anxiously awaiting your earth-shattering
revelation.


CO2 lowers PH (acidify), which kills corals, among other things.


Very good! These organisms are also at the lower end of the food
chain which will disrupt immediate ecosystems.

Here's one for you. How do we know this CO2 is from human activity?
Hint: isotopic signature, specifically C14

C-mon. It's not so bad.
We've been enjoying soft beverages for decades. Let the tiny 'lil sea
creatures have a "sip" of soda-pop as well...
--
The PREMIER of "An Evening With a Rightard" Part one!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp4o_eHOKF8
.
User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 03:31:43 PM
The PretZel wrote:

On 2006-08-27 04:36:30 -0700, "Igor The Terrible"
<igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> said:


PagCal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.





"Extra" CO2??? Quite an interesting quantitative assessment. I see
science is no friend of yours. Seems to be an extraordinarily common
trait among conservatives.

Please disclose a physical description giving details on how CO2 is not
harming our oceans--our planet's single biggest carbon sink.

The scientific community is anxiously awaiting your earth-shattering
revelation.


CO2 lowers PH (acidify), which kills corals, among other things.


Very good! These organisms are also at the lower end of the food
chain which will disrupt immediate ecosystems.

Here's one for you. How do we know this CO2 is from human activity?
Hint: isotopic signature, specifically C14



C-mon. It's not so bad.
We've been enjoying soft beverages for decades. Let the tiny 'lil sea
creatures have a "sip" of soda-pop as well...

1. Lower PH kills coral that protects land where we live. No coral, then
the storms come in and kill us.
2. Dead zones are starting to appear in the oceans. Many rely on food
from the oceans, and if we kill off everything in the sea, we'll die.
3. Salt marshes and deltas are disapearing. Same overall effect as #1.


.
User: "Igor The Terrible"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 27 Aug 2006 04:29:30 PM
Pascal wrote:

The Pretzel wrote:

On 2006-08-27 04:36:30 -0700, "Igor The Terrible"
<igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> said:


Pascal wrote:

Igor The Terrible wrote:

Yea, the extra CO2 is killing ocean life as well.

Here's one for you. How do we know this CO2 is from human activity?
Hint: isotopic signature, specifically C14


1. Lower PH kills coral that protects land where we live. No coral, then
the storms come in and kill us.

2. Dead zones are starting to appear in the oceans. Many rely on food
from the oceans, and if we kill off everything in the sea, we'll die.

3. Salt marshes and deltas are disappearing. Same overall effect as #1.


Exactly. Go to the head of the class.
You didn't answer the question on how do we distinguish the difference
between CO2 that occurs naturally (burning forests) and that which
occurs from human activity (anthropogenic). But that's OK.
When trees and other forms of plant life burn, when taking samples
there is presence of C14 isotopes a.k.a. radio carbon 14 along with the
C12. However, when fossil fuels burn there is virtually no C14
present, for all intents and purposes, none.
You see.........you learned something. Congrats! You know something
that roughly 95% of Americans do not know. So the next time you hear a
tree hugger going off on a rant proclaiming CO2 is the culprit behind
global warming, you can challenge him and his nonsense.
Truth is, at 3000 meters and at 50% humidity, you can double the amount
of the present CO2 and you will not increase radiative forcing by even
1%.
Moreover gases like methane and aerosols have a much greater greenhouse
effect than CO2. Water vapor in itself is a powerful greenhouse
component.
And yes "FOR NOW" climate warming IS responsible for a late and less
active hurricane season. Why? When you have longer summers and
shorter winters in the arctic regions, the ice sheets are melting
longer and at a faster rate. The resulting cold water has to go
somewhere. In the case of the Atlantic basin, the surplus of cold
water along with the seasonal Labrador currents flowing southward have
left the Atlantic considerably cooler than last year. However, as the
cold water has tempered and cooler temperatures are setting in further
north the thaw slows and the currents begin to subside. As the
Atlantic temperatures begin to increase so does the the tropical
activity. There are other factors involved in hindering their
development such as the shearing effects of upper level low pressure
systems, but, the SSTs play a major role in allowing tropical systems
to develop.
Now when the polar ice is finally gone...the dynamics of our oceans
currents will again change which in turn will greatly affect our
weather patterns as well--and I really can't say for the better. I
really feel sorry for the poor bastards being born today. If they only
knew what's on the road ahead..
.








User: "Grendel"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 23 Aug 2006 08:24:39 AM
PagCal wrote:

grant wrote:

princeandy wrote:

"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4.7367@trnddc01...
STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PATTERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRONMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEGIN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!


Me, I'd rather drive an electric car that gets the equivalent of 150
mpg, instead of a gas-guzzler at around 17 mpg.

Me, I'd rather have the convenience of a high torque V-8. It's a
proven, reliable piece of engineering, it can 're-charge' in the
time it takes to refill a gas tank (<3 minutes) and can do everything I
need it to.
Your 'lectric vehicle, on the other hand, has limited range, limited
torque (thus limited capacity) and can recharge in a measly six HOURS.
And, it also pollutes (until such time as the entire power grid is
powered by Nuclear, wind or solar power). Just because the pollution
may be one step removed from you does not you are not responsible (and,
for a coal fired plant, the amount of particulates put in the air to
recharge an electric vehicle is MORE than if you just drove a gas
powered vehicle the same distance).

Me, I'd rather live in a city with clean air from electric cars, than
one choked with sut from fossel fuel engines.

Me, I'd rather not live in a city at all. Which I don't.
Still under that 'lectric cars don't polute' misconception, I see.
(what IS 'sut', anyway).

Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war and die in a foreign land
to protect 'oil' when we can use alternatives that work just as well.

Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war at all. But I'd rather
them take pride in protecting their country and their fellow countrymen
than give up and submit to an enemy that want's America destroyed.

Just look past your 'global warming' argument, and realize you are a
tool of big oil, and get over it.

While I don't agree with his tactics, the fact that the Climate has
been warming for well over 10,000 years (and the glaciers have been
retreating for the last ~17,000 years) kinda puts a damper in your
claim that George Bush and SUV's are to blame.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"We're amused by you libs and dims. It's kinda like watching the
chimps at the zoo. You know there's a limited amount of intelligence
there, they're cute and they're fun to watch, but you know they'll
never quite make evolutionary leap."
.
User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A PHONY CLAIM 25 Aug 2006 12:52:17 AM
Grendel a =E9crit :

PagCal wrote:

grant wrote:

princeandy wrote:

"al walker" <alwalker7@yahoo.co> wrote in message news:nuRGg.9828$St4=

..7367@trnddc01...

STUDIES OF CLIMATIC CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST UNEARTHED SHOW PAT=

TERNS OF WARMING THEN COOLING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS YET THE WHACKO EVIRO=
NMENTISTS KNOW THEY CAN SCARE A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC BY HOLLERING LOUDLY =
LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE "THE SKY IS FALLING" "THE SKY IS FALLING" THEN THEY BEG=
IN LOOKING UP LIKE SOMETHING NEW IS GOING ON!!



Me, I'd rather drive an electric car that gets the equivalent of 150
mpg, instead of a gas-guzzler at around 17 mpg.


Me, I'd rather have the convenience of a high torque V-8. It's a
proven, reliable piece of engineering, it can 're-charge' in the
time it takes to refill a gas tank (<3 minutes) and can do everything I
need it to.

Your 'lectric vehicle, on the other hand, has limited range, limited
torque (thus limited capacity) and can recharge in a measly six HOURS.

Well, ever heard of improvement? Compare a tv set from 50 years ago and
one from today...

And, it also pollutes (until such time as the entire power grid is
powered by Nuclear, wind or solar power). Just because the pollution
may be one step removed from you does not you are not responsible (and,
for a coal fired plant, the amount of particulates put in the air to
recharge an electric vehicle is MORE than if you just drove a gas
powered vehicle the same distance).

Me, I'd rather live in a city with clean air from electric cars, than
one choked with sut from fossel fuel engines.


Me, I'd rather not live in a city at all. Which I don't.

Still under that 'lectric cars don't polute' misconception, I see.
(what IS 'sut', anyway).

Well, it sure pollutes less than gasoline cars...

Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war and die in a foreign land
to protect 'oil' when we can use alternatives that work just as well.


Me, I'd rather not have my kids go off to war at all. But I'd rather
them take pride in protecting their country and their fellow countrymen
than give up and submit to an enemy that want's America destroyed.

Please tell us in which was Iraq was a threat to the USA...
.





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