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User: "Barbara Walker"
Date: 08 Sep 2003 06:16:27 PM
Object: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America?
"Droopus" <droopus714@netscape.net> wrote in message
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S. money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq, anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.

Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.
.

User: "John Slade"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 09 Sep 2003 04:36:24 AM
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said

Sunday

that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S.

money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated

Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq,

anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.



Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED

the

federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.


As "Eric Salmassy" <eric3105@yahoo.com> so already so astutely pointed

out

and wrote to you in message

news:Xns93F0746D39439esalmassy@216.168.3.44...

Clinton actually DECREASED the debt while he was in office.



Nope, so here's the numbers for you again:

The Clinton debt to the penny:

09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm


Those numbers only tell half the story. Clinton eliminated deficit
spending and so every year after that the increase was interest. Clinton
eliminated the deficit and your national debt numbers can't change that. You
try and confuse people with the debt rather than deficit because I already
made you look like a fool when you claimed Clinton never eliminated the
deficit. Clinton was actually going to pay on the debt but the republicans
didn't want that.
John
.

User: "John Slade"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 09 Sep 2003 04:26:10 AM
"Barbara Walker" <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> wrote in message
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday

that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S.

money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated

Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq, anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.



Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.


Clinton did not increase the debt. The debt from Reagan and Bush was
increasing because of the interest. Clinton eliminated deficits in his terms
so it would be impossible for him to increase the dept through deficit
spending, there was none after he eliminated it. This is not a speculation
or cooking books it's a historical fact and the republicans tried to take
credit for it. You are one of the select few fools who doesn't know Clinton
eliminated deficit spending.
John
.
User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 09 Sep 2003 05:56:03 AM
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday

that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S.

money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated

Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq, anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.



Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.



Clinton did not increase the debt. The debt from Reagan and Bush

was

increasing because of the interest. Clinton eliminated deficits in his

terms

so it would be impossible for him to increase the dept through deficit
spending, there was none after he eliminated it. This is not a speculation
or cooking books it's a historical fact and the republicans tried to take
credit for it. You are one of the select few fools who doesn't know

Clinton

eliminated deficit spending.

John

Barbara/Rene/SteamRoller/Insert Occupant has not even read the links he
provides.......



.
User: "Barbara Walker"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 09 Sep 2003 06:20:24 AM
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said

Sunday

that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S.

money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated

Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq,

anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.



Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED

the

federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.



Clinton did not increase the debt. The debt from Reagan and Bush

was

increasing because of the interest. Clinton eliminated deficits in his

terms

so it would be impossible for him to increase the dept through deficit
spending, there was none after he eliminated it. This is not a

speculation

or cooking books it's a historical fact and the republicans tried to

take

credit for it. You are one of the select few fools who doesn't know

Clinton

eliminated deficit spending.

John

The Clinton debt to the penny:
09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
.



User: "JoettaB"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 08 Sep 2003 07:03:28 PM
"Barbara Walker" <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> wrote in message
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In article <PlP6b.383310$YN5.255443@sccrnsc01>, "enceladus"

<enceladus@saturn.net> wrote:

Bush: More Funds Needed for Iraq Mission
37 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday

that

there

are challenges ahead in the war on terrorism and that more U.S.

money

will

be needed to sustain U.S. troops in Iraq (news - web sites) and

rebuild

the

shattered nation. Two congressional sources told The Associated

Press

he

will ask Congress for $87 billion for the upcoming fiscal year.


Comes to about $3600 for every man woman and child in Iraq, anyone

know

the

actual average income there?



Have you calculated what it came out to during the Clinton Years?



Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.



Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.


.

User: "Spammeister"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 08 Sep 2003 07:51:20 PM
Barbara Walker wrote:


As "Eric Salmassy" <eric3105@yahoo.com> so already so astutely pointed out
and wrote to you in message news:Xns93F0746D39439esalmassy@216.168.3.44...
Clinton actually DECREASED the debt while he was in office.


Nope, so here's the numbers for you again:

The Clinton debt to the penny:

09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

But Babs, you're mixing intergovernmental and public debt. Clinton
clearly paid off some of the public debt.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm
--
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User: "Spammeister"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 09 Sep 2003 10:11:57 PM
Barbara Walker wrote:

Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.


Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.

Clinton did pay down some of the public debt. You include
intergovernmental debt to mask this fact.
09/30/2002 3,553,180,247,874.74
09/28/2001 3,339,310,176,094.74
09/29/2000 3,405,303,490,221.20
09/30/1999 3,636,104,594,501.81
09/30/1998 3,733,864,472,163.53
09/30/1997 3,789,667,546,849.60
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm
--
"Stupidity's the deliberate cultivation of ignorance."
-- William Gladdis
Tired of junk email??? Fight back! Visit http://www.craigbanks.us.
.
User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 11 Sep 2003 05:05:33 AM
"Spammeister" <gotoreplyto@below.net> wrote in message
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Barbara Walker wrote:


Yup. Median income during 1992-2000 was about $37,000 a year. It's
less now.


Yet the federal debt is higher now, thanks to Clinton, who INCREASED the
federal debt EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE WAS IN OFFICE.


Clinton did pay down some of the public debt. You include
intergovernmental debt to mask this fact.

09/30/2002 3,553,180,247,874.74
09/28/2001 3,339,310,176,094.74
09/29/2000 3,405,303,490,221.20
09/30/1999 3,636,104,594,501.81
09/30/1998 3,733,864,472,163.53
09/30/1997 3,789,667,546,849.60

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm


--
Barbara/Rene/Marie/Steamroller continues to use the same link EVEN though

it has been made clear exactly what the figures represent - debt which
includes debt held by the public as well as intragovernmental holdings. It's
rather embarrassing for the poor dear..........those Bush coloured glasses
must have severe cracks in them by now....
.


User: "skyliq"

Title: Re: Hey Chump Democrats.....Can You Spare the Time to Protect America? 08 Sep 2003 07:27:58 PM
That's public consumer debt you DOLT. Put away your maxed-out credit card.
That's what it refers to.
Are you that....How can I put it plainly...,simply..., gently... Oh yes!!!
....STUPID???????!!!!! Have you given Clinton your credit card???!!!!!!
Who ARE these IDIOTS???? I thought Reich wingers were smarter on fiscal
matters?
.


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