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User: "order order@chaos"
Date: 31 Aug 2007 01:54:26 PM
Object: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl
Mitchell Holman wrote:


* US * wrote:

And the Japanese, in their war of aggression, slaughtered tens of millions
of Asian civilians. Which is equal to thousands of Hiroshima's and
Nagasaki's.
So, what you are saying is that Japanese lives are much more valuable than
other peoples' lives.
Go to hell, you piece of selfish trash!
.

User: "Mitchell Holman"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 31 Aug 2007 04:20:02 PM
order <order@chaos> wrote in news:13dgov9f9b99809@corp.supernews.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:


* US * wrote:


And the Japanese, in their war of aggression, slaughtered tens of millions
of Asian civilians. Which is equal to thousands of Hiroshima's and
Nagasaki's.

The issue was military necessity. Learn to read
notestreams before replying to them.

So, what you are saying is that Japanese lives are much more valuable than
other peoples' lives.

Nope. Japanese was already in surrender
negotiations, making the bombings unnecessary.

.
User: "order order@chaos"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 31 Aug 2007 05:10:18 PM
Mitchell Holman wrote:

order <order@chaos> wrote in news:13dgov9f9b99809@corp.supernews.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:


* US * wrote:


And the Japanese, in their war of aggression, slaughtered tens of
millions of Asian civilians. Which is equal to thousands of Hiroshima's
and Nagasaki's.


The issue was military necessity. Learn to read
notestreams before replying to them.


So, what you are saying is that Japanese lives are much more valuable
than other peoples' lives.



Nope. Japanese was already in surrender
negotiations, making the bombings unnecessary.

Go to hell, you piece of selfish trash!
Anyway, who cares that few hundred thousand Japanese died in their war of
aggression when their aggression killed tens of millions of Asian
civilians.
.
User: "* US *"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 03 Sep 2007 06:34:57 AM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:10:18 -0700, disorder <order@chaos> wrote:

Go to hell, you piece of selfish trash!

Your mindless hatred makes you support terrorism.
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:18:58 -0500, Mitchell Holman <Noemailplease@comcast.com> wrote:

* US * wrote in news:kf8gd3pcf9ohcpba1kckaen1q85meg61fk@4ax.com:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:35:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<Noemailplease@comcast.com> wrote:

* US * wrote in news:kp1gd3hfovrsvqsuq9mv408t760s38v2ro@4ax.com:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:02:56 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:

... he said ...


He didn't say you'd speak for him at all.

"General Curtis LeMay, who had pioneered precision bombing of Germany
and Japan (and who later headed the Strategic Air Command and served
as Air Force chief of staff), put it most succinctly: "The atomic bomb
had nothing to do with the end of the war.""

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:51:36 -0700, order <order@chaos> wrote:

... supporting and carrying out terrorism...


You even want to 'euthanize' a lot of Americans.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:29:11 -0700, Hiroshima Kook
<hiroshima_facts@yahoo.com> wrote:

The reason is ...


How would you know, when you don't reason?

Why do you support terrorism?

Is it because you hate others, demonize them,
and lust for violence against them?


There was no valid reason for the atomic bombings
of Japan, as Eisenhower clearly stated.





"Japan was already defeated and that dropping the
bomb was completely unnecessary"
Dwight Eisenhower, "Mandate for Change", pg 380


"the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't
necessary to hit them with that awful thing."
Dwight Eisenhower, Newsweek, 11/11/63


"No military justification for the dropping of the bomb".
Douglas MacArthur


Thank you for posting those.



Thought you could use them..........;)

They're apropros and appreciated, indeed.
.


User: "Hiroshima Facts"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 31 Aug 2007 06:33:52 PM
On Aug 31, 5:20 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:

order <order@chaos> wrote innews:13dgov9f9b99809@corp.supernews.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:


* US * wrote:


And the Japanese, in their war of aggression, slaughtered tens of millions
of Asian civilians. Which is equal to thousands of Hiroshima's and
Nagasaki's.


The issue was military necessity.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets, and Japan hadn't
surrendered when they were nuked.

So, what you are saying is that Japanese lives are much more valuable than
other peoples' lives.


Nope. Japanese was already in surrender
negotiations, making the bombings unnecessary.

Wrong again! There were never any negotiations.
.

User: "David Johnston"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 31 Aug 2007 05:36:17 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:20:02 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<Noemailplease@comcast.com> wrote:

order <order@chaos> wrote in news:13dgov9f9b99809@corp.supernews.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:


* US * wrote:


And the Japanese, in their war of aggression, slaughtered tens of millions
of Asian civilians. Which is equal to thousands of Hiroshima's and
Nagasaki's.


The issue was military necessity. Learn to read
notestreams before replying to them.


So, what you are saying is that Japanese lives are much more valuable than
other peoples' lives.



Nope. Japanese was already in surrender
negotiations, making the bombings unnecessary.

Unconditional surrenders are not negotiated. The American theory was
that World War II happened because it did not end with an
unconditional surrender and because the reparation payments were a
continuing burden. Therefore Hitler could claim that Germany had been
betrayed by diplomats who failed to negotiate better terms at the end
of the war and Germany hadn't really been militarily defeated. Since
the Americans didn't want to fight World War III, they therefore
decided this time they would not negotiate any terms but they wouldn't
extract any reparation payments. Therefore they would not allow the
Japanese any face saving negotiations. It was surrender or nothing
because they didn't want the Japanese or the Germans to later on be in
any doubt that this was a diplomatic rather than military defeat.
.
User: "* US *"

Title: Re: Hiroshima and the Bush Doctrine! tvnl 03 Sep 2007 06:35:10 AM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:36:17 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote:

Unconditional surrenders are ...

Irrelevant.
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:10:18 -0700, disorder <order@chaos> wrote:

Go to hell, you piece of selfish trash!

Your mindless hatred makes you support terrorism.
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:18:58 -0500, Mitchell Holman <Noemailplease@comcast.com> wrote:

* US * wrote in news:kf8gd3pcf9ohcpba1kckaen1q85meg61fk@4ax.com:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:35:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<Noemailplease@comcast.com> wrote:

* US * wrote in news:kp1gd3hfovrsvqsuq9mv408t760s38v2ro@4ax.com:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:02:56 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:

... he said ...


He didn't say you'd speak for him at all.

"General Curtis LeMay, who had pioneered precision bombing of Germany
and Japan (and who later headed the Strategic Air Command and served
as Air Force chief of staff), put it most succinctly: "The atomic bomb
had nothing to do with the end of the war.""

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:51:36 -0700, order <order@chaos> wrote:

... supporting and carrying out terrorism...


You even want to 'euthanize' a lot of Americans.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:29:11 -0700, Hiroshima Kook
<hiroshima_facts@yahoo.com> wrote:

The reason is ...


How would you know, when you don't reason?

Why do you support terrorism?

Is it because you hate others, demonize them,
and lust for violence against them?


There was no valid reason for the atomic bombings
of Japan, as Eisenhower clearly stated.





"Japan was already defeated and that dropping the
bomb was completely unnecessary"
Dwight Eisenhower, "Mandate for Change", pg 380


"the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't
necessary to hit them with that awful thing."
Dwight Eisenhower, Newsweek, 11/11/63


"No military justification for the dropping of the bomb".
Douglas MacArthur


Thank you for posting those.



Thought you could use them..........;)

They're apropros and appreciated, indeed.
.




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