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User:	""
Date:	05 Jul 2003 04:01:19 PM
Object:	Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so sincerely,
so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never escape from it." - Goebbels

Another Bush lie.

"A United Nations committee says it has found no evidence of a connection between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terror network. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3027234.stm

Richard Grenell, a spokesman for the US mission at the UN, said: "We
know that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaeda in chemical weapons
development and we also know there were clear contacts between them
that can be documented."
In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member to
operate from Baghdad.
.

User: "Kel"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	06 Jul 2003 03:55:17 AM

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e4fegv45tnbf1s9tidh9ncoea3pcom7k17@4ax.com...

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so

sincerely,

so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never

escape from it." - Goebbels

Another Bush lie.

"A United Nations committee says it has found no evidence of a connection

between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terror network. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3027234.stm

And have you seen any of this documentation?

In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member to
operate from Baghdad.

Powell was lying. They also said that they knew where the WMD were.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	07 Jul 2003 09:21:40 AM

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:55:17 +0100, "Kel" <osterman@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e4fegv45tnbf1s9tidh9ncoea3pcom7k17@4ax.com...

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so

sincerely,

so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never

escape from it." - Goebbels

Another Bush lie.

"A United Nations committee says it has found no evidence of a connection

between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terror network. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3027234.stm

And have you seen any of this documentation?

Nope. Have you seen evidence to the contrary?

In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member to
operate from Baghdad.

Powell was lying. They also said that they knew where the WMD were.

Can you prove this, or is this your guess?
.

User: "no ..."
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	09 Jul 2003 08:32:36 AM

Openly trembling in sadism,

wrote:

...Can you prove this, or is this your guess?

Why didn't you ask that of your idol Bush before the massacres in Iraq?
.

User: "pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com Johnny Asia"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	09 Jul 2003 08:35:14 AM

Dubious Iraqi Link
by David Ignatius
The Washington Post
March 15, 2002
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29957-2002Mar14

How can the United States sell a war against Iraq to skeptical Arabs
and Europeans? A good start would be to level with them and admit
there is no solid evidence linking Baghdad to Osama bin Laden's
terrorist attacks against America.
In the first months after Sept. 11, some prominent U.S. commentators
pushed the idea that al Qaeda terrorist Mohamed Atta had met in Prague
with an Iraqi intelligence officer named Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir
al-Ani. The key meeting supposedly took place in April 2001, as Atta
was plotting the deadly operation that was to destroy the World Trade
Center five months later.
New York Times columnist William Safire, for example, wrote last
November that the alleged Atta-al Ani meeting was "the undisputed fact
connecting Iraq's Saddam Hussein to the Sept. 11 attacks." Similarly,
former CIA director James Woolsey wrote an op-ed piece in the Wall
Street Journal last October headlined "The Iraq Connection," which
cited the reputed Prague meetings.
The problem, according to senior European officials, is that the hard
intelligence to support the Baghdad-bin Laden connection is somewhere
between "slim" and "none." A senior European official said that Atta
did visit Prague once, in 2000, but there is no solid evidence he met
with Iraqi intelligence.
What's more, according to these European officials, there is strong
evidence to the contrary -- directly undermining the theory of an
"Iraq connection." The officials said intelligence reports indicate
that Saddam personally decided against allowing bin Laden and al Qaeda
to use Iraq as a base because he feared they might destabilize his
regime.
According to the European officials, the CIA now shares their
skepticism about the Atta-al Ani connection -- although they said some
Pentagon officials continued to believe it's true.
Even the Czechs, who initially put out the reports about Atta's
meeting with al-Ani, have gradually backed away. The Czech interior
minister, Stanislav Gross, said in October that the two had met in
April 2001. That version was altered slightly by Czech Prime Minister
Milos Zeman when he told CNN in November: "Atta contacted some Iraqi
agent, not to prepare the terrorist attack on [the twin towners] but
to prepare [a] terrorist attack on just the building of Radio Free
Europe" in Prague. Then, in December, Czech President Vaclav Havel
retreated further, saying there was only "a 70 percent" chance Atta
met with al-Ani.
The European officials discounting the Iraq connection, it should be
noted, are no friends of Hussein. They recognize that he has been
involved in many terrorist operations in the past. The case for taking
action against his regime, they contend, must be built on solid
evidence of his efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction -- not
on dubious reports of links to al Qaeda.
http://www.counterpunch.org/blumatta.html
the NY Times reported on page B6 of its October 20, 2001 issue that
Czech "officials said they had been asked by Washington to comb their
records to determine whether Mr. Atta met with an Iraqi diplomat or
agent here. They said they had told the United States they found no
evidence of any such meeting. ... Petr Necas, chairman of the
parliamentary defense committee, said, 'I haven't seen any direct
evidence that Mr. Atta met any Iraqi agent'."
+
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw

The First Church of Common Sense
Want to know what's REALLY going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html

.

User: ""
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	09 Jul 2003 10:33:33 AM

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:32:36 -0400, no ... wrote:

Openly trembling in sadism,

wrote:

...Can you prove this, or is this your guess?

Why didn't you ask that of your idol Bush before the massacres in Iraq?

So, you...once again..........got...............NOTHING.
Young pup!
.

User: "no ..."
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	12 Jul 2003 03:37:22 PM

Obviously terrified into stupor

wrote:

...no ... wrote:

Openly trembling in sadism,

wrote:

...Can you prove this, or is this your guess?

Why didn't you ask that of your idol Bush before the massacres in Iraq?

So, you...once again...got...

You pegged.
Bush spews, you suck, you swallow.
Haven't you any means by which to begin thinking?

NOTHING.

How sad for you.

Young pup!

Otherwise you'd not be so eager to swallow *****.
Iraq wasn't really any threat to you.
You're just too-easily scared into mindlessness.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	13 Jul 2003 12:04:01 PM

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:37:22 -0400, no ... wrote:

Obviously terrified into stupor

wrote:

...no ... wrote:

Openly trembling in sadism,

wrote:

...Can you prove this, or is this your guess?

Why didn't you ask that of your idol Bush before the massacres in Iraq?

So, you...once again...got...

You pegged.

Yup, I am one of those mean people who want you to show proof!
And you, young whelp.....have none.
Want to see an example of PROOF? Gladly!
Today, I signed a consent order in the lawsuit brought by
the Arkansas Committee on Professional Conduct which
brings to an end that proceeding.
I have accepted a five-year suspension of my law license, agreed to pay a $25,000 fine to cover counsel fees, and acknowledged a violation of one of the Arkansas model rules of professional conduct
because of testimony in my Paula Jones case deposition. The disbarment suit will now be dismissed.
I have had occasion frequently to reflect on the Jones
case.
In this consent order, I acknowledge having knowingly
violated Judge Wright's discovery orders in my deposition in that case.
I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully
and testifying falsely, but I now recognize that I
did not fully accomplish this goal and that certain
of my responses to questions about Ms. Lewinsky were false.
-William Jefferson Clinton.
-Jan 19, 2001

.

User: "no ..."
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	13 Jul 2003 02:24:16 PM

Obviously terrified into stupor

wrote:

... to show proof!...

Why didn't you want any from Bush before wanting that killing spree?

...young whelp.....have none...

That's why you can't back up anything you ever try to claim.
The babies of Baghdad weren't really after you with nukes.
.

User: "Gaza"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	05 Jul 2003 04:31:19 PM

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:e4fegv45tnbf1s9tidh9ncoea3pcom7k17@4ax.com...

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:
=20

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea =

so sincerely,=20

so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never =

escape from it." - Goebbels

Another Bush lie.

"A United Nations committee says it has found no evidence of a =

connection between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terror network. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3027234.stm

=20
=20
Richard Grenell, a spokesman for the US mission at the UN, said: "We
know that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaeda in chemical weapons
development and we also know there were clear contacts between them
that can be documented."=20
=20
In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member to
operate from Baghdad.=20
=20
=20

Was this the same presentation in which Powell tried to show the U.N. =
that he had the proof of Saddam's WMD. The same proof which was an =
obvious lie because the sites he had in his satellite pictures had =
already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.
Your are a moron who believes all the crap pouring out of the White =
House and yet after a further investigation by an independent team from =
the U.N. you seem incapable of understanding that the Bush =
administration LIED.
You have been sleeping.
It is now time for you to wake up.
.

User: "Angelmoon"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	06 Jul 2003 06:10:27 PM

"Gaza" <gary.humble@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<be7g3b$1kb2e$1@ID-

Was this the same presentation in which Powell tried to show the U.N.
that he had the proof of Saddam's WMD. The same proof which was an
obvious lie because the sites he had in his satellite pictures had
already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.
Your are a moron who believes all the crap pouring out of the White
House and yet after a further investigation by an independent team from
the U.N. you seem incapable of understanding that the Bush
administration LIED.

You have been sleeping.
It is now time for you to wake up.

My, my, my. Gaza thinks men, women, and children should be tortured
by an evil man while the rest of the world does nothing. And liberals
try to say they are the compassionate ones. HA! This proves beyond
any shadow of a doubt that leftists are NOT compassionate--and they
are against the poor and down-trodden, too.
.

User: "Gaza"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	07 Jul 2003 01:42:37 AM

"Angelmoon" <theangelmoon@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:fa15c388.0307061510.5a41305b@posting.google.com...

"Gaza" <gary.humble@ntlworld.com> wrote in message =

news:<be7g3b$1kb2e$1@ID-

=20

Was this the same presentation in which Powell tried to show the =

U.N.=20

that he had the proof of Saddam's WMD. The same proof which was an=20
obvious lie because the sites he had in his satellite pictures had=20
already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.
Your are a moron who believes all the crap pouring out of the White =
House and yet after a further investigation by an independent team =

from=20

the U.N. you seem incapable of understanding that the Bush=20
administration LIED.
=20
You have been sleeping.
It is now time for you to wake up.

=20
My, my, my. Gaza thinks men, women, and children should be tortured
by an evil man while the rest of the world does nothing. And liberals
try to say they are the compassionate ones. HA! This proves beyond
any shadow of a doubt that leftists are NOT compassionate--and they
are against the poor and down-trodden, too.

Men and women are being tortured all over the world.
This was had nothing do with freeing the Iraqi people. To use such an =
excuse, despite the fact that Bush used a completely different excuse in =
congress to start this war, obligates America to invade half the =
countries in the world for the same reason.
Freeing the Iraqi people was not the reason Bush used in congress.
The reason Bush gave was WMD and American security, both of which have =
not been shown to be lies. Isn't lying to congress to start a war a =
enough reason to impeach a president now, or do you have to wait until =
he gets a ***** from an intern.
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User: ""
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	06 Jul 2003 08:05:21 PM

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:31:19 +0100, "Gaza" <gary.humble@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e4fegv45tnbf1s9tidh9ncoea3pcom7k17@4ax.com...

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Richard Grenell, a spokesman for the US mission at the UN, said: "We
know that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaeda in chemical weapons
development and we also know there were clear contacts between them
that can be documented."

In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member to
operate from Baghdad.

That's correct. Your point?

Was this the same presentation in which Powell tried to show the U.N. that he had the proof of Saddam's WMD.

They do.

The same proof which was an obvious lie because the sites he had in his satellite pictures
had already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.

Now, you need proof! Too, you have to be a bit more patient. Do you
believe Saddam just has his WMD lying about?

Your are a moron who believes all the crap pouring out of the White House and yet
after a further investigation by an independent team from the U.N. you seem incapable of understanding that the Bush administration LIED.

Excellent! Now, all you need to do is *prove it*
(sounds of crickets...............)
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User: "Grinder"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	07 Jul 2003 09:48:03 AM

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qmhhgvksurq47ih29p519n459rpf2p58ht@4ax.com...

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:31:19 +0100, "Gaza" <gary.humble@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

The same proof which was an obvious lie because the sites he had in his

satellite pictures

had already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.

Now, you need proof! Too, you have to be a bit more patient. Do you
believe Saddam just has his WMD lying about?

That was the impression conveyed with the satellite pictures and
"intelligence." Aside from the missiles Powell said there was up to 500
TONS of liquid agents in Iraq. That amount would be difficult to keep
secret for months on end. It would also be difficult to keep its movement
secret considering it would take a caravan of 20-60 semi trucks to transport
it. Think they would stand out on a desert highway? What happened? All
the satellites go dark at the same time?
.

User: "Gaza"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	07 Jul 2003 01:50:52 AM

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:qmhhgvksurq47ih29p519n459rpf2p58ht@4ax.com...

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:31:19 +0100, "Gaza" <gary.humble@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
=20

<otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message =

news:e4fegv45tnbf1s9tidh9ncoea3pcom7k17@4ax.com...

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 15:24:08 GMT, "Grinder" <thomgr@earthlink.net>
wrote:
=20

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an =

idea so sincerely,=20

so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can =

never escape from it." - Goebbels

Another Bush lie.

"A United Nations committee says it has found no evidence of a =

connection between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terror network. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3027234.stm

=20
=20
Richard Grenell, a spokesman for the US mission at the UN, said: =

"We

know that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaeda in chemical =

weapons

development and we also know there were clear contacts between them
that can be documented."=20
=20
In his presentation to the security council in February, Mr Powell
said the former Iraqi regime was allowing a senior al-Qaeda member =

operate from Baghdad.=20

=20
That's correct. Your point?
=20
=20

Was this the same presentation in which Powell tried to show the U.N. =

that he had the proof of Saddam's WMD.=20

=20
They do.

Are you totally deluded or what ?????
There never was any proof. It was all bogus.
That is why assholes like you are trying to convince the world that the =
reason fro the invasion was to free the Iraqi people when it was not.
Bush lied to congress when he told them that Saddam was an immenent =
threat to the U.S.
Lying to congress to start a war is probably the worst crime there is =
for a president.

=20

The same proof which was an obvious lie because the sites he had in =

his satellite pictures=20

had already recently been inspected and cleared by Blix and his team.

=20
Now, you need proof! Too, you have to be a bit more patient. Do you
believe Saddam just has his WMD lying about?

I doubt he has any since 1998.
For someone who has absolute proof of the existance of these WMD, Bush =
is definetely having a hard time finding them.

=20

Your are a moron who believes all the crap pouring out of the White =

House and yet=20

after a further investigation by an independent team from the U.N. =

you seem incapable of understanding that the Bush administration LIED.

=20
Excellent! Now, all you need to do is *prove it*

It is for Bush to prove.
He started the war based on his bogus lies.
It is impossible to prove the existance of something that does not =
exist.=20
You may as well ask me to prove that dragons and fairies exist.
.

User: "Jeffrey Turner"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	06 Jul 2003 11:10:25 PM

wrote:

Now, you need proof! Too, you have to be a bit more patient. Do you
believe Saddam just has his WMD lying about?

Bush was the one lying about Saddam Hussein's WMD.
--Jeff
.

User: "nucleus"
Title: Re: Iraq had no links to Al-Qaeda	06 Jul 2003 11:14:03 PM

In article <3F08F2B1.10307@localnet.com>,

wrote:

otis_p_driftwood@hotmail.com wrote:

Now, you need proof! Too, you have to be a bit more patient. Do you
believe Saddam just has his WMD lying about?

Bush was the one lying about Saddam Hussein's WMD.

--Jeff

Subject: Zig heil to New World Order
A few quotes for a warm-up cycle...
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order
to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for
patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.
It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and
the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader
will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the
leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
- Julius Caesar
In 1919 Joseph Schumpteter described ancient Rome in a
way that sounds eerily like the United States in 2002.
"There was no corner of the known world where some
interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual
attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those
of Rome's allies; and if Rome had no allies, the allies
would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to
contrive such an interest -- why, then it was the national
honor that had been insulted. The fight was always
invested with an aura of legality. Rome was always being
attacked by evil-minded neighbours...The whole world was
pervaded by a host of enemies, it was manifestly Rome's
duty to guard against their indubitably aggressive designs."
Herman Goering, president of the Reichstag,
Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief:
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in
Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple
matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament,
or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce
the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Herman Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler)
at the Nuremberg Trials
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the
populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by an endless series of hobgoblins."
- H.L. Mencken
Now...
This is about the corrupt "power elite" of usenet,
the same thing as your corrupt governments
and about those evilest of all evil Freemasons,
who rule your sorry asses,
interested in maximizing the process
of sucking the blood of many by the few.
It is about your sick world and the WWIII,
you have cooking on your plate.
It is about bio-robotization of humans
and reduction of human intelligence
to the level of a functioning machine.
It is about your totalitarian dictators
and fascists, manipulating your guilt
and fear, while posing as some kind of
public servants, protecting all from
"evil", they themselves invented and
defined.
It is about the evilest of ALL evil,
calling the others evil, just as a decoy.
It is about corruption and deceit of
proportions unseen.
It is about so called New World Order,
and the foundations of it.
It is about these vicious criminals
against humanity, destroying your freedoms,
while making the sucking sounds with their
mealy mouths about protecting those very freedoms.
It is about the hunt down on your dissidents,
the best of your kind.
It is about you, people of the planet Earth,
during the last convulsions
of the Age of Corruption,
you all being fed as Information Age.
It is about your only two remaining "laws":
1. Money = god,
and god = money.
2. Either I suck your blood,
or you will suck mine.
There is just no other way.
It is about your world, coming down on you.
Eat it now.
In article <u3d258s95.fsf@aegis.gooroos.com>, piranha <piranha@gooroos.com>
wrote:

galimatias@wahoo.com (Galimatias) wrote:

Why can't responsible, knowledgeable, people like Russ determine
the ISP of "librarian" and request that he either stop his
disruptive posting to n.g. or lose his posting privileges?
(Has the eagle flown?)

because people like russ are busy brokering peace in the middle
east (a losing proposition these days), hunting down osama bin
laden personally, and finding a cure for cancer.

Oh, finally, long time no see.
Ladies, Gents and assorted bio-robots,
itshehebe piranha, the big-sucking-8 fuehrer wannabe is here
to continue the campaign
of global deception and lies,
of fabrication and perversion
of all there is to pervert.
The first step, usually, on the way of self-promotion,
is licking asses of those, who are long due to retire,
and yet unable to loose their grip on power.
Yes, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely",
and usenet gives these fascists an equivalent
of absolute power.
Zo...
Licking the ***** of Russ Allbery REALLY good
is about the best way to be noticed
and have a chance to be appointed,
mind you, APPOINTED
by the current clique of usenet fascists,
ruling the big-sucking-8,
the most censored, most blatantly fascist
and yet, most propagated hierarchy there is.
It is a hierarchy where the most blatant
censorship and group takeover with perverted
tricks of "moderation" by the most blatant,
self-admitted fascists, such as David Kinny,
who took over one of the most important groups,
the root of the entire AI hierarchy, comp.ai,
who conducted a campaign of lies, fabrication
and outright deceit,
is not only accepted, but promoted and cherished.
First of all, power on usenet,
like in the fascist or totalitarian systems,
is passed via appointment.
Screw the idea of democracy.
That idea is outdated and cancelled,
just as the 1972 global nuclear self defense treaty
cancelled by this 2nd derivative Freemason, Bush,
that senile monster with a mind of a juvenile,
who came to finish the trip of New World Order,
as blatantly and arrogantly proclaimed
by his own father,
one of the slimiest CIA figures in history,
whose dumb ***** was ruled by the "silver fox", his wife,
just as was the case with the rest of them,
"rulers" throughout the times.
The same story as with that honorary 33 degree Freemason,
Reagan, who used a decoy of calling Russia the "evil empire",
just to delude all and distract everyone's attention,
plus put Russia on defensive.
"The best defense is an attack",
an ancient Roman technique,
and that 3rd rate movie actor
with mentality of a deranged cowboy
knew it all too well.
Because the REAL evil empire was his,
and he knew it all too well.
Service to that very evil empire
was exactly the reason he was awarded
a honorary highest degree in Freemasonry,
for his "long time and extensive cooperation
with Freemasons".
The question naturally arises:
What kind of "cooperation"
and what kind of "projects", significant enough
to result in awarding him the highest degree
in Freemasonry, were carried out by him
to benefit the agenda of Freemasonry?
Another words, a conspiracy behind the scenes
between Freemasons and Reagan
that resulted in some of the most devastating
developments in the world affairs,
directed by the hands of those servants of the beast,
whose sign is 666,
posing as some kind of seekers of light,
heart and truth just to delude all
as they always do.
On every single bar code
there is a sign of the beast.
The leftmost two thin lines are 6
and so are the rightmost two lines
and so are the two lines in the middle,
thus implementing the commandment
of that very beast:
"On the forehead of every single man
or in his right hand,
there must be my symbol, 666"
They seek power over others,
forever improving their skills of manipulation
of symbology with the help of occult and Kabbala,
during their secret rituals deep at night.
Some references before we go on:
http://educate-yourself.org/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.html
http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/
http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm
http://www.hiscorearcade.com/skullandbones.htm
http://www.secretsofthetomb.com/excerpt.php
http://luxefaire.com/sculland.htm
http://www.knightstemplar.org/
http://hem.passagen.se/thebee/EU/global.htm
http://www.sfmoma.org/espace/rsub/project/disinfo/prop_newordr_trilateral.html
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
http://pnews.org/boards/feminism/messages/6.html
Now...
Reagan invented the idea of star wars,
trying to create the biggest military advantage
for his evil empire
in order to complete the trip of global domination,
just as Freemasons and Illuminati crave for
as evidenced on the back of one dollar bill.
"Novus Ordo Seclorum" - "New World Order".
That is what this is all about.
Yes, the same as here, control, domination, oppression,
violence of unlimited and unprecedented grade
and things of that nature. The same perverted,
crimially minded members of the "power elite",
hiding behind the concepts of democracy, freedom
and "protecting the american people form 'evil'",
they themselves invented and defined,
just like it is here, on big-sucking-8.
The same tricks, the same lies,
the same manipulation,
the same mass deceit,
the same violence,
the same blood boiling idiocy and intolerance.
The same totalitarianism and fascism
of raging grade, knowing no limits whatsoever.
Another words, the same old *****
since the times of poisoning of Socrates,
who gave you all the very idea of democracy,
about the most advanced idea
in the entire history of mankind
besides the idea of love,
being the very essence of life,
given to you by Jesus.
You nailed that one to a piece of wood also,
just as you always do to anyone, who stands
on your rotten, corrupt and violent way.
Then you have built the churches in his name
and used him as some kind of a commodity,
pretending to be serving him,
while, at the same time, stuffing your bellies,
making everyone pay you a "sin" tax,
using the tricks of guilt and fear manipulation.
Fear
and guilt.
That is how you tick by now
as a result of unending manipulation and
mind programming by the evillest of all evil,
manipulating your subconscious every place you look.
The very concept of god was perverted,
as though god was some kind of a ferocious monster
to torture you all
for non submittal to the doctrine,
even though that very Jesus told you
"how can you punish the blind for not
being able to see".
You burned Pythagoras alive and with him
the biggest library and accumulation of
the most advanced knowledge
on the face of the planet Earth,
he gathered traveling by foot
throughout all lands,
that was said to be burning for months.
Pythagoras gave you the most essential ideas
you use in modern technology and science,
the ideas that preceded your most advanced
scientific work by nearly 2 millenniums.
The Furrier analysis is but a byproduct of his
ideas. The idea of an octave and a concept of
harmonics, that is at the core of modern science,
technology and music was his idea.
The ideas of the most profound and mystical
significance of sacred cosmic proportions were his.
The solution of a triangle that finally laid
the foundation of modern civilization
as, for the very least, it allowed precise
calculation while dividing land into parcels
was created by him also. It helped to resolve
many conflicts between the people
and increased the precision of architecture
and science by the orders of magnitude.
The ideas of Pythagoras lay at the very foundation
of Masonic obsession with symbology to a large
extent. They took that sacred knowledge
and eventually perverted it to the point
well beyond horrendous,
finally leading to what you have now and,
specifically, the idea of New World Order.
Freemasons, the direct descendants of Zealots,
used the ideas of Pythagoras and converted it all
into a service of the beast, whose sign is 666.
Now, what remains of Pythagoras
"could comfortably fit on a post card",
so utterly it was all destroyed,
just to prevent any genuine progress
and a process of de-hypnotization of the masses,
kept in all sorts of delusions
throughout the times by the same evil,
blood thirsty conmen,
who are so negative and so uncreative
that the only thing they are capable of
is to forever invent new ways
of sucking the blood of others
and enlarge their bellies,
driven by the fear of "survival"
as they know not that very trust,
that propels all life.
Finally, they came to the point
where the real "god" of theirs
is the paper good of money,
and so they ended up forever
accumulating it, hoping to somehow
manage to run away from that very fear
of "survival".
They even invented this perverted idea
of "survival of the fittest",
the most devastating and life condemnating idea
there is.
That is the extent of their "creativity".
It is such a profound negativity
and mistrust toward their own being
and all life as such,
that it basically invalidates
the very concept of divine or "god".
If sucking blood of many by the few
is what you call "creativity",
then what your very idea of god is worth?
What is this very craving and thirst
for blood of others if there
is god to guide you all
and provide you everything in nature and beyond?
It is UTTER and COMPLETE negation of life.
It is an escapism from creativity
and brotherhood of all people
of the planet Earth
and not only people,
but all life as such.
Only if you TOTALLY mistrust
that very essence of life
can you become such blood thirsty monsters,
seeking one thing and one thing only,
maximization of the rate of sucking
of the blood of many by the few.
You massacred Mansur,
and you annihilated so many
of your brightest starts,
that it is simply amazing
you survived to this day.
You forever try to kill every single one,
who challenges your thirst
for sucking the blood from many
by the very few.
As a result,
you have not made any genuine progress
since the stone ages.
Now, it is OBVIOUSLY taken for granted,
and undisputedly so,
that Russ is on the par
with the world caliber "heroes",
better known to the masters throughout times,
as the biggest and most destructive monsters
that ever walked the face of the planet Earth.
Let us analyze it and see what those "heroes"
are made out of.
Now...
This conman Bush,
that mentally retarded idiot
with mentality of a 2 year old,
utterly incapable of grasping
the consequences of his own actions,
and can not even be held liable
as a criminal against the mankind
on the basis of his utter mental inability
to grasp it all,
without ANY proper legal proceedings,
without ANY evidence,
accepted by the courts of proper authority,
started a war,
and not against some terrorists,
but against the country of Afghanistan
merely furthering the agenda of NWO
and global domination.
At this junction, it is totally controlled
by the evil empire.
His initial claim
that they are interested in finding
"those, responsible for this horrible act",
was pure deceit,
just as you see it here, on usenet.
His real interest is the world hegemony
of evil, as the concept of New World Order,
pronounced by his own father states.
It is global domination, fascism and totalitarianism.
It is converting the people into puppets
and bio-robots, the functioning machines,
used by these very monsters
to become fatter and fatter and fatter
in their never ending thirst for blood.
That is why they created an extensive
collection of movies on the subject
of vampirism. It is done in order to create
the subconscious acceptance of vampirism
and make your vulnerable, suggestive
and programmable minds accept that very
"power" as something real,
planting the subconscious fear in you all.
Fear on one side and inevitability on the
other side. Cunning as it gets.
As Freemasons know all too well,
once you accept ANY idea,
you become a subject to it.
You become vulnerable to symbolic manipulations
using it as a sword of sorts.
That 3rd derivative Freemason, Bush,
knows ALL too well
that about the ONLY card in his deck
is the card with the sword.
Otherwise,
he can not possibly be of any assistance
to his own country
or solve ANY of the most urgent problems,
facing the world,
coming down on you.
His intelligence is on the par with an amoeba
and about the only thing he is interested in
is a fascist boot of "might makes right".
That is his only and exclusive tool and weapon.
The sword is the ONLY possible way
for him to keep his "ratings"
and look like something real,
something of significance.
He will create some the most devastating events
in the entire history of mankind
while perverting it to look like
he is a genuine servant of "good",
ridding the world of all "evil",
even though he is the manifestation
of that very evil,
spreading the fire of violence
throughout all lands
and achieving his own agenda
of world domination
manipulating and fabricating
left and right.
A typical mind of an evil monster
from the lands of the Masonic empire
of the united sucking states that
blatantly and arrogantly put the very
evidence of its satanic origins
on its own currency.
He poses as true and genuine servant
of his own people,
which is a lie, and nothing but a lie,
as he is the servant of the beast,
the one that sucks your energy,
interested in creating
the world hegemony of evil.
The evidence is all over.
It is so clear and concise,
that you must be totally deranged
not to see it,
or be such a pathological case,
manipulating the most perverted lies
to make them look like truth,
that it is well beyond comprehension.
The whole operation in Afghanistan
is a scam
and it is not clear,
and will probably remain secret
until the end of times,
who did it and why
and what agenda does it serve.
Using this scam with Afghanistan,
these evil monsters were able to
manipulate the world opinion,
playing the same guilt and fear card,
and obtain an overwhelming approval and
support and, at the same time,
boost their military budget to the levels
exceeding the cold war period by far.
Why?
For what?
These very servants of evil run their mealy mouths
about "cold war is over" and
"a new deal and cooperation" and,
at the same time,
spending more money on the military
than the entire Europe and Japan combined,
all in the name of "fighting terrorism",
being the masters of manipulation and fabrication,
using the most potent tricks
of manipulation of symbology
learned from Freemasons and Illuminati.
They are spending $400+ billions annually on this scam,
which is factors of magnitude more than
it would take to restore the entire economies
of Eastern Europe, Africa, Afghanistan and
the entire Middle East combined.
But they are not interested in restoration
of those economies. Instead, they are interested
in finding new tricks to facilitate their agenda
of global domination, keeping those economies
in a devastated state.
They brag about "free trade" and yet, keep the entire
world in powerty, starvation and misery just to make
sure no one can match their race of "blue blooded"
and they remain the exclusive dictators on the face
of the planet Earth.
The budget of this size is factors of magnitude more
than it would take to rid the entire world of hunger
according to the opinions of the experts.
The most amazing thing is that they managed
to manipulate guilt and fear of all their
people and support this biggest military
expansion on record even though the former
"enemies" are now being called friends.
How could the military budget of this magnitude
be justified with this "war on terrorism" scam?
Even at the times of the most expansive, nuclear
accumulation, the military budget was smaller
than it is now.
They will never "win" the war on terrorism
with these tricks and they are not even interested
in it and they know all too well, it is simply impossible.
Just the other way around.
The more they go around the world
and step on the other people with their
fascist boot of "might makes right",
the more they saw the seeds of that very
terrorism. That is probably the very
strategy of this global deceit as it
begins to feed on itself. It is likely
that the terrorist activity will increase
throughout the world and new countries
will be placed on a "black list" to be hit next
in this world hegemony of evil,
hiding behind the concept of
protecting all from "evil",
just as it is here on usenet.
That is about the fastest way to expand
the domain of the evil empire globally
and no country in the world
would be able to object.
Otherwise, they will be classified
as supporters of "terrorism" and become subject
of the next high tech military attack themeselves.
Cunning as it gets.
Even to believe this military expansion scam
is done in the name of "war on terrorism",
one must be simply senile or naive to the point
of oblivion.
It is not about terrorism.
It is essentially the same thing
as "war on crime" scam. The more war
on crime there is, the more you become
a fascist and a totalitarian state,
creating the very motivation to commit
that very crime you claim to be fighting
just to oppose you.
It is but a scam with the hidden agenda
of totalitarianism and fascism,
meant to convert the people
into functioning machines
eventually to be used
by the fattest parasites there are
to become fatter and fatter,
and build the tremendous enterprises,
feeding on this thing.
It is about the world hegemony of evil
and undisputable domination
by the evil empire
over all lands.
It is not a coincidence
that after becoming a president,
Bush immediately appointed the most ferocious,
the most senile and the most violent monsters
into top positions in the government,
related to violence, domination and military.
The unprecedented process of disassembling
the very foundation of his own country
and destruction of the most fundamental ideas,
such as democracy and justice, constitution
and other most fundamental principles,
has ALREADY been largely completed.
From now on, there is basically nothing left
of what was known as justice,
and especially the international justice,
which will inevitably lead
to great instability in the world.
The corrupt congress has already annihilated
some of the MOST fundamental protections,
provided by the constitution of the USA.
The totalitarian and fascist terror
is upon your land and all others.
At this very junction,
the actions by the most radical
right wing monsters
in the government of the USA
are nothing different
than an attempt to topple the government
and install the reign of the beast
upon all.
The situation in the world
is so destabilized
and the people are already
so corrupt and insane,
as their minds are being constantly jammed
with all sorts of ideas of violence
from any and all the channels
of communications and media,
that it is about the best time to
make his final attempt.
Your minds are already programmed
via trick of constant and unending repetition
of the most primitive and shortest ideas there are,
that the mankind has essentially became
the land of bio-robots,
literally programmed to oblivion.
Most of the communications are done
using the simplest and the most idiotic
ideas and templates.
An average sentence length is about 3.5 words
and an average word length is about 3.5 letters.
Vast majority of your communications
are virtually meaningless as there can be no
information in "How are ya? - Nice. How is
weather? - Nice" type of exchanges.
Thus, it has come the time
to complete the work of the beast.
There has never ever,
in the entire history of mankind,
been a better time to do it,
and again,
the evidence of that beast
is so compelling and so pervasive,
that all you have to do
is to pull out your vallet
and look at your own
one dollar bill.
On that very dollar bill,
you have written with your own hand,
your own death sentence,
and again,
using the Masonic symbology.
The symbol of a pyramid
is the symbol of the most powerful empire,
fallen into dust.
Furthermore, the writings in Latin
under the pyramid are:
1. "Novus Ordo Seclorum", meaning "New Order Of the Ages",
or, in modern terms, "New World Order".
Thus, the idea of NWO goes back to the times
of creation of the USA.
It is not a new idea by ANY means.
The symbol with the pyramid inside
is the Seal of the Illuminati.
Adam Weishaupt founded the
Illuminati of Bavaria in 1776.
Illuminati are the hidden worldwide cult
of world rulers or the "elite",
so secretive, that there virtually exist no
information about it even though they control
over half of the Internet, "entertainment" industry,
media, molding your minds and programming them
in any way they please, vast amounts of banking,
shipping, oil exploration and many other industries.
They think of ordinary people as "sheep"
to be lead to "enlightenment".
On the surface, they are interested in progress
and "enlightenment", but their secret agenda
is of the most profound evil.
It is essentially a pathological craving
for domination over all others,
guided by the powers of occult,
just as the beast craves for.
Their most secret concept is the idea of a
"fall from grace" or death
and eventual resurrection at some point,
which will happen between the years 2010
and 2020 according to their long term plans.
Since the time of creation of Illuminati
hidden society, their idea is to "lead the sheep"
to the eventual state of acceptance of a single
world government and a global totalitarian state.
Illuminati foundation lays in Freemasonry
and they accepted the occult symbology
of Freemasonry as their very guiding principles.
Thus, they are at the same time Freemasons
of the highest, 33rd degree. In fact, Freemasons
are used as a front of this hidden organization
as Illuminati pretend to not exist at all.
Using their usual tricks of deception,
Freemasons will claim that Illuminati no longer
exist and were active during the end of 17th century.
Here is a quote by their founder Adam Weishaupt:
Spartacus (Weishaupt) to Cato (Zwack, A Lawyer)
"Nothing would be more profitable to us than a
right history of mankind. Despotism has robbed
them of their liberty. How can the weak obtain
protection? Only by union; but this is rare.
Nothing can bring this about but hidden societies.
Hidden schools of wisdom are the means which will
one day free men from their bonds.
These have in all ages been the archives of nature,
and the rights of men; and by them shall human nature
be raised from her fallen state.
Princes and nations shall vanish from the earth.
The human race will then become one family,
and the world will be the dwelling of Rational Men."
Yes, hidden societies,
hidden societies.
Interestingly enough, is the idea of
"shall human nature be raised from her fallen state".
Thus the most dearly held concept of a phoenix,
the bird, risen from the ashes,
represented by the number 13.
Thus, he has laid down the concept of New World Order.
Then he goes:
"Morality alone can do this. The head of every
family will be what Abraham was, the patriarch,
the priest and the unlettered lord of his family,
and Reason will be the code of laws to all mankind.
This is our great secret. True, there maybe some
disturbance..."
That is where those "family values" come from.
Yes, morality is the trick.
"Good" and "bad" definitions.
Black and white.
The foundation of fascism.
The morality can be changed at will
in any way they please
at any given time. Things,
that were classified as "bad" before,
could be easily made "good"
and vice versa.
Morality can not be proven because it is based
on beliefs aledgedly derived from the "holy" books.
But who wrote those books?
Well, they say god did it.
So it goes back to blaming god.
Arguing about morality is essentially arguing
about existance of god, an excersize in futility.
Thus, morality becomes about the most potent
trick in their bag, serving the agenda of
eventual totalitarian state on a global scale.
Interestingly enough, morality has already been
accepted by the people at large as some "ultimate"
way to resolve any issues. It has become the
final determinant.
"Because it is a GOOD thing to do"...
That is about ALL you need
to justify virtually any act,
be it the most horrendous act of violence
and evil.
Then he goes on:
"But alas! the task of self-formation was
too hard for the subjects of the Roman empire,
corrupted by every species of profligacy.
A chosen few recieved the doctrines in secret,
and they have been handed down to us
(but frequently almost buried under rubbish of
man's invention) by the Freemasons.
...
Freemasonry is a Royal Art, inasmuch as it
teaches us to walk without trammels, and to
govern ourselves."
So, according to Weishaupt,
"... the task of self-formation was
too hard for the subjects of the Roman empire..."
Therefore, they need to be organized
by some external force, some "enlightened" "elite".
This is where the roots of fascism are.
Nevertheless, the idea of NWO,
as it is being currently played out,
is their secret doctrine of
a single world government,
a super state,
a global totalitarianism,
fascism, ruled by "right" and "wrong",
"good" and "bad", black and white.
Wonder why do these antiglobalists
rage so much?
It has been said by one of the Illuminati's mind
programmers and trainers that, according to his
information, the world government is to be
openly pronounced by the year 2020.
At that time, the United Nations is to become
an obscure organization having no effective power
to do anything of significance.
See http://educate-yourself.org/mcsvaliinterviewpt13.html
for more information.
The designs of many symbols in the
Great Seal of the USA are composed of 13 units.
13 leaves.
13 arrows.
13 stars.
13 berries.
13 stripes on the flag.
13 raws of stones on the pyramid.
"E Pluribus Unum" contains 13 letters
and so is "Annuit Coeptis".
There are 10 places on a great seal
where the number 13 is used.
Why?
What is so special about number 13?
13 is the number of death and rebirth,
death and reincarnation, sacrifice,
the Phoenix. 13 is known as "devil's dozen" in
some traditions.
Some references from
http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com
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A former witch, William Schnoebelen, in his book,
Satan's Door Revisited, p. 4.:
"The Phoenix, of Bunnu is believed to be a divine
bird going back to Egypt ...
This Phoenix destroys itself in flames and then
rises from the ashes.
Most occultists believe that the Phoenix is a symbol
of Lucifer who was cast down in flames and who ...
will one day rise triumphant.
This [belief] also relates to the raising of
Hiram Abiff, the Masonic 'christ'."
Albert Pike, in Magnum Opus, writes, "...
the Eagle was the living Symbol of Egyptian God
Mendes ... and the representative of the Sun
..." [p. xviii]
Manly P. Hall, in his book, The Lost Keys of
Freemasonry, states, "These were the immortals
to whom the term 'phoenix' was applied, and their
symbol was the mysterious two-headed bird,
now called an eagle, a familiar and little
understood Masonic emblem ."
[p. 108]
In one sentence, we see the admission that the
Phoenix Bird of Ancient Satanic Egypt was changed
into the Masonic Eagle and then Pike's admits that
the Eagle is the Symbol of the Sun God and of the
God of Mendes, both symbols being common Satanic
symbols of Satan/Lucifer !
---------------- Quotes end -------------------
Wonder why Russ Albery, the godfather of brainwashing
and party propaganda on usenet calls himself an eagle?
Guess.
The eye on the top part of the pyramid,
is an all-seeing eye of Horus, god of horror.
It is used to instill a subconscious fear.
"Big brother watching" type of thing.
George Washington, whose picture is on the
front side of one dollar bill, was a Freemason.
Another words, one dollar bill is about the hardest
evidence of the USA being the Masonic empire there is.
So obvious it is.
"When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the
block is the proper application of the dynamo of
living power, he has learned the mystery of his
Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his
hands and before he may step onward and upward,
he must prove his ability to properly apply energy."
Illustrious Manly P. Hall 33�
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, page 48
Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc.
Richmond, Virginia, 1976
"Warrior on the block"...
Looks like the right wing representatives in your
governments indeed. Their zeal and viciousness just
about fits this concept indeed.
"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious
name to give to the Spirit of Darkness!
Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears
the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds
feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!
Morals and Dogma, page 321
Illustrious Albert Pike 33�
Sovereign Grand Commander Supreme Council 33�,
The Mother Supreme Council of the World
"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists,
and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror
will show clearly to the nations the
effects of absolute atheism, origin
of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend
themselves against the world minority of
revolutionaries, will exterminate those
destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic
spirits will be from that moment without compass,
anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where
to render its adoration, will receive the pure
doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the
public view, a manifestation which will result
from the general reactionary movement which will
follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism,
both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Illustrious Albert Pike 33�
Letter 15 August 1871
Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33�
Archives British Museum
London, England
Quotes by Madam Blavatsky 32�:
"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress..
Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence..
Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior."
pages 171, 225, 255 (Volume II)
"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and
the only God." pages 215, 216,
220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the
Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same
time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent
Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer
or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and
terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and 'Satan'
at one and the same time." page 539
'The Secret Doctrine'
by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
Hymn to Lucifer
by Aleister Crowley 33�
"Ware, nor of good nor ill, what aim hath act?
Without its climax, death, what savour hath
Life? an impeccable machine, exact
He paces an inane and pointless path
To glut brute appetites, his sole content
How tedious were he fit to comprehend
Himself! More, this our noble element
Of fire in nature, love in spirit, unkenned
Life hath no spring, no axle, and no end.
His body a blood-ruby radiant
With noble passion, sun-souled Lucifer
Swept through the dawn colossal, swift aslant
On Eden's imbecile perimeter.
He blessed nonentity with every curse
And spiced with sorrow the dull soul of sense,
Breath life into the sterile universe,
With Love and Knowledge drove out innocence
The Key of Joy is disobedience."
Now...
This arrogant, chest pumping idiot, Bush,
knew all too well,
that he is UTTERLY incapable
of helping the USA
to solve its problems
and find solutions to the issues of mankind,
including the global environmental collapse
forthcoming.
About the only thing he is capable of,
is to use the same old trick,
used by all other corrupt politicians,
a trick of decoy.
They simply start some war,
and play the guilt and the fear cards
to the extreme,
pumping up the concept
of "national suckurity",
yes, suckurity,
to hush down all those,
who might oppose them.
On that background,
they weave their nets of evil
and advance their hidden agenda
of the most profound evil.
They manipulate the media moguls
to make sure they only present
a totally biased information
to their own people.
Interestingly enough,
CNN, in unprecedented manner,
in the entire history of the USA,
blatantly announced that from now on,
it will censor all the information
and present only certain kinds of views,
they call "responsible information".
Just like it was done
in the socialist Russia
or the fascist Germany.
Thus, you laid the concept of freedom of speech
under the thumb stone.
From now on, you have no such a thing,
and will be fed the lowest grade crap
from nearly any place you look.
Poor you, poor you.
The concepts of democracy,
freedom of speech
and some of other of your most dearly held ideas
are but history.
From now on,
it is a global totalitarianism
by the evilest empire
that ever was.
Who do you think owns and runs CNN?
Guess.
What is a logo of AOL?
Well, the same pyramid
and the same eye of Horus.
What is a logo of CBS?
Guess.
So, the evilest empire of all
sucked-in the whole world
into this grand scam in Afghanistan,
and again, without ANY evidence.
All these concoctions,
they call evidence,
can not be recognized in principle
as they are done in violation
of the most fundamental principles
of justice.
Thus, your justice is dead,
domestic or international,
and so comes down your entire record
of legislature, law and principles
upon you.
From now on, it is a huntdown
instead of justice.
You can basically cancel
the legal system at this point,
and you wouldn't loose a thing.
In fact, you might even gain something,
compared to what you have on your hands now.
Because in the current context,
the people themselves
would probably resolve it just as well,
as they know all too well,
their time is near.
Even according to the materials
provided by the Offense Department of the USA,
which, from now on, is what its true name is,
and the opinions of the worlds foremost
environmental experts
by the year 2018 the planet Earth
will become...
a living hell.
These servants of the beast
started with one thing in Afghanistan
and ended up with a totally different one
and this is not the end of the story.
The story just barely begun.
The world hegemony of evil is upon your lands.
For each of the 6 thousand people
claimed to have died in New York,
you have nearly a 1000 people of Afganistan,
and UTTERLY innocent people, mind you,
suffering death and starvation,
horrible cold and humiliation,
uprooting from their homes,
being forced to live in refuge camps,
eating the dog *****,
these evil monsters throw down from the planes,
in this global deception campaign,
covering up their red horns
and trying to look "humane".
Just as the latest news reports arrive,
some horrible war crimes are being disclosed.
Killing of innocent people,
rape and pillage,
pulling the teeth out from the dead,
decaying bodies.
Just the other day,
there was a devastating attack
on the column of the cars, going to Kabul
to participate in currently held ceremonies
in government.
They were specifically rerouted to the back roads
by the spies and totally annihilated
by the USA killers in the air,
all in the name of "good".
Good?
The scene was the most
horrendous devastation imaginable.
Every single car had thousands of holes.
It is currently believed
that the person with the radio
informed the evil empire
and they came to do
their horrendous crime
against those innocent people.
War crimes?
Nope. It is all nice and dandy.
The international war tribunal
will not even bother.
So, the games have begun,
and all the parties
will be manipulating it
to their advantage,
causing the devastation and destruction
to their opponents,
and the evil empire
is all to happy
to annihilate ANYONE,
even if they are innocent.
At this very junction, different warring
factions in Afghanistan, give false information
to the evil empire and identify their enemy clans
as members of terrorist networks, using the evil
empire as the most potent weapon to destroy the
competing clans, and the evil empire is all too
happy to accommodate, no matter who is end up being
dead.
Because the people of Afghanistan
are but filth of the "inferior race"
to these blood thirsty monsters,
thinking they are some kind of pure blooded
Aryan race of rulers.
Those people do not count for anything.
They are just considered a "collateral damage",
the most cunning trick,
invented by the same evil monsters,
to disguise the most horrendous murder
as some equivalent
of a collateral on a loan for your house.
So cunning and perverted these cowardly monsters are.
They will not use the terms "murder" or "killing",
"destruction" and things of that nature.
Instead, they will lie to all
and make it look like
the most innocent thing there is,
being evil to the bone and marrow.
All your food that expired
a long time ago
is being simply thrown away in Afganistan
and used as a cunning trick
to make the servants of the beast
look like the most humane of all.
Some are even getting rich on this scam.
So corrupt you have become.
That is how ALL the fascist systems operate.
They think one Aryan is worth MUCH more
than any other "filth" or "infidel",
such as Afghanistani people,
who knew so much misery and horror,
you can not even begin to comprehend it all,
you fat, violent parasites,
posing as servants of "good".
So, for 6 thousand people, millions of innocent people paid.
And without ANY court proceedings.
Is THAT what is left of your concepts of justice?
They toppled the present regime
and, for all practical purposes,
took over the Afghanistan.
Was THAT the "goal" they had initially?
You mean you can just annihilate the whole Earth,
need be, just to find a few people
you claim are responsible,
even before the jury is in order?
Meanwhile, did they catch the one,
they claim to be responsible so far?
Nope.
Will they EVER catch him?
Guess.
Zo...
What happened?
Well...
Just another scam, just as usual.
That is EXACTLY how this global imperialism
of the New World Order,
as pronounced by that arrogant idiot,
the father of this monkey *****, Bush,
was supposed to work.
"Might makes right".
This is one of the main principles
of that very evil empire,
that called the others evil,
just as a decoy.
That is how they "take care" of their own people,
if those do not follow the party line.
Some of the most progressive,
intelligent and educated people,
genuinely contributing
to the modern world,
have been either annihilated
or otherwise destroyed
via millions of poisonous tricks and lies
of all kinds.
For example, what happened to that CNN reporter,
who was broadcasting the pictures of destruction
of Baghdad in the real time during
the desert scam operation. He was one of the
most honest reporters there are. Yes, his direct
broadcasts from the roof of the hotel in Baghdad
were not in alignment with the desires of the
evil monsters, conducting that campaign of destruction.
They only wanted a party propaganda and deceit
to be shown on the idiot box, you call TV.
But he had the courage to simply show it how it is.
Because he is a honest man.
That is why you do not see him any longer
on the idiot box, even though
he is one of the most unprejudiced
and courageous reporters in the whole world.
He just simply vanished and instead of him
they installed a puppet and a party propaganda peddler
as their main international affairs correspondent.
Plenty of the most progressive and honorable people
were destroyed or incarcerated
by the hand of that criminal,
Edgar Hoover, who created the most paranoid,
secretive and criminal system of espionage
on the most honorable and progressive people
of his own land,
that later became the FBI.
Hoover was a Freemason.
That "hero" of yours
conspired with the mafia
and was regularly paid
by that very mafia
in form of winnings from the horse races,
that were specifically cooked up
for him to win.
He would be simply given the information
in advance what horse to play on,
and that horse
would inevitably bring any money he wanted.
Another interesting thing
about that Masonic criminal
was his extra marital affairs with
men, all done in secret.
Is THAT how your "heroes" operate?
Another Freemason was Lyndon Johnson.
Now, who was responsible
for the murder of Kennedy again?
What happened to the wounds on his head
when the body was flown
from one place to another?
Well, the holes were completely different
than they were before.
Has ANYBODY found ANYTHING about it?
Nope, not to this day!
How is it possible?
Now, WHO was the head investigator on his murder?
Well, another Freemason. Remember?
Warren commission.
Edgar Warren was a Freemason.
What a surprise,
what a surprise.
He made certain orders
to prevent full and unbiased investigation
of about the most horrendous murder
in the entire history of the USA.
Who was Prescott Bush,
the grandfather of your pigmy *****,
ruling the house of the white mouse?
Well, one of the most radical
and ferocious Freemasons
in the entire history,
only on the par with Albert Pike,
one of the most "honorable" Freemasons there are.
Heard of KKK?
"I took my obligations from white men,
not from negroes. When I have to accept
negroes as brothers or leave masonry,
I shall leave it"
- Albert Pike 33rd*
Delmar D. Darrah
History and Evolution of Freemasonry 1954, page 329.
The Charles T Powner Co.
"General Albert Pike, who stood high in the
Masonic order, was the chief judicial officer
of the Klan."
As owner-publisher of the Memphis, Tennessee,
Daily Appeal, Albert Pike wrote in an editorial
on April 16, 1868:
"With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the
administration of justice becomes a blasphemous
mockery.
...
We would unite every white man in the South,
who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one
great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an
organization complete, active, vigorous,
in which a few should execute the concentrated
will of all, and whose very existence should be
concealed from all but its members."
Pike became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.
Pike only returned to the U.S. after
his hand picked Scottish Rite Succsessor
James Richardon 33� got a pardon for him after,
making President Jackson a 33� Scottish Mason
in a ceremony held inside the White House itself!
Welcome, USONA (United States Of North America),
as the people of the South America call you.
How about the murder of Dr. Marin Luther King?
Ever heard?
Now, you, conmen, even have a holiday in his name,
huh?
But it is ALL fake,
and you know it, don't you?
You are just using the same trick,
the same decoy,
the same lies,
the same perversions and deceit,
just as you always do.
You don't "care", or do you?
How many of you truly care about
Dr. Martin Luther King?
No one is going to argue
the issue of terrorism
being the problem in the world.
But...
First of all, the very roots of it
need to be examined and they may
turn out to be quite different
then what you are being fed.
When justice is only applicable to
one party and not the other,
and that other party tried all
it can to resolve it and all in vain,
then you have the seeds of terrorism
sown with your own hand.
That is how it is.
Yes, in some cases, the reason may be some manifestation
of radical nationalism or religious fanaticism and
intolerance, leading to fanatic violence.
But not in all the cases by far.
There are ways to handle the issues of terrorism.
There is United Nations, Security Council
and other international organizations,
treaties and conventions.
The international terrorism
can not be resolved just to facilitate one empire,
and the evilest empire of all,
no matter what kind of cunning tricks
of guilt and fear manipulation
they use to suck-in the whole world
into this grand scam
to promote the world terror of totalitarianism
played by the servants of the beast.
It needs to be resolved according to the principles
of the international affairs
and not as a trigger happy Texan cowboy style.
Because it may end up costing WAY too much
to the whole world at the end.
It is a matter concerning the whole world
and it needs to be carefully studied,
and analyzed by the most intelligent
and insightful people of the world.
They need to come to a joint conclusion
and provide their recommendations
on how to solve this issue.
Because it can not be solved
to facilitate the interests
of a single empire,
no matter what kind of campaigns
of lies and deceit they use,
those servants of the beast.
The root causes of it need to be examined
and the attempts to resolve it in a constructive
manner need to be created.
According to some of the most insightful views,
the sword is not the way to do it.
After all, is THAT how you solve the disputes
in business or any other activities in your societies?
Do you go to a business meeting and put a gun on
the table of negotiations?
Or you work things out
to make sure both parties can live with it?
Then how come you go with a gun to solve these
problems?
Oh, there is simply no other way to solve it, huh?
Oh yes, there are.
You haven't even tried to look at them,
because YOU want to remain on the top of all
and dictate your evil will
with the power of the sword.
Yes, dictate, just as you do here, on usenet,
in the most propagated hierarchy there is,
big-8, ruled by the same exact fascists and
totalitarian dictators.
You are not even interested in having a fair deal.
Just give "evil Saddam" some computers to bring
up the level of Iraqi people to the world standards.
Give them some contracts.
Send some education people to help them catch up
with the "modern" world. It will help them,
and it will help you. You will even make money
on that thing at the end and you know it
ALL too well.
After all, who fed Saddam for as long, as you did?
Remember?
The same scam as with Bin Laden.
The same scam that you ALWAYS use
throughout the world
to overturn the governments
and install your puppets,
violating your own principles
and international conventions,
supporting the murderers and terrorists
and doing all sorts of other
not so noble things you do.
Just the other day, the information has been
revealed that the plane crash in Scotland
in the 80s was a setup. Later on, Libya was
accused of hiding those alleged terrorists
and all sorts of sanctions were imposed against
Libya to bring it to its knees.
But the underlying reasons for that scam were...
Well, one of the largest oil feels in the world,
found in Libya. Also, there is a project to build the
oil pipeline from Turkmenistan via Afghanistan
to serve the US interests.
So, the same evil monsters staged that whole "operation"
just to get their hands on one of the largest oil fields
in the world and the pipeline? Exciting, ain't it?
Would be interesting to see if any more details
on that whole "deal" will ever appear in the world media.
Anybody wants to take a bet on it?
Yes, YOU, the evil empire,
promote that very terrorism,
you pretend to be fighting,
and even at this very moment,
while, with the other side
of your sucky lying input hole,
you are making all these sucking sounds.
One more time:
AT THIS VERY JUNCTION,
YOU ARE PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING TERRORISM,
AND YOU KNOW IT.
This whole thing in Afghanistan is but
a huge farce to get closer to the borders of Russia
for one thing, because...
Well, because you know it all too well,
according to the studies
of your own Offense Department,
which is what its true name is,
that about the only inhabitable place on Earth,
literally within the next 16 years,
will be...
Guess, monsters.
Yes, it will be Siberia in Russia.
THAT is where we are at.
THAT is EXACTLY why
you planted the top secret plans
of nuclear annihilation of Russia,
disclosed on the front cover
of your own major magazine
in the month of February,
just a couple of years ago.
Remember that talk with Putin?
"Look guys, you are telling everybody
the cold war is over, but this is the problem
I have with you".
And he showed them the front cover
of their own major magazine
with that very map
of nuclear annihilation of
of Russia and Ukraine.
Is THAT how friends behave towards one another?
Yes, that was a plant.
According to that monstrous plan,
all, most developed and densely populated areas
in Russia and Ukraine, were marked as the red hot zone
of nuclear annihilation.
The estimated damages,
even according to your own estimates are?
Well, just some stinky 20 million people!
What?
Hitler is turning in his grave.
He is simply jealous!
But that was a decoy again, Freemasons.
Ever heard of the Bohemian Club?
The rulers of the world?
Some of your top politicians, businessmen,
members of government, supreme court,
military and "intelligence"
by invitation only,
discussing the "hottest opportunities"
in the whole world?
Poor you,
poor you.
The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.
July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.
"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"
July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court
July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld
Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:
Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"
John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"
But the real thing still remains secret,
at least as these monsters think,
and that is...
The nuclear attack on this scale
can not be carried out
without completely devastating
the environmental situation,
effectively ending life
on the planet Earth,
and you KNOW it ALL TOO WELL.
Zo...
What was that plan about then?
Simple, perverts.
To weaken Russia and make them paranoid
so they spend all the money
on strengthening their nuclear arsenal
to oppose you.
Then hit them at the weakest point.
That is what kind of a chess game you play.
But the real attack would be...
Well, biological.
Yes, biological.
Forget all these international conventions
and treaties of all kinds.
ALL fake.
That way, you do not have to destroy the infrastructure
or cause a tremendous impact on global environment.
It simply remains intact,
but those "inferior race" Russians
just simply go poof.
Nice show, ain't it?
Because you need to move to Siberia,
the largest piece of real estate
in the coldest region of the Earth,
and the time is near.
It takes time to build a new infrastructure,
and you have but 16 years left.
THAT is why,
that is why,
you see what you see
on the idiot box,
you all call TV,
feeding you all sorts of the lowest grade *****
and the most horrendous kinds of violence
just to dumben you all
and convert you into bio-robots,
the functional machines,
used by the fattest parasites there are
just to become fatter
and fatter
and fatter.
Zo...
What are these sucking sounds going on right
now about "new cooperation" and "new deal"
of "friendship" with Russia?
Well, ask Freemasons.
ALL fake.
PURE FAKE,
and NOTHING BUT FAKE.
You will NEVER EVER relinquish
your reign and allow any other country
to be on the equal footing with you,
either in terms of military might,
or commerce and business,
technology or anything else for that matter.
So evil you are at the very core.
Because you are ruled by the beast.
That is all there is to it.
You don't believe a single word you say
and ANY and ALL "agreements"
anybody signed with you
is just a check,
signed with an ink
that will simply vanish one day.
Yes, NONE of your so called agreements
are worth ANYTHING.
You are bankrupt.
You have a tremendous negative bank balance
from ANY angle you look at it,
and some things you can still manage
to keep "top secret".
Look at, monsters,
it isn't even funny at this junction.
All your so called secrets
are utterly transparent.
One more time,
to Freemasons and all those,
who share the same views and beliefs:
WHAT YOU THINK YOU HOLD ON YOUR HANDS
AS TREMENDOUS WEALTH
IS DUST,
AND NOTHING BUT DUST.
How many times do you have to be reminded?
Another lil thing: you were told to keep
NASDAQ at below 1500. It is around 2000 now.
You were forewarned.
Your entire economic system globally,
may collapse in no time at all.
Why are you so suicidal?
Now, as far as the Arab world goes.
After all, this is YOU,
who kept not only Iraqi,
but all Arab lands, under the lid.
It is YOU, who divided their lands
and imposed YOUR version of the universe
upon these people.
Sure, some local dictators
will forever do the same thing,
but even Stalin and the people of his kind,
would deal with you, suckers,
at least for the purpose of trying
to assert his own nation
as an equal partner
in the world affairs
and improve their economies.
But you refused it all. You want to be the
ONLY one that counts, rules, dominates and
dictates.
But you are fake.
You are but a horrendous fraud on a global scale.
Because you are but the blood sucking suckitalists
and you do not wish ANY other model of the universe
to become a reality,
but the model of sucking the blood
of many by the few.
That is why you conducted a relentless campaign
against the experiment in Rajneeshpuram, Oregon,
the experiment to create a new model of society
where people could live rejoicing and celebrating
every single moment, working for themselves
in freedom and harmony with nature.
But that model was not based on suckitalism
and, worst of all, it was beginning to look like
it was working.
So you, monsters, destroyed it all.
Some of the most powerful and influential representatives
of your corrupt systems including the royal crown,
the founder of Nike Shoes Company, Bill Bowerman,
that drug addict, who was getting off on sniffing
a glue, who lived nearby, the president Reagan,
your corrupt media moguls, all were doing all they
can to destroy that very experiment for at least
5 years until they eventually succeeded
as they ALWAYS do.
You even throw those people, who made you
filthy rich, on the streets, like used condoms.
Rotten to the bone and marrow
is the verdict.
How many conflicts and wars Russia started in the world
since the WWII?
How many wars truly evil empire started?
Well, the factors of magnitude more.
Not only that, but this whole scam in Afghanistan,
was a result of YOUR work.
YOU were pumping this conflict
and helping the same Bin Laden
to penetrate Russia from the south.
YOU fed this whole thing.
YOU gave them money.
YOU gave them weapons.
YOU gave them nearly all they've got.
Why?
Well, because you are not interested in Afghanistan
or the people of that land.
You are interested in RUSSIA.
Why?
Because, for one thing,
they represent the biggest challenge
to your global domination.
YOU want to be the ONLY "superpower" there is,
so you can dictate your evil will upon all
and rule the planet Earth, serving the beast.
Isn't THAT how the story goes?
At the time of operation in Afganistan,
the evidence was not there about Bin Laden's involvement,
or the extent of participation of various parties,
or the underlying reasons for it all.
Only some CIA and NSA fabrications and usual lies.
True information is likely to be kept
in the topmost secret archives
for another 40 years,
if the mankind manages
to survive to that time.
At that time, no one would give a flying dead chicken
about what happened 40 years ago.
Sure, they'd be making some hissing sounds indeed,
but this senile/infantile Bush
might as well be dead by then,
and all his vicious top brass in government,
that happen to be some of the most radical
and the most warring Zealots
and Freemasons you can find,
is so old, they'd be dead pretty soon anyways.
Who are you going to bring to justice,
if ever?
Who would give a flying dead chicken about it
in 40 years from now?
Just the other day,
the ABC released some 40 year old
top secret information.
It says that the same criminals
from the CIA and NSA
planned a destruction of their own navy ships
and killing of plenty of their own people,
just to fabricate the case
that it was done by Cuba,
in order to start
another thread of global escalation,
violence and destruction.
Mind you, the evilest empire that ever was,
the united sucking states,
started more wars since the WWII
than all the other countries of the world combined.
They always blame others,
but end up being the military aggressors themselves,
using all sorts of tricks and lies,
deceit and fabrications,
they forever use.
So, that kinda covers the issue
of "WEALLY wesponsible people
like Russ Allbery,
that worm, calling himself an eagle,
insulting the highest symbol of his own land,
doing it again in Afghanistan".
Interestingly enough, the New World Order concept was
announced when?
Well, it was announced at the time of the conflict in Iraq.
Why?
Well, because Bush, the senior,
by that time,
knew that the newest military weaponry
was ready to be tested
in the "real life" situation.
It was:
1. "Smart bombs", that are dumb enough to hit the
Chinese embassy in Belgrade, "just to show them
who they are".
2. Stealth technology in bombers and fighters.
3. Advanced system of global electronic espionage,
all linked up in real time, able to identify the
objects of less than a couple of feet in size
any place on Earth any time of the day or night.
So, if that whole thing was working, then...
Well, then OBVIOUSLY, the "new world order"
has arrived.
That is why that slimy Bush,
a trigger happy monster,
went as far as violate the secret
agreement among Illuminati
and announced the New World Order
about 30 years before it was to be announced.
It is likely to have been a sabotage
within the Illuminati spheres of influence.
In the Illuminati world government the USA
was not to be the number one player in the world.
They were supposed to be not even on the second place.
But Russia and China was.
So, the Texan cowboy pulled the trigger most likely.
That was about the most scandalous proclamation possible.
Now it became the living evidence of this whole grand
scam of a single world government, ruled by Illuminati
and Freemasons.
Isn't that how the story goes?
Zo...
Then there was this dirty trick with "Evil" Saddam,
when he was trapped in order to be used as the first
real warfare exercise to test the concept of NWO
and show to the whole world "who is your daddy",
a typical bully tactic of a Texas cowboy,
used by the evil empire since the day one.
Now, I betcha all the "intelligence" agencies
in the world, CIA, NSA, KGB,
and offense department,
have ceased their operations.
Because they are all falling on their asses,
having fun reading this lil piece of poetry here.
Have fun, munkstas.
Acharya Veeren treats.
There are zome other nice presents,
stashed away in some nice places,
to make sure you are kept
properly enter-
tained.
Not to worry.
Now...
Iraq was a perfect test field for several reasons.
First of all, it was a perfect excuse.
The Iraqi army has become the third largest army
in the world, which was pissing off the evilest empire,
because they did not want to loose the grip
"in the area where we have our interests", the
Middle East.
You see, the evil empire needs no other justification
to do ANYTHING it pleases beyond the concept of
"it is in our interest", no matter what region
of the planet we are talking about.
Because it is ALL "theirs"!
No law, no international principles or agreements,
or anything else is needed for them.
They are so blatantly arrogant
and so cunning and violent,
that they do not even bother
to consider the very agreements they signed.
All the other countries that signed ANY agreements
with these monsters were, are and will be routinely
screwed ANY way these cowboys and monsters want.
There is just unlimited number of tricks available,
and, most of all,
the most potent foundation of Masonic heritage,
based the mastership of manipulation of symbology
since the ancient times.
When you see the debates between the right
wing monsters and their opposition, the
skills of manipulation, fabrication, lies
and deceit are simply obvi