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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Defendario"
Date: 02 Sep 2007 10:18:15 PM
Object: Re: Is Iran a threat?
8-) analysis of geopolitics, Raymond. TY for sharing.
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Raymond wrote:

On Sep 2, 5:16 pm, Gene <W...@Me.com> wrote:

Christian Williamson <c.wi...@verizon.net> wrote in news:YEDCi.650$6T5=

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@trnddc06:



Not in any way, if you read some posters here. Not only that, they ar=

e

telling us that the US is going to attack Iran for Israel.

Iran is not a threat to America. And they will never be. The real thre=

at to

America is a generation of scared shitless repugs that toss rights out=

the

window when a patriot would stand firm and not change our system >beca=

use of a few ragheads that still live in the dark ages.

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Iran is no more a threat to America.than Iraq was. It is Israel that
is the greatest threat to America's survival.
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Our real government is in Israel. We are all Jews now.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/ij_ch8.htm
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Jones_Palestine.htm
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It is doubtful that the United States will take part in the bombing of
Iran despite the war rhetoric. It is Isreal beating the drums for war
and it is understandable as to why. Israel is the enemy of the entire
Arab/Muslim world of over one billion people. Should Israel, or the
United States attack Iran, the Arabs and Muslims, who are not
presently on friendly terms with each other, will unite and make life
unbearable for the Jews and any Americans presently in the Middle
East. Talking tough and threatning the rest of the world by greedy
warmongering Americans is no longer acceptable to the enemies of the
American Empire and the Jews in Palestine.
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Even our alleged ally, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, whose governments are
really frightened about Iranian power, their publics do not define
Iran as the major threat --- and the Egyptian people will not support
their American puppet leaders. Syria, Lebanon, and even Jordan will
take the side of Iran if Iran is attacked. Who is left to defend the
Jews ? Even the majority of the American people do not want an
expansion of war in the area. We can't even win in Iraq, a country
that we bombed for over ten years before invading.
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Americans are tired of war and want it ended. We have problems at home
that must be addressed with money being spent to provide oil and
protection to Israel---no real friend of the Americans.
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"War is a quarrel between two thieves too cowardly to fight their own
battle; therefore they take boys from one village and another village,
stick them into uniforms, equip them with guns, and let them loose
like wild beasts against each other."
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-Thomas Carlyle
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"Nuke em" is the standard comment by those who will not be sent to
occupy the Iranian oil fields and try to keep the Iranians from
closing the Strait of Hormuz The Strait of Hormuz (26=B034'0.00"N,
56=B015'0.00"E) a narrow passageway connecting the Persian Gulf with th=

e

Arabian Sea and separating Iran from the Arabian Peninsula, is one of
the world's vital oil transit chokepoints. The northern tip of the
United Arab Emirates (UAE) forms the southern shoreline of the strait.
The UAE, officially created in 1971, is a constitutional federation
made up of Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman, Umm al-Quaiwain, Ras al-
Khaimah and Fujairah. The narrow strait connects the Persian Gulf with
the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea. The Strait consists of 2-mile
wide channels for inbound and outbound tanker traffic, as well as a 2-
mile wide buffer zone.
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Two-thirds of the world's oil is transported by ocean; straits and
canals are therefore vital in reducing the time and costs of
transporting oil, as well as other goods, globally. Any political
disturbances or upheavals can cause the "choking" of the few important
straits for world oil transit and thus disrupt world oil prices.
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The abundance of oil and the world's dependence on imported oil from
this region make the Strait of Hormuz one of the most important
chokepoints to monitor. The strait has a width of 54 km (34 miles) and
is consequently a relatively EASY passageway to obstruct. Roughly 17
million billion barrels per day (bbl/d) or 40% of world's oil passes
through this strait daily.
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The UAE and Iran, along with the rest of the Persian Gulf countries
(Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia), produced 27% of the
world's oil in 2003 and collectively hold more than half of the
world's total oil reserves, as reported by the Energy Information
Administration (EIA). Organization for Economic Co-operation and
Development (OECD) countries import the majority of their oil from the
Persian Gulf; in 2003, 11.6 million barrels per day were exported to
OECD countries. The majority of oil leaving this region passes through
the Strait of Hormuz. America cannot afford to take the chance that
Iran will close the Strait. So, why risk it for the sake of the state
of Israel ?
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Petroleum is the single most important commodity in today's world. Our
dependence on this resource can be felt in the way society reacts to
even minor shifts in oil markets. With demand and consumption
increasing, mankind's dependence on oil only continues to grow. Our
dependence is such, that any minor interference in the production or
distribution of oil has profound economic and political consequences.
Because oil being exported through the Strait of Hormuz is projected
to increase, ensuring the flow of oil through this hostile region will
continue to be a crucial issue in the years to come.
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SEE:
http://www.eoearth.org/article/Strait_of_Hormuz
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No Crissy, going to war without the top 50% of the country sharing the=
burden in any way, and without the ramp up of our industries to suppor=

t

things like body armor, and without any noticable plan and without muc=

h

support from the regions leaders is about the stupidest policy my coun=

try

has ever done.

Odd how you nitwits fail to digest that bit of truth. =20

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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much li=

berty

than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

"History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and mistakes of
conservatives." - ETG

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