| Topic: |
Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"Raymond Karczewski" |
| Date: |
12 Jun 2006 01:36:59 PM |
| Object: |
Re: Is the Internet a Viable Environment for Spiritual Dialogue? |
Re: Is the Internet a Viable Environment for Spiritual Dialogue?
Judi Rhodes wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
jh: > An atmosphere of intimacy, safe harbor, is conducive to
openness, understanding.
jh: > Like I said, this is my living room, this is not the town
square.
jh: > If you're looking for "fame", do it someplace else.
jh: > Please understand or leave.
jh: > Judi
rk: Hell, judi, I already said bye-bye, then you launch on your
face-saving campaign by issuing three articles isolating my comments
out of context. Where is the fairness in that?
rk: Judi, you displayed that you are a heavy-handed aspiring cult
leader who wears a velvet glove.
rk: I subscribed to dialogue on your forum. Even before I posted my
first article, you issued a threat that you were putting me on
moderation if I didn't hurry up and post something. What's up with
that?
rk: Do you treat all of your subscribers that way? At any rate, I
engaged you in dialogue and observed the subtle traps you began to set
along the way, making it clear there was to be no truly open dialogue
possible, as your rules stood in the way. I did not find you open,
but rather defensive and arbitrary in your dictum. We engaged in a
conversation that can best be described as "apples and oranges" with
no possibility of reaching an understanding. Repeatedly you reminded
me and other subscribers that it was YOUR FORUM. I got it the first
time, yet you repeated it several times. Quite frankly, it reeked of
the Power Trip quest for fame that you seem to want to project onto
me.
rk:>> If one cannot stand up under the assault of those who would
enslave them through fear, intimidation, and/or deceit, they cannot be
holistic human beings; and therefore FREEDOM becomes a hypocrite's
superficial subject of endless and meaningless talk. The newsgroups
and forums are full of such empty discussion. When one's words are
one's actions, one lives and moves in Truth, Christ Consciousness. The
difference in energy is palpable.
jr: > ************** Psst, Ray, it's not about "standing up" to
"them", but rather, finally, at long last, "standing down".
rk: When one stands down to bullies, be it politicians, corporate
elitists, cops, judges, disinformation agents or forum hosts, one
capitulates to Satanic Power. At that point, their agenda is served.
A man of Truth does not start something, anything, that he does not
intend to finish, to bring closure to.
rk: Peace, Peace, may be desired, but when one stands down when Peace
is threatened, one shall never understand true Peace.
jr: > Under-standing is the ticket, Ray, it cannot be forced through
any action from without, actions are things of themselves, and not
understanding. A person can "blame" from now till the cows come
home, that is NOT under-standing and just more of the same
separatetist game.
jr: > And that pretty much wraps up our differences Ray.
rk: Judi, It is clear, at least to me, that you do not possess
UNDERSTANDING. Your energy does not resonate with the indisputable
nondualistic essence of UNDERSTANDING. You only possess a dualistic
(Satanic) intellectual grasp of the concept called understanding.
You've learned the words. You string them together sufficiently well
to put over on the victim-minded. You pander to the victim-minded
with schmoozy, positive image concepts which has been overused and
overworked by all mind controlling cult leaders, and that is where you
seem to want to be -- In Power - through the creation of an
organization of a private forum. That, judi, is the very nature of
Satanic control. .
jr: > Now, I've asked you to not post around, this is an intimate
private list, and that's the way I like it.
rk: No you didn't, Judi, You didn't ask me, YOU TOLD ME! See what I
mean about being heavy handed with a velvet glove? What do likes and
dislikes have to do with TRUTH? Do you not betray yourself with such
unconscious slips? Like and dislike are emotional tools used by
controllers to sway and manipulate the controlled. Satanic, isn't it?
jr: > If you can't heed my request I will remove you.
rk: See what I mean? Again, you reveal your true motives of power
acquisition by virtue of your position as Moderator. Such directives
are not requests. Your threats to remove another from your forum if
they will not capitulate to your spiritual dialogue-limiting fiefdom
are actions of an aspiring mind controlling tyrant, not a spiritually
sighted individual.
Judi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
From: Raymond Karczewski
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: [TheEndOfTheRopeRanch] Re: Is the Internet a Viable
Environment for Spiritual Dialogue?
jr: > There's a damn good reason why in the olden days, it wasn't done
out in the streets, with the masses.
rk: The "olden days" are dead. D-E-A-D! There is no life in the
past. It's all based in dead memories which the living dead attempt to
bring back to life. That is the temptation that dead knowledge plays
in approaching the LIVING TRUTH via dead methods.
jr: The reason being, my friend, is that you end up with nutballs
such as yourself.
rk: My, my, my, will the real Judi Rhodes, aspiring mind-controlling
moderator of "." please stand up?
jr: > Maturity is called for first.
jr: > Shades of SPV. A man on a mission. :-)
rk: So that's it. Psychological Transference? You see me through
the same "battered" eyes you viewed Stephen Vanier whom you were
associated with for years. Projecting him onto me, is your hangup,
not mine. You're playing your power trip with the wrong guy, aren't
you?
jr: > You're just slicker about it, but underneath, what's driving
it, is the same, still uninspected adolescent power trip, wrapped in
self-righteous clothes and not only self-righteous, but cranked up a
notch - now you're a man on a mission. :-)
rk: I post wherever I post to expose the ignorance of the average
mind controlled individual and those who seek to assert power over
such victim-minded.
rk: People who are stupid don't like to be told they are stupid.
rk: People who wish to keep people blind and stupid have an agenda of
power through which such stupid people/sheeple can be exploited.
rk: I have no organization, I merely expose such use of Satanic
power, and neither the leaders nor the led like it one bit. If you
want to call that a mission, you may.
jr: : All I can say is....Ray, Ray, Ray. :-)
Judi
rk: Now perhaps you understand why I post my articles far and wide on
the Internet.
rk: Perhaps you now understand why I post my articles to anyone who
has the spiritual eyes and ears to see and hear.
rk: Perhaps you now understand I will not, I do not, capitulate to
the limiting Satanic rules of any forum moderator who, through
positive imagery, can put out the fire of spiritual discovery when
such rules obeyed are designed to vampirically strip away the life
force of the individual through self-doubt, and "warm and fuzzy"
dictum.
rk: Judi, you are the "blind attempting to lead the blind."
rk: If you want Truth, You just got it. You may do with it what you
will.
***********************************************************
FOOLPROOF PLAN FOR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY
June 12, 2006: DAY 497
JOIN NATIONAL CORPORATE CONSUMERS BOYCOTT ALREADY IN
PROGRESS. Tis the peaceful Way to Show Corporate Government
Who's BOSS!
SEE: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch121.html#BOYCOTT
Do not surrender your guns: be prepared to use them
for Self-protection in the event Martial Law is
declared.
Begin IMPEACHMENT proceedings on President Bush and other TREASONOUS National Leaders.
DEMAND RESIGNATIONS FROM THE TOP DOWN.
***************************************************
In the NEXT TWO NATIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL ELECTIONS.
WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN! WITHOUT EXCEPTION, VOTE ALL
INCUMBENTS OUT -- ALL INCUMBENTS!
***************************************************
(FORGET THE ABOVE STATEMENT - AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE TWO NATIONAL ELECTIONS IN WHICH TO RESOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. THE TIME TO SOLVE THEM IS NOW!
REMOVE THE OLD. INSTALL THE NEW!
LET TRAITORS KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR CONTINUED EXPECTATION OF EMPLOYMENT WHILE CONDUCTING BUSINESS AS USUAL.
THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE HAVE ALREADY LEARNED THAT LESSON. They Stopped Coming to Work until it was safe to return.
It is time all SATANIC leadership learn the same harsh lesson which accompanies the loss of one's integrity.
DO YOUR PART! Put the FREE back into the LAND OF THE
FREE!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Simple Man of Truth
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the illusion based world of man's thought, there exist
healthy egos and unhealthy egos --visit my home page and
meet the unhealthy ego's worst nightmare!
http://www.arkenterprises.com
************************************************************
.
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| User: "gatt" |
|
| Title: Re: Is the Internet a Viable Environment for Spiritual Dialogue? |
12 Jun 2006 03:32:05 PM |
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Who's the leader of the cult that's made for you and me?
K-A-R
C-Z-E
W-S-K-I
Karcxzpth-atwski, karzcxh-whatski? (I dunno)
Forever let us spam our babble high, high (yeah, we're...)
Come along and be among his Great Conspiracy
K-A-R
C-Z-E
W-S-K-I
Hey there, hi there, HO there We're as whacked as we can be...
"Raymond Karczewski"
<arkent3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:448db425.136375585@news.west.earthlink.net...
Re: Is the Internet a Viable Environment for Spiritual Dialogue?
Judi Rhodes wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
jh: > An atmosphere of intimacy, safe harbor, is conducive to
openness, understanding.
jh: > Like I said, this is my living room, this is not the town
square.
jh: > If you're looking for "fame", do it someplace else.
jh: > Please understand or leave.
jh: > Judi
rk: Hell, judi, I already said bye-bye, then you launch on your
face-saving campaign by issuing three articles isolating my comments
out of context. Where is the fairness in that?
rk: Judi, you displayed that you are a heavy-handed aspiring cult
leader who wears a velvet glove.
rk: I subscribed to dialogue on your forum. Even before I posted my
first article, you issued a threat that you were putting me on
moderation if I didn't hurry up and post something. What's up with
that?
rk: Do you treat all of your subscribers that way? At any rate, I
engaged you in dialogue and observed the subtle traps you began to set
along the way, making it clear there was to be no truly open dialogue
possible, as your rules stood in the way. I did not find you open,
but rather defensive and arbitrary in your dictum. We engaged in a
conversation that can best be described as "apples and oranges" with
no possibility of reaching an understanding. Repeatedly you reminded
me and other subscribers that it was YOUR FORUM. I got it the first
time, yet you repeated it several times. Quite frankly, it reeked of
the Power Trip quest for fame that you seem to want to project onto
me.
rk:>> If one cannot stand up under the assault of those who would
enslave them through fear, intimidation, and/or deceit, they cannot be
holistic human beings; and therefore FREEDOM becomes a hypocrite's
superficial subject of endless and meaningless talk. The newsgroups
and forums are full of such empty discussion. When one's words are
one's actions, one lives and moves in Truth, Christ Consciousness. The
difference in energy is palpable.
jr: > ************** Psst, Ray, it's not about "standing up" to
"them", but rather, finally, at long last, "standing down".
rk: When one stands down to bullies, be it politicians, corporate
elitists, cops, judges, disinformation agents or forum hosts, one
capitulates to Satanic Power. At that point, their agenda is served.
A man of Truth does not start something, anything, that he does not
intend to finish, to bring closure to.
rk: Peace, Peace, may be desired, but when one stands down when Peace
is threatened, one shall never understand true Peace.
jr: > Under-standing is the ticket, Ray, it cannot be forced through
any action from without, actions are things of themselves, and not
understanding. A person can "blame" from now till the cows come
home, that is NOT under-standing and just more of the same
separatetist game.
jr: > And that pretty much wraps up our differences Ray.
rk: Judi, It is clear, at least to me, that you do not possess
UNDERSTANDING. Your energy does not resonate with the indisputable
nondualistic essence of UNDERSTANDING. You only possess a dualistic
(Satanic) intellectual grasp of the concept called understanding.
You've learned the words. You string them together sufficiently well
to put over on the victim-minded. You pander to the victim-minded
with schmoozy, positive image concepts which has been overused and
overworked by all mind controlling cult leaders, and that is where you
seem to want to be -- In Power - through the creation of an
organization of a private forum. That, judi, is the very nature of
Satanic control. .
jr: > Now, I've asked you to not post around, this is an intimate
private list, and that's the way I like it.
rk: No you didn't, Judi, You didn't ask me, YOU TOLD ME! See what I
mean about being heavy handed with a velvet glove? What do likes and
dislikes have to do with TRUTH? Do you not betray yourself with such
unconscious slips? Like and dislike are emotional tools used by
controllers to sway and manipulate the controlled. Satanic, isn't it?
jr: > If you can't heed my request I will remove you.
rk: See what I mean? Again, you reveal your true motives of power
acquisition by virtue of your position as Moderator. Such directives
are not requests. Your threats to remove another from your forum if
they will not capitulate to your spiritual dialogue-limiting fiefdom
are actions of an aspiring mind controlling tyrant, not a spiritually
sighted individual.
Judi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
From: Raymond Karczewski
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: [TheEndOfTheRopeRanch] Re: Is the Internet a Viable
Environment for Spiritual Dialogue?
jr: > There's a damn good reason why in the olden days, it wasn't done
out in the streets, with the masses.
rk: The "olden days" are dead. D-E-A-D! There is no life in the
past. It's all based in dead memories which the living dead attempt to
bring back to life. That is the temptation that dead knowledge plays
in approaching the LIVING TRUTH via dead methods.
jr: The reason being, my friend, is that you end up with nutballs
such as yourself.
rk: My, my, my, will the real Judi Rhodes, aspiring mind-controlling
moderator of "." please stand up?
jr: > Maturity is called for first.
jr: > Shades of SPV. A man on a mission. :-)
rk: So that's it. Psychological Transference? You see me through
the same "battered" eyes you viewed Stephen Vanier whom you were
associated with for years. Projecting him onto me, is your hangup,
not mine. You're playing your power trip with the wrong guy, aren't
you?
jr: > You're just slicker about it, but underneath, what's driving
it, is the same, still uninspected adolescent power trip, wrapped in
self-righteous clothes and not only self-righteous, but cranked up a
notch - now you're a man on a mission. :-)
rk: I post wherever I post to expose the ignorance of the average
mind controlled individual and those who seek to assert power over
such victim-minded.
rk: People who are stupid don't like to be told they are stupid.
rk: People who wish to keep people blind and stupid have an agenda of
power through which such stupid people/sheeple can be exploited.
rk: I have no organization, I merely expose such use of Satanic
power, and neither the leaders nor the led like it one bit. If you
want to call that a mission, you may.
jr: : All I can say is....Ray, Ray, Ray. :-)
Judi
rk: Now perhaps you understand why I post my articles far and wide on
the Internet.
rk: Perhaps you now understand why I post my articles to anyone who
has the spiritual eyes and ears to see and hear.
rk: Perhaps you now understand I will not, I do not, capitulate to
the limiting Satanic rules of any forum moderator who, through
positive imagery, can put out the fire of spiritual discovery when
such rules obeyed are designed to vampirically strip away the life
force of the individual through self-doubt, and "warm and fuzzy"
dictum.
rk: Judi, you are the "blind attempting to lead the blind."
rk: If you want Truth, You just got it. You may do with it what you
will.
***********************************************************
FOOLPROOF PLAN FOR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY
June 12, 2006: DAY 497
JOIN NATIONAL CORPORATE CONSUMERS BOYCOTT ALREADY IN
PROGRESS. Tis the peaceful Way to Show Corporate Government
Who's BOSS!
SEE: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch121.html#BOYCOTT
Do not surrender your guns: be prepared to use them
for Self-protection in the event Martial Law is
declared.
Begin IMPEACHMENT proceedings on President Bush and other TREASONOUS
National Leaders.
DEMAND RESIGNATIONS FROM THE TOP DOWN.
***************************************************
In the NEXT TWO NATIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL ELECTIONS.
WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN! WITHOUT EXCEPTION, VOTE ALL
INCUMBENTS OUT -- ALL INCUMBENTS!
***************************************************
(FORGET THE ABOVE STATEMENT - AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE TWO NATIONAL ELECTIONS
IN WHICH TO RESOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. THE TIME TO SOLVE THEM IS NOW!
REMOVE THE OLD. INSTALL THE NEW!
LET TRAITORS KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR CONTINUED EXPECTATION OF
EMPLOYMENT WHILE CONDUCTING BUSINESS AS USUAL.
THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE HAVE ALREADY LEARNED THAT LESSON. They Stopped
Coming to Work until it was safe to return.
It is time all SATANIC leadership learn the same harsh lesson which
accompanies the loss of one's integrity.
DO YOUR PART! Put the FREE back into the LAND OF THE
FREE!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Simple Man of Truth
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the illusion based world of man's thought, there exist
healthy egos and unhealthy egos --visit my home page and
meet the unhealthy ego's worst nightmare!
http://www.arkenterprises.com
************************************************************
.
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| User: "UffDa!" |
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| Title: Re: Is the Internet a Viable Environment for Spiritual Dialogue? |
12 Jun 2006 03:36:36 PM |
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gatt wrote:
Who's the leader of the cult that's made for you and me?
K-A-R
C-Z-E
W-S-K-I
Karcxzpth-atwski, karzcxh-whatski? (I dunno)
Forever let us spam our babble high, high (yeah, we're...)
Come along and be among his Great Conspiracy
K-A-R
C-Z-E
W-S-K-I
Hey there, hi there, HO there We're as whacked as we can be...
For a while I thought he was just acting...I was wrong. He's a nut.
Or is it k00k?
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