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"John Lurch Kerry" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:20:57 AM |
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Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
"S B" <stuartbrook@mail.ru> wrote in message
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ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in message
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On 4 Jun 2004 17:31:58 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in
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On 4 Jun 2004 16:28:29 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip for brevity>
The rules have always bent for the senior commanders. Why does
anyone think this is a big deal now. Are the anti-bush folks this
desperate?
Did you say the same thing when Clinton was impeached for having sex
in the Oval Office?
Clinton was not impeached for having sex. He was impeached for
making
a flase sworn statement about it. If you can't get such a little
thing right, why should nayone pay attention to your comments on
bigger things?
But I thought you said the rules were different for senior commanders.
But hey, I thought your subtle ad hominem attack was very
original...NOT.
It wasn't an attack. I was merely stating a fact. If someone can not
tell me the time of day, why should I believe them when they tell me
it is sunny outside at midnight.
you really should start attending a mosque dude ;)
He's probably the LEADER of one already....
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
05 Jun 2004 11:46:06 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:20:57 GMT, "John 'Lurch' Kerry"
<BirdFlippingKerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"S B" <stuartbrook@mail.ru> wrote in message
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ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:<ajm1c0d3mh9p72lgrihct0ld5mo8vhli1d@4ax.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 17:31:58 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in
news:via1c09p3q51nc7chgi8t6pt4re69rtau9@4ax.com:
On 4 Jun 2004 16:28:29 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip for brevity>
The rules have always bent for the senior commanders. Why does
anyone think this is a big deal now. Are the anti-bush folks this
desperate?
Did you say the same thing when Clinton was impeached for having sex
in the Oval Office?
Clinton was not impeached for having sex. He was impeached for
making
a flase sworn statement about it. If you can't get such a little
thing right, why should nayone pay attention to your comments on
bigger things?
But I thought you said the rules were different for senior commanders.
But hey, I thought your subtle ad hominem attack was very
original...NOT.
It wasn't an attack. I was merely stating a fact. If someone can not
tell me the time of day, why should I believe them when they tell me
it is sunny outside at midnight.
you really should start attending a mosque dude ;)
He's probably the LEADER of one already....
The leader of our "mosque,' the Pope, just ripped President Bush a new
***** for his sins.
Did you catch that?
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| User: "Erik A. Mattila" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
05 Jun 2004 06:30:17 PM |
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George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:20:57 GMT, "John 'Lurch' Kerry"
<BirdFlippingKerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"S B" <stuartbrook@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:8072a786.0406050453.476451c3@posting.google.com...
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:<ajm1c0d3mh9p72lgrihct0ld5mo8vhli1d@4ax.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 17:31:58 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in
news:via1c09p3q51nc7chgi8t6pt4re69rtau9@4ax.com:
On 4 Jun 2004 16:28:29 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip for brevity>
The rules have always bent for the senior commanders. Why does
anyone think this is a big deal now. Are the anti-bush folks this
desperate?
Did you say the same thing when Clinton was impeached for having sex
in the Oval Office?
Clinton was not impeached for having sex. He was impeached for
making
a flase sworn statement about it. If you can't get such a little
thing right, why should nayone pay attention to your comments on
bigger things?
But I thought you said the rules were different for senior commanders.
But hey, I thought your subtle ad hominem attack was very
original...NOT.
It wasn't an attack. I was merely stating a fact. If someone can not
tell me the time of day, why should I believe them when they tell me
it is sunny outside at midnight.
you really should start attending a mosque dude ;)
He's probably the LEADER of one already....
The leader of our "mosque,' the Pope, just ripped President Bush a new
***** for his sins.
Did you catch that?
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
eam
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
05 Jun 2004 08:16:36 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 16:30:17 -0700, "Erik A. Mattila"
<emattila@oco.net> wrote:
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:20:57 GMT, "John 'Lurch' Kerry"
<BirdFlippingKerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"S B" <stuartbrook@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:8072a786.0406050453.476451c3@posting.google.com...
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:<ajm1c0d3mh9p72lgrihct0ld5mo8vhli1d@4ax.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 17:31:58 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
ProudOleMilitaryMan <colinrayefan1@alltel.net> wrote in
news:via1c09p3q51nc7chgi8t6pt4re69rtau9@4ax.com:
On 4 Jun 2004 16:28:29 GMT, "Flip-Flop Bush"
<bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip for brevity>
The rules have always bent for the senior commanders. Why does
anyone think this is a big deal now. Are the anti-bush folks this
desperate?
Did you say the same thing when Clinton was impeached for having sex
in the Oval Office?
Clinton was not impeached for having sex. He was impeached for
making
a flase sworn statement about it. If you can't get such a little
thing right, why should nayone pay attention to your comments on
bigger things?
But I thought you said the rules were different for senior commanders.
But hey, I thought your subtle ad hominem attack was very
original...NOT.
It wasn't an attack. I was merely stating a fact. If someone can not
tell me the time of day, why should I believe them when they tell me
it is sunny outside at midnight.
you really should start attending a mosque dude ;)
He's probably the LEADER of one already....
The leader of our "mosque,' the Pope, just ripped President Bush a new
***** for his sins.
Did you catch that?
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
My religion is science, and though I admire those who do good in the
name of religion, I laugh at the beliefs. But in college, as part of
financial aid, I worked in the library shelving magazines. Some were
Catholic magazines with a lot on ethics. You know, they are very
sophisticated. And the writings of the church, before the war, were
models of wonderful ethical reasoning. I admire the Pope very much,
and the ethical teachings he represents.
And I suppose that's true for the other religions also.
BUt i'ts an easy call to condemn President Bush. Virtually everyone on
earth disapproves. So we don't need to give too much credit to this
Pope, the guy who brought down the evil empire.
I read about the Pope going back to Poland, after being gone 18
months, meeting the brutal leader. The reporters noted that this
brutal leader, so feared, had his knees shaking as he waited for the
Pope to speak. He knew this Pope could with his moral authority just
crush him, could show the people that he did not deserve to lead.
That story was in one wondering if President Bush's knees would be
knocking.
I doubt he knows enough to understand the power of the Pope's ideas.
eam
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| User: "Bob" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:40:40 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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05 Jun 2004 10:11:50 PM |
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
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| User: "Erik A. Mattila" |
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06 Jun 2004 10:39:53 AM |
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George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Well, mine was a simple tounge-in-cheek jab...I don't really think the
Pope is senile at all. Certainly aged and infirm, but he's really done
nothing to make us believe his mind is in any way addled, at least to my
knowledge. I think you're right about the "consensus" idea, that the
Pope is speaking to the collective wisdom of the Church. But my jab, at
the Pope's expense, was really to underscore a very simple proposition
that anyone can understand - again which you've expressed well. And the
point of the jab is that guys like Bob just don't get it. The
ideological swill that is addling the minds of the Bushists is so strong
that it puts simple reason and logic by the wayside - trashes it, if you
will. It's the disassociation of the logic of means and ends that is
common with ideological abuse again - where ends justify means even if
the means emulate the factor that the ideological motive seeks to
suppress. Another example that shows us that "Moral Clarity" is neither
"moral" or "clear" - but simply opportunistic.
Erik
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| User: "RH" |
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| Title: Re: In Iraq Gas .05 Cents/Gallon Thanks to US Taxpayers.. |
07 Jun 2004 09:22:52 AM |
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Response below quoted from an anonymous high gov't official:
"Nobody (who matters) cares about high gas prices. Only the little
people fuss about that - they're a bunch of worthless peasants who
can't even afford to pay cash for their homes and motor vehicles. If
they had brains they'd be among the elite - those with millions or
billions stashed away - who make up Bush's base. The people of true
excellence."
Kno-Buddy <Kno-buddy@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gasoline Costs 5 Cents a Gallon in Iraq Thanks to US Taxpayers...
/Associated Press/
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0606-04.htm
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More Questions for the Bush Regime:
An estimated 15,000 Iraqi women and children have been killed by the
US military in the past 2 years. Why is it official US policy NOT to
count civilian casualties in Iraq? Would it be too embarrassing?
"Exactly. Anything that would cause the great white chiefs in
washington "extreme embarrassment" that can be hidden from the public,
is classified as top secret and kept under wraps. That's nothing new."
Maybe
make it harder to call the soldier boys "heros" and thus to recruit
young boys to kill for you?
"Yes that's true. The soldier boys like to think that this is a "war
on terror" so we continue to tell them (and the world) that so that
we'll get their support. We pat the stupid boys on their backs - give
them some medals, call them 'heros', and tell them that they did a
great job defending freedom, and fighting for their country. They
usually walk (or hobble) away smiling - and we laugh all the way to
the bank. It's clearly a win - win situation!"
Is it because you think that the Iraqi civilians don't matter?
"They are worthless. Those 15,000 women and children wouldn't have
been killed if they had stayed the hell out of our way. Their oil and
the defense contracts are important - the hundreds of billions of
dollars. Now that is veeerrry important. He he!"
Is it because the American people would be
horrified and much less supportive of wicked invasions like this one?
"It would not be in America's best interests for the people to have a
rounded view of what's going on. It's always been that way though. We
have a wonderful propaganda system in the US that scares the sheeple
and tells them what to think and believe. It works very well for us,
thank you."
Would the truth of civilian casualties be bad for the business (of war
profiteering)?
"It would be devastating. We'd have to find other ways to screw the
American people out of hundreds of billions of dollars! The war way is
soooo easy! Many of us who support our dear dubya have seen 25 -35%
gains of our acummulations of raw wealth since the invasion began.
It's very exciting for us! We now have a permanent war strategy which
translates into permanent - maximal profit strategy. We are very happy
about it all! We simply adore money. We just can't get enough of it!
He he!"
===========================
www.veteransforpeace.org
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The Marine's tale: 'We killed 30 civilians in six weeks. I felt we
were committing genocide'
By Natasha Saulnier
"In a month and a half my platoon and I killed more than 30
civilians,"... He saw bodies being desecrated and robbed,
and wounded civilians being dumped by the roadside without medical
treatment. After he told his commanding officer that he felt "we were
committing genocide", he was called a "wimp"....
Iraqis, he said, "would see us debase their dead all the time. We
would be messing around with charred bodies, kicking them out of the
vehicles and sticking cigarettes in their mouths. I also saw vehicles
drive over them. It was our job to look into the pockets of dead
Iraqis to gather intelligence. However, time and time again, I saw
Marines steal gold chains, watches and wallets full of money."
excerpted from:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=523992
====================
Only the truth will set us free from war and tyrants. More guns,
bombs, murders, executions, and lies will only make it all worse.
http://www.fahrenheit911.com
==================
"Man must change or die. There is no other course."
The World Teacher
http://www.share-international.org
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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07 Jun 2004 09:27:40 AM |
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"RH" <halcon7roho@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:524db79f.0406070622.190ff353@posting.google.com...
Response below quoted from an anonymous high gov't official:
"Nobody (who matters) cares about high gas prices. Only the little
people fuss about that - they're a bunch of worthless peasants who
can't even afford to pay cash for their homes and motor vehicles. If
they had brains they'd be among the elite - those with millions or
billions stashed away - who make up Bush's base. The people of true
excellence."
--
You're wasting your time with your bitching.
Only 54% of Americans vote. That vote is
split pretty evenly. That means only 25%
favor a particular issue. So there is a very
strong possibility that 75% of Americans
don't give a ***** about your complaint.
Brooks Gregory
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| User: "Hugh Gibbons" |
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06 Jun 2004 01:49:08 PM |
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In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile? Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
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| User: "over 300,000 new jobs a month" |
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06 Jun 2004 01:53:45 PM |
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"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still
aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to
humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile?
Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards, he then went on to defeat
Albert Gore, while leading the Republican Party to back-to-back wins of the
House and the Senate in both 2000 and 2002. Then GW Bush's party won the
governorships of California, Kentucky, and Mississippi in 2003. Then in
2004 GW Bush freed the Iraqi people, ousted Saddam Hussein, took Saddam
Hussein into US custody, and attained a monthly new job creation rate of
over 300,000 new jobs a month, which is HIGHER than the average new job
creation rate during the entire 8 years of Clinton! And that was AFTER
9/11 AND after the collapse of Clinton's "dot.com" supposed "job creation"
market!
Not too shabby for a guy whom the Democrats claim "hardly even has his own
thoughts"!!
What an absolute JOKE today's Democrat Party has become.
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| User: "Hugh Gibbons" |
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06 Jun 2004 02:40:51 PM |
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In article <ZKJwc.15533$Yd3.4453@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"over 300,000 new jobs a month" <BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards, he then went on to defeat
Albert Gore, while leading the Republican Party to back-to-back wins of the
House and the Senate in both 2000 and 2002.
Yes, clearly, Bush knows one thing, and that's how to get elected.
Then GW Bush's party won the
governorships of California, Kentucky, and Mississippi in 2003.
Quite an accomplishment for the party. Not necessarily for Bush.
Then in
2004 GW Bush freed the Iraqi people,
FALSE.
ousted Saddam Hussein, took Saddam Hussein into US custody,
bot TRUE
and attained a monthly new job creation rate of
over 300,000 new jobs a month, which is HIGHER than the average new job
creation rate during the entire 8 years of Clinton!
Let's compare averages to averages. After years of steady declines, it was
about time the numbers started to turn around, and this is encouraging, but
Bush promised those increases would start YEARS ago, and he could not
deliver. What makes you think he's delivering now, rather than the
economy, independent of whatever he's doing?
And that was AFTER
9/11 AND after the collapse of Clinton's "dot.com" supposed "job creation"
market!
The expansion during the Clinton Presidency wasn't just a ".com" expansion,
it was broad-based, as was the ensuing recession.
Not too shabby for a guy whom the Democrats claim "hardly even has his own
thoughts"!!
What an absolute JOKE today's Democrat Party has become.
Too bad you can't recognize a joke when you see it.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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06 Jun 2004 04:49:03 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:53:45 GMT, "over 300,000 new jobs a month"
<BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still
aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to
humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile?
Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards,
Ronald Reagan was elected when he literally had Alzheimers so this
does not prove Bush isn't a moron
he then went on to defeat
Albert Gore, while leading the Republican Party to back-to-back wins of the
House and the Senate in both 2000 and 2002. Then GW Bush's party won the
governorships of California, Kentucky, and Mississippi in 2003. Then in
2004 GW Bush freed the Iraqi people, ousted Saddam Hussein, took Saddam
Hussein into US custody, and attained a monthly new job creation rate of
over 300,000 new jobs a month, which is HIGHER than the average new job
creation rate during the entire 8 years of Clinton! And that was AFTER
9/11 AND after the collapse of Clinton's "dot.com" supposed "job creation"
market!
Not too shabby for a guy whom the Democrats claim "hardly even has his own
thoughts"!!
What an absolute JOKE today's Democrat Party has become.
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| User: "over 300,000 new jobs a month" |
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06 Jun 2004 05:21:13 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:3947c01afhsql10cpp78l0gb8b27e7p23e@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:53:45 GMT, "over 300,000 new jobs a month"
<BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:jkr4c010nst7juf8kq1mo2vrnigvjg4207@4ax.com...
Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still
aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to
humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile?
Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards,
Ronald Reagan was elected when he literally had Alzheimers so this
does not prove Bush isn't a moron
No, Ronald Reagan was elected when he defeated his Democrat Party opponent.
Twice.
But given the sorry-assed intellectual state of today's Democrat Party, one
*supposes* that even a profound victim of Alzheimers could EASILY defeat a
Democrat candidate these days......
Be sure to let us know when you imagine you have come up with some sort of
credible, valid, intellectually honest point to make in these newsgroups,
Georgie.
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06 Jun 2004 07:29:24 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:21:13 GMT, "over 300,000 new jobs a month"
<BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:3947c01afhsql10cpp78l0gb8b27e7p23e@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:53:45 GMT, "over 300,000 new jobs a month"
<BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <0q25c0paktnh8v7l7ndtuu4n2dg26l28ue@4ax.com>,
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
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Weird, ain't it, Tyrebiter? I mean the Pope is senile, yet still
aware
enough to see Bush as he is - a clear and present danger to
humanity.
So what does that say about Bush's constituency? Sub-senile?
Mindless?
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards,
Ronald Reagan was elected when he literally had Alzheimers so this
does not prove Bush isn't a moron
No, Ronald Reagan was elected when he defeated his Democrat Party opponent.
Twice.
It is not necessary to explain that when Reagan won he defeated a
Democrat. Most here are already aware of that.
But given the sorry-assed intellectual state of today's Democrat Party, one
*supposes* that even a profound victim of Alzheimers could EASILY defeat a
Democrat candidate these days......
Since so much of what voters hear comes from ads or canned photo ops,
all sorts of bad things could happen.
Be sure to let us know when you imagine you have come up with some sort of
credible, valid, intellectually honest point to make in these newsgroups,
Georgie.
Saying Reagan was sick is valid. My girlfriend back then was a movie
executive, and I was with her when she got a call from a friend who
had just had dinner with President Reagan, sitting at the table with
him. Her friend pointed out that Reagan had told a long story, and
then just a minute later repeated the same long story. He said it was
the scariest moment of his life because he knew the President was
mentally incompetent.
I forget the date, but I know we broke up in 1985.
So it was before 1986.
Soon after Reagan was elected.
As to obviously incompetent candidates being able to be elected, I
pointed out that a foot powder company in south america put up signs
in a town, vote for popo pias
the name of a foot powder
it won
The man not known to others who only put up signs THree Cheers for
Mulligan
Elected
My points leave your lame stuff in the dust, of course.
The quality of what I say is to the quality of your comments as the IQ
of Clinton is to the IQ of Bush.
Roughly.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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06 Jun 2004 04:53:33 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:53:45 GMT, "over 300,000 new jobs a month"
<BadNews4Kerry@dmc.org> wrote:
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Or so the defeated Democrats like to claim.....
Not only did GW Bush defeat Ann "Ma" Richards
In South America a foot powder company put up signs
VOTE FOR POPO PIAS
the name of their product
Popo Pias won
A man unknown did nothing but put up signs
THREE CHEERS FOR MULLIGAN
and he was elected in a municipal race
Ronald Reagan was elected in 1984
And with all due respect he was "out to lunch."
Obviously being elected does not prove ability.
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| User: "Bob" |
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06 Jun 2004 02:51:03 PM |
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"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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06 Jun 2004 04:55:49 PM |
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:51:03 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-E4DD4D.13490806062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
You will learn not to depend on the
thoughts of senile people one day.
The church has thought about this stuff for a couple thousand years,
and the Pope is expressing that wisdom, not just his own thoughts.
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
When you set a record for the biggest military blunder in thousands of
years, isn't that decent proof you're a first-rate moron?
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| User: "Bob" |
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06 Jun 2004 06:03:35 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 07:30:34 PM |
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Subject: Re: President GW Bush - war hero
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 6/6/2004 7:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <wmNwc.16263$tl4.11349@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Freeing? What country are you talking about? Israel is now free of a major
threat to the east. You are correct about how history repeats. England was
pulled into the middle east and for 70 years english blood stained the sand.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 09:24:15 PM |
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:03:35 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
Had we wanted to be nice to people, we could have done vastly more
good for vastly less money.
Such as by eliminating various diseases from the face of the earth,
which would spare from torment tens of millions a year for the rest of
eternity.
Thus even by the measure of doing good, the move was a huge blunder,
because we did less good than could have been done.
IN reality, we did not care much about being nice to folts.
We allegedly went to get weapons.
That were not even there.
Wer'n talking blunder hall of fame, biggest ***** up imaginable.
Weapons - not even there.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 10:03:50 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:r8k7c0hq9gmaas47jk6laqb9tc6bt3lj1i@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:03:35 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 10:14:11 PM |
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Subject: Re: President GW Bush - war hero
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 6/6/2004 11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <NRQwc.29590$BH2.5732@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:r8k7c0hq9gmaas47jk6laqb9tc6bt3lj1i@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:03:35 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
You mean the grave danger of having some money from selling oil? If you really
believe that Iraq will be anything but a disater then your are as crazy as that
wormanw who keep changing her alias. Iraq is a disaster and it is only going
to get much worse.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 10:36:43 PM |
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"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040606231411.09339.00000693@mb-m03.aol.com...
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
You mean the grave danger of having some money from selling oil?
Sorry, I try not to respond to nonsense.
If you really
believe that Iraq will be anything but a disater then your are as crazy as
that
wormanw who keep changing her alias. Iraq is a disaster and it is only going
to get much worse.
You may be right about Iraq becoming
a disaster, but wouldn't it be great if
you are wrong?
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
07 Jun 2004 05:48:52 AM |
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Subject: Re: President GW Bush - war hero
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 6/6/2004 11:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <TmRwc.16873$1s1.16343@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040606231411.09339.00000693@mb-m03.aol.com...
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
You mean the grave danger of having some money from selling oil?
Sorry, I try not to respond to nonsense.
So you consider it nonsene that Iraq might actually be allowed to sell oil from
THEIR own country? Iraq would never have happened if they were not a major Oil
producer. The war was directly related to oil interest and Oil is George W.
Bush.
If you really
believe that Iraq will be anything but a disater then your are as crazy as
that
wormanw who keep changing her alias. Iraq is a disaster and it is only
going
to get much worse.
You may be right about Iraq becoming
a disaster, but wouldn't it be great if
you are wrong?
It would be wonderful if I was wrong but every day Iraq proves that it was a
terrible idea. IT will rank with some of the biggest blunders in American
history.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
07 Jun 2004 08:17:43 AM |
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"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040607064852.27585.00000771@mb-m05.aol.com...
Subject: Re: President GW Bush - war hero
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 6/6/2004 11:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <TmRwc.16873$1s1.16343@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040606231411.09339.00000693@mb-m03.aol.com...
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
You mean the grave danger of having some money from selling oil?
Sorry, I try not to respond to nonsense.
So you consider it nonsene that Iraq might actually be allowed to sell oil
from
THEIR own country? Iraq would never have happened if they were not a major
Oil
producer. The war was directly related to oil interest and Oil is George W.
Bush.
If you really
believe that Iraq will be anything but a disater then your are as crazy as
that
wormanw who keep changing her alias. Iraq is a disaster and it is only
going
to get much worse.
You may be right about Iraq becoming
a disaster, but wouldn't it be great if
you are wrong?
It would be wonderful if I was wrong but every day Iraq proves that it was a
terrible idea. IT will rank with some of the biggest blunders in American
history.
When you read a book, do you assume
the ending when you have completed
reading the first half?
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| User: "Divin Marquis" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
07 Jun 2004 07:28:30 AM |
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Le Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:36:43 -0500, Bob a écrit :
You may be right about Iraq becoming
a disaster, but wouldn't it be great if you are wrong?
I seriously doubt a definitive cure for AIDS will be found within the next
month, but it sure would be great if I am wrong.
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| User: "Hugh Gibbons" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 10:34:55 PM |
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In article <NRQwc.29590$BH2.5732@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
Point taken. What was that grave danger again?
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 10:37:49 PM |
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"Hugh Gibbons" <1234@5678.com> wrote in message
news:1234-2468D6.22345306062004@news-central.dca.giganews.com...
In article <NRQwc.29590$BH2.5732@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
Point taken. What was that grave danger again?
Possibility of having WMD on hand.
Probability of making WMD if sanctions were lifted.
Assisting terrorists.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
06 Jun 2004 11:02:50 PM |
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 22:03:50 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:r8k7c0hq9gmaas47jk6laqb9tc6bt3lj1i@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:03:35 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
Bob, that is not inconsistent with what I said.
I said we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
We could go there to get weapons and be nice to Iraqis.
That is a different reason.
It is a blunder to go there to get wmd and be nice to Iraqis if you
don't have WMD to start with and should have been sensitive to that
possibility etc
The WMD were essential. Nice was not.
Based on my analysis that for a tiny fraction of the money we could do
a lot more humanitarian good..
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: President GW Bush - war hero |
07 Jun 2004 08:19:42 AM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:i0q7c0tkn73gv4c7q6tcs3eilqfpnv5ean@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 22:03:50 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:r8k7c0hq9gmaas47jk6laqb9tc6bt3lj1i@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:03:35 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:gj47c0du11d0ksb1kj5417ib72ejq4k1bk@4ax.com...
Very much in contrast with GW Bush, who hardly even has his own
thoughts.
Underestimating political opponents seems
to be a habit of the left lately.
Or is it that you overestimate him and vote for him?
Overestimate, possible. Vote for him, yes
if Kerry is the democratic candidate.
President Bush launched a major war to get weapons which did not even
exist, and he had many good reasons to know his evidence for them was
shaky at best. He could have checked more with Blix.
WMD was one of the reasons, and most
governments thought Saddam had them.
But he went to war and made the biggest military blunder since some
fool let the Trojan Horse inside the walls
Freeing an entire nation is hardly a
blunder. It's amazing how history
repeats itself.
Bob, we did not go there to be nice to Iraqis.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American
and coalition forces are in the early stages
of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free
its people and to defend the world from grave
danger."
Bob, that is not inconsistent with what I said.
Only if you consider "freedom" as
not being nice, which is a possibility
I guess.
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