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"Trotskyite/Chomskyite" |
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11 Feb 2005 05:27:09 PM |
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RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
General Pinochet saved Chile from a Marxist totalitarian takeover in 1974.
His right-wing government restored freedom to Chile's middle class and made
the country's economy the strongest in Latin America.
Today Chile has returned to a left-of-center government and Pinochet is
charged
with not paying all back taxes owed. How do we know that this charge is
valid?
Reilly should know that it probably has no merit and is just politics.
Even in NA if a Canadian or American administration does not like an
individual one of the easiest
means of "getting" him or her is through Revenue Canada or the IRS. The old
crook Chretien tried to get Mulroney
on fraud and conflict of interest.
Another example, Fox News' John Gibson, and outspoken U.S. conservative
says that he was audited four
or five times by the former Clinton administration in the 1990s.
Reilley could attempt to answer this question. Has Fidel Castro paid all his
taxes owing in Cuba?
Or how about the late Yasser Arafat? Did he pay all his taxes due on the
largesse given to
him by the West? What about Robert Mugabe,
Kofi Annan, or Kim Il Sung, all admired by Reilley as role models. Do they
pay taxes?
Does Paul Martin's company, Canada Steamship Lines, owe any taxes on income
made from
government contracts or subsidies? Oops, I forgot. Canada Steamship Lines is
registered offshore
and thus does not pay any taxes. Good for Martin. He knows how to work the
system.
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| User: "Jarry Cosmosez.... Jarry" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 05:41:43 PM |
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"Trotskyite/Chomskyite" <trotsky/chomsky@utopia.com> wrote in message
news:3ridnYrC98vXopDfRVn-uA@rogers.com...
Reilley could attempt to answer this question. Has Fidel Castro paid all
his
taxes owing in Cuba?
Or how about the late Yasser Arafat? Did he pay all his taxes due on the
largesse given to
him by the West? What about Robert Mugabe,
Kofi Annan, or Kim Il Sung, all admired by Reilley as role models. Do they
pay taxes?
Does Paul Martin's company, Canada Steamship Lines, owe any taxes on
income
made from
government contracts or subsidies? Oops, I forgot. Canada Steamship Lines
is
registered offshore
and thus does not pay any taxes. Good for Martin. He knows how to work the
system.
Reilly supports Neo-Lib terrorism and would sacrifice you to his goat god,
to get his meds (Zoloft )
but besides that, do you believe he could answer any question that relates
to any issue that makes sense, I hardly think he has any brain cells to do
that!!!!
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 08:10:14 PM |
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Mark Hansel wrote:
Reilly supports Neo-Lib terrorism
That is absurd -- if you actually believe this, you are both stupid
AND insane.
and would sacrifice you to his goat god,
There is no "goat god" - the phrase is meaningless.
to get his meds (Zoloft )
I have no idea what Zoloft is -- but you seem quite familiar.
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| User: "Jarry Cosmosez.... Jarry" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 09:04:35 PM |
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<david_deilley@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1108174214.682670.94840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stupid AND insane.
David I beleive you are!!!
and would sacrifice you to his goat god,
There is no "goat god" - the phrase is meaningless.
My David, are you forsaking your goat god, you know... you will have all the
cult members upset in the Liberals now!
to get his meds (Zoloft )
I have no idea what Zoloft is -- but you seem quite familiar.
it your meds don't you know what the doctors are giving you!!!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 05:33:32 PM |
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Trotskyite/Chomskyite wrote:
General Pinochet saved Chile from a
Marxist totalitarian takeover in 1974.
Pinochet is a tax cheat who led a coup against a democratically elected
government and replaced it wit a military dictatorship. You seem to
think this is okay because the democratically elected governmet was a
too left wing for your taste -- which puts you firmly in the
"undomocratic/authortarian/fascist" camp.
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| User: "Jarry Cosmosez.... Jarry" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 05:43:01 PM |
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<david_deilley@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1108164812.482760.150250@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Trotskyite/Chomskyite wrote:
General Pinochet saved Chile from a
Marxist totalitarian takeover in 1974.
Pinochet is a tax cheat who led a coup against a democratically elected
government and replaced it wit a military dictatorship. You seem to
think this is okay because the democratically elected governmet was a
too left wing for your taste -- which puts you firmly in the
"undomocratic/authortarian/fascist" camp.
Is that why you Support Neo-Lib stupidity in the Liberal government Reilly,
where million's of tax dollars where given to all his close
freinds.......your an idiot David, take your med's
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 07:49:21 PM |
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Mark Hansel wrote:
<david_deilley@yahoo.ca> wrote
Pinochet is a tax cheat who led a coup against a democratically
elected
government and replaced it wit a military dictatorship. You seem
to
think this is okay because the democratically elected governmet was
a
too left wing for your taste -- which puts you firmly in the
"undomocratic/authortarian/fascist" camp.
Is that why you Support Neo-Lib stupidity in the Liberal government
Reilly,
where million's of tax dollars where given to all his close
freinds.......your an idiot David, take your med's
Are you mental?*
This issue has NOTHING to do with Canadian politics.
* rhetorical question
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| User: "Jarry Cosmosez.... Jarry" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 09:02:15 PM |
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<david_deilley@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1108172960.974550.178940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pinochet is a tax cheat who led a coup against a democratically
elected
government and replaced it wit a military dictatorship. You seem
to
think this is okay because the democratically elected governmet was
a
too left wing for your taste -- which puts you firmly in the
"undomocratic/authortarian/fascist" camp.
Is that why you Support Neo-Lib stupidity in the Liberal government
Reilly,
where million's of tax dollars where given to all his close
freinds.......your an idiot David, take your med's
Are you mental?*
This issue has NOTHING to do with Canadian politics.
It doesn't matter to you that thieves and criminals are in government or out
of government, as you can't get the issue or big picture anyhow, it gpes
over your medicated brain to grasp, and David you are mentally stupid as the
twon pump idiot!!!
On any issue. Q- Is that why you Support Neo-Lib stupidity in the Liberal
government Reilly, where million's of tax dollars where given to all his
close freinds.......your an idiot David, take your med's
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:18:33 AM |
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Trotskyite/Chomskyite wrote:
General Pinochet saved Chile from a Marxist totalitarian takeover in
1974.
His right-wing government restored freedom to Chile's middle class
and made
the country's economy the strongest in Latin America.
Totalitarian takeover? *****, the Allende government was voted in
in a honest, democratic election. Then Pinochet staged a US-driven
coup, and set up a dictatorship which killed 3000 people, including at
least two US citizens. The end result was an increase in poverty and a
drop in living standards.
Only debunked rightard Milton Friedmann expressed any admiration for
the Chilean economy.
Pinochet deserves to be put on trial for his crimes, followed by a
long, slow execution. And Henry Kissenger deserves the same for
helping Pinochet make it all happen.
I know that Lambourne gets hard at the thought of setting up a
Pionchet-style dictatorship here in Canada, but it ain't gonna happen
on my watch.
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| User: "Tom the Canuck" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 07:03:50 PM |
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talk about historical revisionism. Pinochet a hero. okie...
"Trotskyite/Chomskyite" <trotsky/chomsky@utopia.com> wrote in message
news:3ridnYrC98vXopDfRVn-uA@rogers.com...
General Pinochet saved Chile from a Marxist totalitarian takeover in 1974.
His right-wing government restored freedom to Chile's middle class and
made
the country's economy the strongest in Latin America.
Today Chile has returned to a left-of-center government and Pinochet is
charged
with not paying all back taxes owed. How do we know that this charge is
valid?
Reilly should know that it probably has no merit and is just politics.
Even in NA if a Canadian or American administration does not like an
individual one of the easiest
means of "getting" him or her is through Revenue Canada or the IRS. The
old
crook Chretien tried to get Mulroney
on fraud and conflict of interest.
Another example, Fox News' John Gibson, and outspoken U.S. conservative
says that he was audited four
or five times by the former Clinton administration in the 1990s.
Reilley could attempt to answer this question. Has Fidel Castro paid all
his
taxes owing in Cuba?
Or how about the late Yasser Arafat? Did he pay all his taxes due on the
largesse given to
him by the West? What about Robert Mugabe,
Kofi Annan, or Kim Il Sung, all admired by Reilley as role models. Do they
pay taxes?
Does Paul Martin's company, Canada Steamship Lines, owe any taxes on
income
made from
government contracts or subsidies? Oops, I forgot. Canada Steamship Lines
is
registered offshore
and thus does not pay any taxes. Good for Martin. He knows how to work the
system.
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
11 Feb 2005 08:03:36 PM |
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Pinochet was no hero. Neither was Allende. While Allende was
democratically elected, it probably would have been Chile's last had
he stayed in power.
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| User: "parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
12 Feb 2005 02:53:00 AM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1108173816.482325.264470@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pinochet was no hero. Neither was Allende. While Allende was
democratically elected, it probably would have been Chile's last had
he stayed in power.
Since we'll never know, let's stick with facts: Pinochet, helped by the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected government and assassinated Allende. One
of the several examples of the USA messing in other countries' interior
politics. And we call Irak, Iran and North Korea "rogue states"!!!
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
12 Feb 2005 05:11:07 AM |
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Since we'll never know, let's stick with facts: Pinochet, helped by
the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected government and assassinated
Allende.
They why don't you stick to the facts? Fact is, whether Allende
committed suicide or was murdered has never been conclusively
established.
But once in power, Allende would never have had elections again.
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| User: "parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
12 Feb 2005 09:44:11 AM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1108206667.394138.70790@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since we'll never know, let's stick with facts: Pinochet, helped by
the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected government and assassinated
Allende.
They why don't you stick to the facts? Fact is, whether Allende
committed suicide or was murdered has never been conclusively
established.
Do you really believe that? Or are you that naive?
But once in power, Allende would never have had elections again.
Yeah, whatever... but we'll never know since Pinochet, helped by the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected governement... And that's a fact!
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
12 Feb 2005 05:49:06 PM |
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Do you really believe that? Or are you that naive?
I believe facts. I don't base my beliefs on unsubstantiated rumours as
you do.
Yeah, whatever... but we'll never know since Pinochet, helped by the
USA,
overthrew a democratically elected governement... And that's a fact!
Yeah, yeah. Communists will hold an election ONCE. Voting is against
their beliefs.
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| User: "parsifal" |
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13 Feb 2005 02:19:12 AM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1108252145.979804.86280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Do you really believe that? Or are you that naive?
I believe facts. I don't base my beliefs on unsubstantiated rumours as
you do.
Here's a fact: this isn't a unsubtantiated rumor. Stop believing your own
fascist propaganda.
In this case, it doesn't make a difference whether he was assassinated or
"was suicided"...
Yeah, whatever... but we'll never know since Pinochet, helped by the
USA,
overthrew a democratically elected governement... And that's a fact!
Yeah, yeah. Communists will hold an election ONCE. Voting is against
their beliefs.
Here's a fact: Allende wasn't a communist.
Here's another one: how many elections were held in nazi Germany, in fascist
Italy? So I guess that democraty is also against far-rightist's beliefs.
Here's another: why do USA interfere in other country's internal politics
when democracy speaks?
Here's a last one: USA are today's biggest rogue state.
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 05:00:11 AM |
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Here's a fact: this isn't a unsubtantiated rumor.
It has been unsubstantiated for decades now. You can repeat it a 1000
times and it is still unsubstantiated.
Here's a fact: Allende wasn't a communist.
Marxist/Communist/Dictator.....call him what you please.
Here's a last one: USA are today's biggest rogue state.
Oooh. Rogue. That's a scary word. Have you let anyone else know?
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| User: "parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 04:26:38 PM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1108292411.120177.19580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Here's a fact: this isn't a unsubtantiated rumor.
It has been unsubstantiated for decades now. You can repeat it a 1000
times and it is still unsubstantiated.
It isn't and you know it. Stop lying.
Here's a fact: Allende wasn't a communist.
Marxist/Communist/Dictator.....call him what you please.
So I guess: Bush, Berlusconi, Pinochet, Milocevic, Mussolini, Hitler, same
thing, right?
Go read a book!
Here's a last one: USA are today's biggest rogue state.
Oooh. Rogue. That's a scary word. Have you let anyone else know?
I don't need to: the whole planet knows it. How can you otherwise explain
that Americans travelling abroad pretend they are Canadians?
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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13 Feb 2005 05:00:48 PM |
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It isn't and you know it. Stop lying.
There is no verifiable evidence that Allende was assassinated.
So I guess: Bush, Berlusconi, Pinochet, Milocevic, Mussolini, Hitler,
same
thing, right?
Go read a book!
A defining aspect of a democracy is regular elections. Dictators
believe in One Vote, Once.
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| User: "Sparkey new meat.... Sparkey new" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:48:25 AM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108292411.120177.19580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... sings a hymn
for the new Adolf in America, George Bush!!!!
http://www.americannaziparty.com/images/banner.gif
http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/sounds/horstw.ra
Horst Wessel Lied
Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit
Die Strasse frei den braunen Batallionen
Die Strasse frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann
Es schau'n auf's Hackenkreuz voll Hoffung schon Millionen
Der Tag fur Freiheit und fur Brot bricht an
Zum letzen Mal wird nun Appell geblasen
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit
Bald flattern Hitler-fahnen Uber allen Strassen
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur mehr kurze Zeit
Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit
Translation
Flag high, ranks closed,
The S.A. marches with silent solid steps.
Comrades shot by the red front and reaction
march in spirit with us in our ranks.
The street free for the brown battalions,
The street free for the Storm Troopers.
Millions, full of hope, look up at the swastika;
The day breaks for freedom and for bread.
For the last time the call will now be blown;
For the struggle now we all stand ready.
Soon will fly Hitler-flags over every street;
Slavery will last only a short time longer.
Flag high, ranks closed,
The S.A. marches with silent solid steps.
Comrades shot by the red front and reaction
march in spirit with us in our ranks.
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:24:19 AM |
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stormwatcher wrote:
Here's a fact: this isn't a unsubtantiated rumor.
It has been unsubstantiated for decades now. You can repeat it a 1000
times and it is still unsubstantiated.
Here's a fact: Allende wasn't a communist.
Marxist/Communist/Dictator.....call him what you please.
Dictators aren't elected, moron. They don't become dictators until
they cancel or fix the elections.
Here's a last one: USA are today's biggest rogue state.
Oooh. Rogue. That's a scary word. Have you let anyone else know?
When a nation overthrows democratic governemnts, such as Chile,
Guatemala, and Iran, it's gone rogue. Got it? By the way, you must be
teh only dumb schmuck on earth who buys Pinochet's "suicide" story.
Got one piece of evidence to back it up?
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 04:56:50 PM |
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By the way, you must be
teh only dumb schmuck on earth who buys Pinochet's "suicide" story.
Got one piece of evidence to back it up?
You have no evidence to refute it so it remains an unproven rumour.
Dictators aren't elected, moron. They don't become dictators until
they cancel or fix the elections.
Exactly. And in power, Allende would have cancelled all future
elections. That's what Marxist/Communists/dictators all do.
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
14 Feb 2005 12:05:21 AM |
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stormwatcher wrote:
By the way, you must be
teh only dumb schmuck on earth who buys Pinochet's "suicide" story.
Got one piece of evidence to back it up?
You have no evidence to refute it so it remains an unproven rumour.
My evidence is that the guy who made the claim is a lying ***** and a
thug for a dictator. Your evidence?
Dictators aren't elected, moron. They don't become dictators until
they cancel or fix the elections.
Exactly. And in power, Allende would have cancelled all future
elections. That's what Marxist/Communists/dictators all do.
What else does your crystal ball tell you? Moron.
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| User: "stormwatcher" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
14 Feb 2005 05:42:21 PM |
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My evidence is that the guy who made the claim is a lying ***** and
a
thug for a dictator. Your evidence?
So you have no evidence in the real sense. Thanks for admitting that.
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| User: "Sparkey new meat.... Sparkey new" |
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14 Feb 2005 05:59:01 PM |
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"stormwatcher" <pgcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My evidence is that the guy who made the claim is a lying ***** and
a
thug for a dictator. Your evidence?
BUSH is a thug and terrorist!
So you have no evidence in the real sense.
Everything that is posted you run away!!!
http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/trailers/martial_law/ml_trailer_256k.wmv
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
17 Feb 2005 10:54:24 PM |
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Well let's hear your evidence that he did commit suicide. Come on,
we'll wait.
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
17 Feb 2005 11:02:20 PM |
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http://www.rrojasdatabank.org/murder10.htm
Your turn to post your evidence. I wont' hold my breath.
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:20:19 AM |
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Yes, I suppose that there are absolute morons out there who still buy
Pinochet's "suicide" claim.
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:21:19 AM |
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stormwatcher wrote:
Since we'll never know, let's stick with facts: Pinochet, helped by
the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected government and assassinated
Allende.
They why don't you stick to the facts? Fact is, whether Allende
committed suicide or was murdered has never been conclusively
established.
Only an absolute moron would buy Pinochet's "suicide" story.
But once in power, Allende would never have had elections again.
Really? Got a crystal ball? Give us ONE indication that Allende was
planning on usurping the democratic process.
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| User: "Fisho" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:26:27 AM |
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"Siobhan Medeiros" <sbm2004@telus.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1108315279.120611.236610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
stormwatcher wrote:
Since we'll never know, let's stick with facts: Pinochet, helped by
the USA,
overthrew a democratically elected government and assassinated
Allende.
They why don't you stick to the facts? Fact is, whether Allende
committed suicide or was murdered has never been conclusively
established.
Only an absolute moron would buy Pinochet's "suicide" story.
But once in power, Allende would never have had elections again.
Really? Got a crystal ball? Give us ONE indication that Allende was
planning on usurping the democratic process.
Your nick sounds like a spammer's name.
--
Fisho
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| User: "Siobhan Medeiros" |
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| Title: Re: RE Radical Leftist David Reilley On Chiiles' General Pinochet |
13 Feb 2005 11:19:36 AM |
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Yeah, right, get out the crystal ball. Name ONE indication that
Allende was planning Marcos-style coup.
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