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Date: 25 Mar 2006 07:47:46 AM
Object: Re: Rumsfeld's havin' a hissy fit over Maureen Dowd's column - GOP - ( Make Bush Crime Family Pay Full Cost of The War.... If you think they cant afford it you are badly mistaken)
zoro robbin hood wrote:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/03/rumsfeld_shows_.html

Rumsfeld was just asked if he feels embattled by barbs such as the one
lobbed his way Wednesday by New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

She wrote that his influence inside the administration is ebbing and
that "one administration official says ... he's treated as an eccentric
old uncle who pops off and is ignored."

"If you believe everything you read in Maureen Dowd, you'd better get a
life," Rumsfeld said.

And here's The column wimpy Rummy's whining about:

From The New York Times, 3/22/06:

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/opinion/22dowd.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fMaureen%20Dowd

Fly Into a Building? Who Could Imagine?

By MAUREEN DOWD

Three little words:

Still employed there.

Of all the through-the-looking-glass moments in the last few days, the
strangest is this:

The F.B.I officer who arrested and questioned Zacarias Moussaoui told a
jury that he had alerted his superiors about 70 times that Mr.
Moussaoui was a radical Islamic fundamentalist who hated America and
might be plotting to hijack an airplane.

Seventy?

That makes one time for every virgin waiting for Mr. Moussaoui in
heaven.

Judging by how disastrously the prosecution is doing, the virgins will
have to wait.

We could have cracked the 9/11 plot if the F.B.I. wasn't run by dunces.


Mr. Moussaoui's lawyers got a break because according to the testimony
of the officer, Harry Samit, a better-run bureau could have broken the
case even without the terrorist's confession -- maybe F.B.I. officers
should have shot him with some paintballs.

On Sept. 10, 2001, Mr. Samit confided to a colleague that he was
"desperate to get into Moussaoui's computer."

He never heard back from the F.B.I.'s bin Laden unit before 9/11 --
what did the unit have to do that was more pressing than catching bin
Laden?

And he was obstructed by officials in F.B.I. headquarters here, whom he
labeled "criminally negligent."

He named two of the officials who did not want to endanger their
careers with any excess aggression toward radical fundamentalists:

David Frasca and Michael Maltbie, then working on the Radical
Fundamentalist Unit.

Even though Condi Rice told the 9/11 commission that "no one could have
imagined" terrorists' slamming a plane into the World Trade Center, an
F.B.I. officer did.

Officer Samit testified that a colleague, Greg Jones, tried to light a
fire under Mr. Maltbie by urging him to "prevent Zacarias Moussaoui
from flying a plane into the World Trade Center."

Later, Mr. Jones told Mr. Samit that it had just been "a lucky guess."

Kenneth Williams, a Phoenix agent, also sent a warning memo to the
phlegmatic Mr. Frasca in July 2001, after sniffing out a scheme by
Osama to dispatch Middle East extremists to America to get flight
training.

Neil Lewis wrote in The Times yesterday that "William Carter, an F.B.I.
spokesman, said that neither the bureau nor Mr. Maltbie nor Mr. Frasca,
who are still employed there, would have any comment."

Still employed there?

How can Mr. Maltbie and Mr. Frasca still be employed at the F.B.I.?

How can Michael Chertoff still be employed at Homeland Security?

How can Donald Rumsfeld still be employed at the Pentagon?

Missing 9/11, missing Katrina, mangling Iraq, racking up a $9 trillion
debt -- those things don't cause officials to lose their jobs.

Only saying something honest -- as prescient Gen. Eric Shinseki did --
can get you a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

Rummy told reporters last week that the military was preparing for a
civil war in Iraq, but he did not consider it a civil war yet -- even
though he acknowledged it was hard to tell exactly when chaos tipped
into civil war.

"I don't think it'll look like the United States' Civil War," he added
sanguinely.

Yeah.

At Fort Sumter, Lincoln let the enemy fire first.

So the defense secretary believes if the body count stays below the
Civil War era's 600,000, Iraq will achieve a healthy blue-state,
red-state democracy?

One administration official says that Rummy does not hold the same sway
in meetings anymore, that he's treated as an eccentric old uncle who
pops off and is ignored.

But why can't W. just quit him?

Instead, the president praised him for doing "a fine job" on two wars
and transforming the military, when Rummy actually bullied the military
to go along with his foolish schemes in Iraq and has sapped the
once-feared fighting machine.

At his impromptu press conference yesterday, the president presented
himself as a nice guy doing a difficult job, relentlessly joshing with
reporters.

He chided the press for playing into terrorists' goals by showing bad
news from Iraq -- "they're capable of blowing up innocent life so it
ends up on your TV show" -- even as reports surfaced about insurgents
outside Baghdad storming a jail, slaughtering 18 police officers and
letting the prisoners out, following fast upon an insurgent raid on
Iraqi Army headquarters in Kirkuk.

Does the president think TV will instead report on an increase in melon
sales at the market?

When the Bushies harp on training Iraqi security forces so America can
hand the country over to them, it has a hollow ring.

Back in 2003, the U.S. de-Baathified Iraq and put its faith in its
friends, the Shiites.

Now, given the suspected Shiite death squads and militias, the U.S.
wants to bring the Sunnis back into the system.

So whom do we trust?

And for how long?

Asked if he could envision a day when there would be no more U.S.
forces in Iraq, the president said, "That, of course, is an objective."


But he added that it would be decided by future Iraqi governments and
future American presidents.

Once W. is not still employed there.
____________________________________________________

Seems like Rummy and his nerdy boss need some psychiatric help.

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&

Thanks for posting this.
Maureen Dowd makes a meal of mince meat of the Bush administration on a
regular basis.
Once she was one of the few with enough balls to be critical of
Georgie-Boy and company. Now many have followed in her footsteps.
...Still the damn morons are not impeached by Congress. Go figure..!
.

User: "Bawl"

Title: Re: Rumsfeld's havin' a hissy fit over Maureen Dowd's column - GOP - ( Make Bush Crime Family Pay Full Cost of The War.... If you think they cant afford it you are badly mistaken) 25 Mar 2006 02:44:21 PM
Jason P wrote:

zoro robbin hood wrote:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/03/rumsfeld_shows_.html

Rumsfeld was just asked if he feels embattled by barbs such as the one
lobbed his way Wednesday by New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

She wrote that his influence inside the administration is ebbing and
that "one administration official says ... he's treated as an eccentric
old uncle who pops off and is ignored."

"If you believe everything you read in Maureen Dowd, you'd better get a
life," Rumsfeld said.

And here's The column wimpy Rummy's whining about:

From The New York Times, 3/22/06:

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/opinion/22dowd.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fMaureen%20Dowd

Fly Into a Building? Who Could Imagine?

By MAUREEN DOWD

Three little words:

Still employed there.

Of all the through-the-looking-glass moments in the last few days, the
strangest is this:

The F.B.I officer who arrested and questioned Zacarias Moussaoui told a
jury that he had alerted his superiors about 70 times that Mr.
Moussaoui was a radical Islamic fundamentalist who hated America and
might be plotting to hijack an airplane.

Seventy?

That makes one time for every virgin waiting for Mr. Moussaoui in
heaven.

Judging by how disastrously the prosecution is doing, the virgins will
have to wait.

We could have cracked the 9/11 plot if the F.B.I. wasn't run by dunces.


Mr. Moussaoui's lawyers got a break because according to the testimony
of the officer, Harry Samit, a better-run bureau could have broken the
case even without the terrorist's confession -- maybe F.B.I. officers
should have shot him with some paintballs.

On Sept. 10, 2001, Mr. Samit confided to a colleague that he was
"desperate to get into Moussaoui's computer."

He never heard back from the F.B.I.'s bin Laden unit before 9/11 --
what did the unit have to do that was more pressing than catching bin
Laden?

And he was obstructed by officials in F.B.I. headquarters here, whom he
labeled "criminally negligent."

He named two of the officials who did not want to endanger their
careers with any excess aggression toward radical fundamentalists:

David Frasca and Michael Maltbie, then working on the Radical
Fundamentalist Unit.

Even though Condi Rice told the 9/11 commission that "no one could have
imagined" terrorists' slamming a plane into the World Trade Center, an
F.B.I. officer did.

Officer Samit testified that a colleague, Greg Jones, tried to light a
fire under Mr. Maltbie by urging him to "prevent Zacarias Moussaoui
from flying a plane into the World Trade Center."

Later, Mr. Jones told Mr. Samit that it had just been "a lucky guess."

Kenneth Williams, a Phoenix agent, also sent a warning memo to the
phlegmatic Mr. Frasca in July 2001, after sniffing out a scheme by
Osama to dispatch Middle East extremists to America to get flight
training.

Neil Lewis wrote in The Times yesterday that "William Carter, an F.B.I.
spokesman, said that neither the bureau nor Mr. Maltbie nor Mr. Frasca,
who are still employed there, would have any comment."

Still employed there?

How can Mr. Maltbie and Mr. Frasca still be employed at the F.B.I.?

How can Michael Chertoff still be employed at Homeland Security?

How can Donald Rumsfeld still be employed at the Pentagon?

Missing 9/11, missing Katrina, mangling Iraq, racking up a $9 trillion
debt -- those things don't cause officials to lose their jobs.

Only saying something honest -- as prescient Gen. Eric Shinseki did --
can get you a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

Rummy told reporters last week that the military was preparing for a
civil war in Iraq, but he did not consider it a civil war yet -- even
though he acknowledged it was hard to tell exactly when chaos tipped
into civil war.

"I don't think it'll look like the United States' Civil War," he added
sanguinely.

Yeah.

At Fort Sumter, Lincoln let the enemy fire first.

So the defense secretary believes if the body count stays below the
Civil War era's 600,000, Iraq will achieve a healthy blue-state,
red-state democracy?

One administration official says that Rummy does not hold the same sway
in meetings anymore, that he's treated as an eccentric old uncle who
pops off and is ignored.

But why can't W. just quit him?

Instead, the president praised him for doing "a fine job" on two wars
and transforming the military, when Rummy actually bullied the military
to go along with his foolish schemes in Iraq and has sapped the
once-feared fighting machine.

At his impromptu press conference yesterday, the president presented
himself as a nice guy doing a difficult job, relentlessly joshing with
reporters.

He chided the press for playing into terrorists' goals by showing bad
news from Iraq -- "they're capable of blowing up innocent life so it
ends up on your TV show" -- even as reports surfaced about insurgents
outside Baghdad storming a jail, slaughtering 18 police officers and
letting the prisoners out, following fast upon an insurgent raid on
Iraqi Army headquarters in Kirkuk.

Does the president think TV will instead report on an increase in melon
sales at the market?

When the Bushies harp on training Iraqi security forces so America can
hand the country over to them, it has a hollow ring.

Back in 2003, the U.S. de-Baathified Iraq and put its faith in its
friends, the Shiites.

Now, given the suspected Shiite death squads and militias, the U.S.
wants to bring the Sunnis back into the system.

So whom do we trust?

And for how long?

Asked if he could envision a day when there would be no more U.S.
forces in Iraq, the president said, "That, of course, is an objective."


But he added that it would be decided by future Iraqi governments and
future American presidents.

Once W. is not still employed there.
____________________________________________________

Seems like Rummy and his nerdy boss need some psychiatric help.

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&


Thanks for posting this.

Maureen Dowd makes a meal of mince meat of the Bush administration on a
regular basis.

Once she was one of the few with enough balls to be critical of
Georgie-Boy and company. Now many have followed in her footsteps.

..Still the damn morons are not impeached by Congress. Go figure..!

Not hard to figure. All Congresscritters know they'll be "Wellstoned"
if they actually stand up for the States' interests.
They take AIPAC campaign contributions because they'd rather be known
as greedy than as cowards fearing death.
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Rumsfeld's havin' a hissy fit over Maureen Dowd's column - GOP - ( Make Bush Crime Family Pay Full Cost of The War.... If you think they cant afford it you are badly mistaken) 25 Mar 2006 02:50:19 PM
"Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1143319461.202634.261370@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Jason P wrote:

Once she was one of the few with enough balls to be critical of
Georgie-Boy and company. Now many have followed in her footsteps.

..Still the damn morons are not impeached by Congress. Go figure..!


Not hard to figure. All Congresscritters know they'll be "Wellstoned"
if they actually stand up for the States' interests.

Rumsfeld has nothing to do with States' Rights.
So - you can stop your secessionist blatherings on this thread.
--
I don't need a gun.
I have a penis.
.
User: "Jason P"

Title: Re: Rumsfeld's havin' a hissy fit over Maureen Dowd's column - GOP - ( Make Bush Crime Family Pay Full Cost of The War.... If you think they cant afford it you are badly mistaken) 26 Mar 2006 12:21:06 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1143319461.202634.261370@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Jason P wrote:


Once she was one of the few with enough balls to be critical of
Georgie-Boy and company. Now many have followed in her footsteps.

..Still the damn morons are not impeached by Congress. Go figure..!


Not hard to figure. All Congresscritters know they'll be "Wellstoned"
if they actually stand up for the States' interests.


Rumsfeld has nothing to do with States' Rights.
So - you can stop your secessionist blatherings on this thread.

--
I don't need a gun.
I have a penis.

A circumcised one no doubt..!
You work for the Israeli Mossad don't you..? Hiel Sharon..!
A lobbist for Israel in the U.S. Congress..?
.


User: "Jason P"

Title: Re: Rumsfeld's havin' a hissy fit over Maureen Dowd's column - GOP - ( Make Bush Crime Family Pay Full Cost of The War.... If you think they cant afford it you are badly mistaken) 26 Mar 2006 12:17:42 PM
Bawl wrote:

Jason P wrote:

zoro robbin hood wrote:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/03/rumsfeld_shows_.html

Rumsfeld was just asked if he feels embattled by barbs such as the one
lobbed his way Wednesday by New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

She wrote that his influence inside the administration is ebbing and
that "one administration official says ... he's treated as an eccentric
old uncle who pops off and is ignored."

"If you believe everything you read in Maureen Dowd, you'd better get a
life," Rumsfeld said.

And here's The column wimpy Rummy's whining about:

From The New York Times, 3/22/06:

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/opinion/22dowd.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fMaureen%20Dowd

Fly Into a Building? Who Could Imagine?

By MAUREEN DOWD

Three little words:

Still employed there.

Of all the through-the-looking-glass moments in the last few days, the
strangest is this:

The F.B.I officer who arrested and questioned Zacarias Moussaoui told a
jury that he had alerted his superiors about 70 times that Mr.
Moussaoui was a radical Islamic fundamentalist who hated America and
might be plotting to hijack an airplane.

Seventy?

That makes one time for every virgin waiting for Mr. Moussaoui in
heaven.

Judging by how disastrously the prosecution is doing, the virgins will
have to wait.

We could have cracked the 9/11 plot if the F.B.I. wasn't run by dunces.


Mr. Moussaoui's lawyers got a break because according to the testimony
of the officer, Harry Samit, a better-run bureau could have broken the
case even without the terrorist's confession -- maybe F.B.I. officers
should have shot him with some paintballs.

On Sept. 10, 2001, Mr. Samit confided to a colleague that he was
"desperate to get into Moussaoui's computer."

He never heard back from the F.B.I.'s bin Laden unit before 9/11 --
what did the unit have to do that was more pressing than catching bin
Laden?

And he was obstructed by officials in F.B.I. headquarters here, whom he
labeled "criminally negligent."

He named two of the officials who did not want to endanger their
careers with any excess aggression toward radical fundamentalists:

David Frasca and Michael Maltbie, then working on the Radical
Fundamentalist Unit.

Even though Condi Rice told the 9/11 commission that "no one could have
imagined" terrorists' slamming a plane into the World Trade Center, an
F.B.I. officer did.

Officer Samit testified that a colleague, Greg Jones, tried to light a
fire under Mr. Maltbie by urging him to "prevent Zacarias Moussaoui
from flying a plane into the World Trade Center."

Later, Mr. Jones told Mr. Samit that it had just been "a lucky guess."

Kenneth Williams, a Phoenix agent, also sent a warning memo to the
phlegmatic Mr. Frasca in July 2001, after sniffing out a scheme by
Osama to dispatch Middle East extremists to America to get flight
training.

Neil Lewis wrote in The Times yesterday that "William Carter, an F.B.I.
spokesman, said that neither the bureau nor Mr. Maltbie nor Mr. Frasca,
who are still employed there, would have any comment."

Still employed there?

How can Mr. Maltbie and Mr. Frasca still be employed at the F.B.I.?

How can Michael Chertoff still be employed at Homeland Security?

How can Donald Rumsfeld still be employed at the Pentagon?

Missing 9/11, missing Katrina, mangling Iraq, racking up a $9 trillion
debt -- those things don't cause officials to lose their jobs.

Only saying something honest -- as prescient Gen. Eric Shinseki did --
can get you a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

Rummy told reporters last week that the military was preparing for a
civil war in Iraq, but he did not consider it a civil war yet -- even
though he acknowledged it was hard to tell exactly when chaos tipped
into civil war.

"I don't think it'll look like the United States' Civil War," he added
sanguinely.

Yeah.

At Fort Sumter, Lincoln let the enemy fire first.

So the defense secretary believes if the body count stays below the
Civil War era's 600,000, Iraq will achieve a healthy blue-state,
red-state democracy?

One administration official says that Rummy does not hold the same sway
in meetings anymore, that he's treated as an eccentric old uncle who
pops off and is ignored.

But why can't W. just quit him?

Instead, the president praised him for doing "a fine job" on two wars
and transforming the military, when Rummy actually bullied the military
to go along with his foolish schemes in Iraq and has sapped the
once-feared fighting machine.

At his impromptu press conference yesterday, the president presented
himself as a nice guy doing a difficult job, relentlessly joshing with
reporters.

He chided the press for playing into terrorists' goals by showing bad
news from Iraq -- "they're capable of blowing up innocent life so it
ends up on your TV show" -- even as reports surfaced about insurgents
outside Baghdad storming a jail, slaughtering 18 police officers and
letting the prisoners out, following fast upon an insurgent raid on
Iraqi Army headquarters in Kirkuk.

Does the president think TV will instead report on an increase in melon
sales at the market?

When the Bushies harp on training Iraqi security forces so America can
hand the country over to them, it has a hollow ring.

Back in 2003, the U.S. de-Baathified Iraq and put its faith in its
friends, the Shiites.

Now, given the suspected Shiite death squads and militias, the U.S.
wants to bring the Sunnis back into the system.

So whom do we trust?

And for how long?

Asked if he could envision a day when there would be no more U.S.
forces in Iraq, the president said, "That, of course, is an objective."


But he added that it would be decided by future Iraqi governments and
future American presidents.

Once W. is not still employed there.
____________________________________________________

Seems like Rummy and his nerdy boss need some psychiatric help.

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&


Thanks for posting this.

Maureen Dowd makes a meal of mince meat of the Bush administration on a
regular basis.

Once she was one of the few with enough balls to be critical of
Georgie-Boy and company. Now many have followed in her footsteps.

..Still the damn morons are not impeached by Congress. Go figure..!




Not hard to figure. All Congresscritters know they'll be "Wellstoned"
if they actually stand up for the States' interests.

They take AIPAC campaign contributions because they'd rather be known
as greedy than as cowards fearing death.

Their too interested in taking kickbacks for Zionazi-Jewish interests
to worry about States interests.
.



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