Re: Target Iran - If there is an American war with Iran- it is a war that was made in Israel and nowhere else - Scott Ritter



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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Goldstein"
Date: 03 Jan 2007 03:28:26 PM
Object: Re: Target Iran - If there is an American war with Iran- it is a war that was made in Israel and nowhere else - Scott Ritter
can_o_worms wrote:

Book: Israel, Lobby Pushing Iran War

http://www.forward.com/articles/book-israel-lobby-pushing-iran-war/

Nathan Guttman Fri. Dec 29, 2006

A former United Nations weapons inspector and leading
Iraq War opponent has written a new book alleging that
Jerusalem is pushing the Bush administration into war
with Iran, and accusing the pro-Israel lobby of dual
loyalty and "outright espionage."

In the new book, called "Target Iran," Scott Ritter,
who served as a senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq
from 1991 to 1998 and later became one of the war's
staunchest critics, argues that the United States is
readying for military action against Iran, using its
nuclear program as a pretext for pursuing regime change
in Tehran.

I listend to Ritter and I don;t know why he love repressive regiems so
much. He could just be a Bush Hater. He failed to address to
sanctions that were being violated and all the votes the UN with
athorized the actions taken. Under Clinton in 1998 India and Pakistand
tested nuclear weapons. The Iranians foment so much hate and sponsor
kids to blow themselvs up as weapons. I don't see how you can trust a
group of people with so little reguard for life with such powerful
weapons. With all the unprovoked attack that have been made on Israel
it is very likely they would just try to wipe out Israel again. Still
terrorists in one hand and nukes in another it is tough to imagine the
influence they would have in the regoin. If they get nuclear weapons
neighaboring states have said they would get them too. The last thing
we need is more places to get nukes and more targets of opertunity for
radicals to take power over some of these nukes use them and leave the
residence of those countries as fodder for possible retaliation.
I always step back and look at what is behind terrorism. It is a
repressive backward culture that rejects the values of west and
individual. The governments who sponsor this culture preside over
repressive regiems in which freedom is a threat. It is Jihadist
propiganda which tells these people that you have two choices their
holy life or Bay Watch. That is a false choice there are several
prosperous non-oilprdusing islamic countries. These countries embrase
freedom while maintaing their Moslem culture, mush like Japan being
both modern and traditional. The Kurds in Iraq have embrased freedom
and stopped the terrorist and they are building a western modern
prosperous society. If the terrorists would go away and the forces of
tollerance could triumph that part of the world would be much better
off. While these repressive regiems stay in power and export terror to
their neighabors we will have conflict. To end the conflict you have
to go to the heart of the repression. We saw it with the Nazies and
Comunism. In fact the Bath Party is a modern incarnation of the Arabic
Nazi party.
.

User: "can_o_worms"

Title: Re: Target Iran - If there is an American war with Iran- it is a war that was made in Israel and nowhere else - Scott Ritter 03 Jan 2007 07:44:02 PM
On 3 Jan 2007 13:28:26 -0800, "Goldstein" <enki034@yahoo.com> wrote:

can_o_worms wrote:

Book: Israel, Lobby Pushing Iran War

http://www.forward.com/articles/book-israel-lobby-pushing-iran-war/

Nathan Guttman Fri. Dec 29, 2006

A former United Nations weapons inspector and leading
Iraq War opponent has written a new book alleging that
Jerusalem is pushing the Bush administration into war
with Iran, and accusing the pro-Israel lobby of dual
loyalty and "outright espionage."

In the new book, called "Target Iran," Scott Ritter,
who served as a senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq
from 1991 to 1998 and later became one of the war's
staunchest critics, argues that the United States is
readying for military action against Iran, using its
nuclear program as a pretext for pursuing regime change
in Tehran.


I listend to Ritter and I don;t know why he love repressive regiems so
much. He could just be a Bush Hater. He failed to address to
sanctions that were being violated and all the votes the UN with
athorized the actions taken. Under Clinton in 1998 India and Pakistand
tested nuclear weapons. The Iranians foment so much hate and sponsor
kids to blow themselvs up as weapons. I don't see how you can trust a
group of people with so little reguard for life with such powerful
weapons. With all the unprovoked attack that have been made on Israel
it is very likely they would just try to wipe out Israel again. Still
terrorists in one hand and nukes in another it is tough to imagine the
influence they would have in the regoin. If they get nuclear weapons
neighaboring states have said they would get them too. The last thing
we need is more places to get nukes and more targets of opertunity for
radicals to take power over some of these nukes use them and leave the
residence of those countries as fodder for possible retaliation.

As Ritter explains both in his book "Target Iran" and "The Nation"
tour : The 2004 and 2006 U.S. National Security Strategy is not
about nuclear weapons disarmament......It's about regime change.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html
As was proven by the UNSCOM inspections in Iraq (which
forced Iraq to abandon it's WMD programs in '92) : IAEA
inspections backed by a credible threat of sanctions, and
possibly force are the way to go as concerns nuclear weapons
disarmament and not airing public threats from AIPAC foreign
policy conferences (as Bush administration spokesmen did )
and passing AIPAC sponsored legislation pertaining to an
eventual regime change in Iran (as Bush's compliant CONgress
did).......That, along with parking 140,000 U.S. soldiers on Iran's
border, seems to me to be the way to ultimately convince the
Mullahs that they need nuclear defensive weapons.
It also might convince the 60 or so nations who are planning
on future nuclear electrical power programs that it doesn't pay
to sign onto the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (as Israel,
Pakistan nor India haven't done).


I always step back and look at what is behind terrorism. It is a
repressive backward culture that rejects the values of west and
individual. The governments who sponsor this culture preside over
repressive regiems in which freedom is a threat. It is Jihadist
propiganda which tells these people that you have two choices their
holy life or Bay Watch. That is a false choice there are several
prosperous non-oilprdusing islamic countries. These countries embrase
freedom while maintaing their Moslem culture, mush like Japan being
both modern and traditional. The Kurds in Iraq have embrased freedom
and stopped the terrorist and they are building a western modern
prosperous society. If the terrorists would go away and the forces of
tollerance could triumph that part of the world would be much better
off. While these repressive regiems stay in power and export terror to
their neighabors we will have conflict. To end the conflict you have
to go to the heart of the repression. We saw it with the Nazies and
Comunism. In fact the Bath Party is a modern incarnation of the Arabic
Nazi party.

Never bothered us when we supported Sotdam's Chemical dousing
of Iranian troops during their war when Sotdam was U.S. supported.
Pakistan also supports terrorism both in Kashmir and against U.S.
troops in Afghanistan and isn't even a signatory to the Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty nor is their rival across the most dangerous
border in the world: India.
None of that is of much concern to the Bush administration or their
pro-Iran-regime-change supporters and his compliant CONgress,
obviously because Pakistan does not support Hezbollah in
Lebanon.....Bush administration pro-Iran-regime-change supporters
and bipartisan pols show their priorities here and give evidence to
the fact that our National Security Strategy is about insuring long
term peace of mind for Israel and not much else.
Hezbollah, incidentally, is considered a defensive militia by many
Lebanese since Israel's repeated incursions into Lebanon during
the late '70s thru 2000. Israel's excuses for trying to achieve
hegemony over Lebanon were thin at best and a poor alternative
for a long term solution to the Palestinian refugee situation in
Lebanon........Bashir Gemyal, incidentally, was not only an Israeli
backed pol in Lebanon. He was once an honorary "non-Aryan" (sic)
"Hitler Youth Group" member and his Phalange "Black Shirt" militia
were born, in the '40s, as a Nazi supported Fascist entity......not a
perfect world is it ?
--
Recent legislation sponsored by the
"American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran.
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
***************
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 105
H R 282 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 26-Apr-2006
BILL TITLE: To hold the current regime in Iran
accountable for its threatening behavior and to
support a transition to democracy in Iran
YEAS 397
Too numerous to list but include Democrats Jack Murtha,
John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee,
and Lynn Woolsey.
NAYS 21
Tammy Baldwin - Dem
Earl Blumenauer - Dem
Allen Boyd - Dem
Peter DeFazio - Dem
John J. Duncan - Rep
Jeff Flake - Rep
John Hostettler - Rep
Walter B. Jones (NC) - Rep
Dennis Kucinich - Dem
Jim Leach - Rep
Jim McDermott - Dem
Jim McGovern - Dem
Cynthia McKinney - Dem
Jim Oberstar - Dem
Dave Obey - Dem
John Olver - Dem
Ron Paul - Rep
Nick Rahall - Dem
Vic Snyder - Dem
Pete Stark - Dem
Gene Taylor (MS) - Dem
********
Did I mention that this legislation was sponsored by
the "American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran ?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll105.xml
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
.


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