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Re: Target Iran - If there is an American war with Iran- it is a war that was made in Israel and nowhere else - Scott Ritter |
can_o_worms wrote:
Book: Israel, Lobby Pushing Iran War
http://www.forward.com/articles/book-israel-lobby-pushing-iran-war/
Nathan Guttman Fri. Dec 29, 2006
A former United Nations weapons inspector and leading
Iraq War opponent has written a new book alleging that
Jerusalem is pushing the Bush administration into war
with Iran, and accusing the pro-Israel lobby of dual
loyalty and "outright espionage."
In the new book, called "Target Iran," Scott Ritter,
who served as a senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq
from 1991 to 1998 and later became one of the war's
staunchest critics, argues that the United States is
readying for military action against Iran, using its
nuclear program as a pretext for pursuing regime change
in Tehran.
"The Bush administration, with the able help of the
Israeli government and the pro-Israel Lobby, has
succeeded," Ritter writes, "in exploiting the ignorance
of the American people about nuclear technology and
nuclear weapons so as to engender enough fear that the
American public has more or less been pre-programmed to
accept the notion of the need to militarily confront a
nuclear armed Iran."
Why is the killing and threatening of Jews acceptable and that of
defence of Isreal not. Israel was created by the UN. They were
attacked three times in major wars and countless acts of terror. The
end of the whole struggle is the elimination of Israel. They have been
attacked and won in wars they are attacked by terror and taken measures
to protect themselvs. This is all just rampent Antisemitism is
acceptable, you can kill jews and try to destroy a country and group of
people and it is OK. Isreal is not some special class of people the US
regularly protects people undersiege, Bosnians, Kurds, Somolies, Europe
in the 40s. I can still fine overt Jew haters in a few mouse clicks.
The removal of Israle is not only hjatred of Jews but hatred of the
individual and the west. Israel is a sceular jewish country that is
propsering next to many oppressive countries that are suffering. They
use Jew hatred to direct attention away frorm their failures and place
it on the Jews. Iran has so much oil and they have a bad economy. It
is the repression of the individual that is the root of their failures
not Israel who would perfer to be left alone and not have to fight
their neighabors.
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| Title: Re: Target Iran - If there is an American war with Iran- it is a war that was made in Israel and nowhere else - Scott Ritter |
04 Jan 2007 08:04:10 AM |
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On 3 Jan 2007 13:40:22 -0800, "Goldstein" <enki034@yahoo.com> wrote:
can_o_worms wrote:
Book: Israel, Lobby Pushing Iran War
http://www.forward.com/articles/book-israel-lobby-pushing-iran-war/
Nathan Guttman Fri. Dec 29, 2006
A former United Nations weapons inspector and leading
Iraq War opponent has written a new book alleging that
Jerusalem is pushing the Bush administration into war
with Iran, and accusing the pro-Israel lobby of dual
loyalty and "outright espionage."
In the new book, called "Target Iran," Scott Ritter,
who served as a senior U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq
from 1991 to 1998 and later became one of the war's
staunchest critics, argues that the United States is
readying for military action against Iran, using its
nuclear program as a pretext for pursuing regime change
in Tehran.
"The Bush administration, with the able help of the
Israeli government and the pro-Israel Lobby, has
succeeded," Ritter writes, "in exploiting the ignorance
of the American people about nuclear technology and
nuclear weapons so as to engender enough fear that the
American public has more or less been pre-programmed to
accept the notion of the need to militarily confront a
nuclear armed Iran."
Why is the killing and threatening of Jews acceptable and that of
defence of Isreal not. Israel was created by the UN.
In the first place, Ritter doesn't condone the killing of Jews. He
simply points out , in so many words, that Aham-and-cheese-jihad
is a relatively powerless Middle Eastern windbag of the typical
variety and is reacting to public threats aired from the US....for
the purpose of baiting an eventual regime-change war with Iran.
And a Palestinian state was also proposed by the UN. What the UN
proposes doesn't necessarily make any difference to the parties
involved, as has been proven by events.
They were
attacked three times in major wars and countless acts of terror. The
end of the whole struggle is the elimination of Israel. They have been
attacked and won in wars they are attacked by terror and taken measures
to protect themselvs. This is all just rampent Antisemitism is
acceptable, you can kill jews and try to destroy a country and group of
people and it is OK. Isreal is not some special class of people the US
regularly protects people undersiege, Bosnians, Kurds, Somolies, Europe
in the 40s. I can still fine overt Jew haters in a few mouse clicks.
The removal of Israle is not only hjatred of Jews but hatred of the
individual and the west.
Israel picked a historically xenophobic neighborhood in which to
live in peace. Israel's defence, as such, is best left to Israel and
not to the U.S. soldier.
Some Israelis and many of their Christian and Jewish supporters
have acquired the assumption that Israel's defence should be an
American priority and that unqualified and unconditional support
for Israel should be taken for granted despite the intransigence
of Likud pols and AIPAC as regards attempts to strike a fair deal
with their Palestinians......Efforts in that direction, which are
short on the ground in Knesset-West nowadays would seem
to me to be the best scenario for both Israel's long term security
and Uncle Sugar's continued hegemony over Middle Eastern
oil reserves.
Endless feuds don't do much for either Kentucky's Cumberland
Plateau nor Israelis and Palestinians. I have yet to see how an
unnecessary attempt to change the regime in Iran would help
Israel as much as effective IAEA inspections or compromises
towards an Israeli - Palestinian peace deal.
Israel is a secular Jewish country that is
prospering next to many oppressive countries that are suffering. They
use Jew hatred to direct attention away frorm their failures and place
it on the Jews. Iran has so much oil and they have a bad economy. It
is the repression of the individual that is the root of their failures
not Israel who would perfer to be left alone and not have to fight
their neighabors.
Iran's oil industry is on the decline insofar as prosperous exports
go and they obviously are looking to compete in enriching uranium
for commercial sales to the 60 or so countries which plan future
nuclear electrical power programs. And the Nuclear Nonproliferation
Treaty does nothing to forbid NPT signatories to enrich uranium.....It
simply forbids nuclear weapons programs. You might hear "pundits"
talk of an Iranian nuclear weapons program as if it were a proven
fact but IAEA inspectors have found no evidence of any such thing
in Iran as of yet. (gee, I don't know about you but it kind of reminds
me of the very same "pundits" hyping of an Iraqi WMD threat.)
Any notion of forbidding an NPT signatory to enrich it's own uranium
for non military use (as opposed to being restricted to the whims of
three or four suppliers after converting fully to nuclear electrical
power plants) is impractical.....and impractical is what Daft Dubya's
Israel-centered foreign policy is about.
As Ritter explains both in his book "Target Iran" and "The Nation"
tour : The 2004 and 2006 U.S. National Security Strategy is not
about nuclear weapons disarmament......It's about regime change.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html
As was proven by the UNSCOM inspections in Iraq (which
forced Iraq to abandon it's WMD programs in '92) : IAEA
inspections backed by a credible threat of sanctions, and
possibly force are the way to go as concerns nuclear weapons
disarmament and not airing public threats from AIPAC foreign
policy conferences (as Cheney and other Bush administration
spokespersons did)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11684031/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/23/AR2005052301565.html
and passing AIPAC sponsored legislation pertaining to an
eventual regime change in Iran (as Bush's compliant CONgress
did).......That, along with parking 140,000 U.S. soldiers on Iran's
border, seems to me to be the way to ultimately convince the
Mullahs that they need nuclear defensive weapons.
It also might convince the 60 or so nations who are planning
on future nuclear electrical power programs that it doesn't pay
to sign onto the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (as Israel,
Pakistan nor India haven't done).
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Recent legislation sponsored by the
"American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran.
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 105
H R 282 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 26-Apr-2006
BILL TITLE: To hold the current regime in Iran
accountable for its threatening behavior and to
support a transition to democracy in Iran
YEAS 397
Too numerous to list but include Democrats Jack Murtha,
John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee,
and Lynn Woolsey.
NAYS 21
Tammy Baldwin - Dem
Earl Blumenauer - Dem
Allen Boyd - Dem
Peter DeFazio - Dem
John J. Duncan - Rep
Jeff Flake - Rep
John Hostettler - Rep
Walter B. Jones (NC) - Rep
Dennis Kucinich - Dem
Jim Leach - Rep
Jim McDermott - Dem
Jim McGovern - Dem
Cynthia McKinney - Dem
Jim Oberstar - Dem
Dave Obey - Dem
John Olver - Dem
Ron Paul - Rep
Nick Rahall - Dem
Vic Snyder - Dem
Pete Stark - Dem
Gene Taylor (MS) - Dem
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Did I mention that this legislation was sponsored by
the "American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran ?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll105.xml
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
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