Politics > Politics-USA > Re: Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despite orders to move it.
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24 Aug 2003 12:55:41 AM |
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Re: Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despite orders to move it. |
"pedro martori" <pedro1940@progression.net> wrote in message news:<7XL1b.30776$f43.637031@weber.videotron.net>...
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Chief Justice Roy Moore returned to the Alabama
Judicial Building and spoke with its manager Friday, as supporters outside
prayed that a Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despite
orders to move it.
Moore stood near the monument as he talked to building manager Graham
George, who was instructed Thursday by the rest of the justices on the
state's high court to carry out the removal. It wasn't known what was said.
Moore spent much of Thursday vowing to do everything within his power to
keep the monument in place. His eight colleagues on the state Supreme Court
had ordered the monument taken out after a federal judge's midnight removal
deadline passed.
After entering the building Friday, Moore waved to 40 or so supporters but
didn't come outside to meet them as they sang and prayed during a vigil kept
from sleeping bags and bedrolls.
The Rev. Herman Henderson of Believers' Tabernacle in Birmingham opted to
nap on the concrete with his head resting on sheet music for the song, ``I
Shall Not Be Moved.''
They remained quiet throughout the night, prompting police to retreat to
their post across the street.
U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson set the midnight deadline after deciding
that sitting in the public rotunda, the monument violated the Constitution's
ban on government promotion of a religious doctrine. Thompson has said it
could be moved to a private place still within the building.
The judge had threatened $5,000-a-day fines if Moore left the monument in
the rotunda.
Thompson was scheduled to have a conference call with attorneys in the case
Friday. Lawyers suing to remove the monument also have filed a complaint
with the state Judicial Inquiry Commission, alleging that Moore violated
canons of judicial ethics by refusing to carry out a court order.
The commission, which was scheduled to meet Friday, can send a case to the
Court of the Judiciary, which holds trials and has the power to discipline
and remove judges. Judicial ethics cases usually take months.
George was instructed by the state's high court to ``take all steps
necessary to comply'' with the federal court's removal order, justice Gorman
Houston said. George declined to comment when asked when, how or where the
monument would be moved.
Moore condemned his fellow judges for their orders. In their ruling, the
Alabama justices stated they were ``bound by solemn oath'' to uphold the
law.
``I will never deny the God upon whom our laws and country depend,'' Moore
said Thursday in defending the 5,300-pound granite marker, which he
installed two years ago and contends is representation of the moral
foundation of American law.
``Not only did Judge Thompson put himself above the law, but above God as
well,'' Moore told supporters.
The chief justice had appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court for an emergency
stay of the removal order, but the court rejected it Wednesday. Moore said
Thursday he would file a formal appeal with the high court soon ``to defend
our constitutional right to acknowledge God.''
``I cannot forsake my conscience,'' he said.
Richard Cohen, an attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center - which sued
along with the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for
Separation of Church and State - praised the eight justices.
``Their courageous actions reflect that Justice Moore is a disgrace to the
bench and ought to resign or be removed from office,'' Cohen said.
Still, protesters outside the building said they were willing to stand in
the heat and risk arrest for days or weeks to keep the monument inside.
Twenty-one were arrested Wednesday night on trespassing charges.
Stephen Hopkins, pastor of Burnet Bible Church in Burnet, Texas, was one of
those arrested. He said he was willing to be arrested even though he has 10
children.
``This is a great hypocrisy,'' Hopkins said. ``This is an assault on God.
They're saying we're going to cover up God.''
lavozdecubalibre.com
That nut case judge needs to be removed from the bench and the rock he
had place in the rotunda removed along with all the religious wackos
sitting outside the courthouse! While their at it they should remove
your garbage from these groups!
CLB
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| User: "Hassen bin Lai" |
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| Title: Re: Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despite orders to move it. |
26 Aug 2003 07:41:53 PM |
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(C L Bailey) wrote in message news:<2ba5ced6.0308232155.3c14820a@posting.google.com>...
That nut case judge needs to be removed from the bench and the rock he
had place in the rotunda removed along with all the religious wackos
sitting outside the courthouse! While their at it they should remove
your garbage from these groups!
CLB
Let it remain. Just put a few other gods next to it to be fair.
Maybe a big red statue of the Lord Satan on a white elephant.
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| User: "C L Bailey" |
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| Title: Re: Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despite orders to move it. |
27 Aug 2003 10:53:53 AM |
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(Hassen bin Lai) wrote in message news:<3815ce29.0308261641.6d03b246@posting.google.com>...
canisl_bailey@yahoo.com (C L Bailey) wrote in message news:<2ba5ced6.0308232155.3c14820a@posting.google.com>...
That nut case judge needs to be removed from the bench and the rock he
had place in the rotunda removed along with all the religious wackos
sitting outside the courthouse! While their at it they should remove
your garbage from these groups!
CLB
Let it remain. Just put a few other gods next to it to be fair.
Maybe a big red statue of the Lord Satan on a white elephant.
Your so crazy....LMAO!!!
Great point by the way!
CLB
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| User: "Mike Wilcox" |
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| Title: Re: Ten Commandments monument might remain in the rotunda, despiteorders to move it. |
27 Aug 2003 11:17:30 AM |
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C L Bailey wrote:
impro6t9@hotmail.com (Hassen bin Lai) wrote in message news:<3815ce29.0308261641.6d03b246@posting.google.com>...
canisl_bailey@yahoo.com (C L Bailey) wrote in message news:<2ba5ced6.0308232155.3c14820a@posting.google.com>...
That nut case judge needs to be removed from the bench and the rock he
had place in the rotunda removed along with all the religious wackos
sitting outside the courthouse! While their at it they should remove
your garbage from these groups!
CLB
Let it remain. Just put a few other gods next to it to be fair.
Maybe a big red statue of the Lord Satan on a white elephant.
Your so crazy....LMAO!!!
Great point by the way!
CLB
Good idea, put the idols and trappings of all the other sky fairies in there as well, just so no one is left
unrepresented ;~))
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| User: "Lillian Martinez" |
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27 Aug 2003 12:02:22 PM |
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Could you help collect signatures on petition to stop financing terrorism?
here is the petition:
http://xld.com/public/cuba/solutions/corpus.htm
Lillian
http://xld.com/public/cuba/cuba.htm
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| User: "Lillian Martinez" |
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29 Aug 2003 09:33:20 AM |
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"Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com> wrote in message
news:biiokf$9lirh$1@ID-77562.news.uni-berlin.de...
Could you help collect signatures on petition to stop financing terrorism?
here is the petition:
http://xld.com/public/cuba/solutions/corpus.htm
It is printable.
Lillian
http://xld.com/public/cuba/cuba.htm
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| User: "Tamakún" |
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| Title: Re: stop financing terrorism petition |
29 Aug 2003 12:21:59 PM |
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Lilliam, solo unas líneas para recordarte lo que paso cuando el
general Antonio Maceo llegó a la ciudad de Pinar del Río y ordenó el
toque de corneta para llamar al pueblo y así reclutar pinareños que se
unieran a sus tropas en su lucha contra los españoles.
¿No crees que después de un serimil de enganches con el mismo mensaje,
ya es hora de cruzar la trocha a nado?
Al menos, acepta, que no tienes mucha acogida, ni aun siquiera un
mensaje de apoyo o aliento en tu lucha.
Quizas te escribo estas líneas por piedad y por los años que han
transcurrido desde nuestros primeros intercambios hace más de 15 o 20
años, me da pena por ti, pero desde luego, cada loco con su tema.
Dale recuerdos a Clark.
Afectos Tony el Gato.
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:33:20 -0500, "Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com>
wrote:
"Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com> wrote in message
news:biiokf$9lirh$1@ID-77562.news.uni-berlin.de...
Could you help collect signatures on petition to stop financing terrorism?
here is the petition:
http://xld.com/public/cuba/solutions/corpus.htm
It is printable.
Lillian
http://xld.com/public/cuba/cuba.htm
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| User: "Lillian Martinez" |
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| Title: Re: stop financing terrorism petition |
30 Aug 2003 12:39:28 AM |
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Tony
Yo siempre pense que usted era una buena persona, pero si no se une con un
grupo activista, sencillamente, su opinion no cuenta.
Entre otras cosas, ya la peticion ha sido anunciada por radio y eso ha
traido impresiones de la peticion firmadas.
Lillian
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Hello Lillian
We are going to send out the petition in an email either late today or early
tomorrow morning.
Please keep us updated as to what happens in Texas. If there are any Cuban
American candidates running for office or any special events going on - let
us know.
Thanks for your all hard work.
The CubanGOP
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Here is the petition: http://xld.com/public/cuba/solutions/corpus.htm
It is printable.
Regards,
Lillian, in Round Rock Texas USA
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"Tamakún" <ElGato@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
news:nq2vkvo1c62p3mppbon8oo3arnmmo4hj2o@4ax.com...
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Lilliam, solo unas líneas para recordarte lo que paso cuando el
general Antonio Maceo llegó a la ciudad de Pinar del Río y ordenó el
toque de corneta para llamar al pueblo y así reclutar pinareños que se
unieran a sus tropas en su lucha contra los españoles.
¿No crees que después de un serimil de enganches con el mismo mensaje,
ya es hora de cruzar la trocha a nado?
Al menos, acepta, que no tienes mucha acogida, ni aun siquiera un
mensaje de apoyo o aliento en tu lucha.
No es cierto que no tenga acogida, pero aunque lo fuera, yo no abandono la
verdad solamente porque los demas no la reconozcan.
Quizas te escribo estas líneas por piedad y por los años que han
transcurrido desde nuestros primeros intercambios hace más de 15 o 20
años, me da pena por ti, pero desde luego, cada loco con su tema.
Dale recuerdos a Clark.
Afectos Tony el Gato.
=======================
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:33:20 -0500, "Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com>
wrote:
"Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com> wrote in message
news:biiokf$9lirh$1@ID-77562.news.uni-berlin.de...
Could you help collect signatures on petition to stop financing
terrorism?
here is the petition:
http://xld.com/public/cuba/solutions/corpus.htm
It is printable.
Lillian
http://xld.com/public/cuba/cuba.htm
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| User: "Tamakún" |
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| Title: Re: stop financing terrorism petition |
30 Aug 2003 11:24:02 AM |
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Tony
Yo siempre pense que usted era una buena persona,
Lilliam, aparentemente, después de esta línea, creo que ya no lo
piensa, ¿cuándo fue que decidió agruparme con los malos? jajajajaja
pero si no se une con un grupo activista, sencillamente
su opinion no cuenta.
Esto es cierto, ¿pero con cual? ..... ¿Los malos? ¿Los peores?
¿Los menos buenos? La decisión no es fácil, prefiero seguir como un
hombre solo, ¿qué le parece?
Entre otras cosas, ya la peticion ha sido anunciada por radio
y eso ha traido impresiones de la peticion firmadas.
Te felicito, toda iniciativa, bien encaminada y dirigida, produce
frutos, unos son dulces otros no tan dulces, pero frutos en fin.
Me refería a los posting en SCC. Que nadie les dio ni frió ni calor.
No comentaste sobre Maceo y Pinar Del Rió, me imagino que estas muy
ocupada, tampoco lo hiciste de mis saludos a Clark
No es cierto que no tenga acogida, pero aunque lo fuera, yo no
abandono la verdad solamente porque los demas no la reconozcan.
Saludos
Te felicito, así se hace, aunque la verdad es algo relativo y muy
escurridiza, siempre nuestra verdad es la verdadera verdad aunque no
sea así en realidad, recuerda aquello que dice, "nuestro vino es
agrio, pero es nuestro vino"
Los Estadounidenses tienen algo parecido que dice "My country is
allways right... true or not" bueno tu sabes de esto más que yo.
Yo como tonto al fin, gasto mucho tiempo revisando mis creencias y
decisiones, pues nunca estoy lo suficientemente seguro de mis
verdades.
Afectos
Tony El Gato.
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:39:28 -0500, "Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com>
wrote:
Tony
Yo siempre pense que usted era una buena persona, pero si no se une con un
grupo activista, sencillamente, su opinion no cuenta.
Entre otras cosas, ya la peticion ha sido anunciada por radio y eso ha
traido impresiones de la peticion firmadas.
Lillian
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| User: "Tamakún" |
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30 Aug 2003 11:21:04 AM |
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Tony
Yo siempre pense que usted era una buena persona,
Lilliam, aparentemente, después de esta línea, creo que ya no lo
piensa, ¿cuándo fue que decidió agruparme con los malos? jajajajaja
pero si no se une con un grupo activista, sencillamente
su opinion no cuenta.
Esto es cierto, ¿pero con cual? ..... ¿Los malos? ¿Los peores?
¿Los menos buenos? La decisión no es fácil, prefiero seguir como un
hombre solo, ¿qué le parece?
Entre otras cosas, ya la peticion ha sido anunciada por radio
y eso ha traido impresiones de la peticion firmadas.
Te felicito, toda iniciativa, bien encaminada y dirigida, produce
frutos, unos son dulces otros no tan dulces, pero frutos en fin.
Me refería a los posting en SCC. Que nadie les dio ni frió ni calor.
No comentaste sobre Maceo y Pinar Del Rió, me imagino que estas muy
ocupada, tampoco lo hiciste de mis saludos a Clark
No es cierto que no tenga acogida, pero aunque lo fuera, yo no
abandono la verdad solamente porque los demas no la reconozcan.
Saludos
Te felicito, así se hace, aunque la verdad es algo relativo y muy
escurridiza, siempre nuestra verdad es la verdadera verdad aunque no
sea así en realidad, recuerda aquello que dice, "nuestro vino es
agrio, pero es nuestro vino"
Los Estadounidenses tienen algo parecido que dice "My country is
allways right... true or not" bueno tu sabes de esto más que yo.
Yo como tonto al fin, gasto mucho tiempo revisando mis creencias y
decisiones, pues nunca estoy lo suficientemente seguro de mis
verdades.
Afectos
Tony El Gato.
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:39:28 -0500, "Lillian Martinez" <lm@xld.com>
wrote:
Tony
Yo siempre pense que usted era una buena persona, pero si no se une con un
grupo activista, sencillamente, su opinion no cuenta.
Entre otras cosas, ya la peticion ha sido anunciada por radio y eso ha
traido impresiones de la peticion firmadas.
Lillian
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