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Re: US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11 |
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
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www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a better
chance of examining evidence.
--
My mama was the cold north wind,
My daddy was the sun,
Of a railroad man from west of hell,
Where the trains don’t even run...
You need to BeDoper
http://www.bedoper.com
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16 Jun 2005 07:46:04 PM |
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"Chav Scum" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
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Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1118827628.572083.323410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center
on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that
the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it
is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers
and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of
the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said,
"If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade
Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack
on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific
debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is,
then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to
be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a
better
chance of examining evidence.
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
--
My mama was the cold north wind,
My daddy was the sun,
Of a railroad man from west of hell,
Where the trains don't even run...
You need to BeDoper
http://www.bedoper.com
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| User: "Goto Dengo" |
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16 Jun 2005 11:35:11 PM |
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Apparently, "Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in
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"Chav Scum" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
news:Xns9677A1AAB42D5spamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1118827628.572083.323410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center
on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that
the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it
is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers
and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of
the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said,
"If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade
Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack
on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific
debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is,
then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to
be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a
better
chance of examining evidence.
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
Like Van Romero, perhaps?
--
My mama was the cold north wind,
My daddy was the sun,
Of a railroad man from west of hell,
Where the trains don’t even run...
You need to BeDoper
http://www.bedoper.com
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17 Jun 2005 08:03:37 AM |
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On 17 Jun 2005 04:35:11 GMT, Goto Dengo <master@mason.snuh> wrote:
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
Like Van Romero, perhaps?
Who has admitted he was wrong, making the same mistake Bill Frist just
made, trying to diagnose something by watching television.
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| User: "lensman1955" |
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| Title: Re: US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11 |
18 Jun 2005 09:52:05 AM |
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Harvey wrote:
"Chav Scum" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
news:Xns9677A1AAB42D5spamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1118827628.572083.323410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center
on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that
the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it
is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers
and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of
the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said,
"If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade
Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack
on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific
debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is,
then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to
be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a
better
chance of examining evidence.
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
Actually, it doesn't matter because he didn't offer any information at
all, just another mindless insult!
Give me a legitimate, valid engineer or architect who has stated that
the evidence suggests that the Towers were brought down by explosives.
Then explain how they managed to cut supports and wire explosives while
no one was looking AND managed the descent to begin at exactly the
right floor.
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| User: "Goto Dengo" |
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18 Jun 2005 09:58:56 AM |
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Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1119106325.697962.162810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Harvey wrote:
"Chav Scum" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
news:Xns9677A1AAB42D5spamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1118827628.572083.323410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center
on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that
the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it
is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers
and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of
the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said,
"If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade
Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack
on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific
debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is,
then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to
be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a
better
chance of examining evidence.
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
Actually, it doesn't matter because he didn't offer any information at
all, just another mindless insult!
Give me a legitimate, valid engineer or architect who has stated that
the evidence suggests that the Towers were brought down by explosives.
Van Romero, numbnuts.
Then explain how they managed to cut supports and wire explosives while
no one was looking AND managed the descent to begin at exactly the
right floor.
Wow. A compound strawman.
--
My mama was the cold north wind,
My daddy was the sun,
Of a railroad man from west of hell,
Where the trains don’t even run...
You need to BeDoper
http://www.bedoper.com
187 All Cops
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html
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| User: "lensman1955" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:19:39 AM |
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Goto Dengo wrote:
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1119106325.697962.162810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Harvey wrote:
"Chav Scum" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
news:Xns9677A1AAB42D5spamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1118827628.572083.323410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
www_insider_org@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now
voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center
on
9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during
President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that
the
official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it
is
more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers
and
adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of
the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
in
Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said,
"If
demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade
Center
on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack
on
America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M
office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific
debate
over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If
the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is,
then
policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to
be
correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable
on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for
the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
Source: Washington Times (USA); UPI (USA).
PLEASE READ THE FULL REPORT:
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=1284
The key line in that quote is; "_if_ demolition destroyed three
skyscrapers..." my question is what qualifications does this man have
to decide how the buildings came down? Show me an engineer or an
architect that thinks there are questions about the fall of the
buildings and you'll have something.
Open your eyes, you moronic *****. Then, I suspect, you'll have a
better
chance of examining evidence.
It's possible you misunderstood him. He probably meant an actual
engineer or architect that isn't a conspiracy theory android freak,
buzzing and throwing sparks off short-circuited mental wiring.
Actually, it doesn't matter because he didn't offer any information at
all, just another mindless insult!
Give me a legitimate, valid engineer or architect who has stated that
the evidence suggests that the Towers were brought down by explosives.
Van Romero, numbnuts.
Then explain how they managed to cut supports and wire explosives while
no one was looking AND managed the descent to begin at exactly the
right floor.
Wow. A compound strawman.
I'm going to have to look up Van Romero. Thanks. However, elsewhere in
the thread, I've seen it posted that he changed his mind on the
deliberate implosion theory.
Furthermore, why is it a strawman, much less a compound one? I believe
I made legitimate points, controlled demolition requires a lot of
planning and preparation. A lot of work has to be done to the building
before the explosives can be set off. AND it has to be noticed that the
ENTIRE building did not collapse, the part above the impact point came
down whole.
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| User: "Goto Dengo" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:53:28 AM |
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Apparently, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1119107979.340026.25800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
I'm going to have to look up Van Romero. Thanks. However, elsewhere in
the thread, I've seen it posted that he changed his mind on the
deliberate implosion theory.
Yes, and now he's under investigation for changing his story. Of course, he
was given a highly-paid position once he changed his mind.
But he never gave any reasons for the flip-flop, and refuses to discuss it.
Why would you believe his second story, and dismiss his first one?
VP Van Romero Named Chairman of Domestic Preparedness Consortium. by George
Zamora
SOCORRO, NM, January 11, 2002 -- Van D. Romero, vice president for ...
www.angelfire.com/ny5/tradecencrimes/Van.htm
Van Romero Appointed to National Panel on Education
DOMENICI: NM TECH'S VAN ROMERO APPOINTED TO WHITE HOUSE EDUCATIONAL
INITIATIVE
.... WASHINGTON -- US Senator Pete Domenici today reported that Van Romero
of ...
infohost.nmt.edu/mainpage/news/2002/4june02.html - 20k - Jun 16, 2005 -
Cached - Similar pages
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/retractions/romero.html
Van Romero
Notable Retractions
New Mexico demolitions expert Van Romero said on the day of the attack that
he believed the building collapses were "too methodical" to have been a
result of the collisions, and that he thought "there were some explosive
devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse." His
remarks were published in the Albuquerque Journal 1 and are reprinted
below. Ten days later the same newspaper printed a retraction, in which
Romero is quoted as saying "Certainly the fire is what caused the building
to fail." 2 His assertion of the official line in the second article is not
backed up by any explanation or analysis.
"'Explosives Planted In Towers,' New Mexico Tech Expert Says"
By Olivier Uyttebrouck
Journal Staff Writer
Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that
explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech
explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears "too
methodical" to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the
structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico
Institute of Mining and Technology. "My opinion is, based on the
videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were
some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to
collapse," Romero said. Romero is a former director of the Energetic
Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive
materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other
structures. Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national
television broadcasts. Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled
those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures. "It would
be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that,"
Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C. Romero said he and
another Tech administrator were on a Washington-area subway when an
airplane struck the Pentagon. He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president
for administration and finance, were en route to an office building near
the Pentagon to discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech. If
explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have
been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said. "It could have been a
relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," Romero
said. The explosives likely would have been put in more than two points in
each of the towers, he said. The detonation of bombs within the towers is
consistent with a common terrorist strategy, Romero said. "One of the
things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack and
secondary device," Romero said. Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary
explosion that attracts emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a
second explosion, he said. Romero said that if his scenario is correct, the
diversionary attack would have been the collision of the planes into the
towers. Tech President Dan Lopez said Tuesday that Tech had not been asked
to take part in the investigation into the attacks. Tech often assists in
forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting off
similar explosions and studying the effects.(C) 2001, 'Albuquerque
Journal,'
The unsupported flip-flop assertion:
September 21, 2001
Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says
By John Fleck
Journal Staff Writer
A New Mexico explosives expert says he now believes there were no
explosives in the World Trade Center towers, contrary to comments he made
the day of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
"Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," said Van
Romero, a vice president at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and
Technology.
The day of the attack, Romero told the Journal the towers' collapse, as
seen in news videotapes, looked as though it had been triggered by
carefully placed explosives.
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
Romero supports other experts, who have said the intense heat of the jet
fuel fires weakened the skyscrapers' steel structural beams to the point
that they gave way under the weight of the floors above.
That set off a chain reaction, as upper floors pancaked onto lower
ones.
Romero said he believes still it is possible that the final collapse of
each building was triggered by a sudden pressure pulse caused when the fire
reached an electrical transformer or other source of combustion within the
building.
But he said he now believes explosives would not have been needed to
create the collapse seen in video images.
Conspiracy theorists have seized on Romero's comments as evidence for
their argument that someone else, possibly the U.S. government, was behind
the attack on the Trade Center.
Romero said he has been bombarded with electronic mail from the
conspiracy theorists.
"I'm very upset about that," he said. "I'm not trying to say anything
did or didn't happen."
Furthermore, why is it a strawman, much less a compound one? I believe
I made legitimate points, controlled demolition requires a lot of
planning and preparation. A lot of work has to be done to the building
before the explosives can be set off. AND it has to be noticed that the
ENTIRE building did not collapse, the part above the impact point came
down whole.
First of all, what do you mean "cut supports...while no one was looking"?
As far as planting explosives, I suppose I can't expect you to know that
security and power were shut down before 9/11, and a lot of people were
running around the WTCs, free to do whatever. I guess you want me to hold
your hand some more and find you some links?
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/forbes01.htm
"So on the weekend preceding the collapse of the Twin Towers security doors
were not secured in the South Tower, security cameras were not operating,
there was no lighting, air conditioning, no power at all. And there were
many 'engineers' in the building who were not employees of WTC companies.
(Naturally this raises the question: Was there also a 'power down'
condition that weekend in the North Tower?)"
But your biggest assumption is that they 'wired' anything. There are other
ways to create implosions that don't rely on Bugs Bunny-style TNT plungers
and cabling. This was not a legitimate controlled demolition done by a
established company. It was a military operation. Demolish the basement,
and what would happen to the building?
If the WTCs had collapsed from the top down, pancake style, the inner core
and outer core would not have come down in neat, bite-sized chunks along
with it. It would have been more akin to a stack of records on a spindle. I
suppose that's a bit difficult for you to fathom.
For someone who's been trying to muddy the waters for years now, I'd expect
you to have learned something along the way. Are you really, really dumb,
or are you just good at playing dumb?
Plainly visible charges in WTC-7
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/Flashes/squibview.mpg
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My daddy was the sun,
Of a railroad man from west of hell,
Where the trains don’t even run...
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20 Jun 2005 09:42:04 AM |
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Goto Dengo wrote:
[snip]
But he never gave any reasons for the flip-flop, and refuses to discuss it.
[snip]
Do ya even read what you post?
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
[snip]
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20 Jun 2005 11:36:32 AM |
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wrote:
Goto Dengo wrote:
[snip]
But he never gave any reasons for the flip-flop, and refuses to discuss it.
[snip]
Do ya even read what you post?
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
[snip]
Actual reconsideration of the facts is never enough reason for people
like this.
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| User: "6ft_tall_and_bulletproff" |
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23 Jul 2005 03:13:44 AM |
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What's up with the 9/11 makes me laugh. Surely this isnt a ref. to Sept 11
bombings. Regardless that number from this point on should always be
respected.
Semper Fi,
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Goto Dengo wrote:
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But he never gave any reasons for the flip-flop, and refuses to discuss
it.
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Do ya even read what you post?
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
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| User: "george" |
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| Title: Re: 9/11 Still Makes Me Laugh |
23 Jul 2005 03:29:35 PM |
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6ft_tall_and_bulletproff wrote:
What's up with the 9/11 makes me laugh. Surely this isnt a ref. to Sept 11
bombings. Regardless that number from this point on should always be
respected.
Oh its just one of the resident sickos trying to get his IQ into the
low single digits (and failing)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: US insider says explosives destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11 |
18 Jun 2005 06:54:47 PM |
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On 18 Jun 2005 08:19:39 -0700, "lensman1955" <lensman1955@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Give me a legitimate, valid engineer or architect who has stated that
the evidence suggests that the Towers were brought down by explosives.
Van Romero, numbnuts.
Then explain how they managed to cut supports and wire explosives while
no one was looking AND managed the descent to begin at exactly the
right floor.
Wow. A compound strawman.
I'm going to have to look up Van Romero. Thanks. However, elsewhere in
the thread, I've seen it posted that he changed his mind on the
deliberate implosion theory.
Here is the text of the 9/21/01 article.
Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says
By John Fleck
Journal Staff Writer
A New Mexico explosives expert says he now believes there were no
explosives in the World Trade Center towers, contrary to comments he
made the day of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
"Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," said Van
Romero, a vice president at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and
Technology.
The day of the attack, Romero told the Journal the towers' collapse,
as seen in news videotapes, looked as though it had been triggered by
carefully placed explosives.
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed
looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
Romero supports other experts, who have said the intense heat of the
jet fuel fires weakened the skyscrapers' steel structural beams to the
point that they gave way under the weight of the floors above. That
set off a chain reaction, as upper floors pancaked onto lower ones.
Romero said he believes still it is possible that the final collapse
of each building was triggered by a sudden pressure pulse caused when
the fire reached an electrical transformer or other source of
combustion within the building.
But he said he now believes explosives would not have been needed to
create the collapse seen in video images.
Conspiracy theorists have seized on Romero's comments as evidence for
their argument that someone else, possibly the U.S. government, was
behind the attack on the Trade Center.
Romero said he has been bombarded with electronic mail from the
conspiracy theorists.
"I'm very upset about that," he said. "I'm not trying to say anything
did or didn't happen."
(C) 2001, Albuquerque Journal
Reprinted for Fair Use Only
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