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15 Jun 2004 08:47:22 PM |
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Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
"ViperSpit" <Spit@MSN.com> wrote in message
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ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
THEY SIT BACK IN THEIR CORNERS THROWING STONES AND HAVE NO
SOLUTIONS AT ALL, JUST WHINING AND COMPLAINING WHILE THEY SIT ON THEIR
FAT ASSES IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER SLINGING CRAP THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING
ABOUT EXCEPT WHAT THEY "SEE IN THE MEDIA" (THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF
WHINY GUTS).
Exactly.
Today's Demmies are total mental assholes.
Please pardon my French.
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| User: "Bryan" |
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16 Jun 2004 07:55:06 PM |
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300,000+ new jobs a month! wrote:
"ViperSpit" <Spit@MSN.com> wrote in message
news:10cv8q84gl0mj7b@corp.supernews.com...
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
THEY SIT BACK IN THEIR CORNERS THROWING STONES AND HAVE NO
SOLUTIONS AT ALL, JUST WHINING AND COMPLAINING WHILE THEY SIT ON THEIR
FAT ASSES IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER SLINGING CRAP THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING
ABOUT EXCEPT WHAT THEY "SEE IN THE MEDIA" (THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF
WHINY GUTS).
Exactly.
Today's Demmies are total mental assholes.
Please pardon my French.
The sad thing is that Democrats used to have a platform with a message.
Their party have been overcome by ultra-Liberal far-left socialist
rhetoric. The Republicans nearly suffered the same hi-jacking a few
years ago with less than balance with the moral-majority.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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15 Jun 2004 09:15:45 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:47:22 GMT, "300,000+ new jobs a month!"
<BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
"ViperSpit" <Spit@MSN.com> wrote in message
news:10cv8q84gl0mj7b@corp.supernews.com...
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
THEY SIT BACK IN THEIR CORNERS THROWING STONES AND HAVE NO
SOLUTIONS AT ALL,
Budget - Kerry will freeze spending at rate of inflation, other than
for education and security, and will bring back pay-go.
That will fix the budget problem.
Foreign affairs - he won't aliienate the world.
JUST WHINING AND COMPLAINING WHILE THEY SIT ON THEIR
FAT ASSES IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER SLINGING CRAP THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING
ABOUT EXCEPT WHAT THEY "SEE IN THE MEDIA" (THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF
WHINY GUTS).
Exactly.
Today's Demmies are total mental assholes.
Please pardon my French.
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| User: "Bob" |
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15 Jun 2004 10:03:22 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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Budget - Kerry will freeze spending at rate of inflation, other than
for education and security, and will bring back pay-go.
When did Kerry say that?
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
That will fix the budget problem.
Foreign affairs - he won't aliienate the world.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
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| User: "alexbrown77" |
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16 Jun 2004 09:59:40 AM |
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I keep on hearing all of the problems that we are having with social
security and have yet to hear what Kerry wants to do about it. I have
heard that Bush is for privatization but every there is very little
dicussion about it. I know that groups like aarp are pushing to make
it a big issue for the election and hope that they succeed because I
think that it is an important issue...maybe they can touch upon the
dept as well!
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 10:36:13 AM |
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"alexbrown77" <alexandrabrown77@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I keep on hearing all of the problems that we are having with social
security and have yet to hear what Kerry wants to do about it. I have
heard that Bush is for privatization but every there is very little
dicussion about it. I know that groups like aarp are pushing to make
it a big issue for the election and hope that they succeed because I
think that it is an important issue...maybe they can touch upon the
dept as well!
I couldn't find it on Kerry's website. That
means he has not figured out which way
the political winds are blowing yet on that
issue. Kerry is nothing more than a
political opportunist. He has no core
values ... he should never become
president of this great nation.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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15 Jun 2004 10:50:29 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:03:22 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:48bvc0pm3k949q6hl580h3iv4rr87vs1v5@4ax.com...
Budget - Kerry will freeze spending at rate of inflation, other than
for education and security, and will bring back pay-go.
When did Kerry say that?
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I remember it well.
Going backwards.
That's why they had to take it down, Bob. Because a Dem was president
and sometimes it would go backwards, not just forwards. Looked bad for
the debt clock folk who wanted to use it as a gimmick to help repubs.
That will fix the budget problem.
Foreign affairs - he won't aliienate the world.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists as
he can.
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 08:36:48 AM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:a4gvc01l7e4o2h5g4fs0rdq7c9tapviacb@4ax.com...
Budget - Kerry will freeze spending at rate of inflation, other than
for education and security, and will bring back pay-go.
When did Kerry say that?
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I will accept that on faith.
That bit of information changes
Kerry from a liar to deceitful,
which seems to be in the dna
of democrats lately.
Foreign affairs - he won't aliienate the world.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists as
he can.
I'm not interested in what Kerry
won't do. I'm interested in what
he will do to hunt down and
eliminate radical Muslims. Your
assumptions above I don't
agree with, and are not part
of my question.
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| User: "PookinPnub" |
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16 Jun 2004 09:40:35 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in
news:NwYzc.43960$Kd5.37701@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
To hell with just Muslims, let's hunt down radical Christians, Buddhists,
Jews, ANYONE that doesn't conform to our way of thinking. To hell with
freedom right? To you that only means while they think like you!
--
"It's interesting. I see all these political ads and all these
commentators say it's our job as Americans to vote. Let me tell
you something, with Bush in charge of the economy, this might
be the only job you have all year." -Jay Leno
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 09:52:47 AM |
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"PookinPnub" <pookinpnub@allthewrongplaces.biz> wrote in message
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in
news:NwYzc.43960$Kd5.37701@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
To hell with just Muslims, let's hunt down radical Christians, Buddhists,
Jews,
Only if they are targeting innocent
Americans, like the radical Muslims.
ANYONE that doesn't conform to our way of thinking.
Incorrect. I don't give a rats ***** what
they think. If they are trying to kill
Americans, they should be hunted
down and eliminated.
To hell with
freedom right? To you that only means while they think like you!
For those who are trying to kill
Americans, damn right.
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| User: "300,000+ new jobs a month!" |
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16 Jun 2004 09:46:03 AM |
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"PookinPnub" <pookinpnub@allthewrongplaces.biz> wrote in message
news:Xns950A62CC499BDpookinpnuballthewron@216.168.3.44...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in
news:NwYzc.43960$Kd5.37701@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
To hell with just Muslims, let's hunt down radical Christians, Buddhists,
Jews, ANYONE that doesn't conform to our way of thinking. To hell with
freedom right? To you that only means while they think like you!
Obviously sick liberals would simply allow Muslim Terrorists to continue to
attack us mercilessly, and do nothing in response.
Come to think of it, that's basically what Clinton and Gore did for 8 years,
while the Muslim Terrorists continued to attack our embassies, our buildings
in the United States, and our Navy ships.....
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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16 Jun 2004 03:41:36 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:46:03 GMT, "300,000+ new jobs a month!"
<BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
"PookinPnub" <pookinpnub@allthewrongplaces.biz> wrote in message
news:Xns950A62CC499BDpookinpnuballthewron@216.168.3.44...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in
news:NwYzc.43960$Kd5.37701@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
To hell with just Muslims, let's hunt down radical Christians, Buddhists,
Jews, ANYONE that doesn't conform to our way of thinking. To hell with
freedom right? To you that only means while they think like you!
Obviously sick liberals would simply allow Muslim Terrorists to continue to
attack us mercilessly, and do nothing in response.
Lady, Japan attacks. After a brief foray in Japan Bush attacks China,
saying they all look alike to him.
That sort of thing makes more terrorists, it does'nt reduce the
number.
Afghanistan, working with allies around the world, makes sense.
Making huge numbers of NEW enemies does not.
Come to think of it, that's basically what Clinton and Gore did for 8 years,
while the Muslim Terrorists continued to attack our embassies, our buildings
in the United States, and our Navy ships.....
Ashcroft put terrorism off his list of budget priorities, and the head
of anti-terrorism, Richarde Clarke, points out the Bush admin was
pretty much oblivious to the threat.
He points out that about the WORST thing you could do to fight
terrorists is invade Iraq.
It's like FDR invading China after Pearl Harbor.
But I know, you you conservatives they all look alike.
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 04:10:52 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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Making huge numbers of NEW enemies does not.
Pure speculation, but amusing.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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16 Jun 2004 09:47:55 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:36:48 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:a4gvc01l7e4o2h5g4fs0rdq7c9tapviacb@4ax.com...
Budget - Kerry will freeze spending at rate of inflation, other than
for education and security, and will bring back pay-go.
When did Kerry say that?
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I will accept that on faith.
That bit of information changes
Kerry from a liar to deceitful,
Do you think we should elect as President someone honest about
government finances Bob?
IF so, why in God's name do you support Bush, the most dishonest
President imaginable on govt finances.
President Bush makes Rosy Scenario look like a blushing virgin Bob.
Let's look at the record here. For 12 years of ReaganBush we had
budget projections which were overly optimistic, with clearly phony
assumptions. Then we had 8 years of Clinton where each and every year
the actual results came in better than promised, and the assumptions
were close to those of private economists, ususally more modest than
the private economic forecasts. Now we are back to Repubs and for
three years the actual results are WILDLY worse than projected, and
the assumptions in our budget are so dishonest to knock an accountant
right off his stool.
We have two cultures on this Bob, the tremendously dishonest
Republican culture, starting with Reagan, and the completely honest
Dem culture of Clinton.
Kerry is a Dem. He is from the culture which believes in telling the
truth about budgets.
If you really cared you would blast Bush as the most dishonest
budgeteer since anyone can remember. Maybe forever.
which seems to be in the dna
of democrats lately.
Foreign affairs - he won't aliienate the world.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists as
he can.
I'm not interested in what Kerry
won't do. I'm interested in what
he will do to hunt down and
eliminate radical Muslims. Your
assumptions above I don't
agree with, and are not part
of my question.
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| User: "300,000+ new jobs a month!" |
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16 Jun 2004 12:06:46 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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Kerry is a Dem. He is from the culture which believes in telling the
truth about budgets.
LOL! Good one, George! You had us going for a second there, thought you
had decided to start telling the truth for a change.
But no, then we realized you were lying about Johnboy, once again.
Oh well.....
Here's Kerry's record concerning his "telling the truth" about economic
stuff, George:
Kerry Flip-Flopped On Double Taxation Of Dividends
December 2002: Kerry Favored Ending Double Taxation Of Dividends.
"[T]o encourage investments in the jobs of the future - I think we should
eliminate the tax on capital gains for investments in critical technology
companies - zero capital gains on $100 million issuance of stock if it's
held for 5 years and has created real jobs. And we should attempt to end the
double taxation of dividends."
(Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At The City Club Of Cleveland, 12/3/02)
May 2003: Kerry Said He Opposed Ending Double Taxation Of Dividends.
"Kerry also reiterated his opposition to the Republican plan to cut taxes
on stock dividends. 'This is not the time for a dividends tax cut that goes
to individuals,' he said."
("Kerry Says Time Is On Dems' Side," The Associated Press, 5/8/03)
Kerry Flip-Flopped On 50-Cent Gas Tax Increase
In 1994, Kerry Backed Half-Dollar Increase In Gas Tax.
"Kerry said [the Concord Coalition's scorecard] did not accurately reflect
individual lawmakers' efforts to cut the deficit. 'It doesn't reflect my $43
billion package of cuts or my support for a 50-cent increase in the gas tax,
' Kerry said."
(Jill Zuckman, "Deficit-Watch Group Gives High Marks To 7 N.E. Lawmakers,"
The Boston Globe, 3/1/94)
Two Years Later, Kerry Flip-Flopped.
"Kerry no longer supports the 50-cent [gas tax] hike, nor the 25-cent hike
proposed by the [Concord] coalition."
(Michael Grunwald, "Kerry Gets Low Mark On Budgeting," The Boston Globe,
4/30/96)
Kerry Flip-Flopped On Eliminating Marriage Penalty For Middle Class
Kerry Said He Will Fight To Keep Tax Relief For Married Couples.
"Howard Dean and Gephardt are going to put the marriage penalty back in
place. So if you get married in America, we're going to charge you more
taxes. I do not want to do that." (Fox News' "Special Report," 10/23/03)
Said Democrats Fought To End Marriage Penalty Tax.
"We fought hard to get rid of the marriage penalty." (MSNBC's "News Live,"
7/31/03)
But, In 1998, Kerry Voted Against Eliminating Marriage Penalty Relief For
Married Taxpayers With Combined Incomes Less Than $50,000 Per Year, Saving
Taxpayers $46 Billion Over 10 Years.
(S. 1415, CQ Vote #154: Rejected 48-50: R 5-49; D 43-1, 6/10/98, Kerry Voted
Yea)
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 10:32:41 AM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:a1n0d0tpbps0amcc21e1ju6irm2ua66h92@4ax.com...
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I will accept that on faith.
That bit of information changes
Kerry from a liar to deceitful,
Do you think we should elect as President someone honest about
government finances Bob?
As I have told you over and over,
I am not happy with Bush's domestic
policy. Why can't you remember
that?
We have two cultures on this Bob, the tremendously dishonest
Republican culture, starting with Reagan, and the completely honest
Dem culture of Clinton.
That is a joke, right?
Kerry is a Dem. He is from the culture which believes in telling the
truth about budgets.
More *****.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists as
he can.
I'm not interested in what Kerry
won't do. I'm interested in what
he will do to hunt down and
eliminate radical Muslims. Your
assumptions above I don't
agree with, and are not part
of my question.
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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16 Jun 2004 10:51:33 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:GzZzc.48$vA5.14@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:a1n0d0tpbps0amcc21e1ju6irm2ua66h92@4ax.com...
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I will accept that on faith.
That bit of information changes
Kerry from a liar to deceitful,
Do you think we should elect as President someone honest about
government finances Bob?
As I have told you over and over,
I am not happy with Bush's domestic
policy. Why can't you remember
that?
We have two cultures on this Bob, the tremendously dishonest
Republican culture, starting with Reagan, and the completely honest
Dem culture of Clinton.
That is a joke, right?
Kerry is a Dem. He is from the culture which believes in telling the
truth about budgets.
More *****.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists
as
he can.
I'm not interested in what Kerry
won't do. I'm interested in what
he will do to hunt down and
eliminate radical Muslims. Your
assumptions above I don't
agree with, and are not part
of my question.
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for national
security?
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Jun 2004 10:51:33 AM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:GzZzc.48$vA5.14@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:a1n0d0tpbps0amcc21e1ju6irm2ua66h92@4ax.com...
By the way, here is some evidence that
you cannot trust Kerry:
April 7, 2004
"By 2000, we were on the road to saving
Social Security and we were paying down
our national debt for the first time since
Andrew Jackson was president - 170 years
ago. The numbers on the national debt clock
were spinning backwards."
That is not political spin.
That is either an intentional lie or
an unintentional mistake. Has he
retracted that error?
Or, as always Bob, you don't know the facts and assume that someone
seeing it differently from you must be lying.
By 2000 the national debt clock was spinning backwards at times.
That's right, going backwards Bob. Numbers getting smaller, not
bigger.
I will accept that on faith.
That bit of information changes
Kerry from a liar to deceitful,
Do you think we should elect as President someone honest about
government finances Bob?
As I have told you over and over,
I am not happy with Bush's domestic
policy. Why can't you remember
that?
We have two cultures on this Bob, the tremendously dishonest
Republican culture, starting with Reagan, and the completely honest
Dem culture of Clinton.
That is a joke, right?
Kerry is a Dem. He is from the culture which believes in telling the
truth about budgets.
More *****.
What will he do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
What we did before Iraq.
What will Kerry do to hunt down
and eliminate radical Muslims?
But more importantly Bob he won't create a nest to grow more and more
terrorists.
President Bush has incubators plugged in to make as many terrorists
as
he can.
I'm not interested in what Kerry
won't do. I'm interested in what
he will do to hunt down and
eliminate radical Muslims. Your
assumptions above I don't
agree with, and are not part
of my question.
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for national
security?
I agree.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 01:02:23 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
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| User: "300,000+ new jobs a month" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:04:12 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
We have gained the ability to fight a necessary war against terrorism.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:15:58 PM |
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"300,000+ new jobs a month" <BadNewsForKerry@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:MQ0Ac.12922$Y3.12662@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
We have gained the ability to fight a necessary war against terrorism.
No, we have found out that we lashed out against the wrong target and we
have heavily decreased our ability to fight anywhere.
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:16:31 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d16vl1lkv2f8a@corp.supernews.com...
"300,000+ new jobs a month" <BadNewsForKerry@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:MQ0Ac.12922$Y3.12662@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
We have gained the ability to fight a necessary war against terrorism.
No, we have found out that we lashed out against the wrong target and we
have heavily decreased our ability to fight anywhere.
No, we "found out" no such thing. And we're fighting where we SHOULD be
fighting.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:29:12 PM |
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"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote in message
news:j01Ac.51035$0y.20593@attbi_s03...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d16vl1lkv2f8a@corp.supernews.com...
"300,000+ new jobs a month" <BadNewsForKerry@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:MQ0Ac.12922$Y3.12662@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
We have gained the ability to fight a necessary war against terrorism.
No, we have found out that we lashed out against the wrong target and we
have heavily decreased our ability to fight anywhere.
No, we "found out" no such thing. And we're fighting where we SHOULD be
fighting.
So the Adminstration continues to say despite being compared to "Baghdad
Bob."
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 01:05:18 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
The people of Iraq have a chance for freedom.
radical Muslims are being killed on a daily basis.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 01:36:42 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us. Ask the families of the 800+ dead if his removal
was worth the effort.
The people of Iraq have a chance for freedom.
Or a sectarian civil war. Place your bets.
radical Muslims are being killed on a daily basis.
Along with a lot more innocent people.
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| User: "300,000+ new jobs a month" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:05:10 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d14m68ejbmk4b@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us.
Prove it.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:18:51 PM |
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"300,000+ new jobs a month" <BadNewsForKerry@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:GR0Ac.12927$Y3.10792@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d14m68ejbmk4b@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us.
Prove it.
Proving negatives -shifting the burden. Try again.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 01:53:26 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d14m68ejbmk4b@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us. Ask the families of the 800+ dead if his removal
was worth the effort.
He was a threat. You ask them and get back
to me with your results.
The people of Iraq have a chance for freedom.
Or a sectarian civil war. Place your bets.
Or <insert whatever you want> could
also happen. If Saddam were still in
power, there would be no "or's".
radical Muslims are being killed on a daily basis.
Along with a lot more innocent people.
And I'm sure you can substantiate that
more innocent people are being killed
than radical Muslims, right?
Don't you ever get tired of all this whining?
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:10:57 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:SB0Ac.146$nA1.30@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d14m68ejbmk4b@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us. Ask the families of the 800+ dead if his
removal
was worth the effort.
He was a threat. You ask them and get back
to me with your results.
Please explain the nature of the threat.
The people of Iraq have a chance for freedom.
Or a sectarian civil war. Place your bets.
Or <insert whatever you want> could
also happen. If Saddam were still in
power, there would be no "or's".
No, there would probably not be a civil war.
radical Muslims are being killed on a daily basis.
Along with a lot more innocent people.
And I'm sure you can substantiate that
more innocent people are being killed
than radical Muslims, right?
A single car bomb takes out one radical Muslim and how many innocent people?
This is not to mention the collateral damage of our military operations.
Those dead all have family who have memories.
Don't you ever get tired of all this whining?
Do you ever get tired of your denial?
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:12:52 PM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d16m8h2ogf998@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:SB0Ac.146$nA1.30@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d14m68ejbmk4b@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OW%zc.20149$I%4.10057@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10d12ln2i5kmdae@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:lXZzc.43$nA1.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Since you are evading this question,
you realize why I favor Bush over
Kerry. Kerry is dangerous for our
national security.
Wasting our military on an unnecessary war is not dangerous
for
national
security?
I agree.
Good, so what have we gained for our 800+ dead in Iraq?
Saddam Hussein is no longer in power in Iraq.
He was no threat to us. Ask the families of the 800+ dead if his
removal
was worth the effort.
He was a threat. You ask them and get back
to me with your results.
Please explain the nature of the threat.
First YOU explain why he "was no threat to us", pal.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: WHAT ARE DEMOCRATS DOING ABOUT AMERICAN PROBLEMS ?? |
16 Jun 2004 02:18:07 PM |
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"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote in message
news:UY0Ac.51012$0y.22258@attbi_s03...
He was a threat. You ask them and get back
to me with your results.
Please explain the nature of the threat.
First YOU explain why he "was no threat to us", pal.
Shifting the burden. Try again.
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