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"UnfitKerry" |
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04 May 2004 07:58:36 PM |
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Re: What do you get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood? |
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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04 May 2004 10:38:55 PM |
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"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
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It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them.
There is no evidence that these people were either 'enemies', nor
'combattants'.
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-My Real Name
PRO-AMERICA / ANTI-BUSH
Be Patriotic: VOTE BUSH OUT
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Listen to Air America Radio
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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05 May 2004 01:11:32 AM |
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
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It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them.
There is no evidence that these people were either 'enemies', nor
'combattants'.
The odds are that they were picked up by accident during some kind of sweep.
60% of the inmates were eventually let go.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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05 May 2004 07:13:41 AM |
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In article <oA%lc.7677$V97.6679@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
nospam@nospam.com says...
The odds are that they were picked up by accident during some kind of sweep.
60% of the inmates were eventually let go.
Upon which they went home, contacted their local insurgent, picked up an RPG
or two and an AK47 and went down the road to wait for the next supply convoy
whereas before they were picked up and tortured their main concern was food on
the table.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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04 May 2004 11:10:55 PM |
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mr n sez:
"There is no evidence that these people were either 'enemies', nor
'combattants'..."
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Such genius. Maybe they were domestic help?
There were no misunderstood inmates in Abu Gahraib, no matter how hard you
try to make them out as innocent bystanders. By civilized standards, 99
percent of them should have been executed on the spot, not detained.
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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04 May 2004 11:41:53 PM |
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"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
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"There is no evidence that these people were either 'enemies', nor
'combattants'..."
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Such genius. Maybe they were domestic help?
Maybe they were rounded up for questioning in a routine sweep.
There were no misunderstood inmates in Abu Gahraib, no matter how hard you
try to make them out as innocent bystanders.
How the ***** would YOU know?
By civilized standards, 99 percent of them should have been executed on
the spot, not detained.
And this certainly seems to be the impression of "civilized standards" that
you and your pals are comfortable projecting to the Arab world.
Gee, if these ignorant savages would just shut the ***** up and be conquered
like good little sand niggers our men and women in uniform could come home
toot-sweet, eh?
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-My Real Name
PRO-AMERICA / ANTI-BUSH
Be Patriotic: VOTE BUSH OUT
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Listen to Air America Radio
http://www.airamericaradio.com
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| User: "Rich" |
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04 May 2004 08:07:38 PM |
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BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
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KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat 'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
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| User: "Jamo" |
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04 May 2004 09:54:05 PM |
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"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
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BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me.
John Warner is a Democrat? He's been pretty vocal about his disgust. There
has been a bipartisan condemnation of this whole situation.
We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
The point is that it we are supposed to be _better_ than "them." We're
"civilized." War is war, but there's a difference between being out on the
field of action (where you do what you have to do to survive) and being
locked up and disarmed.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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04 May 2004 08:30:02 PM |
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"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
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BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
And this is why people were already being charged with crimes before the
media attention was given and why 3 different investigations were launched
prior to the media attention.
Youse guys is scary.
rich
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| User: "George Patton" |
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05 May 2004 08:38:39 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<usXlc.7422$V97.933@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:u7Xlc.87683$G_.13160@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
And this is why people were already being charged with crimes before the
media attention was given and why 3 different investigations were launched
prior to the media attention.
Youse guys is scary.
Yes, a bit scary, but it is just the same old right wing nut babble.
The real scary thing is that those mixed up dummies are subject to
jury duty. I guess justice should be blind but not stupid.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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05 May 2004 10:12:11 AM |
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In article <e21a560a.0405050538.3d790b5d@posting.google.com>,
says...
The real scary thing is that those mixed up dummies are subject to
jury duty. I guess justice should be blind but not stupid.
Now that IS scary. I have served on juries with a few of those people. On the
other hand, I have also served on juries where the members showed a hell of a
lot more common sense than did the prosecution.
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| User: "mondaymorning" |
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08 May 2004 07:50:43 AM |
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"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
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BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
From what I understand it is not even considered an effective way to
interrogate prisoners which seems to say it doesn't go too high in the
ranks.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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08 May 2004 09:21:44 AM |
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On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:50:43 GMT, "mondaymorning"
<arheath@prodigy.net> wrote:
"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:u7Xlc.87683$G_.13160@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
From what I understand it is not even considered an effective way to
interrogate prisoners which seems to say it doesn't go too high in the
ranks.
The top levels of the US govt were told about horrible abuses a
hundred times, and did nothing to stop it.
Bremer told them, Powell told them, the Red Cross told them, the
papers told them, human rights groups told them.
Over and over and over.
And they did not do what was required to stop it.
It goes all the way to the top, to President Bush, who heard what was
happening, was told it was going to blow up in our face, who knew it
was horrible, and who probably smirked and told jokes about it.
Instead of doing something to stop it.
It goes all the way to the top.
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08 May 2004 10:01:49 AM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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The top levels of the US govt were told about horrible abuses a
hundred times, and did nothing to stop it.
You're referring to John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, I assume?
Or are you of the opinion that the United States Senate (or at least the
Democrat Element thereof) constitutes one of the "lower" levels of
government?
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| User: "Johnny Bravo" |
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08 May 2004 05:55:43 PM |
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My large labrador retriever just took a giant ***** and the turd looks better
than Theresa Heinz Kerry and believe it or not-speaks more clearly!!
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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08 May 2004 10:18:25 AM |
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On Sat, 08 May 2004 15:01:49 GMT, "Jeanne Frawd Kerree"
<OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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The top levels of the US govt were told about horrible abuses a
hundred times, and did nothing to stop it.
You're referring to John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, I assume?
No you don't. You are the single most dishonest poster I have ever
read.
Or are you of the opinion that the United States Senate (or at least the
Democrat Element thereof) constitutes one of the "lower" levels of
government?
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08 May 2004 11:33:18 AM |
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On Sat, 08 May 2004 08:18:25 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2004 15:01:49 GMT, "Jeanne Frawd Kerree"
<OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:c0rp9055p7p8bkkllon0to1le095sc7o7t@4ax.com...
The top levels of the US govt were told about horrible abuses a
hundred times, and did nothing to stop it.
You're referring to John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, I assume?
No you don't. You are the single most dishonest poster I have ever
read.
Reminds me of Delay yesterday or the day before when he said,
paraphrasing, "Don't let them (the Democrats) play that game. We are
not questioning their patriotism." When in fact that's exactly what
they had been doing.
Republicans have become masters of deflection and misdirection and
accusing others of your own misdeeds.
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04 May 2004 08:24:46 PM |
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Bullseye and UnfitKerry clearly are a couple of ***** wannabes who have
no idea what they are talking about.
The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control, then
you treat him with a degree of humanity.
That's the difference between soldiers and assholes like you two.
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Joe S.
US Army (retired)
"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
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BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
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| User: "Jim E" |
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04 May 2004 11:09:06 PM |
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"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:c79for0uaq@news3.newsguy.com...
Bullseye and UnfitKerry clearly are a couple of ***** wannabes who have
no idea what they are talking about.
The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control, then
you treat him with a degree of humanity.
That's the difference between soldiers and assholes like you two.
Yes of course, and we extract information the old fashion way
we ask pretty please..
ROFLMAO
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Joe S.
US Army (retired)
obviously for good reason
Jim E
"Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:u7Xlc.87683$G_.13160@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like
cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had
they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat
'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions
out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was
unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican
thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
rich
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04 May 2004 11:19:17 PM |
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joe s sez:
"The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control, then
you treat him with a degree of humanity..."
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If you miss your chance to kill your enemy the first time, he thanks his
god. If you get a second chance, thank your god.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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05 May 2004 12:22:37 AM |
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:24:46 -0400, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net>
wrote:
Bullseye and UnfitKerry clearly are a couple of ***** wannabes who have
no idea what they are talking about.
The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control, then
you treat him with a degree of humanity.
That's the difference between soldiers and assholes like you two.
If this kind of treatment elicits information that saves US Soldiers
lives then I'm for it.
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"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
You can never redistribute wealth only poverty. Because of the natural
inequities of man and the nature of wealth it is impossible for all men
to be rich. It is possible for all men to be poor. Just ask any Socialist
they can tell you how. -- Captain Compassion
Joseph R. Darancette
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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05 May 2004 01:08:27 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:409879c5.18303779@news.verizon.net...
On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:24:46 -0400, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net>
wrote:
Bullseye and UnfitKerry clearly are a couple of ***** wannabes who
have
no idea what they are talking about.
The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control,
then
you treat him with a degree of humanity.
That's the difference between soldiers and assholes like you two.
If this kind of treatment elicits information that saves US Soldiers
lives then I'm for it.
Couple of points:
1) as everyone keeps pointing out, torture often doesn't reveal reliable
info;
2) 60% of the inmates at that prison were known to be non-suspects picked up
by accident;
3) encouraging Army Reservists to participate was an incredibly stupid,
incompetent and foolish thing to do, assuming there was any justification
for the torture in the first place;
4) seeing how incompetent the interregators were by involving Army
Reservists of all people, how could you trust their judgement on anything?
5) Using the mathematics that justified the invasion of Iraq, how do you
balance the equation for potential harm to ALL Americans, both in Iraq and
around the world, with the handful of GI lives that you might conceivably
have saved by doing what was done, assuming the best possible circumstances
(which these were not)?
OK, 5 points, but I'm interested in seeing you do the math any better for
point # 5.
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| User: "cLIeNUX user" |
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05 May 2004 01:34:18 AM |
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A burning Bush. Hallelujah!
Rick (Richard Allen) Hohensee
The Responsible Party
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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05 May 2004 10:33:20 AM |
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 06:08:27 GMT, "LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:409879c5.18303779@news.verizon.net...
On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:24:46 -0400, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net>
wrote:
Bullseye and UnfitKerry clearly are a couple of ***** wannabes who
have
no idea what they are talking about.
The whole idea is simple: When an enemy combatant is armed and fighting
you, kill him. When he is disarmed and under your complete control,
then
you treat him with a degree of humanity.
That's the difference between soldiers and assholes like you two.
If this kind of treatment elicits information that saves US Soldiers
lives then I'm for it.
Couple of points:
1) as everyone keeps pointing out, torture often doesn't reveal reliable
info;
2) 60% of the inmates at that prison were known to be non-suspects picked up
by accident;
3) encouraging Army Reservists to participate was an incredibly stupid,
incompetent and foolish thing to do, assuming there was any justification
for the torture in the first place;
4) seeing how incompetent the interregators were by involving Army
Reservists of all people, how could you trust their judgement on anything?
5) Using the mathematics that justified the invasion of Iraq, how do you
balance the equation for potential harm to ALL Americans, both in Iraq and
around the world, with the handful of GI lives that you might conceivably
have saved by doing what was done, assuming the best possible circumstances
(which these were not)?
OK, 5 points, but I'm interested in seeing you do the math any better for
point # 5.
Perhaps we should turn over questioning to Iraqis. Many Kurds would be
happy to get the job.
Is there something in the new Iraqi Constution about cruel and unusual
punishment?
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"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
You can never redistribute wealth only poverty. Because of the natural
inequities of man and the nature of wealth it is impossible for all men
to be rich. It is possible for all men to be poor. Just ask any Socialist
they can tell you how. -- Captain Compassion
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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05 May 2004 11:34:33 AM |
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In article <40990888.2846523@news.verizon.net>,
says...
Is there something in the new Iraqi Constution about cruel and unusual
punishment?
What new Iraqi Constitution? Seems to have had about the same half-life as
Bush's plans to go to Mars and the Moon -- and about the same visibility.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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05 May 2004 07:16:02 AM |
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In article <409879c5.18303779@news.verizon.net>,
says...
If this kind of treatment elicits information that saves US Soldiers
lives then I'm for it.
Well, it doesn't.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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| Title: Re: What do you get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood? |
04 May 2004 11:05:51 PM |
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In article <u7Xlc.87683$G_.13160@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
says...
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat 'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context
Out of context? They are the context.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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04 May 2004 10:44:04 PM |
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 01:07:38 GMT, "Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote:
BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat 'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
In other words, your view is that the world is justified in saying the
Americans are no better than Saddam Hussein was.
Ok.
rich
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: What do you get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood? |
05 May 2004 12:25:49 AM |
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:44:04 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2004 01:07:38 GMT, "Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote:
BULLESYE and well said
"UnfitKerry" <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message
news:0%Wlc.7382$V97.1735@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
KerryUnfitSayHisNavyPeers wrote:
Q. What do get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood?
A. A stinking pile of schittte.
It's a reasonable interrogation method to use on enemy combatants -
strip them naked, humiliate them. It would be interesting if the news
media did some investigating for a change and reported what actions
those prisoners had taken against our men. How many Americans had they
shot, maimed, and killed? Why doesn't the news media report THAT?
They're not being "tortured", as some of the Mentally Overheated
liberals had attempted to assert; that much is clear. They ARE being
humiliated; that is also clear. But humiliation IS an acceptable
interrogation method in times of war.
The news media is falling down on the job, once again.
BULLSEYE and well said.....the idea that this has become a democrat 'cause'
doesn't sit well with me. We are viewing these photos and descriptions out
of context and being told by the media how we should feel about
them......around our lunch time table discussion.......there was unanimity
we wished it didn't happen or be this way, but this is WAR and if ANY of
those combat prisoners would've had weapons do you think they would've
hestiated to kill......none of my co-workers democrat or republican thought
the media was being fair in the approach taken.
In other words, your view is that the world is justified in saying the
Americans are no better than Saddam Hussein was.
Ok.
Saddam was killing prisoners. I am not aware of such charges made
against US jailors.
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"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
You can never redistribute wealth only poverty. Because of the natural
inequities of man and the nature of wealth it is impossible for all men
to be rich. It is possible for all men to be poor. Just ask any Socialist
they can tell you how. -- Captain Compassion
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: What do you get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood? |
05 May 2004 01:10:03 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:40987a5d.18455617@news.verizon.net...
On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:44:04 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2004 01:07:38 GMT, "Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
In other words, your view is that the world is justified in saying the
Americans are no better than Saddam Hussein was.
Ok.
Saddam was killing prisoners. I am not aware of such charges made
against US jailors.
You dont' read much do you? Murder charges have been brought in two separate
instances that we know of, and the Pentagon is still keeping the "this is an
isolated incident" storyline going.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: What do you get when you stack naked Muslim Terrorists like cordwood? |
05 May 2004 10:22:55 AM |
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 06:10:03 GMT, "LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:40987a5d.18455617@news.verizon.net...
On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:44:04 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2004 01:07:38 GMT, "Rich" <datakeep@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
In other words, your view is that the world is justified in saying the
Americans are no better than Saddam Hussein was.
Ok.
Saddam was killing prisoners. I am not aware of such charges made
against US jailors.
You dont' read much do you? Murder charges have been brought in two separate
instances that we know of, and the Pentagon is still keeping the "this is an
isolated incident" storyline going.
Who brought the charges?
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"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
You can never redistribute wealth only poverty. Because of the natural
inequities of man and the nature of wealth it is impossible for all men
to be rich. It is possible for all men to be poor. Just ask any Socialist
they can tell you how. -- Captain Compassion
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
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