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User: "Big Bush Mandate"
Date: 06 Nov 2004 01:35:22 PM
Object: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party?
"Jas" <jasc@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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What's really bad about democrats losing is everybody who thinks they won,
feels any half witted explanation they can devise to explain the loss is
verified by past events.

Kerry lost because of you folks lied about Kerry, about the issues, where
Kerry stood on the issues and what Kerry said about the issues and too
many people were unable or unwilling to discern the truth.

LOL! In 2000, the excuse the Demmies offered for their humiliating defeat
was "We failed to get our message out!" In 2002, the excuse the Demmies
offered for their humiliating defeat was "We didn't stand up to the
Republicans, and we let them push us around!" And both times they bemoaned
"low voter turnout", and assured us that a high voter turnout "helps the
Democrats."
So in 2004, the Demmies set out to fix those two problems. They enlisted
the help of billionaires like Michael Moore and George Soros. They
enlisted the help of Hollywood types and rock stars. And of course they
obtained the full help and assistance of almost the entire news media, which
ran one scathing attack on Bush after another, peppered him with questions
at every opportunity, and NEVER challenged or questioned Kerry or HIS
agenda. So they got their message out. They also shifted full-bore to
the fringe left, picking as their chosen candidate the guy with THE most
liberal voting record in the United States Senate. A man who was even to
the left of Ted Kennedy, which is almost an impossibility. So they sure
didn't let the Republicans push them around. And they enlisted MTV Nation
and others to "get the vote out".
Once again, the pathetic Demmies got hammered, and suffered an even MORE
humiliating defeat than they suffered in 2000 and 2002.
So what did those humiliated Demmies conclude? "You folks lied about
everything! Waa! Waa!"
The Demmies have utterly convinced themselves it is never THEIR fault, THEIR
crappy ideology. Oh no, the Democrat Party has decided instead that it is
The Perpetual Victim, and has concluded that EVERYBODY ELSE is responsible
for the fate that they and their Party continue to suffer.
In short, the Demmies have declared themselves to be little children, at the
mercy of the Mean Adults in the world.
What a pathetic party........
.

User: "Topaz"

Title: Re: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party? 06 Nov 2004 02:54:35 PM
By Dr. William Pierce
"Last week I gave an interview to an English-language radio station in
Teheran. The program was "The Islamic Voice of Iran." We talked about
a
number of things, including Ariel Sharon's visit to the White House,
which was taking place at the time, and about President Bush's
popularity ratings. The Iranian interviewer asked me whether Bush
would
take a more sensible, pro-American policy in the Middle East or would
continue taking orders from Israel, to the detriment of American
interests, the way the Clinton administration had.
Of course, I explained to him that there was really no difference
between Republicans and Democrats in that regard. They both dance to
whatever tune the Jews are playing at the moment, and that George Bush
would no more dare to disobey the Jews than Bill Clinton would. I told
the Iranian interviewer that there are minor differences between the
Republican Party and the Democratic Party, with the Democrats
pandering
a bit more to the welfare class and the Republicans paying a bit more
lip service to things such as military preparedness and energy
production, but that on the really essential issues -- immigration,
racial policy, media control, foreign policy -- both parties do what
they're told and don't give the Jews any back talk.
The Iranian had a hard time understanding this. If one party -- the
Democrats, say -- were controlled by Jews and supported Jewish
interests, then surely there would be another party -- presumably the
Republicans -- representing the interests of the American people. He
couldn't understand how the Jews, making up only 2.5 per cent of the
U.S. population, could have the whole political process under their
control and in particular could dictate U.S. foreign policy in the
Middle East, regardless of who is in the White House and which party
controls the Congress. What about the other 97.5 per cent of the
population? They also have interests, and they can vote. Why aren't
their interests supported by some political party?
The difficulty my Iranian interviewer had in understanding how
politics
works in America has two facets. One of these is the dominant
influence
the mass media of news and entertainment, which are largely in the
hands
of the country's very small Jewish minority, have on public opinion
and
attitudes, on the mass culture, and on the political process. In Iran
tradition is much more important in determining public opinion. And
Iran
is a much more homogeneous country, at least in a cultural and
religious
sense, than is the United States. In America the media have to a large
extent weaned the people away from their traditions and from their
cultural and religious roots and substituted a made-in-Hollywood
trash-culture with ersatz traditions in their place. The media are
increasingly important in influencing public opinion everywhere in the
developed countries -- even in Iran, no doubt -- but nowhere has the
process been as thorough and as destructive as it has been in the
United
States.
A second barrier to understanding is the subtlety and indirection
which
is used by the media bosses in achieving their aims. They almost never
make a head-on attack against the traditions or values of the host
population. They look for conflict, for inconsistency, for vice or
hypocrisy or weakness, and they exploit it to gain a foothold. Then
they
use one facet of popular belief or tradition to undermine another. For
example, they will proclaim themselves champions of "fair play," and
then they will persuade the public that fair play requires that no
distinction be made between Asians and Europeans in setting
immigration
policy. If we let Englishmen and Germans and Swedes into America, then
it wouldn't be fair to keep out Vietnamese and Chinese and Pakistanis,
they tell us.
Or they will play on the average American's resentment of governmental
interference in his private affairs to promote the idea that
homosexuality is just as normal as heterosexuality and that neither
the
government nor individuals should make a distinction between the two.
What people do in the privacy of their bedrooms is no one else's
business, therefore the government should require landlords,
employers,
Boy Scout troops, and everyone else to treat homosexuals just like
heterosexuals: a bit of a non sequitur, but the media have been
remarkably successful at using such illogical arguments to shift
public
opinion on a number of issues.
And because the media are able to influence public opinion so
strongly,
all the politicians, Republicans as well as Democrats, dance to their
tune. The politicians understand that the tiny Jewish minority, only
2.5
per cent of the population, through their control of the media are the
single most important influence on the public's perception of issues,
of
government policies, and of the politicians themselves -- and
consequently are the single most important influence on the outcome of
elections. And it is for this reason that everyone can safely count on
George Bush's policy toward Israel being whatever the Jews want it to
be.
Anyway, although I explained this as clearly as I could to my Iranian
interrogator, I think he didn't really believe me. He was ready to
accept the fact that the Jews are a very bad influence on American
policy in the Middle East, but he couldn't accept the fact that
through
their control of the mass media of news and entertainment they have
made
irrelevant and meaningless the whole idea of mass democracy. He
couldn't
assimilate the idea that party politics in America has become just a
shell game to keep the rubes confused about what's really happening
and
who's running the country. He knew that Jews are bad news, but he
couldn't grasp the fact that the most powerful country in the world,
economically and militarily, is so totally in their malign grip.
And really, when I try to put myself in the Iranian's shoes, it's hard
for me to believe it myself: a mere 2.5 per cent of the population, a
historically despised and hated group who have been kicked out of
every
country in Europe, and there's not a single mainstream American
politician brave enough to defy them; a tiny, clannish group who have
a
stranglehold on the mighty American nation; a case of the tail wagging
the dog. How do they do it? It doesn't seem possible.
Well, of course, it is possible, and I'll tell you how they do it:
they
do it with images and myths. They do it by controlling the perceptions
that most people have of the world around themselves. The Jews create
myths about what the world is like and then generate false images to
match the myths. And they project these myths and false images of the
world into the minds of their hosts.
I'll give you a specific example of this. There is a new film out by
Universal Pictures. It's called The Fast and the Furious. It's a film
directed at White teenagers, a film designed to give them a particular
image of the world and instill in them a myth about the way the world
works. It's a film about modern, urban teenagers -- specifically
street
gangs in Los Angeles -- and cars and street racing. That might seem
harmless enough, but the street racing is just a gimmick on which to
hang the message, and that message is that the world is multicultural,
and it's good that it's multicultural. It's good not to live in a
White
world, with White friends and White role models and White values and
White standards and traditions. That's boring. That's not cool.
The message is that there's nothing special about being White. The
message is that if one is White, then one should hang out with Blacks
and Asians and mestizos. One should behave like non-Whites, talk like
them, dress like them, be like them. That's what's cool. That's what's
sexy. That's what everybody who's really cool is doing. And when you
feel like having some sex, you just reach for whoever is nearest. It
doesn't matter at all what race the other person is. If you're a White
girl, it's especially cool to have sex with a Black or Asian or
mestizo
male.
That's the most obvious message of the film, but actually it's more
than
that. It's not really that the film says race doesn't matter, that
we're
really all the same; that culture doesn't matter, that all cultures
are
equivalent. The film says that Whites should become non-White, because
non-White is better. The cultural milieu of the film is not raceless
or
a little of this and a little of that. The cultural milieu is Black.
The
culture is hip-hop. The music is hip-hop. The clothing style, with the
baggy shorts and the rest, is hip-hop. It's Black. That is the world
into which White teenagers should blend, the world to which they
should
subordinate themselves.
Surely, White teenagers aren't actually absorbing that message. Are
they? Yes, unfortunately, many of them are. The Fast and the Furious
is
drawing bigger crowds than any other film produced by Hollywood this
season. It grossed $78 million in its first ten days. White teenagers
are flocking to it more than to any other movie. The attraction, of
course, is the action, the street racing, the exciting car stunts.
That's the gimmick that pulls them in. But that's not the message. The
message -- which of course, is subliminal: that is, which is intended
to
change the kids' perception of the world at a subconscious level -- is
exactly what I just described: it's cool to be part of the hip-hop
culture; it's cool to be multicultural; it's cool not to act White,
think White, or be White.
That's the message, and it's a Jewish message: Jewish in its
conception,
Jewish in its promotion, Jewish in its genocidal intent.
You think I'm imagining things? I'll read to you from a story about
the
film in last Saturday's edition of the Los Angeles Times. I quote:
"Hollywood was stunned when the youth-oriented action film The Fast
and
the Furious streaked past the competition to become the number-one
movie
.. . . With its relatively unknown cast of Latinos, Asians, and
African-Americans, heavy doses of high-speed chases, and a driving
hip-hop soundtrack, the movie defied expectations . . . . But the
teen-oriented movie's success isn't so surprising when one glimpses
the
youthful crowds flocking to theaters . . . . With their ultra-baggy
cargo shorts, doo-rags wrapped around their heads, and bodies
festooned
with tattoos and piercings, the look of these young moviegoers mirrors
the multiethnic melange of actors on the screen. . . .
"Hollywood likes to pride itself on being ahead of the cultural curve,
but with last summer's sassy white-versus-black cheerleading comedy
Bring It On grossing $68.4 million domestically and this winter's Save
the Last Dance, with its once-taboo interracial dating, raking in more
than $90 million in North America alone, the studios have only begun
to
catch up with the colorblind nature of today's MTV generation.
"Rob Cohen, who directed The Fast and the Furious, said the film not
only reflects today's "multiculti" youth culture without purposely
drawing attention to it, but depicts what is really going on. When the
movie opened, it drew a cross-section of races, Cohen said. Surveys
taken at theaters where The Fast and the Furious played showed that 50
per cent of moviegoers were white, 24 per cent were Hispanic, 10 per
cent were black, and 11 per cent were Asian. "I look at this and go,
'This is exactly what I'm talking about,'" Cohen said. . . .
Attracting
a young audience across the country -- a mainstay of big summer
popcorn
hits -- The Fast and the Furious has grossed an estimated $78 million
in
less than two weeks and is on track to make well over $100 million."
--
end of quote --
I want to emphasize a couple of things in what I just read to you,
besides the fact that the director of the film is the Jew Rob Cohen
and
the studio is Universal Pictures, owned by the Jew Edgar Bronfman.
First, note that Mr. Cohen is very much aware of the racial angle in
his
film. That's all he talks about, not the racing stunts. And note that
he
says he put the racial propaganda into his film in way that would not
"draw attention to it": that is, he put it in as subliminal
propaganda.
One other thing: the story in the Los Angeles Times implies that this
film and other films like it are imitating society, not the other way
around. But that's not true. These Jewish films are propaganda
deliberately designed to move society in the direction the Jews want
it
to go. White kids didn't start wearing baggy shorts and backward
baseball caps and listening to rap music and using jive talk just
because that's what young Blacks were doing: it was Jewish films and
Jewish television and Jewish advertising that pushed them in this
direction, that persuaded them it is cool to imitate Blacks.
The Times story refers to the studios catching up with "today's MTV
generation." But really, how did it become the "MTV generation"? That
name is appropriate just because it is MTV which has been the single
largest influence on White teenagers in moving them away from their
roots in their own race and making rootless cosmopolitans out of them.
MTV has been the foremost promoter of the hip-hop lifestyle among
young
Whites. And I hardly need to remind you that it is the very Jewish
Sumner Redstone, originally known as Murray Rothstein to his parents,
who owns MTV. Redstone's MTV and his Paramount Pictures studio may be
a
little ahead of the other Hollywood studios, but they're all pushing
in
the same direction as hard as they can.
This is an essential point: namely, that the Jewish media are pushing
our society, and not the other way around, and the Jews are
understandably reluctant to admit that. Last Saturday's Los Angeles
Times story interviewed another Jewish film producer in this regard,
and
I quote from the story: "Marc Abraham, one of the producers of Bring
It
On, noted: 'There is a much more interracial aspect in today's culture
than the way this country used to be. Any movie that reflects that --
and it doesn't mean they'll all be hits like The Fast and the Furious
--
will ring true with the audience.'" -- end of quote --
As I indicated, that is deliberate misdirection. And there's more
misdirection in the Times story. It also interviews the Black director
of Sumner Redstone's racemixing film Save the Last Dance, and I quote:
"'The movie business is certainly catching up with what's happening in
society,' said Thomas Carter, who directed Save the Last Dance. 'Youth
culture has been shifting a long time . . . . Places like MTV are
right
on the edge and totally involved in the change. In filmmaking we lag
behind.'" -- end of quote -- But of course, Redstone's MTV, which as
Carter notes is "totally involved in the change," is into filmmaking
too. Anyway, it's really an artificial distinction to contrast Jewish
television with Jewish cinema. Redsone isn't the only Jewish media
boss
who is deeply involved in both media.
One of Bronfman's subordinates, the Jew Marc Shmuger, says it a little
more plainly, and again I quote from last Saturday's Los Angeles Times
story: "'I think the segregated groupings are breaking down in today's
America, and I think today's movie audience is a complex mix,' said
Marc
Shmuger, vice chairman of Universal Pictures, which released The Fast
and the Furious. But Shmuger warned that if the movie industry starts
making multiethnic movies 'in a calculating and cynical fashion,' the
audience will sense that and stay away." -- end of quote -- In other
words, keep the propaganda subtle, keep it subliminal, so that we
don't
tip off the goyim that it's really propaganda.
I'll read one more section from the Los Angeles Times story. I quote:
"Just as The Fast and the Furious shows young people of all races
gathered in large groups unmindful of their racial differences and not
hung up on sex, Gary Scott Thompson, one of the film's writers, said
today's young movie audiences also are that way. 'It used to be that a
boy and a girl would go on a date,' he said. 'Now what's happening is
groups of kids who are friends -- multiracial boys and girls -- all
move
in date packs together. It's like a date, but they don't consider it
dating. Some of them might neck; some of them might not. None of them
think anything much about it. They are much more open when talking
about
sex . . . . They've broken down the cultural barriers.' . . . Rob
Friedman, vice chairman of Paramount Pictures Motion Picture Group,
said
the studio began noticing the colorblind nature of young audiences
with
its 1999 high school pigskin drama Varsity Blues. 'It's really about
their peers, regardless of race, and to a certain extent gender as
well,' Friedman said. 'When it came to Save the Last Dance, it became
more and more apparent young people don't care whether the
relationship
is interracial. The music is great, the story is great.'" -- end of
quote --
As I've already mentioned, Paramount Pictures belongs to Sumner
Redstone, and I hardly need to tell you that his employee Rob Friedman
is a Jew, like nearly all the other executives at Paramount Pictures.
This new development of White teenagers running in "date packs," as
the
scriptwriter put it, with Blacks, Asians, and mestizos and having very
casual and very interracial sex did not evolve spontaneously, as the
media bosses and their employees would have us believe. It has been
promoted deliberately by Hollywood and by television and by Madison
Avenue. Sumner Redstone's MTV may be a bit bolder in this regard than
the other Jewish media, but all of them have been working together for
decades toward the same goal, and that goal is the annihilation of our
people. They say, "Oh, we're just reflecting with our films and our TV
shows and our magazine ads what your society has become all by
itself,"
but that is a conscious, calculated lie. They know exactly what they
have done and are doing, and one can easily sense them gloating over
it
when one reads their remarks in the Los Angeles Times.
I've said this a thousand times already in different words, but when
we
permitted the Jews to come into our society and take over our mass
media
of news and entertainment -- our newspapers and our radio broadcasting
networks and our motion picture and advertising industries and then
television broadcasting -- we handed them the weapons with which they
intended from the beginning to destroy us and now are destroying us.
This program of theirs to corrupt and destroy us didn't begin with the
Second World War and the so-called "Holocaust." It is a consequence of
their nature. The "Holocaust" was not the cause of their destructive
behavior, but rather a consequence.
If you believe that I am hallucinating when I say that, see for
yourself
what Jews such as Edgar Bronfman and Sumner Redstone are producing for
the entertainment of our children, and you try to explain it in any
other way. I know that the majority of our own people, lemmings that
they are, are dancing to the Jews' tune now, along with the
politicians.
That is a shame, but it in no way excuses us from our task. Many of
those who have become blinded by the Jews and have become
collaborators
of the Jews will unavoidably become "collateral damage" in the
struggle
and the chaos which lie ahead, but we must do whatever is necessary to
free our people from the spell cast over them by the Jews. To that
task
I have consecrated my life, and I invite each of you to do likewise.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info http://www.RealNews247.com
.
User: "Jas"

Title: Re: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party? 06 Nov 2004 03:38:32 PM
dummy. thats all utter nonsense.
.
User: "Topaz"

Title: Re: Re: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party? 07 Nov 2004 08:43:02 PM
NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From:
<mailto:
> (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight
Sept.04/2002
It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intenisty and scope... Fact
is, they
are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists who by now have
a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
=============
The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.
So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
=== =====
Roy Libby
=== =====
Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.
ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA
Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of
radical
Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we return to
the five
dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories. Even the Zionists
themselves have never denied that they have long exerted great
influence in
America. But what we must understand is that the Zionists do not
merely
influence United States policy....they dominate it! It is this
domination
that enables them to pull off monstrous crimes and then conceal them
from
the general public.
The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and
is
easily verifiable by public information.
Henry Ford said this:
"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered
to
the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the
disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but
even a
good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that compromise
him.
It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of American
election
campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no matter which
candidate
was elected, there was ready made a sufficient amount of evidence to
discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed to discredit him." 33
Charles Lindbergh said this:
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership
and
influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our
government.
34
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under
Ronald
Reagan said this:
"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to
them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they
want.
The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American
people
understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they
would
rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes
on."
35
While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator
and
Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before a
national
television audience:
"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned
about
the United States' interests." 36
Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate
Patrick
Buchanan said:
"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once
had
the following exchange, which was caught on tape:
GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or
this
country's going down the drain".
NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir."
NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I do believe it" 38
But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist
control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The
Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek,
People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media
and
Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News
Chief, or
are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you
ever noticed how Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and
Arabs
as a bigoted fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!
FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared
lobby in
Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of unseating
Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their requests. The
majority
of Congressmen from both political parties receive large donations
from
AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine, journalist Michael Massing
explains:
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds
of
members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the
New York
Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very
intimidating,"
said a correspondent at another large daily. "The pressure from these
groups
is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53>
FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named
Richard
Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more control
over
the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or the generals
and
admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who serve on the board
(Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as non-jewish members who
have
always supported Israel and the expansion of the "War on Terror". The
notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed the "The Prince of Darkness",
is
Chairman of the Board. 41
With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul
Wolfowitz
as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner Douglass Feith
as
Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist Pentagon gang controls 3
of
the top 4 civilian leadership positions of America's armed forces.
Careerist
scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld are either under
their
influence or unwilling to oppose their drive for WW III. The
Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist
Pentagon
conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004 Presidential
candidate,
Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his Gentile partner in crime
Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>
An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments
that
his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:
" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House
and
Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York Times,
the
lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their blood does not
count
as much as our blood. We believe with absolute certitude that now,
when we
have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar] Bronfman and the
Anti-Defamation
League, , we truly have the right to tell 400,000 people that in eight
hours
they must flee from their homes. And that we have the right to rain
bombs on
their villages and towns and populated areas. That we have the right
to kill
without any guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such
awesome
power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so many of
America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk about
this
issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton would grovel
before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous as the
following
statement:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across
the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and
fight and
die." 43
I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I
want
to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?
Subject: THE ZIONIST *****
From: "Rasputin"

<mailto:
>
Date: 9/1/02 8:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:
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<mailto:edBc9.46977$Ke2.3328282@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>>
AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S *****
We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then
they used
and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was clear that the
chief
remaining global power was the United States. Now the USA had never
had any
problem with the Arab people, and had no reason to quarrel with the
Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were
receiving from
America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and the mighty US
could
somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists possibly stoop so low? Why
not?
Look at what they had already pulled off! Remember that the official
motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of
deception
thou shalt do war." 26
In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for
the
world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were
caught
staging a series of bombings against American installations in Egypt.
27
When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such a
controversy
that it brought down the Israeli government. The long since forgotten
scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".
Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and
fighter
jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US
communications
ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and 170 others
injured
in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in broad daylight and
with
the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent was to kill all of the
Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take the blame. Israel
denied that
the attack was deliberate but the chilling stories of the lucky
American
survivors clearly contradicts that lie. To this very day, the U.S.
Congress
has never investigated the USS Liberty massacre.
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in
order
to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky became
so
disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government that he
defected
from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how evil and
dangerous
they were. Ostrovsky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya
for the
bombing of a German night club which killed American servicemen. 29 It
was
this frame up job that caused President Reagan to bomb Libya, killing
the 4
year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadaffi. France refused to
allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis.
Among some
of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the Mossad often
uses
Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli agents are skilled at
impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to turn American public
opinion
against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists in America are often called
upon to
help carry out Mossad missions. Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way
of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous
death
threats. 30
In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research
paper
issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The
research
was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the
possible
outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel
and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:
"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in
both
Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to
accomplish
mission" 31
Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:
"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces
and make
it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)
Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away
billons
of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military violates
international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering US troops
in
order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?
Subject: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
From:
<mailto:
>
(XDangerousDNA)
Date: 9/20/02 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020920193931.24488.00000281@mb-mc.aol.com
<mailto:20020920193931.24488.00000281@mb-mc.aol.com>>
LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No'
To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
September 18, 2002
Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain
Iraq-centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate and
psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the world's
third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing up the
entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!
Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.
At an international webcast, before a live audience in Washington on
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's senior
ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two conditions met,
LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to overcome would be a
berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage the peaceful resolution
and blow up the region.
It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad of
submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have recently
threatened that they now have the capability of launching an
intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on
Earth--including the United States--is exempt from an Israeli
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss this
threat from Sharon?...
Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic
equation.
Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President Dwight
Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez invasion, after
both Britain and France had withdrawn under American pressure.
Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military and
civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-exempt
status of all American organizations that provided aid to Israel. An
even more resolute action will now be required from a far-less
qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from carrying out
either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against an American
target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is deadly serious
stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to stop it is
vital.
Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack on
Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for the
U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing American
taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under the current
conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly bankrupt
world financial system?
I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside the
Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war.
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department--Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser--some of whom literally prepared the
foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These Netanyahu-Sharon Likud
moles inside the Bush foreign policy and national security
establishment are still suspected, now with more and more evidence of
involvement with the convicted Israeli spy, the American-born Jonathan
Pollard.
Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the "Pollard
Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more damning evidence
has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand for a thorough
national security investigation into key staffers in the Office of
Vice President ***** Cheney, beginning with his chief of staff and
national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Libby, a protégé of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department--and blocked an urgently
needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby has his own longstanding deep
ties to the Sharon circles, including to the Pollard spy ring.
While out of government, Libby served between 1985-2000 as the
personal attorney for fugitive swindler Marc Rich. Rich was indicted
by the U.S. Justice Department in 1983 for tax evasion and for trading
with the enemy, and he fled the United States, establishing a
luxurious hide-away in Zug, Switzerland.
Today, according to Israeli sources, Rich is under investigation, for
illegal contributions to Ariel Sharon's last political campaign. He
has been involved in Russian Mafia operations in Africa, and, through
his Marc Rich Foundation in Israel, has openly financed international
operations of the Israeli Mossad. Libby's law partner and mentor,
Leonard Garment, was a pivotal player in the Israeli government's
damage control effort, following the Pollard arrest in November 1985,
and he served as the attorney for Israeli Air Force Col. Aviem Sella,
the man who recruited and deployed Jonathan Pollard.
Now, Ariel Sharon's regime is Hell-bent on provoking a regional war in
the Middle East, a war pivoted on an Israeli pre-emptive attack on
Iraq. The threat is that, if President Bush does not virtually
exterminate Iraq, and neighboring countries, too, Israel will. This
means the likely use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. All
the while, Sharon's Washington moles are operating under the shadows
of the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense of the United
States. If Sharon is to be stopped from launching World War III in the
Middle East, this entire Pollard stay-behind apparatus must be
thoroughly investigated, exposed, and removed from government--now!
It is time for these Israeli agents and spies to be kicked out of
government, and the Israeli government to desist from its nuclear
blackmail. I demand it. I can not believe that any sane and patriotic
American would not back me up "100%" on this specific issue.
Support me actively on this issue. If you are serious about the
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on
you.
<http://www.larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/020918isrblackmail>_
prt.htm
the following is the israeli black propaganda article:
<http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html>
Israel is the third largest arms dealer in the world. They have
violated
hundreds of UN resolutions and they constitute a threat to the entire
Middle
East, having occupied three countries, Syria (www.ussliberty.org
<http://www.ussliberty.org>) Lebanon, and
Palestine.
So, why not bomb Israel?
<http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=334318>
ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW THE ABOVE ARTICLE BY FISK IS THE ONLY
PRESS/MEDIA THAT
I HAVE SEEN SO FAR THAT MENTIONED THAT RITTER WAS MAKING REGULAR TRIPS
TO
ISRAEL TO BRIEF THE ISRAELIS AS TO WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH THE UNSCOM
WEAPONS
INSPECTIONS TEAMS IN IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF
RICHARD BUTLER.
NO WONDER IRAQ WANTED THEM OUT BACK IN 1998 AS I CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND
SUCH
(ESPECIALLY AFTER ISRAEL HAD VIOLATED IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY WITH THE
EARLIER
BOMBING OF THE NUCLEAR REACTOR).
I HOPE SUCH SPYING DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IF PEACE IS GIVEN A CHANCE BY
ALLOWING
WEAPONS INSPECTORS BACK INTO IRAQ... HOWEVER, I THINK THE ONLY WAY TO
PREVENT A
US ZIONIST-DRIVEN INVASION WOULD BE TO FLOOD BAHGDAD WITH US AND
EUROPEAN PEACE
ACTIVISTS... IRAQ COULD PUT THEM UP FOR A YEAR TO LEARN ARABIC OR
SIMILAR.
OUR BIASED PRO-ISRAEL MEDIA ONLY SOMETIMES MENTIONS SPYING BUT NOT
THAT IT WAS
ISRAELI SPYING VIA UNSCOM... THE BRITISH PRESS/MEDIA PROVIDES MUCH
BETTER
COVERAGE...
Subject: ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS AS WELL
MANY AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP TO ISRAELI TREACHERY LIKE WITH THE USS
LIBERTY
ATTACK IN WHICH ISRAEL MURDERED 34 SAILORS AND WOUNDED 171 MORE JUST
TO STEAL
EVEN MORE LAND IN THE GOLAN IN SYRIA:
<http://www.ussliberty.org>
israel should be made to accept UN weapons inspections as well FOR ITS
NUKES
AND CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS:..
Not In Our Name... <http://www.nion.us/> Petition against a war with
Iraq.
<http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewforum.php?f=10>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=668>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=643>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info http://www.RealNews247.com
.



User: "Jas"

Title: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party? 06 Nov 2004 03:24:19 PM
What? I never expected Kerry to win. I was for Clark, myself. I Voted for
Kerry because he's a good man, a true hero, VFW and because he has the
courage to stand up for the truth even if you get stompted for doing it. I
respect things like that. Principles. And the ultimate irony is, when he
says something he really means it.
But I never expected him to win. The only chance he had was to win by such
a landslide as to overcome election fraud. And none of the polls were
showing that kind of a margin.
I admit in the first 3 or 4 hours after the election returns started coming
in, I did entertain the notion, "What if he really had a chance to win..."
You know. Like, "what if we could really stop this whole damn thing --
right in it's tracks -- right here and now"?
What if, instead of this:
"Berlin, Monday, Aug. 20, 1934 -- Eighty-nine and nine-tenths percent of
the German voters endorsed in yesterday's plebiscite* Chancellor Hitler's
assumption of greater power than has ever been possessed by any other
ruler in modern times. Nearly 10 per cent indicated their disapproval. The
result was expected."
it had been this:
"Berlin, Monday, Aug. 20, 1934 -- Eighty-nine and nine-tenths percent of
the German voters REJECTED in yesterday's plebiscite Chancellor Hitler's
attempt to assume greater power than has ever been possessed by any other
ruler in modern times. Only 10 per cent indicated their approval. The
result was unexpected."
But that was just a glimmer of idealism, I never expected him to win. The
only thing that really surprised me was that nearly half of America could
see past the lies, character slurs, the constant right wing edia propagada
and slander and voted accordingly.
....and the only big Bush mandate that exists is to educate people
better --and I know we can count on him to do that.
Yeah, Bush: the educator
If frogs had side pockets...
.
User: "Big Bush Mandate"

Title: Re: What's really wrong with the Democratic Party? 06 Nov 2004 03:45:40 PM
"Jas" <jasc@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ibjd.19612$KJ6.5889@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

What? I never expected Kerry to win.

You're not alone. MANY of us Republicans felt that way, Jas!
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