Politics > Politics-USA > Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" |
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16 Dec 2004 07:25:07 PM |
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Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Want to solve the gay adoption "problem"? Make sure there are no children
to be adopted.
Simpler yet, merely outlaw same-sex couples from being allowed to adopt
children.
Besides, NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring.
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| User: "Eric Bohlman" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:37:53 PM |
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Want to solve the gay adoption "problem"? Make sure there are no
children to be adopted.
Simpler yet, merely outlaw same-sex couples from being allowed to
adopt children.
Do I understand you to be saying that an orphan is better off being
raised in the foster care system than by a same-sex couple?
Besides, NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring.
Hmmm. Let's follow this one a bit. You seem to be arguing that same-sex
couples should not be allowed to adopt orphans because they can't produce
biological children of their own. They're not the only couples who can't
do that. No heterosexual act in which one of the participants is
infertile has ever produced human offspring, either (by definition). Yet
infertile couples frequently choose to adopt. They account for a much
larger number of adoptions than do same-sex couples. Therefore, your
argument necessarily implies that infertile opposite-sex couple should be
allowed to adopt orphans, either.
There are more orphans waiting to be adopted than families willing to
adopt them. And you're now arguing that the number of willing families
who are *allowed* to adopt them should be *cut* (by excluding any couple
who aren't mutually fertile). The only people who would benefit from
that are the relatively small percentage of foster parents who are only
in it for the money. You wouldn't happen to be one of them, would you?
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| User: "Mindless Drewling Libruls" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:41:32 PM |
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
news:Tzqwd.1384$Z47.1061@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
news:K_pwd.78861$MG3.27880@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
Want to solve the gay adoption "problem"? Make sure there are no
children to be adopted.
Simpler yet, merely outlaw same-sex couples from being allowed to
adopt children.
Do I understand you to be saying that an orphan is better off being
raised in the foster care system than by a same-sex couple?
Yes, that's a fair statement.
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| User: "Eric Bohlman" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:46:38 PM |
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95C1C8D9B2B2Febohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4...
"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
news:Tzqwd.1384$Z47.1061@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Do I understand you to be saying that an orphan is better off being
raised in the foster care system than by a same-sex couple?
Yes, that's a fair statement.
Thanks for admitting that.
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| User: "Mindless Drewling Libruls" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:49:27 PM |
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
news:gPqwd.1367$RH4.1116@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95C1C8D9B2B2Febohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4...
"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
news:Tzqwd.1384$Z47.1061@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Do I understand you to be saying that an orphan is better off being
raised in the foster care system than by a same-sex couple?
Yes, that's a fair statement.
Thanks for admitting that.
You're quite welcome.
NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring, Eric.
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| User: "Eric Bohlman" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:51:16 PM |
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
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NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring, Eric.
Since you were so candid in admitting that you believe that children are
better off in the foster care system than being raised by same sex couples,
are you now saying that you also believe that they're better off in the
foster care system than being raised by infertile opposite-sex couples?
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| User: "Mindless Drewling Libruls" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 07:55:32 PM |
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
news:HWqwd.1384$RH4.466@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring, Eric.
Since you were so candid in admitting that you believe that children are
better off in the foster care system than being raised by same sex
couples,
are you now saying that you also believe that they're better off in the
foster care system than being raised by infertile opposite-sex couples?
Irrelevent question, so I'm not going to bother to answer it.
But now YOU answer MY question, Eric - do YOU think ANY homosexual act has
EVER resulted in human offspring?
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| User: "Eric Bohlman" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
16 Dec 2004 08:07:38 PM |
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"Mindless Drewling Libruls" <LibFools@WhackjobDemmieLeft.com> wrote in
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95C1CB1E629BEebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4...
Since you were so candid in admitting that you believe that children
are better off in the foster care system than being raised by same
sex couples,
are you now saying that you also believe that they're better off in
the foster care system than being raised by infertile opposite-sex
couples?
Irrelevent question, so I'm not going to bother to answer it.
But now YOU answer MY question, Eric - do YOU think ANY homosexual act
has EVER resulted in human offspring?
Irrelevant question, so I'm not going to bother to answer it.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
17 Dec 2004 09:44:30 AM |
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Mindless Drewling Libruls wrote:
But now YOU answer MY question, Eric - do YOU think ANY homosexual
act has
EVER resulted in human offspring?
I thought the topic was about raising foster children, not sexual
relations. The two can go together (see Woody Allen), but people
usually think that having sex with your adopted children is creepy.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Mindless Drewling Libruls" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
17 Dec 2004 11:34:53 AM |
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<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mindless Drewling Libruls wrote:
But now YOU answer MY question, Eric - do YOU think ANY homosexual
act has
EVER resulted in human offspring?
I thought the topic was about raising foster children, not sexual
relations. The two can go together (see Woody Allen), but people
usually think that having sex with your adopted children is creepy.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
Apparently the question stumped Eric.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners |
17 Dec 2004 12:15:51 PM |
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Mindless Drewling Libruls wrote:
<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I thought the topic was about raising foster children, not sexual
relations. The two can go together (see Woody Allen), but people
usually think that having sex with your adopted children is creepy.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
Apparently the question stumped Eric.
Why are you still mixing up having sex with raising
children?
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexualpartners |
17 Dec 2004 10:17:48 PM |
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Mindless Drewling Libruls wrote:
Besides, NO homosexual act has EVER produced human offspring.
Uh, "hello?!?" I thought you were *against* excess children.
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Suppose you went to a priest and asked for help and -- since the gentleman was a Christian priest -- you were referred to the Bible. If you went next to a physician for help and were referred to the book of Hippocrates, you would likely start looking for a new doctor.
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