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User: "Johnny Trails Bighten"
Date: 24 Jun 2004 06:45:28 AM
Object: Re: Why terrorists prefer Kerry for President. And why you shouldn't.
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On 21 Jun 2004 08:36:34 -0700,


(Harry)

wrote:

I'm sorry, maybe I missed it, but the argument has

been

made

that

everything the Cheney-Lay administration has done

internationally
has

had the effect of strengthening Al Qaida
specifically

and

increasing

the danger to Americans at home and abroad of being
attacked,

and
I'm

not seeing your response to this argument.


90% of Al Qaeda's leadership is dead, imprisoned, or
in hiding...


Cite?
Jim


Got Google? KM


YUP. IT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.

So, you've learned to just pick the unofficial sources that
support your preconceived notions. So what else is new? I
still think it's safer to

join

the French Foreign Legion than enlist in Al Qaeda. ;-) KM


Well seeing that 100% of Al Qaeda are in hiding, I doubt you

have

found a source that supports your claim.

I never made a claim, I just asked, "Got Google?"




"Well over half of the membership of Al Qaeda has
been killed or imprisoned since 9-11". KM
Keith Martin, AKA "alohacyberian", 3/16/04


I know some of you dittoheads are pretty out of it, but we just
ran the most expensive (5 billion/mo) and most successful
recruitment campaign in the history of Al Qaida, with hundreds of
thousands of young people flocking to join and repay the great
satan for the invasion of Iraq.

You kill half their "membership", they recruit more members. I
don't really know how stupid you have to be not to realize this.


That is the tragedy of the war and the rightwingers
who support it.


why must you make it a partisan issue?

what about the leftwingers who support it?

is chris hitchens a rightwinger? how about elie weisel? alan

dershowitz?


how about all the rightwingers who DON'T support it?

pat buchanan?

iow, it is not as simple as you intend to portray it

The US has replaced Israel as the most

hated country by those living in the middle east. If America
was invaded by a foreign country with plans to replace our
government with theirs, how would WE react?


that's a stupid question because we are not a dictatorship, run by a
murderous tortorous madman, that has invaded his neighbors, gassed
them, murdered 10's of thousands (note i said murdered, not killed)
of our own citizens, and that signed a ceasefire after the gulf war.



You didn't answer the question. If the US was
invaded by a hostile foreign power bent on imposing
it's own brand of government, how would we react?


nor have you addressed my issues with your post;

however, in response to your question - violently, i would hope.

however, i don't think we would saw off innocent people's heads on
video, nor would we use churches and mosques as firebases, nor would we
threaten people's families with rape and torture if they did not fight
for our cause. all of which SH's minions and other terrorists have done
in iraq.

furthermore, invasion of us would not be justified.

invasion of iraq WAS justified.



Why? Because of the WMD's it didn't have?

No, because of the WMDs it DID have, as the recent WMD finds have proven.
But we also need to keep in mind that the WMDs were only one of many
reasons, all spelled out by the President, why we went to war.
Keep in mind too - John Kerry and a whole host of Democrats AUTHORIZED the
war.
.

User: "Mitchell Holman"

Title: Re: Why terrorists prefer Kerry for President. And why you shouldn't. 24 Jun 2004 09:40:28 PM
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On 21 Jun 2004 08:36:34 -0700,


(Harry)

wrote:

I'm sorry, maybe I missed it, but the argument

has

been

made

that

everything the Cheney-Lay administration has done

internationally
has

had the effect of strengthening Al Qaida
specifically

and

increasing

the danger to Americans at home and abroad of

being

attacked,

and
I'm

not seeing your response to this argument.


90% of Al Qaeda's leadership is dead, imprisoned,

or

in hiding...


Cite?
Jim


Got Google? KM


YUP. IT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.

So, you've learned to just pick the unofficial sources

that

support your preconceived notions. So what else is new? I
still think it's safer to

join

the French Foreign Legion than enlist in Al Qaeda. ;-) KM


Well seeing that 100% of Al Qaeda are in hiding, I doubt

you

have

found a source that supports your claim.

I never made a claim, I just asked, "Got Google?"




"Well over half of the membership of Al Qaeda has
been killed or imprisoned since 9-11". KM
Keith Martin, AKA "alohacyberian", 3/16/04


I know some of you dittoheads are pretty out of it, but we just
ran the most expensive (5 billion/mo) and most successful
recruitment campaign in the history of Al Qaida, with hundreds

of

thousands of young people flocking to join and repay the great
satan for the invasion of Iraq.

You kill half their "membership", they recruit more members. I
don't really know how stupid you have to be not to realize this.


That is the tragedy of the war and the rightwingers
who support it.


why must you make it a partisan issue?

what about the leftwingers who support it?

is chris hitchens a rightwinger? how about elie weisel? alan

dershowitz?


how about all the rightwingers who DON'T support it?

pat buchanan?

iow, it is not as simple as you intend to portray it

The US has replaced Israel as the most

hated country by those living in the middle east. If America
was invaded by a foreign country with plans to replace our
government with theirs, how would WE react?


that's a stupid question because we are not a dictatorship, run by

a

murderous tortorous madman, that has invaded his neighbors, gassed
them, murdered 10's of thousands (note i said murdered, not killed)
of our own citizens, and that signed a ceasefire after the gulf

war.



You didn't answer the question. If the US was
invaded by a hostile foreign power bent on imposing
it's own brand of government, how would we react?


nor have you addressed my issues with your post;

however, in response to your question - violently, i would hope.

however, i don't think we would saw off innocent people's heads on
video, nor would we use churches and mosques as firebases, nor would

we

threaten people's families with rape and torture if they did not fight
for our cause. all of which SH's minions and other terrorists have

done

in iraq.

furthermore, invasion of us would not be justified.

invasion of iraq WAS justified.



Why? Because of the WMD's it didn't have?



No, because of the WMDs it DID have, as the recent WMD finds have proven.
But we also need to keep in mind that the WMDs were only one of many
reasons, all spelled out by the President, why we went to war.

Wrong. The WMD's were "What this war
was about and is about", remember?
Mitchell Holman
"But make no mistake -- as I said earlier --
we have high confidence that they have weapons
of mass destruction. That is what this war was
about and it is about."
White House Press Briefing
April 10, 2003
.


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