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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 06 Jun 2005 01:43:48 PM
Object: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank
From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed
Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support
By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter
Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.
The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.
"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.
The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.
It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.
Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."
"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.
"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."
Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.
Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.
"We've got time," he said.
Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.
Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.
Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.
Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.
Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.
Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.
A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.
"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.
"It's something we want to support."
The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.
The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.
"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.
"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."
Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.
"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.
"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."
With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.
Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.
The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.
Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.
"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.
"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."
_________________________________________________________
Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.
Harry
.

User: "swayser"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 06 Jun 2005 07:57:28 PM
I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?
And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.
BTW, what WAS the point of your post?
Harry Hope wrote:

From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.
User: "XTS"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 06 Jun 2005 10:25:37 PM
"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here.

I think you have been mistaked about things your whole life.
After all it would be

male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games.

No, Gay games. You queers can do what you want to. Gay folks want their own
contests, and it's no ones business. You will not be any more compelled to
watch or participate than you were to answer this post.
Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)

cream them in open competition?

No one is laughing, except those of us who see your latent homosexual
fingerprints all over this post.


And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations.

Gay people are humans. Thus, they have families. Mothers fathers, siblings,
cousins ect. Hetrosexuals are not the only ones with families doofus. Food
companies do marketing studies. They will glady forgo your business for the
opportunity to open up a frienship witha growing consumer group.
This is America though

you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons.

No, we know its still American, because closet queens like you still make
the rest of us laugh like hell.
I like Oreo cookies

and Jello, but they're history in my home now.

Im sure there will be much gnashing of teeth in the food industry due to
your boycott. You guys kill me. You are shrinking your world down to nothing
through your boycotts and bans. The rest of us enjoy the wrold, the blue
skys and the sunshine, while you sit bitterly in your corner, with wet
panties, crying for an oreo. LOL. (You will really miss the jello) LOLOL!
Thanks for the heads up.
You take you head anyway you can get it, up or down Suzi.

I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.

Again, thank a liberal for your education.


BTW, what WAS the point of your post?

The point was to draw out you closet cocksuckers. You were one of the
first, so, you get to clean up the closet.


Harry Hope wrote:

From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?c
oll=chi-news-hed


Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.
User: "swayser"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 10 Jun 2005 11:25:38 PM
XTS wrote:

"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here.



I think you have been mistaked about things your whole life.

Well that sure is a cogent answer to my question. Apparently you can't
answer it either.


After all it would be

male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games.



No, Gay games. You queers can do what you want to. Gay folks want their own
contests, and it's no ones business. You will not be any more compelled to
watch or participate than you were to answer this post.


Granted, but it should be known that people will now boycott companies
which sponsor those games. It's my money which I paid for their products
and It's my choice to not buy those products if I choose. And it's
homogames. The participants are homosexuals and they're commonly known
as homos excerpt among the politically corrupt. You bend over for
queers, I don't.


Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)

cream them in open competition?



No one is laughing, except those of us who see your latent homosexual
fingerprints all over this post.

Oh no, I thought that has long been recognized as a typically liberal
allegation with no basis in any thing even resembling fact. Your tactics
are pathetically obsolete clown. Tell you what fool prove that "latent
homosexuality" even exists. Prove it with empirical evidence not some
ultra liberal psychbabel stupid. Go ahead, prove it.



And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations.



Gay people are humans. Thus, they have families. Mothers fathers, siblings,
cousins ect. Hetrosexuals are not the only ones with families doofus. Food
companies do marketing studies. They will glady forgo your business for the
opportunity to open up a frienship witha growing consumer group.

Sure they're human. Never said they weren't. But why do they need their
own games. No matter who wins they're second best just as women
competing with each other are second best in their sport unless it's one
in which men don't participate. Why don't they go out and compete
against the best? You say they're human, which they are of course, but
they're either males or females and why can't they compete against
straight males and females?



This is America though

you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons.



No, we know its still American, because closet queens like you still make
the rest of us laugh like hell.

Ooow, another silly intimation. An accusation of latent homosexuality. I
know such an allegation might be taken seriously by some people but do
you really expect it to work on me fool. Nope. My first major in college
was psychology imbecile. There has never been a shred of empirical
evidence that it exists. I make the same challenge to you I made to the
last idiot that said something like that. Show me empirical evidence the
syndrome exists. Not psychobabble like you find in Psychology Today,
real empirical evidence from clinical experiments. Otherwise you're just
a babbling fool.


I like Oreo cookies

and Jello, but they're history in my home now.



Im sure there will be much gnashing of teeth in the food industry due to
your boycott. You guys kill me. You are shrinking your world down to nothing
through your boycotts and bans. The rest of us enjoy the wrold, the blue
skys and the sunshine, while you sit bitterly in your corner, with wet
panties, crying for an oreo. LOL. (You will really miss the jello) LOLOL!

I'm not bitter babbling fool. And I have to assume you mean world, not
wrold. Don't any of you sissy liberals know how to use your spell
checkers? I know you're a sissy because only a sissy would think about
someone crying for an oreo. That's called projection and that IS an
empirically proven syndrome homoboy.



Thanks for the heads up.

You take you head anyway you can get it, up or down Suzi.

Ooow, another real zinger. You guys really do have an affinity for
sussies don't you homoboy?


I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.



Again, thank a liberal for your education.


BTW, what WAS the point of your post?



The point was to draw out you closet cocksuckers. You were one of the
first, so, you get to clean up the closet.


Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?c
oll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry




.
User: "XTS"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 10 Jun 2005 11:53:56 PM
"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:THtqe.72904$NZ1.62514@fe09.lga...

XTS wrote:

"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here.



I think you have been mistaked about things your whole life.

Well that sure is a cogent answer to my question. Apparently you can't
answer it either.


After all it would be

male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games.



No, Gay games. You queers can do what you want to. Gay folks want their

own

contests, and it's no ones business. You will not be any more compelled

to

watch or participate than you were to answer this post.


Granted, but it should be known that people will now boycott companies
which sponsor those games.

Food companies employ people who have degrees in marketing. They do studies
before they endorse anything. They know there is a percenatge of people like
you who are going to pout and "say" they are going to boycot. You are
factored in kid. They study this *****.
They get the big bucks for counting on losers like you. They dont care. You
do not even make the margin.
You are les than zero.
Do you think you are smarter than the marketing experts who decide what to
endorse or not?
It's my money which I paid for their products

and It's my choice to not buy those products if I choose. And it's
homogames. The participants are homosexuals and they're commonly known
as homos excerpt among the politically corrupt. You bend over for
queers, I don't.


Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)

cream them in open competition?



No one is laughing, except those of us who see your latent homosexual
fingerprints all over this post.

Oh no, I thought that has long been recognized as a typically liberal
allegation with no basis in any thing even resembling fact. Your tactics
are pathetically obsolete clown. Tell you what fool prove that "latent
homosexuality" even exists. Prove it with empirical evidence not some
ultra liberal psychbabel stupid. Go ahead, prove it.

You are living proof, because kid, you are protesting a little to much.


And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations.



Gay people are humans. Thus, they have families. Mothers fathers,

siblings,

cousins ect. Hetrosexuals are not the only ones with families doofus.

Food

companies do marketing studies. They will glady forgo your business for

the

opportunity to open up a frienship witha growing consumer group.

Sure they're human.

Never said they weren't. But why do they need their

own games.

Who knows? Who cares? The only people who really care are the homos, and the
latent homos like you.
No one else gives a ***** if some gay people run around a track or something.
If you want to prove something, go out run a queer. Then you can have
something to brag about.
No matter who wins they're second best
Not if you dont go out compete against one ane prove it. If you dont, you
just a whiner.
just as women

competing with each other are second best in their sport unless it's one
in which men don't participate.

Ill bet you could not run from the couch to the refrigerator.
Why don't they go out and compete

against the best?

If you are so good, go, find a queer and challenge him to a foot race.
You say they're human, which they are of course, but

they're either males or females and why can't they compete against
straight males and females?

I will leave the gender decision making up to you.
I see you are fretting about it, and I am just here to make fun of you. I
dont give a ***** one way or another.
But what is obvious, is that you are very uncertain about whether you want
to suck a ***** or run a foot race. LOL!
All in all, you are a pretty fucked up kid. Thanks for the laugh.



This is America though

you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons.



No, we know its still American, because closet queens like you still

make

the rest of us laugh like hell.

Ooow, another silly intimation. An accusation of latent homosexuality. I
know such an allegation might be taken seriously by some people but do
you really expect it to work on me fool. Nope. My first major in college
was psychology imbecile. There has never been a shred of empirical
evidence that it exists. I make the same challenge to you I made to the
last idiot that said something like that. Show me empirical evidence the
syndrome exists. Not psychobabble like you find in Psychology Today,
real empirical evidence from clinical experiments. Otherwise you're just
a babbling fool.


I like Oreo cookies

and Jello, but they're history in my home now.



Im sure there will be much gnashing of teeth in the food industry due to
your boycott. You guys kill me. You are shrinking your world down to

nothing

through your boycotts and bans. The rest of us enjoy the wrold, the blue
skys and the sunshine, while you sit bitterly in your corner, with wet
panties, crying for an oreo. LOL. (You will really miss the jello)

LOLOL!


I'm not bitter babbling fool. And I have to assume you mean world, not
wrold. Don't any of you sissy liberals know how to use your spell
checkers? I know you're a sissy because only a sissy would think about
someone crying for an oreo. That's called projection and that IS an
empirically proven syndrome homoboy.



Thanks for the heads up.

You take you head anyway you can get it, up or down Suzi.

Ooow, another real zinger. You guys really do have an affinity for
sussies don't you homoboy?


I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.



Again, thank a liberal for your education.


BTW, what WAS the point of your post?



The point was to draw out you closet cocksuckers. You were one of the
first, so, you get to clean up the closet.


Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?c

oll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry




.
User: "swayser"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 11 Jun 2005 01:53:48 PM
You still haven't answered my question. Why can't queers compete against
straights in the Olympics? Now try to concentrate on that one question
instead of ducking it like it were the hammer of Thor. Why can't queers
compete against straights in the Olympics.
XTS wrote:

"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:THtqe.72904$NZ1.62514@fe09.lga...

XTS wrote:


"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...


I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here.



I think you have been mistaked about things your whole life.


Well that sure is a cogent answer to my question. Apparently you can't
answer it either.

After all it would be


male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games.



No, Gay games. You queers can do what you want to. Gay folks want their


own

contests, and it's no ones business. You will not be any more compelled


to

watch or participate than you were to answer this post.



Granted, but it should be known that people will now boycott companies
which sponsor those games.




Food companies employ people who have degrees in marketing. They do studies
before they endorse anything. They know there is a percenatge of people like
you who are going to pout and "say" they are going to boycot. You are
factored in kid. They study this *****.
They get the big bucks for counting on losers like you. They dont care. You
do not even make the margin.
You are les than zero.
Do you think you are smarter than the marketing experts who decide what to
endorse or not?



It's my money which I paid for their products

and It's my choice to not buy those products if I choose. And it's
homogames. The participants are homosexuals and they're commonly known
as homos excerpt among the politically corrupt. You bend over for
queers, I don't.

Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)


cream them in open competition?



No one is laughing, except those of us who see your latent homosexual
fingerprints all over this post.


Oh no, I thought that has long been recognized as a typically liberal
allegation with no basis in any thing even resembling fact. Your tactics
are pathetically obsolete clown. Tell you what fool prove that "latent
homosexuality" even exists. Prove it with empirical evidence not some
ultra liberal psychbabel stupid. Go ahead, prove it.



You are living proof, because kid, you are protesting a little to much.




And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations.



Gay people are humans. Thus, they have families. Mothers fathers,


siblings,

cousins ect. Hetrosexuals are not the only ones with families doofus.


Food

companies do marketing studies. They will glady forgo your business for


the

opportunity to open up a frienship witha growing consumer group.


Sure they're human.







Never said they weren't. But why do they need their

own games.



Who knows? Who cares? The only people who really care are the homos, and the
latent homos like you.
No one else gives a ***** if some gay people run around a track or something.
If you want to prove something, go out run a queer. Then you can have
something to brag about.



No matter who wins they're second best

Not if you dont go out compete against one ane prove it. If you dont, you
just a whiner.


just as women

competing with each other are second best in their sport unless it's one
in which men don't participate.



Ill bet you could not run from the couch to the refrigerator.


Why don't they go out and compete

against the best?




If you are so good, go, find a queer and challenge him to a foot race.


You say they're human, which they are of course, but

they're either males or females and why can't they compete against
straight males and females?



I will leave the gender decision making up to you.
I see you are fretting about it, and I am just here to make fun of you. I
dont give a ***** one way or another.
But what is obvious, is that you are very uncertain about whether you want
to suck a ***** or run a foot race. LOL!
All in all, you are a pretty fucked up kid. Thanks for the laugh.






This is America though


you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons.



No, we know its still American, because closet queens like you still


make

the rest of us laugh like hell.


Ooow, another silly intimation. An accusation of latent homosexuality. I
know such an allegation might be taken seriously by some people but do
you really expect it to work on me fool. Nope. My first major in college
was psychology imbecile. There has never been a shred of empirical
evidence that it exists. I make the same challenge to you I made to the
last idiot that said something like that. Show me empirical evidence the
syndrome exists. Not psychobabble like you find in Psychology Today,
real empirical evidence from clinical experiments. Otherwise you're just
a babbling fool.

I like Oreo cookies


and Jello, but they're history in my home now.



Im sure there will be much gnashing of teeth in the food industry due to
your boycott. You guys kill me. You are shrinking your world down to


nothing

through your boycotts and bans. The rest of us enjoy the wrold, the blue
skys and the sunshine, while you sit bitterly in your corner, with wet
panties, crying for an oreo. LOL. (You will really miss the jello)


LOLOL!

I'm not bitter babbling fool. And I have to assume you mean world, not
wrold. Don't any of you sissy liberals know how to use your spell
checkers? I know you're a sissy because only a sissy would think about
someone crying for an oreo. That's called projection and that IS an
empirically proven syndrome homoboy.


Thanks for the heads up.

You take you head anyway you can get it, up or down Suzi.


Ooow, another real zinger. You guys really do have an affinity for
sussies don't you homoboy?

I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.



Again, thank a liberal for your education.



BTW, what WAS the point of your post?



The point was to draw out you closet cocksuckers. You were one of the
first, so, you get to clean up the closet.



Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?c

oll=chi-news-hed


Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry






.




User: "Larry Hewitt"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 06 Jun 2005 09:26:23 PM
"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?

Three questions


And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.

Four questons

BTW, what WAS the point of your post?
'

Five questions. Rightard can;t count.
Rightard doesnl;t understand that the riogth to free speech does both ways.
Rightards are free to voice their opinions. But that does not mean that
reasonable people cannot announce thaat rightards are idiots for voicing
their bigotry and hate.
larry

Harry Hope wrote:

From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed


Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.
User: "swayser"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 10 Jun 2005 11:03:56 PM
Larry Hewitt wrote:

"swayser" <swayser@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Jg6pe.19592$HP1.3350@fe08.lga...

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they
compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?



Three questions


And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.



Four questons


BTW, what WAS the point of your post?
'



Five questions. Rightard can;t count.

Rightard doesnl;t understand that the riogth to free speech does both ways.
Rightards are free to voice their opinions. But that does not mean that
reasonable people cannot announce thaat rightards are idiots for voicing
their bigotry and hate.

larry

This so called rightist has never heard of the word riogth and most
certainly must but guess what "does both ways" means. And it's can't,
not can;t. And I believe that you meant "doesn't". It isn't doesnl;t.
And you may check the spelling of thaat. Now here's something that you
may try, it's called a spell checker. You manged to get five things
wrong inside five sentences. Who's the "tard:?
And you have definitely missed the point of my last statement. I am
protesting not freedom of speech liberaloon. I'm protesting them
sponsoring these homogames.
In short, the one thing you did beside count my questions was comment on
freedom of speech which was not the point of my last comments.
Seems you made a very public fool of yourself *****.


Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry




.


User: "Rich Travsky "

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 07 Jun 2005 12:54:15 AM
swayser wrote:


I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they

Wow you're stupid.
Seniors have their own games. Hey! Why don't those geezers compete
in the Olympics?!?!
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050512/NEWS0102/505120423
In their quests for the gold, the aging athletes competing in next week's
Louisville Metro Regional Senior Games can expect more choice and less travel
time than in previous years.
...

compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?

And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.

BTW, what WAS the point of your post?

Harry Hope wrote:

From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.
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swayser wrote:

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary?

Rich Tavsky made a good point:
Wow you're stupid.
Seniors have their own games. Hey! Why don't those geezers compete
in the Olympics?!?!
Let's not forget the Special Olympics.
Can't those kids try a little bit harder?
.

User: "swayser"

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 10 Jun 2005 11:29:06 PM
Rich Travsky wrote:

swayser wrote:

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they



Wow you're stupid.

Seniors have their own games. Hey! Why don't those geezers compete
in the Olympics?!?!

Senior citizens are handicapped by the aging process stupid. Why do
homosexuals of the same age as the straight people in the Olympics have
a natural disability. Why shouldn't a queer be able to get themselves
into the kind of physical condition that straights do to compete against
them? Answer that question instead of supplying obviously fallacious
analogies.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050512/NEWS0102/505120423
In their quests for the gold, the aging athletes competing in next week's
Louisville Metro Regional Senior Games can expect more choice and less travel
time than in previous years.
...



compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?

And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.

BTW, what WAS the point of your post?

Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.
User: "Rich Travsky "

Title: Re: Religious Reich loonys attack Kraft Foods and Harris Bank 12 Jun 2005 11:34:53 PM
swayser wrote:


Rich Travsky wrote:

swayser wrote:

I have but one question. Why are homogames necessary? Why can't they



Wow you're stupid.

Seniors have their own games. Hey! Why don't those geezers compete
in the Olympics?!?!

Senior citizens are handicapped by the aging process stupid. Why do
homosexuals of the same age as the straight people in the Olympics have
a natural disability. Why shouldn't a queer be able to get themselves
into the kind of physical condition that straights do to compete against
them? Answer that question instead of supplying obviously fallacious
analogies.

Sigh. Rightards. That was just an example.
Here's Highland Games
http://www.celticarts.org/sponsors2.html
You can sponsor them too!
Here's the AfroAsian Games!
http://www.afroasiangames.org/gamescommittee_mktgcommittee.html
State Games of America!
http://www.stategames.org/sga/index.html
And probably bunches more - all sponsorable!

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050512/NEWS0102/505120423
In their quests for the gold, the aging athletes competing in next week's
Louisville Metro Regional Senior Games can expect more choice and less travel
time than in previous years.
...



compete in the real Olympics which I assume these games are suppose to
supplant for queers, but maybe I'm mistaken here. After all it would be
male against man and female against woman. Why do the queers need their
own games. Afraid straights will, (no laughing here, this is a metaphor)
cream them in open competition?

And what's wrong with family based groups voicing their opposition to
the sponsorship of the games by corporations. This is America though
you'd never know it by the attitudes of liberaloons. I like Oreo cookies
and Jello, but they're history in my home now. Thanks for the heads up.
I may never have learned about this if it weren't for your post.

BTW, what WAS the point of your post?

Harry Hope wrote:


From The Chicago Tribune, 6/6/05:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0506060226jun06,1,6883280.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Kraft, Harris Bank hit for Gay Games support

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter


Two conservative Christian groups are attacking two prominent
businesses for taking a high-profile role in the 2006 Gay Games in
Chicago.

The American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss., and the Illinois
Family Institute of Glen Ellyn are sharply criticizing Kraft Foods
Inc. and Harris Bank for each contributing $25,000 to the athletic
competition and now want the companies to take a less visible role by
removing logos and banners from the event.

"We don't think this is something a big corporation should get
behind," said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of Illinois Family
Institute, which says it promotes family values.

The groups say that by supporting the Gay Games, Kraft and Harris Bank
are in conflict with a public image that portrays the companies as
family-based and conservative.

It's the first time either group has lobbied against corporations
sponsoring the Gay Games and the first time Gay Games coordinators
have experienced this type of opposition.

Randy Sharp, director of special projects for American Family
Association, said he was shocked to learn that Kraft, the corporate
giant behind brands such as Oreo, Tang and Jell-O, would openly
support what he considers a "dangerous" and "unhealthy activity."

"When you look at all the Kraft commercials, they all revolve around
family and children," Sharp said.

"Now if I go buy Kraft mac and cheese, I'll know that part of my
dollar is going to sponsor Olympic-type games for men that have sex
together."

Sharp said Kraft employees upset over the sponsorship alerted the
American Family Association, which he said had never been critical of
the company's activities.

Protests so far have been limited to complaints, but they could
escalate to pickets and boycotts as the event draws near, Sharp said.

"We've got time," he said.

Conceived as a quadrennial sporting event in 1982, the Gay Games are a
vehicle to showcase athleticism in the gay community and promote
self-esteem, organizers say.

Host cities have included San Francisco, Sydney, Amsterdam and New
York.

Gay Games VII will be held over eight days next year in July at
various sites in Chicago. More than 10,000 athletes are expected to
compete in events that will include softball, track and field,
basketball and swimming.

Event organizers and Chicago officials expect roughly 100,000 people
to attend and an economic infusion of between $70 million and $80
million.

Chicago was named the host city last year after negotiations to hold
the Gay Games in Montreal failed.

Organizers Chicago Games Inc., which was an original bidder on the
2006 games, had two years to round up financial support.

A member of the Kraft Rainbow Council, one of many special-interest
groups at the food manufacturer, approached the company with the
possibility of sponsoring the games.

"We are standing behind our sponsorship," said Alyssa Burns, a Kraft
spokeswoman.

"It's something we want to support."

The company has declined to comment further on the opposition to its
stance.

The City of Chicago, which lobbied to be the host city, also isn't
deterred by the criticism.

"We haven't gotten any pressure to take back the games at all," said
William Greaves, Mayor Richard M. Daley's liaison to the gay
community.

"We're fully committed. It's a sporting event and the city is known
for putting on world-class sporting events."

Harris Bank also is not wavering in its sponsorship.

"Harris supports a wide variety of community events across a diverse
spectrum," said Jen Dillon, a bank spokeswoman.

"We are happy to join many other companies in the city's goal with
these games."

With Kraft and Harris Bank refusing to budge, the conservative groups
want their protests to serve as a warning to other prominent
businesses considering sponsorship roles.

Conservative groups have put pressure on other companies in the past.

They forced DaimlerChrysler to pull a Dodge ad from the 2003 "Lingerie
Bowl"; persuaded Mary Kay cosmetics to reconsider an ad buy on
"Desperate Housewives"; and recently claimed victory for Microsoft
Corp.'s decision to withdraw its support of state legislation that
would have banned discrimination against gays.

The complaints aren't hindering fundraising efforts, said Tracy Baim,
a Gay Games VII organizer and publisher of the alternative lifestyle
newspaper Windy City Times.

Event coordinators have raised more than $2 million in cash and are
continuing to successfully court corporate sponsors.

"In a perverse way, this is very flattering," said Roger Brigham,
spokesman for the Federation of Gay Games.

"They see us as a large enough movement to command their attention."

_________________________________________________________

Makes ya wanna chuckle, doesn't it.

Harry

.





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