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05 Sep 2006 10:51:53 AM |
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REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
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| User: "monkeyhawk" |
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04 Sep 2006 11:18:06 AM |
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"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit, you're a dupe, a fool, or a liar. Pick any three:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
Oliver Twisted
Claim: During the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings, Oliver North warned Congress
that Osama bin Laden was "the most evil person alive" and that "an assassin
team [should] be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the
earth."
Status: False.
Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2001]
Remember this?
I was at a UNC lecture the other day where they played a video of
Oliver North during the Iran-Contra deals during the Reagan administration.
I was only 14 back then but was surprised by this particular clip. There was
Olie in front of God and Country getting the third degree. But what he said
stunned me. He was being drilled by some senator I didn't recognize who
asked him:
'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security
system?'
Oliver replied, 'Yes I did sir.'
The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience,
'Isn't this just a little excessive?'
'No sir,' continued Oliver.
'No. And why not?'
'Because the life of my family and I were threatened.'
'Threatened? By who.'
'By a terrorist, sir.'
'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'
'His name is Osama bin Laden.'
At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't
pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of
people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.
'Why are you so afraid of this man?'
'Because sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of.'
'And what do you recommend we do about him?'
'If it were me I would recommend an assassin team be formed to
eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'
The senator disagreed with this approach and that was all they showed
of the clip.
It's scary when you think 15 years ago the government was aware of
Osama bin Laden and his potential threat to the security of the world. I
guess like all great tyrants they start small but if left untended spread
like the virus they truly are.
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Variations: One of the versions of this item that was circulated concluded
with the statement "The senator disagreed with this approach and that was
all that was shown of the clip. If anyone is interested, the Senator turned
out to be none other than ... Al Gore." (Senator Al Gore of Tennessee was
not a member of the United States Senate Select Committee on Secret Military
Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition and therefore did not take
part in the questioning of any witnesses before the Committee.)
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Origins: For most of us who watched the televised Joint Hearings Before
the Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the
Nicaraguan Opposition and the House Select Committee to Investigate Covert
Arms Transactions with Iran (better known as the "Iran-Contra hearings,"
held by Congress to determine whether the Reagan administration had secretly
and illegally sold arms to Iran in order to secure the release of American
hostages, then used the profits from those sales to fund the contra rebels
in Nicaragua) in 1987, the enduring image we came away with was a memory of
an unapologetic and resolute Lt. Col. Oliver North delivering testimony in a
Marine uniform. North, who was a central figure in the plan to secretly ship
arms to Iran despite a U.S. trade and arms embargo, and who as a National
Security Council aide directed efforts to raise private and foreign funds
for the contras despite a Congressional prohibition on U.S. government
agencies' providing military aid to the Nicaraguan rebels, testified before
Congress under a grant of limited immunity in July 1987.
Although North had been granted limited immunity for his testimony, he was
later convicted of criminal charges related to Iran-Contra activities (a
conviction that was eventually overturned on the grounds that witnesses had
been influenced by his immunized testimony). One of the charges against
North was that he had received a $16,000 home security system paid for out
of the proceeds of the Iran-Contra affair and had forged documents to cover
his receipt of an illegal gratuity. North admitted that he knew the security
system was a "gift" but maintained he never inquired about who had paid for
it or how it was financed, and he was insistent that he needed the security
system because the government had failed to provide adequate protection
against international terrorists for him and his family.
The terrorist North mentioned in his testimony was not Osama bin Laden,
however. To the extent that bin Laden was known to the western world in
1987, it was not as a "terrorist" but as one of the U.S.-backed "freedom
fighters" participating in the war against the Soviet occupation of
Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden's hatred of the U.S. and conversion to
"terrorist" status is not believed to have come about until the Gulf War of
1990-91, when he was outspokenly critical of Saudi Arabian dependence upon
the U.S. military and denounced U.S. support of a "corrupt, materialist, and
irreligious" Saudi monarchy. (The Saudi Arabian government stripped bin
Laden of his citizenship in 1994 for his funding of militant fundamentalist
Islamic groups.)
Oliver North did not testify about or mention the name Osama bin Laden
during the Iran-Contra hearings. He claimed that threats against his life
had been made by terrorist Abu Nidal, telling a congressional committee: Abu
Nidal is, as I am sure you on the Intelligence Committee know, the
principal, foremost assassin in the world today. He is a brutal murderer.
And I would like to just, if I may, just read to you a little bit about Mr.
Abu Nidal ...
"Abu Nidal, the radical Palestinian guerrilla leader, linked to last
Friday's attacks in Rome and Vienna" - that was the so-called Christmas
massacre in which 19 people died and 200 were wounded - "is the world's most
wanted terrorist." That is the Christian Science Monitor. When you look at
his whole career, Abu Nidal makes the infamous terrorist Carlos [the Jackal]
look like a Boy Scout.
Abu Nidal himself, quoted in Der Spiegel, "Between America and us, there
exists a war to the death. In the coming months and years, Americans will be
thinking about us."
"For sheer viciousness, Abu Nidal has few rivals in the underworld of
terrorism." Newseek.
Our own State Department, and we have copies of these that we can make
available for insertion in the record, but the State Department summary on
Abu Nidal, not exactly an overstatement, notes that his followers, who
number an estimated 500, have killed as many as 181 persons, and wounded
more than 200, in two years.
Abu Nidal does not deny these things. We also have an exhibit that we can
provide for you that shows what Abu Nidal did in the Christmas Massacres.
One of the people killed in the Christmas Massacre - and I do not wish to
overdramatize this - but the Abu Nidal terrorists in Rome who blasted the
11-year-old American Natasha Simpson to her knees, deliberately zeroed in
and fired an extra burst at her head just in case.
I want you to know that I'd be more than willing ... to meet Abu Nidal on
equal terms anywhere in the world. There's an even deal for him. OK? But I
am not willing to have my wife and my four children meet Abu Nidal or his
organization on his terms.
To emphasize his point, North showed the committee a blow-up of a newspaper
article detailing the atrocities of Abu Nidal and recalled that an
11-year-old girl named Natasha Simpson, the daughter of an Associated Press
news editor, had been gunned down (along with four other Americans) during
an attack by an Abu Nidal group on the El Al terminal at the Rome airport in
December 1985. North also later claimed that an attempt on his life had been
made five months before his congressional testimony at the instigation of
Libyan leader Mohmmar Qadaffi:
In February 1987, Muammar Ghadaffi ordered his thugs to carry out a threat
made against me in 1986. Thankfully, the FBI intercepted the well-armed
perpetrators on the way to our home, and my family and I were sequestered
for a time on a military base. The orders from Tripoli were delivered to a
terrorist cell in Virginia - at the offices of The People's Committee for
Libyan Students.
So no, Oliver North didn't warn us back in 1987 about Osama bin Laden's
"potential threat to the security of the world" or suggest that bin Laden be
hunted down by "an assassin team," nor was he given the brush-off by a
clueless senator "who disagreed with this approach." Eventually, Col. North
drafted his own response to this piece of misinformation:
FROM THE DESK OF LTCOL OLIVER L. NORTH (USMC) RET.
NOVEMBER 28, 2001
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL THOUSAND
E-MAILS FROM EVERY STATE IN THE U.S. AND 13 FOREIGN COUNTRIES IN WHICH THE
ORIGINATOR PURPORTS TO HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED A VIDEOTAPE OF MY SWORN
TESTIMONY BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IN 1987.
A COPY OF ONE OF THOSE E-MAILS IS ATTACHED BELOW. AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE
ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND
OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE
GIFT OF PROPHESY, I DON'T HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SAW WHAT VIDEO "AT UNC." (OR ANYWHERE ELSE) BUT, FOR THE
RECORD, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW:
1. IT WAS THE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, JOHN NIELDS, NOT A SENATOR WHO WAS DOING
THE QUESTIONING.
2. THE SECURITY SYSTEM, INSTALLED AT MY HOME, JUST BEFORE I MADE A VERY
SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, COST, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE, $16K, NOT $60K.
3. THE TERRORIST WHO THREATENED TO KILL ME IN 1986, JUST BEFORE THAT SECRET
TRIP TO TEHRAN, WAS NOT USAMA BIN LADEN, IT WAS ABU NIDAL (WHO WORKS FOR THE
LIBYANS - NOT THE TALIBAN AND NOT IN AFGHANISTAN).
4. I NEVER SAID I WAS AFRAID OF ANYBODY. I DID SAY THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO
MEET ABU NIDAL ON EQUAL TERMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THAT I WAS UNWILLING
TO HAVE HIM OR HIS OPERATIVES MEET MY WIFE AND CHILDREN ON HIS TERMS.
5. I DID SAY THAT THE TERRORISTS INTERCEPTED BY THE FBI ON THE WAY TO MY
HOUSE IN FEB. 87 TO KILL MY WIFE, CHILDREN AND ME WERE LIBYANS, DISPATCHED
FROM THE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE FOR LIBYAN STUDENTS IN MCLEAN, VIRGINIA.
6. AND I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR
HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE
THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL
FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED).
7. AND, FYI: THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS REMAINED AT OUR HOME UNTIL I RETIRED FROM
THE MARINES AND WAS NO LONGER A "GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL." BY THEN, THE UNITED
STATES GOVERNMENT HAD SPENT MORE THAN $2M PROTECTING THE NORTH FAMILY. THE
TERRORISTS SENT TO KILL US WERE NEVER RE-APPREHENDED.
SEMPER FIDELIS,
OLIVER L. NORTH
In mid-2002, the "Oliver North warned us about Osama" falsity was twinned in
e-mail with another wildly popular Internet muddling, the "We freed Mohammed
Atta" claim. Like its North counterpart, the Atta story was largely false.
Additional information:
Testimony of Oliver L. North
Last updated: 30 August 2006
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
05 Sep 2006 08:48:28 AM |
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(ViperSpit) wrote in
news:edhi7f$g9f$1@news.datemas.de:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the
then congressional delegation that he considered Osama Bin Laden
the most dangerous man in the world.
How could you "remember" something that never happened?
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
"Oliver North did not testify about or mention the name Osama bin
Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings."
"Senator Al Gore of Tennessee was not a member of the United States
Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the
Nicaraguan Opposition and therefore did not take part in the
questioning of any witnesses before the Committee."
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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| User: "Babs" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
05 Sep 2006 08:55:01 AM |
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typuical rightie spewing the right winged propagandaand then not backing
it up
"Bert Hyman" <> wrote in message
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liberalmaster@moveon.org (ViperSpit) wrote in
news:edhi7f$g9f$1@news.datemas.de:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the
then congressional delegation that he considered Osama Bin Laden
the most dangerous man in the world.
How could you "remember" something that never happened?
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
"Oliver North did not testify about or mention the name Osama bin
Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings."
"Senator Al Gore of Tennessee was not a member of the United States
Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the
Nicaraguan Opposition and therefore did not take part in the
questioning of any witnesses before the Committee."
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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| User: "robbinh00d" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
04 Sep 2006 10:57:54 AM |
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Got proof that OBL is dangerous? Nobody does.
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:edhi7f$g9f$1@news.datemas.de...
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
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| User: "SyVyN11" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
04 Sep 2006 06:13:17 PM |
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"robbinh00d" <cmonmanImean4real@aol.com> wrote in message
news:62YKg.9582$JR5.8282@dukeread11...
Got proof that OBL is dangerous? Nobody does.
You're right, nothing except a smoldering crater in New York City!
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:edhi7f$g9f$1@news.datemas.de...
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
06 Sep 2006 05:26:22 PM |
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:51:53 -0500, "ViperSpit"
<liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Hey Dumb Spit - it never happened. But ya never know. Tell a lie often
enough and it becomes truth. Now, where have I heard that before?
Mebbe Rove's role model?
WB Yeats
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| User: "SyVyN11" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
06 Sep 2006 05:49:05 PM |
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<wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:51:53 -0500, "ViperSpit"
<liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Hey Dumb Spit - it never happened. But ya never know. Tell a lie often
enough and it becomes truth. Now, where have I heard that before?
Mebbe Rove's role model?
That's the democratic mantra!
WB Yeats
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
06 Sep 2006 06:53:00 PM |
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"SyVyN11" <syvyn11@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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<wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message
news:4liuf2tefibdin21jnkus7lhafsh3li0jn@4ax.com...
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:51:53 -0500, "ViperSpit"
<liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's
assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to
do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Hey Dumb Spit - it never happened. But ya never know. Tell a lie often
enough and it becomes truth. Now, where have I heard that before?
Mebbe Rove's role model?
That's the democratic mantra!
lol Keep supporting the guy who sold antiaircraft missiles to Iran. We
Dems think it's funny to watch you repubs do that.
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| User: "jmcgill" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
04 Sep 2006 06:39:21 PM |
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings
Yeah, spit. Spin Iran-Contra as some kind of failing for the Democrats.
Right. Did you change your address? Too many killfiles?
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| User: "carlos" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
04 Sep 2006 01:13:38 PM |
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Hello,
He named Abu Nidal, not Osama Bin Laden, you idiot.
Carlos
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
05 Sep 2006 10:48:20 AM |
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On 4 Sep 2006 11:13:38 -0700, "carlos" <carlosmachina@gmail.com>
wrote:
ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Hello,
He named Abu Nidal, not Osama Bin Laden, you idiot.
Carlos
You can't expect the neocon asswipes to be truthful about anything now
can you? I sure don't. I realize that they don't think for themselves
at all and neither do the idiot liberals. Both parties are two sides
of the same coin.
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| User: "SilentOtto" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
04 Sep 2006 11:18:07 AM |
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Spitting another rightard lie...
During the Iran-Contra period, bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in
Afghanistan.
Tell me, which rightard website did you get this bogus info from?
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| User: "Prescott Hitler" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH AIDED THE ENEMY AND LIED TO CONGRESS? |
04 Sep 2006 12:10:16 PM |
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"SilentOtto" <silentotto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157386687.137307.76220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Spitting another rightard lie...
During the Iran-Contra period, bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in
Afghanistan.
Tell me, which rightard website did you get this bogus info from?
Hardly Davidson's not just a liar, she's confused. Democrats don't take
advice from convicted criminals, Republicans do--in fact, they give them
Cabinet positions.
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04 Sep 2006 12:46:21 PM |
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"Prescott Hitler" <bushnazi@yawol.com> wrote in message
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"SilentOtto" <silentotto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the
then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's
assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to
do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Spitting another rightard lie...
During the Iran-Contra period, bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in
Afghanistan.
Tell me, which rightard website did you get this bogus info from?
Hardly Davidson's not just a liar, she's confused. Democrats don't take
advice from convicted criminals, Republicans do--in fact, they give them
Cabinet positions.
If you can't enter into a debate without making childess attacks, you will
have to be muted.
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05 Sep 2006 11:19:22 AM |
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Prescott Hitler wrote:
"SilentOtto" <silentotto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157386687.137307.76220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Spitting another rightard lie...
During the Iran-Contra period, bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in
Afghanistan.
Tell me, which rightard website did you get this bogus info from?
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Hardly Davidson's not just a liar, she's confused. Democrats don't take
advice from convicted criminals, Republicans do--in fact, they give them
Cabinet positions.
Imagine even if this lie, regarding North's alleged warning about Bin
Laden, were true, what it would mean:
It would mean both Reagan and Bush Sr knowingly armed and provided CIA
support to the guy their former National Security Advisor had told them
was the greatest terrorist threat to America in 1987.
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| User: "Lloyd King" |
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05 Sep 2006 10:53:34 AM |
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"SilentOtto" <silentotto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157386687.137307.76220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
Spitting another rightard lie...
During the Iran-Contra period, bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in
Afghanistan.
Tell me, which rightard website did you get this bogus info from?
It's one of those well-known internet email frauds, like the "Robin
Williams' Plan for the US" and "Jane Fonda Was Told Off by A Restaurant
Manager" ***** stories. It's been roundly debunked many times - see
snopes, etc. But the right wingers never were big on truth.
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04 Sep 2006 11:22:37 AM |
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
You mean before or after Ollie gave weapons to Iran? Either way, Osama
was a most favored terrorist of the CIA at the time, as he was fighting
the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
I'm sure somewhere old Ollie's got a thank you note from Osama for the
stinger missiles.
Spit
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04 Sep 2006 01:37:23 PM |
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<tomaxo@aol.com> wrote in message
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ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's
assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to
do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
You mean before or after Ollie gave weapons to Iran? Either way, Osama
was a most favored terrorist of the CIA at the time, as he was fighting
the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
I'm sure somewhere old Ollie's got a thank you note from Osama for the
stinger missiles.
Yet another shining example of vipeshit's lack of intelligence and
integrity.
Keep it up Skippy, the Dems are just loving assbites like yourself, you
can't by this kind of advertisement.
( bet the little troll won't have a clue what I mean)
Jim C.
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05 Sep 2006 10:12:43 AM |
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Jim wrote:
<tomaxo@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1157386957.181715.105920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
ViperSpit wrote:
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's
assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to
do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
You mean before or after Ollie gave weapons to Iran? Either way, Osama
was a most favored terrorist of the CIA at the time, as he was fighting
the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
I'm sure somewhere old Ollie's got a thank you note from Osama for the
stinger missiles.
Yet another shining example of vipeshit's lack of intelligence and
integrity.
Keep it up Skippy, the Dems are just loving assbites like yourself, you
can't by this kind of advertisement.
( bet the little troll won't have a clue what I mean)
What's funny about the lie this guy is trying to float (that Ollie
North called Bin Laden the most dangerous terrorist during the 1987
Iran-Contra hearings) is that it would mean both Reagan and Bush Sr.
knowingly armed and provided CIA Intel support to someone their former
National Security Advisor called the most dangerous terrorist threat to
America.
They are in such dissaray right now they can't even coordinate their
lies in a maner that doesn't embarass themselves.
Jim C.
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04 Sep 2006 01:20:55 PM |
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On 4 Sep 2006 , wrote:
REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH GAVE WEAPONS TO IRAN
Don't forget the delicious key-shaped cake that Ollie gave to Iran,
along with the Bible signed by Saint Ronnie.
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| User: "" |
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04 Sep 2006 06:51:58 PM |
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Chuck Feney wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 , wrote:
REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH GAVE WEAPONS TO IRAN
Don't forget the delicious key-shaped cake that Ollie gave to Iran,
along with the Bible signed by Saint Ronnie.
Yeah, it's pretty funny when these Republi-Kooks' ignorance of history
causes them to embarass themselves with their own statements. I mean,
let's presume the false allegation made by the original poster that
Ollie North stated Bin Laden was the greatest threat back in 1987 when
the hearings took place. What would it have meant:
It would have meant:
A) That both Reagan and Bush Sr.knowingly armed and provided CIA
support to the man their former National Security Advisor called the
greatest terrorist threat to America
and
B) That Bush Sr did nothing in his entire 4 years as President to stop
the greatest terrorist threat against America.
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| User: "Babs" |
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| Title: Re: REMEMBER WHEN OLLIE NORTH WARNED GORE ABOUT BIN LADEN |
05 Sep 2006 08:45:21 AM |
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good one righty
stupid *****
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:edhi7f$g9f$1@news.datemas.de...
This during the Iran Contra hearings, in which Ollie North told the then
congressional delegation that
he considered Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man in the world.
Al Gore responded by chuckling, and questioning the Colonel's assessment.
Hurrican Gore and "The White House Brothel Manager" had eight years to do
something
about it, but apparently it was just a joke ..........
Spit
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