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Report: Iran's Oil Exports May Disappear |
Report: Iran's Oil Exports May Disappear
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 25, 2006 | Barry Schweid
WASHINGTON — Iran is suffering a staggering decline in revenue from
its oil exports, and if the trend continues income could virtually
disappear by 2015, according to an analysis published Monday in a
journal of the National Academy of Sciences.
Iran's economic woes could make the country unstable and vulnerable,
with its oil industry crippled, Roger Stern, an economic geographer at
Johns Hopkins University, said in the report and in an interview.
Iran earns about $50 billion a year in oil exports. The decline is
estimated at 10 to 12 percent annually. In less than five years
exports could be halved and then disappear by 2015, Stern predicted.
For two decades, the United States has deployed military forces in the
region in a strategy to pre-empt emergence of a regional superpower.
Iraq was stopped in the 1991 Persian Gulf War, but a hostile Iran
remains a target of U.S. threats.
The U.S. military exercises have not stopped Iran's drive. But the
report said the country could be destabilized by declining oil
exports, hostility to foreign investment to develop new oil resources
and poor state planning, Stern said.
Stern's analysis, which appears in this week's edition of the
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, supports U.S. and
European suspicions that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons in
violation of international understandings. But, Stern says, there
could be merit to Iran's assertion that it needs nuclear power for
civilian purposes "as badly as it claims."
He said oil production is declining and both gas and oil are being
sold domestically at highly subsidized rates. At the same time, Iran
is neglecting to reinvest in its oil production.
"With an explosive demand at home and poor management, the appeal of
nuclear power, financed by Russia, could fill a real need for
production of more electricity."
Iran produces about 3.7 million barrels a day, about 300,000 barrels
below the quota set for Iran by the oil cartel, the Organization of
Petroleum Exporting Countries.
The shortfall represents a loss of about $5.5 billion a year, Stern
said. In 2004, Iran's oil profits were 65 percent of the government's
revenues.
"If we look at that shortfall, and failure to rectify leaks in their
refineries, that adds up to a loss of about $10 billion to $11 billion
a year," he said. "That is a picture of an industry in collapse."
If the United States can "hold its breath" for a few years it may find
Iran a much more conciliatory country, he said. And that, Stern said,
is good reason to belay any instinct to take on Iran militarily.
"What they are doing to themselves is much worse than anything we
could do," he said.
"The one thing that would unite the country right now is to bomb
them," Stern said. "Here is one problem that might solve itself."
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Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
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I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
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21 Jan 2007 02:52:21 PM |
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I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
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The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
In that case, then maybe it's against her religion to be a a police
officer. After all, if she ever has to arrest a man, who's she going
to do that without touching him?
Funny how Muslims in Europe want the country to bend over backward to
accomodate their beliefs when they don't want to do the same for
others...
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21 Jan 2007 03:05:16 PM |
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Captain Compassion reposted:
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Read before you post, cretin.
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:05:16 +0200, "halle" <halle@kalle.nalle> wrote:
Captain Compassion reposted:
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Read before you post, cretin.
The article was first posted with an incorrect subject line. This is
the correct title.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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22 Jan 2007 06:45:46 AM |
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How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:45:46 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
If the lady officer has a phobia against interaction with males how
can she do her job?
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:45:46 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
If the lady officer has a phobia against interaction with males how
can she do her job?
Just practicing her religion.
If you call practicing religion illogical fear, then I agree.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:38:41 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:45:46 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
If the lady officer has a phobia against interaction with males how
can she do her job?
Just practicing her religion.
If you call practicing religion illogical fear, then I agree.
It's a practical type of thing. Very few Mormon bartenders.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:jjk7r2p4tuagraasc0kfb30k8e3do3pm11@4ax.com...
I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
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23 Jan 2007 03:54:59 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:38:41 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:45:46 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
If the lady officer has a phobia against interaction with males how
can she do her job?
Just practicing her religion.
If you call practicing religion illogical fear, then I agree.
It's a practical type of thing. Very few Mormon bartenders.
And protecting people from criminals requires shaking hands?
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:jjk7r2p4tuagraasc0kfb30k8e3do3pm11@4ax.com...
I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here,
not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they
alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them
suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success
is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
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23 Jan 2007 04:15:31 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:54:59 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:38:41 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:45:46 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
How pathetic does ones life have to be for this to be offensive?
The interaction of two people in another country.
Pathetic.
If the lady officer has a phobia against interaction with males how
can she do her job?
Just practicing her religion.
If you call practicing religion illogical fear, then I agree.
It's a practical type of thing. Very few Mormon bartenders.
And protecting people from criminals requires shaking hands?
Perhaps. It certainly requires physical contact.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:jjk7r2p4tuagraasc0kfb30k8e3do3pm11@4ax.com...
I cannot shake your hand, sir. I'm a Muslim and you're a man
By MARTIN SMITH - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:07pm on 20th January 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=430249&in_page_id=1770
A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to
shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious
reasons.
The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200
recruits.
In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from
Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf -
also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the
picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious
teaching for her to touch a man.
Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked
top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her
ability to detain offenders.
However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men,
just not shake their hand or kiss them.
An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described
as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that
her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective
police officer.
However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would
deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim
community.
The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and
conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200
recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18
weeks' basic training.
A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her
training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because
it was against her religion.
"She also said she did not want her picture taken with the
commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
"Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This
has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to
go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
"He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from
her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
"There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were
asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to
touch men."
Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been
assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for
two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on
December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not
to shake Sir Ian's hand.
"It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to
minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the
smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an
officer's career,' she said.
"The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the
matter is being looked at by the MPS."
The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic
training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come
into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'.
Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There
is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out
parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty
there."
Scotland Yard has allowed Muslim WPCs to wear an adaptation of the
hijab since 2001.
But, despite a vigorous recruitment campaign, there are still only
around 300 Muslims among the Met's 35,000 officers and fewer than 20
are women.
The incident is the latest in a series of 'political correctness' and
race-related rows under Sir Ian's command at the Met.
Last October, at the height of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, PC
Alexander Basha, 24, was moved from Diplomatic Protection Group duties
at the Israeli Embassy because he feared his Lebanese relatives could
be targeted if he was seen on TV.
In June 2005 Sir Ian was judged to have 'hung out to dry' three white
detectives - who were accused of rudely mispronouncing "Shi'ites' - to
prove his anti-racist credentials.
An employment tribunal said that while he was deputy commissioner in
charge of discipline and diversity he had prejudiced disciplinary
proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of
them.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here,
not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they
alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them
suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success
is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
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