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"Harry Hope" |
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08 Dec 2006 10:20:24 AM |
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Republicans are gonna hafta find a new way to steal elections |
From The New York Times, 12/8/06:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/washington/08voting.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1165590741-ZEmfhu3kh/2BbnlMWoTRzw
Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
By IAN URBINA and CHRISTOPHER DREW
By the 2008 presidential election, voters around the country are
likely to see sweeping changes in how they cast their ballots and how
those ballots are counted, including an end to the use of most
electronic voting machines without a paper trail, federal voting
officials and legislators say.
New federal guidelines, along with legislation given a strong chance
to pass in Congress next year, will probably combine to make the
paperless voting machines obsolete, the officials say.
States and counties that bought the machines will have to modify them
to hook up printers, at federal expense, while others are planning to
scrap the machines and buy new ones.
Motivated in part by voting problems during the midterm elections last
month, the changes are a result of a growing skepticism among local
and state election officials, federal legislators and the scientific
community about the reliability and security of the paperless
touch-screen machines used by about 30 percent of American voters.
The changes also mean that the various forms of vote-counting software
used around the country -- most of which are protected by their
manufacturers for reasons of trade secrecy -- will for the first time
be inspected by federal authorities, and the code could be made
public.
There will also be greater federal oversight on how new machines are
tested before they arrive at polling stations.
"In the next two years I think we’ll see the kinds of sweeping changes
that people expected to see right after the 2000 election," said Doug
Chapin, director of electionline.org, a nonpartisan election group.
"The difference now is that we have moved from politics down to
policies."
Many of the paperless machines were bought in a rush to overhaul the
voting system after the disputed presidential election in 2000, which
was marred by hanging chads.
But concerns have been growing that in a close election those machines
give election workers no legitimate way to conduct a recount or to
check for malfunctions or fraud.
Several counties around the country are already considering scrapping
their voting systems after problems this year, and last week federal
technology experts concluded for the first time that paperless
touch-screen machines could not be secured from tampering.
Having stalled for over two years, federal legislation requiring a
shift to paper trails and other safeguards, proposed by Representative
Rush D. Holt, Democrat of New Jersey, has a better chance of passing
next session, several members of Congress and election officials say.
They say that fixing the voting system is viewed as a core issue by
the new Democratic leaders, and the bill already has the bipartisan
support of more than a majority of the current House.
Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, who will be the new
chairwoman of the Senate Rules and Administration Committee, said she
planned to introduce a similar bill in January.
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Awwwww. *Now* what are the Republicans gonna do
Harry
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re:Democrat Neanderthals Will Have Us Scratching Our Votes On A Rock Next |
08 Dec 2006 02:47:56 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:964jn21fklovum1nhcmtgchk9ciijeokc4@4ax.com...
From The New York Times, 12/8/06:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/washington/08voting.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1165590741-ZEmfhu3kh/2BbnlMWoTRzw
Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
By IAN URBINA and CHRISTOPHER DREW
By the 2008 presidential election, voters around the country are
likely to see sweeping changes in how they cast their ballots and how
those ballots are counted, including an end to the use of most
electronic voting machines without a paper trail, federal voting
officials and legislators say.
New federal guidelines, along with legislation given a strong chance
to pass in Congress next year, will probably combine to make the
paperless voting machines obsolete, the officials say.
States and counties that bought the machines will have to modify them
to hook up printers, at federal expense, while others are planning to
scrap the machines and buy new ones.
Democrat "progressives" already working hard to move us forward to 1956.
Can you regressives say "antiquated"? I knew that you could.
Have a nice day,
Ken
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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| Title: Re: Re:Democrat Neanderthals Will Have Us Scratching Our Votes On A Rock Next |
09 Dec 2006 08:38:48 AM |
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"Ken" <Leftists@Useful_Idiot_Savants.com> wrote in message
news:a702d$4579cf8b$450111a3$4184@KNOLOGY.NET...
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:964jn21fklovum1nhcmtgchk9ciijeokc4@4ax.com...
From The New York Times, 12/8/06:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/washington/08voting.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1165590741-ZEmfhu3kh/2BbnlMWoTRzw
Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
By IAN URBINA and CHRISTOPHER DREW
By the 2008 presidential election, voters around the country are
likely to see sweeping changes in how they cast their ballots and how
those ballots are counted, including an end to the use of most
electronic voting machines without a paper trail, federal voting
officials and legislators say.
New federal guidelines, along with legislation given a strong chance
to pass in Congress next year, will probably combine to make the
paperless voting machines obsolete, the officials say.
States and counties that bought the machines will have to modify them
to hook up printers, at federal expense, while others are planning to
scrap the machines and buy new ones.
Democrat "progressives" already working hard to move us forward to 1956.
Can you regressives say "antiquated"? I knew that you could.
Have a nice day,
Ken
Kenster, to put it simply, Diebold machines don't work. NIST said so.
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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| Title: Re: Democrat Neanderthals Will Have Us Scratching Our Votes On A RockNext |
10 Dec 2006 01:23:08 AM |
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
"Ken" <Leftists@Useful_Idiot_Savants.com> wrote in message
news:a702d$4579cf8b$450111a3$4184@KNOLOGY.NET...
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:964jn21fklovum1nhcmtgchk9ciijeokc4@4ax.com...
From The New York Times, 12/8/06:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/washington/08voting.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1165590741-ZEmfhu3kh/2BbnlMWoTRzw
Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
By the 2008 presidential election, voters around the country are
likely to see sweeping changes in how they cast their ballots and how
those ballots are counted, including an end to the use of most
electronic voting machines without a paper trail, federal voting
officials and legislators say.
New federal guidelines, along with legislation given a strong chance
to pass in Congress next year, will probably combine to make the
paperless voting machines obsolete, the officials say.
States and counties that bought the machines will have to modify them
to hook up printers, at federal expense, while others are planning to
scrap the machines and buy new ones.
Democrat "progressives" already working hard to move us forward to 1956.
Can you regressives say "antiquated"? I knew that you could.
Have a nice day,
Ken
Kenster, to put it simply, Diebold machines don't work. NIST said so.
And why are they against verification?
RT
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Re:Democrat Neanderthals Will Have Us Scratching Our Votes On A Rock Next |
10 Dec 2006 04:40:31 AM |
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Ken wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
Oh, that's a funny title! Got a good laugh out of that one.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Democrat Neanderthals Will Have Us Scratching Our Votes On A Rock Next |
08 Dec 2006 04:56:04 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:47:56 -0600, "Ken"
<Leftists@Useful_Idiot_Savants.com> wrote:
Democrat "progressives" already working hard to move us forward to 1956.
You stupid fuckwit, Kenloon
In "1956", conservatives ruled America with
reactionary, arbitrary law, particularily in state and
local government
You had little or no Civil Liberties in 1956
You had no right to an attorney, nor one present when
being questioned
You had no right to be informed of what your rights
are.
In 1956, conservatives passed restrictive voter
registration laws to keep minorities from voting
In 1956 women were nearly 2nd class citizens, much less
blacks
In 1956 there were millions of homeless and hungry
In 1956 we were still suffering from McCarthyism (a
republican conservative fascist)
The laws that were thrown out were done by "LIBERALS"
and THAT gave you what YOU have today, you dumb
fuckwit.
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| User: "DefendUSA.blogspot.com" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans are gonna hafta find a new way to steal elections |
08 Dec 2006 11:24:57 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The New York Times, 12/8/06:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/washington/08voting.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1165590741-ZEmfhu3kh/2BbnlMWoTRzw
Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
By IAN URBINA and CHRISTOPHER DREW
By the 2008 presidential election, voters around the country are
likely to see sweeping changes in how they cast their ballots and how
those ballots are counted, including an end to the use of most
electronic voting machines without a paper trail, federal voting
officials and legislators say.
New federal guidelines, along with legislation given a strong chance
to pass in Congress next year, will probably combine to make the
paperless voting machines obsolete, the officials say.
States and counties that bought the machines will have to modify them
to hook up printers, at federal expense, while others are planning to
scrap the machines and buy new ones.
Motivated in part by voting problems during the midterm elections last
month, the changes are a result of a growing skepticism among local
and state election officials, federal legislators and the scientific
community about the reliability and security of the paperless
touch-screen machines used by about 30 percent of American voters.
The changes also mean that the various forms of vote-counting software
used around the country -- most of which are protected by their
manufacturers for reasons of trade secrecy -- will for the first time
be inspected by federal authorities, and the code could be made
public.
There will also be greater federal oversight on how new machines are
tested before they arrive at polling stations.
"In the next two years I think we'll see the kinds of sweeping changes
that people expected to see right after the 2000 election," said Doug
Chapin, director of electionline.org, a nonpartisan election group.
"The difference now is that we have moved from politics down to
policies."
Many of the paperless machines were bought in a rush to overhaul the
voting system after the disputed presidential election in 2000, which
was marred by hanging chads.
But concerns have been growing that in a close election those machines
give election workers no legitimate way to conduct a recount or to
check for malfunctions or fraud.
Several counties around the country are already considering scrapping
their voting systems after problems this year, and last week federal
technology experts concluded for the first time that paperless
touch-screen machines could not be secured from tampering.
Having stalled for over two years, federal legislation requiring a
shift to paper trails and other safeguards, proposed by Representative
Rush D. Holt, Democrat of New Jersey, has a better chance of passing
next session, several members of Congress and election officials say.
They say that fixing the voting system is viewed as a core issue by
the new Democratic leaders, and the bill already has the bipartisan
support of more than a majority of the current House.
Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, who will be the new
chairwoman of the Senate Rules and Administration Committee, said she
planned to introduce a similar bill in January.
_______________________________________________________
Awwwww. *Now* what are the Republicans gonna do
Harry
They can always tell minorities that their polling place has changed or
the date has changed, but once we have accurate counting, at least the
exit polls will start matching the actual vote again. This is a good
thing, but it is 8 years, 6000 Americans and two towers late.
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