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"Harry Hope" |
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08 Jul 2005 08:35:50 PM |
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Right Wing ***** media bows to its master, Karl Rove |
http://www.alternet.org/story/23435/
Is Rove Going Down?
By Arianna Huffington, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted July 8, 2005.
Will Karl Rove be able to get away with claiming he didn't know
Valerie Plame was an undercover agent?
He will if the media continue to ignore the story.
How is it that the second most powerful man in America is about to
take a fall and the mainstream media are largely taking a pass?
Could it be that the fear of Karl Rove and this White House is so
great that not even the biggest of the media big boys are willing to
take them on?
Does the answer to that one go without saying?
Chatter about the Rove story has come to dominate the downtime at the
Aspen Institute's five-day Ideas Festival.
Whenever participants are not in sessions, they're gathering in small
groups and dissecting, analyzing, and speculating about the outcome of
this surprisingly slow-breaking scandal.
One such discussion took place just after David Gergen had finished a
conversation with Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life,"
which has sold 25 million copies in hardback.
A cluster of high-powered media insiders quickly switched over to "The
Gossip-Driven Reality."
The well-informed suppositions were flying faster than the peloton at
the Tour de France.
I can tell you what was said, I just can't tell you who was saying it.
According to the players, the key to whether this story has real legs
-- and whether it will spell the end of Rove -- is determining intent.
And a key to that is whether there was a meeting at the White House
where Rove and Scooter Libby discussed what to do with the information
they had gotten from the State Department about Valerie Plame being
Joe Wilson's wife, and her involvement in his being sent on the
Niger/yellowcake mission.
If it can be proven that such a meeting occurred, then Rove will be in
deep trouble -- especially if it is established that Rove made three
phone calls leaking the info about Plame and her CIA gig? one to Matt
Cooper, one to Walter Pincus, and one to Robert Novak.
Other than intent, the other big legal question raised was:
will Rove be able to get away with claiming that he did not know Plame
was an undercover agent?
We all know what happened after Rove placed those calls.
The question is, what will happen now?
From the way they've acted so far, the mainstream media would rather
this scandal just go away.
Just look at the way Newsweek handled the Rove-outed-Plame story in
this week's edition.
The editors obviously knew they had a hot story and could have pushed
it hard.
Instead, it's clear that they lawyered it within an inch of its life
-- a bunch of legal eagles with faint hearts removing any juice and
most of the meat from it.
As one of the Aspen wags put it: "Once Newsweek flushed the Koran down
the toilet, you can bet they'll think twenty times before they pull
down the handle again."
Want another example?
Just look at how the White House press corps is dealing with the
story: by avoiding it completely.
Today's press gaggle took place aboard Air Force One on the way to
Scotland.
Now, given that Rove may or may not be the subject of a federal
investigation, one would think that our intrepid White House reporters
might, you know, ask the White House spokesman about that.
But if you do a text search for the word "Rove" in this transcript
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050706-6.html,
you'll see that not a single press person thought that the fact that
the President of the United States' most trusted advisor is, at the
very least, a key player in a criminal investigation was worth a
single question to Scottie McClellan.
Not a one.
This is all the more significant because of the role McClellan may
eventually play in Rove's fate.
As Newsweek reported and I blogged about, when this story began
heating up, McClellan went out of his way to defend Rove -- saying
that he'd been "assured" that Rove was not involved in the leaking.
"Rove will have no compunction about lying through his teeth to save
himself, counting on the fact that Cooper's emails are, apparently,
not cut and dried," one of the group said.
And it doesn't hurt that Rove's underlings would rather fall on their
swords than tell the truth... which, in the Bush White House, is seen
as selling out.
All of which would leave McClellan to "take one for the team and eat
major crow about all the assurances he'd given the press."
Of course, if they continue to avoid asking him about it, he may not
even have to do that.
As the group started walking to the next seminar, my mind turned back
to the Gergen-Warren conversation.
Near the end, a woman stood up, identified herself as Jewish and asked
Warren if she would be saved.
He told her that he believed that you can only be saved through Jesus
Christ.
I only wished I had stood up and asked Warren:
What will it take for Karl Rove to be saved?
__________________________________________________________
A trip to Gitmo.
Harry
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08 Jul 2005 09:09:50 PM |
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| User: "Fred" |
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| Title: Re: Awww...Does The Mean Old Conservative Have The Buttboys SissyCrying??? LOL |
08 Jul 2005 09:16:45 PM |
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ÞǼº^|^ee-NN-^|^eeº¼ÇÞ wrote:
OptionARMpopeye leaves, you enter.
Coincidence? I think not
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"Fascism should rightly be called corporatism as it is a merger of state
and corporate power" -- Benito Mussolini
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| User: "Joe Lunchpail" |
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| Title: Re: Right Wing ***** media bows to its master, Karl Rove |
08 Jul 2005 09:05:09 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.alternet.org/story/23435/
Is Rove Going Down?
By Arianna Huffington, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted July 8, 2005.
Arianna Huffington, Puuuuullllleeeeeaaaasssseeeee....
Puffpost.com
We're talking about a hypocritical woman who complained about U.S.
dependence on foreign oil as she flew around the country in a private
jet! We're talking about a woman who 'taxied' from airport to venue in
a stretch limo. We're talking about a woman with five homes, none
touted for their energy efficiency.
You liberals are amusing!
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: Right Wing ***** media bows to its master, Karl Rove |
08 Jul 2005 09:59:50 PM |
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"Joe Lunchpail" <joelunchpail2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120874709.217954.122310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.alternet.org/story/23435/
Is Rove Going Down?
By Arianna Huffington, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted July 8, 2005.
Arianna Huffington, Puuuuullllleeeeeaaaasssseeeee....
Puffpost.com
We're talking about a hypocritical woman who complained about U.S.
dependence on foreign oil as she flew around the country in a private
jet! We're talking about a woman who 'taxied' from airport to venue in
a stretch limo. We're talking about a woman with five homes, none
touted for their energy efficiency.
You liberals are amusing!
Translation: Pissbucket's got nothing.
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| User: "Tazmanian Devil" |
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| Title: Re: Right Wing ***** media bows to its master, Karl Rove |
31 Jul 2005 02:57:23 PM |
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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 01:35:50 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
Hey harry, care to explain just HOW you can say "Right Wing Media"
when over 94% of the reporters say they are democrat-over 72% of the
Editors say they are Democrat-and over88% of the combined both say
they have never voted for anything BUT a Democrat and never will
according to none other then the New York Times and the LA Times...two
of the biggest "liberal left wing" papers in the Country as well as
TIME Warner-USA Today?
Maybe it is time for you to stop stealing others works and drop this
lie about the media being a "right wing" media when according to their
won words, they are as leftist and liberal as they come.
Or are you calling the people you steal your posts from liars? And if
so...what does that make you?
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| User: "Chance Hopkins" |
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| Title: Re: Right Wing ***** media bows to its master, Karl Rove |
31 Jul 2005 03:47:41 PM |
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"Tazmanian Devil" <myob@biteme.com> wrote in message
news:rmaqe11k9m7ca7nbilhoi8qppk5lcm95s5@4ax.com...
over 94% of the reporters say they are democrat-over 72% of the
Editors say they are Democrat-and over88% of the combined both say
they have never voted for anything BUT a Democrat and never will
according to none other then the New York Times and the LA Times...
Just goes to show you what knowledge will do.
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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14 Aug 2005 02:27:24 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:57:23 -0400, Tazmanian Devil <myob@biteme.com>
wrote:
Hey harry, care to explain just HOW you can say "Right Wing Media"
when over 94% of the reporters say they are democrat-over 72% of the
Editors say they are Democrat-and over88% of the combined both say
they have never voted for anything BUT a Democrat and never will
according to none other then the New York Times and the LA Times...two
of the biggest "liberal left wing" papers in the Country as well as
TIME Warner-USA Today?
Liberal bias in the media?
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm
Myth:
The U.S. has a liberal media.
Fact:
The media are being increasingly monopolized by parent corporations
with pro-corporate or conservative agendas.
Summary:
The U.S. media are rapidly being monopolized by a dwindling number of
parent corporations, all of whom have conservative economic agendas.
The media are also critically dependent upon corporations for
advertising. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate
crime, as well as pro-labor and pro-consumer issues. Surveys of
journalists show that the majority were personally liberal in the
1980s, but today they are centrists, with more conservatives than
liberals on economic issues. However, no study has proven that they
give their personal bias to the news. On the other hand, the political
spectrum of pundits - who do engage in noisy editorializing - leans
heavily to the right. The most extreme example of this is talk radio,
where liberals are almost nonexistent. The Fairness Doctrine was
designed to prevent one-sided bias in the media by requiring
broadcasters to air opposing views. It once enjoyed the broad support
of both liberals and conservatives. But now that the media have become
increasingly owned and controlled by corporations, conservatives
defiantly oppose the Fairness Doctrine. This is probably the best
proof that the media's bias is conservative, not liberal.
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Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
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The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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