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"grinder" |
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08 Mar 2007 09:44:52 AM |
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Right wing logic - isn't. |
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
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| User: "Joe S." |
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| Title: Re: Right wing logic - isn't. |
08 Mar 2007 11:04:19 AM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Just wait -- before today is out, the rightwingers will be telling us that
Bill Clinton caused Libby to lie.
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| User: "TRON" |
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| Title: Re: Right wing logic - isn't. |
08 Mar 2007 04:13:36 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Let's drag your ***** into court grinder, and then have you recall every
conversation you had 4 years ago or more, and not perjure yourself! That
New York Times Reporter and even Tim Russert were found lying on the witness
stand; they in effect committed perjury, and yet you don't see Fitzgerald
hot on their *****! Joe Wilson lied, and smeared the President, and Libby had
to pay the price - http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540,
http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/ .
It's maddening when we can't fight a war on terror without tying our hands
behind our backs because of assholes in the Democratic party who are playing
with our security just like they did before 9/11! To
them its all a big game, and I don't trust them one damn bit! -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hzH6X8g34Y They knew why they supported
going into Iraq as part of the War on Terror, and now they are letting Joe
Wilson's lie live so they could grab power, just like they did this past
fall, because gullible people in the middle (the so called centrists and
moderates) have no stomach nor honor when it comes to safeguarding Democracy
in the world! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WLqIlt39ws
Tell me grinder, how are the Democrats going to address this reality -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ObL2Clh8g, and this reality -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvpKQTjAb2U, when it comes to the war on
terror? When you fail to study and learn from History grinder -
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/index.html - you are doomed
to never learn its lessons grinder! -
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/
TRON
http://www.tron-sector.com/
PS>Even after the war had started in 1939, a war Borah had repeatedly
stated in public would never happen and that he curiously labeled as
"phony" after its inception, the Senator lamented, "Lord, if I could
only have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided." -
http://www.kevincmurphy.com/williamborah4.html
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Right wing logic - isn't. |
08 Mar 2007 05:38:30 PM |
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"TRON" <tron@gwbasic.ibm> wrote in message
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a
court of law.
Let's drag your ***** into court grinder, and then have you recall every
conversation you had 4 years ago or more, and not perjure yourself! That
New York Times Reporter and even Tim Russert were found lying on the
witness stand; they in effect committed perjury, and yet you don't see
Fitzgerald hot on their *****! Joe Wilson lied, and smeared the President,
and Libby had to pay the price -
Wilson lied, Fitzgerald lied, Russert lied, New York reporter lied.
Libby told the truth, junior told the truth, Rove told the truth, Cheney
told the truth.
Pass the kool aid skippy. You are bogarting the glass.
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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09 Mar 2007 03:23:49 PM |
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"TRON" <tron@gwbasic.ibm> wrote in message
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:UbWHh.10434$Jl.843@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a
court of law.
Let's drag your ***** into court grinder, and then have you recall every
conversation you had 4 years ago or more, and not perjure yourself! That
New York Times Reporter and even Tim Russert were found lying on the
witness stand; they in effect committed perjury, and yet you don't see
Fitzgerald hot on their *****! Joe Wilson lied, and smeared the President,
and Libby had to pay the price -
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540,
http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/ .
You fruitcakes were ready to screw over Bill Clinton over Whitewater which
was more than four years old when you brought it up. So when's the limit?
Or is the limit whether the defendant is repug or not?
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| User: "grinder" |
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14 Mar 2007 09:23:00 AM |
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"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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"TRON" <tron@gwbasic.ibm> wrote in message
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't.
BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to
lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a
court of law.
Let's drag your ***** into court grinder, and then have you recall every
conversation you had 4 years ago or more, and not perjure yourself! That
New York Times Reporter and even Tim Russert were found lying on the
witness stand; they in effect committed perjury, and yet you don't see
Fitzgerald hot on their *****! Joe Wilson lied, and smeared the President,
and Libby had to pay the price -
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540,
http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/ .
You fruitcakes were ready to screw over Bill Clinton over Whitewater which
was more than four years old when you brought it up. So when's the limit?
Or is the limit whether the defendant is repug or not?
Don't forget the travel-gate "non scandal."
or
The investigation that Clinton was involved in drug trafficking at Mena
airport during the Contra war.
or
Investigation in Vince Foster's death where Starr tried to implicate
Clinton.
or
The list Linda Tripp gave to Judicial Watch chairman Larry Klayman in
December, 1998. Trip testified that a hand-written list of people who were
involved with Clinton and who had suffered mysterious deaths ended up on her
office chair in the White House.
It's laughable.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Right wing logic - isn't. |
09 Mar 2007 04:00:51 PM |
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"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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You fruitcakes were ready to screw over Bill Clinton over Whitewater which
was more than four years old when you brought it up. So when's the limit?
Or is the limit whether the defendant is repug or not?
Party affiliation certainly does sem to be *your* criteria. That, of
course, makes you a hypocrite, but that's not news.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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09 Mar 2007 03:59:31 PM |
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"TRON" <tron@gwbasic.ibm> wrote in message
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a
court of law.
Let's drag your ***** into court grinder, and then have you recall every
conversation you had 4 years ago or more, and not perjure yourself! That
New York Times Reporter and even Tim Russert were found lying on the
witness stand; they in effect committed perjury, and yet you don't see
Fitzgerald hot on their *****! Joe Wilson lied, and smeared the President,
and Libby had to pay the price -
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540,
http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/ .
Okay, so grinder is a lying adolescent jerk. That's not news. Nonetheless,
I didn't see in your link where "That New York Times Reporter and even Tim
Russert were found lying on the witness stand; they in effect committed
perjury...." While I would agree that Joe Wilson is an opportunist lying
*****, and I might agree that Libby is the fall guy, I have not seen a
shred of credible evidence to support your claim that everybody and their
brother committed perjury in order to get Libby. It just doesn't wash.
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| User: "What Me Worry?" |
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| Title: Re: Right wing logic - isn't. |
08 Mar 2007 09:57:38 AM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:UbWHh.10434$Jl.843@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Translation: "Libby is one of ours. Clinton is an evil liberal.
Waaaaaaa."
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| User: "Guy" |
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08 Mar 2007 11:22:34 AM |
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AWWW COME ON!
EVERYBODY DOES IT!
Guy
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:UbWHh.10434$Jl.843@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
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| User: "udarrell" |
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08 Mar 2007 02:19:21 PM |
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Guy wrote:
AWWW COME ON!
EVERYBODY DOES IT! Guy
However, what they lied about has caused over a half a million Iraqi
deaths & permanent maimings and well over 3,000 american troop death,
plus many thousands with horrible injuries. Bill Clinton did NOT make a
false statement when he said, "I did not have sexual INTERCOURSE with
that woman.
Additionally, in Clinton's case it was an adult consensual private
affair, that was none of anyone else's business, but Hillary's!
- udarrell
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THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
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| User: "Rudy Canoza" |
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08 Mar 2007 02:25:16 PM |
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udarrell wrote:
Guy wrote:
AWWW COME ON!
EVERYBODY DOES IT! Guy
However, what they lied about has caused over a half a million Iraqi
deaths & permanent maimings and well over 3,000 american troop death,
plus many thousands with horrible injuries. Bill Clinton did NOT make a
false statement when he said, "I did not have sexual INTERCOURSE with
that woman.
Clinton didn't say that, shitworm. He said "I did not
have sexual relations with that woman [embarrassing
pause] Miss Lewinsky."
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| User: "Godzilla Pimp" |
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09 Mar 2007 11:21:07 AM |
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Left wing logic: Communism will work, eventually.
GP
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| User: "peter350" |
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09 Mar 2007 11:38:44 AM |
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Left wing logic: Communism will work, eventually.
But GP doesn't the left-wing hate the Jews more than the Right-wing?
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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08 Mar 2007 05:34:40 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:44:52 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Kate O'Brien's logic is faulty, and, if I may be so bold, so is all
who agree with her on this particular point.
You seem to be suggesting that since her logic is faulty and she's of
the right wing, there for all those of the same political perspective
also suffer from faulty logic.
I submit that your logic is faulty.
Bill Smith
"Never attribute to malice that which can be
explained by stupidity."
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| User: "grinder" |
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08 Mar 2007 05:36:01 PM |
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"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:44:52 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Kate O'Brien's logic is faulty, and, if I may be so bold, so is all
who agree with her on this particular point.
You seem to be suggesting that since her logic is faulty and she's of
the right wing, there for all those of the same political perspective
also suffer from faulty logic.
I submit that your logic is faulty.
Bill Smith
"Never attribute to malice that which can be
explained by stupidity."
Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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08 Mar 2007 05:53:27 PM |
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Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
I get it now, If three people have faulty logic, then everyone who
shares the same political perspective also does. Just trying to figure
out the rules. Thank you.
What the original poster stated in his subject header is prejudicial;
a judgment that all who share Ms O'Brien's political perspective must
have faulty logic because she does. Just because you came up with two
more examples does nothing to change this.
Bill Smith
"Never attribute to malice that which can be
explained by stupidity."
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| User: "grinder" |
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09 Mar 2007 09:17:21 AM |
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"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
I get it now, If three people have faulty logic, then everyone who
shares the same political perspective also does. Just trying to figure
out the rules. Thank you.
My sympathetic little Billy, there are no rules little man. The problem is
you equate "three people" to the National Review, Wall Street Journal and
Faux News.
They are entities little Billy that represent main stream conservative
views. They are not people.
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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09 Mar 2007 10:27:26 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:17:21 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:kp71v21mqqhae47nqpphfo4qnukfs4he8l@4ax.com...
Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
I get it now, If three people have faulty logic, then everyone who
shares the same political perspective also does. Just trying to figure
out the rules. Thank you.
My sympathetic little Billy, there are no rules little man. The problem is
you equate "three people" to the National Review, Wall Street Journal and
Faux News.
They are entities little Billy that represent main stream conservative
views. They are not people.
A conservative monolith marching in lock step is it then? I'm sorry, I
know several conservatives that think that the idea that Libby should
get off because Clinton did is balderdash. You'd be surprised at the
number of conservatives I know that are embarrassed by the Bush regime
and all of it's works.
Bill Smith
***** catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas
habebunt
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| User: "grinder" |
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09 Mar 2007 01:23:43 PM |
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"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:17:21 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:kp71v21mqqhae47nqpphfo4qnukfs4he8l@4ax.com...
Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National
Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
I get it now, If three people have faulty logic, then everyone who
shares the same political perspective also does. Just trying to figure
out the rules. Thank you.
My sympathetic little Billy, there are no rules little man. The problem
is
you equate "three people" to the National Review, Wall Street Journal and
Faux News.
They are entities little Billy that represent main stream conservative
views. They are not people.
A conservative monolith marching in lock step is it then? I'm sorry, I
know several conservatives that think that the idea that Libby should
get off because Clinton did is balderdash.
And I know thousands of conservatives who believe Clinton should have been
kicked out of office and Libby should be pardoned.
You'd be surprised at the
number of conservatives I know that are embarrassed by the Bush regime
and all of it's works.
They elected him. Maybe their embarassment is from realizing they were
duped.
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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09 Mar 2007 01:46:45 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:23:43 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:i823v29beeoppj614hcumjpn1fjtgks632@4ax.com...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:17:21 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:kp71v21mqqhae47nqpphfo4qnukfs4he8l@4ax.com...
Her logic is not hers alone. It was also expressed in the National
Review
and Wall Street Journal.
You of course are free to come to your own conclusions.
I get it now, If three people have faulty logic, then everyone who
shares the same political perspective also does. Just trying to figure
out the rules. Thank you.
My sympathetic little Billy, there are no rules little man. The problem
is
you equate "three people" to the National Review, Wall Street Journal and
Faux News.
They are entities little Billy that represent main stream conservative
views. They are not people.
A conservative monolith marching in lock step is it then? I'm sorry, I
know several conservatives that think that the idea that Libby should
get off because Clinton did is balderdash.
And I know thousands of conservatives who believe Clinton should have been
kicked out of office and Libby should be pardoned.
I don't believe you know "thousands of people" of any particular
political stripe. Any time someone makes the broad general statement
like "The left believes this", "The right believes that" , is usually
full of it.
You'd be surprised at the
number of conservatives I know that are embarrassed by the Bush regime
and all of it's works.
They elected him. Maybe their embarassment is from realizing they were
duped.
Yep.
Bush's miserable approval ratings can't be just Democrats.
Bill Smith
***** catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas
habebunt
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| User: "udarrell" |
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08 Mar 2007 02:10:32 PM |
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grinder wrote:
This is the logic of the right. Try to make sense of it - I can't. BTW,
she works for the National Review.
According to right wing Kate O'Beirne on 3/07 Hardball:
Clinton should have been removed from office because he admitted to lying
(about having sex with a consenting adult) but Libby should be pardoned
because he never admitted he was lying and was merely convicted in a court
of law.
Their logic is wholly illogical.
Brain dead psychopaths.
- udarrell
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WISDOM PRINCIPLED EMPOWERMENT COMMUNICATIONS -
THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
http://www.udarrell.com/
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