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"Harry Hope" |
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30 Nov 2007 08:29:29 AM |
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Right Wing shrieking whiners squeal about their "debate". |
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
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30 Nov 2007 09:27:21 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
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30 Nov 2007 06:30:50 PM |
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
The party is getting ready to tear itself apart.
Both Romney and Giuliani are airing negative tv ads, each attacking the
other.
After they rip each other apart, and ole late to the Ball Fred pisses off a
few more people there will be no viable candidates left.
Larry
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01 Dec 2007 05:37:27 AM |
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There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
The party is getting ready to tear itself apart.
Both Romney and Giuliani are airing negative tv ads, each attacking the
other.
After they rip each other apart, and ole late to the Ball Fred pisses off
a
few more people there will be no viable candidates left.
Here's the ticket: Romney/Huckabee. Romney will be the last of the wingnuts
standing, vulnerable on everything from his flipflopping to his poor record
as a one term governor who will lose his own state. Huckabee will be
selected to "innoculate" him among the evangelicals who could never vote for
a Mormon. It won't work.
Democrats will win their first landslide election since '64. Not even Karl
Rove attempting to rig the voting will work this time.
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04 Dec 2007 10:31:53 AM |
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On Dec 1, 6:37 am, "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kim...@rcn.com> wrote:
Democrats will win their first landslide election since '64. Not even Karl
Rove attempting to rig the voting will work this time.
Would that be LBJ and his Great Society?
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/HealthCare.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Poverty.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/ExampleTOC.shtml
and more
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. ----
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml
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On Nov 30, 10:27 am, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1...
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.- Hide quoted text -
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Just nominate Hitlery and you'll see how wrong you are.
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30 Nov 2007 09:53:26 AM |
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Sid9 wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
Boo hoo hoo, someone finally asked those Repugs a few "tough" questions.
I guessing that someone at CNN will be fired or maybe found dead in a
ditch over that.
The bigger story is that 5 million people tuned in to watch candidates
from a party that has over 60 million. And let us face one fact, those
tuning in to the Repug debate probably weren't Repugs. I don't know what
it is, but it's so fascinating to me to watch the further destruction of
America by these neo-liberal corporate whores--like being tied to the
tracks, you tend look at the approaching train.
So, no one cares (5 million is the same number of people who came out on
one day to protest to stop the "war as the last option" war in 2002, and
according to FoxNews, 5 million equals no one. As for these candidates,
no wonder there is still a Repug Party, none of their members listen to
what their candidates say.
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30 Nov 2007 11:50:38 AM |
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Marinus van der Lubbe wrote:
Sid9 wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
Boo hoo hoo, someone finally asked those Repugs a few "tough" questions.
I guessing that someone at CNN will be fired or maybe found dead in a
ditch over that.
The bigger story is that 5 million people tuned in to watch candidates
from a party that has over 60 million. And let us face one fact, those
tuning in to the Repug debate probably weren't Repugs. I don't know what
it is, but it's so fascinating to me to watch the further destruction of
America by these neo-liberal corporate whores--like being tied to the
tracks, you tend look at the approaching train.
So, no one cares (5 million is the same number of people who came out on
one day to protest to stop the "war as the last option" war in 2002, and
according to FoxNews, 5 million equals no one. As for these candidates,
no wonder there is still a Repug Party, none of their members listen to
what their candidates say.
"If you can't face a few Democrats asking a couple of hard questions,
how can we expect you to face AL Quada?"
-Kieth Olbermann
....Right back at 'em.
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"The Pretzel" <pretzel@chokeonit.org> wrote in message
news:47504d6f$0$15325$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Marinus van der Lubbe wrote:
Sid9 wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1,6572347.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
There were no winners in that debate.
Not one of them can unite the Republican party.
Boo hoo hoo, someone finally asked those Repugs a few "tough" questions.
I guessing that someone at CNN will be fired or maybe found dead in a
ditch over that.
The bigger story is that 5 million people tuned in to watch candidates
from a party that has over 60 million. And let us face one fact, those
tuning in to the Repug debate probably weren't Repugs. I don't know what
it is, but it's so fascinating to me to watch the further destruction of
America by these neo-liberal corporate whores--like being tied to the
tracks, you tend look at the approaching train.
So, no one cares (5 million is the same number of people who came out on
one day to protest to stop the "war as the last option" war in 2002, and
according to FoxNews, 5 million equals no one. As for these candidates,
no wonder there is still a Repug Party, none of their members listen to
what their candidates say.
"If you can't face a few Democrats asking a couple of hard questions, how
can we expect you to face AL Quada?"
-Kieth Olbermann
...Right back at 'em.
The Republican candidates
are obvious failures such that
no RRR poster here has
declared a winner.
Instead, to cover this flop
they attack the sponsor
of the debate.
Not one of them is in a
position to unify the Republican
party
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On Nov 30, 9:29 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times, 11/30/07:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1...
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
lol, this from a supporter of the party that ran like scared school
girls from the very idea of having a debate on Fox News. Keep up the
good work, hypocrite.
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30 Nov 2007 12:08:01 PM |
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<toastmilque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:82963083-afbb-4838-a838-243339ff08b5@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 30, 9:29 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From The Los Angeles Times,
11/30/07:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-youtube30nov30,1...
The right views YouTube questioners, cries foul
Democratic partisans were allowed to put Republican hopefuls on the
spot by CNN, Internet talkers say.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Conservative Internet commentators were buzzing Thursday with
accusations that producers had skewed the CNN-YouTube presidential
debate by allowing Democratic partisans to pose tough questions to the
Republican contenders.
Several bloggers said CNN had betrayed a liberal bias by selecting
questions designed to put the eight presidential candidates on the
defensive.
But executives at the cable-TV network said they were proud of
Wednesday night's debate and had simply chosen 33 questions -- from
nearly 5,000 submitted by videotape -- that would prompt a spirited
and substantive discussion.
A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN and
YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
conservative perspective.
At least two of the citizen-interrogators had clear GOP leanings.
"We were looking for people who were interested enough in the process
to ask a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political director, said
Thursday.
"We didn't inquire about people's ideological beliefs, and that wasn't
relevant. . . . We were looking for questions that would make for an
interesting debate."
Feist said that the high number of viewers who watched the two-hour
session was proof that the network and the video- sharing service
YouTube had achieved that goal.
Nearly 5 million people tuned in, a record audience for cable
television coverage of a primary debate, CNN said.
Controversy over the content of video questions began almost as soon
as the broadcast ended, when Republican former Education Secretary
William J. Bennett said on CNN that one of the questioners had ties to
the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, who is gay, had asked the candidates
why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the
military.
Kerr is a member of a steering committee for Clinton on gay and
lesbian issues.
Although the retired military man and Clinton's camp said the
Democratic candidate had nothing to do with the question, CNN
apologized.
David Bohrman, executive producer of the debate, said the network
wanted to avoid "gotcha" questions from clear Democratic partisans and
would not have allowed the query if it had known of Kerr's ties to the
Clinton campaign.
But several Internet commentators said the cable-TV network should
have screened out Democratic partisans, who they said "hijacked" the
Republican forum.
In postings that popped up throughout the day Thursday, they said
that:
A Texas woman identified only as "Journey," who asked if women should
be punished for having abortions, had appeared in another YouTube
video wearing a "John Edwards '08" T-shirt; a man asking a question
during the debate about gay rights had also appeared on a social
networking site as a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), and a
Manhattan Beach man -- while tasting an ear of corn and asking a tough
question about farm subsidies -- had once worked as a summer intern
for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice).
Jay Tea was one of several to complain, writing at the blog Wizbang:
"Those were good, solid questions. But CNN, by playing by completely
contradictory standards for its questioners at debates, betrays its
bias: the Democrats get to stack their questions to make their
candidates look good; the Republicans find themselves having to squirm
and evade, or give concrete answers that won't make some people very
happy."
But, CNN's Feist said, conservative commentators did not complain when
questioners who shared their political ideology had videos aired
during the Democratic forum in July.
During that session, one video questioner asked the candidates to
choose between raising taxes or cutting benefits in order to save
Social Security.
Another demanded to know whether taxes would rise "like usually they
do when a Democrat comes in office."
A third featured a gun-toting Michigan man, who in an interview
Thursday said he had voted twice for President Bush, who wanted to
know if the Democrats would protect his "baby" -- an assault rifle he
cradled in his arms.
Another questioner from that forum who seemed to have clear
conservative credentials was John McAlpin, a sailor who asked Clinton:
"How do you think you would be taken seriously" by Arab and Muslim
nations that treat women as "second-class citizens"?
McAlpin's MySpace page features pictures of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the
former New York mayor and Republican presidential candidate.
It depicts Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly as a friend, while offering a
caricature of a bearded, turban-wearing "Borat Hussein Obama" -- a
derogatory reference to Obama, the Democratic candidate who as a youth
attended a Muslim school.
CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party or
ideology of the questioners.
______________________________________________
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Harry
lol, this from a supporter of the party that ran like scared school
girls from the very idea of having a debate on Fox News. Keep up the
good work, hypocrite.
There can never be a debate on Fox News, Testes, because Fox News is a
propaganda tool of the Republican Party, not a news organization. A
Democratic debate run by Fox News would like a Democratic debate run by the
RNC. Nice try, though. Continue to not use your brain, Testes.
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