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"Harry Hope" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:01:24 PM |
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Rightards goin' bananas attacking Coretta Scott King's funeral |
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"It was difficult for them personally - with the civil liberties of
both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret
government wiretapping, other surveillance, and as you know,
harassment from the FBI." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
This right-wing snow-job is unmitigated *****.
People got up at Coretta Scott King's funeral and honored her life and
work.
How is it "political" to reference the very things she spent her life
fighting for?
I'll tell you what's "political."
It's political for the right-wing to make a calculated, cynical
attempt to drag Coretta Scott King, her funeral, and her mourners
through the mud in order to score partisan points.
And it's disgraceful that the media are just delighted to be able to
act - yet again - as a free-flowing conduit for the right-wing talking
points of the day.
"Please Karl, may I have another?"
Just out of curiosity, who were the mourners at this funeral supposed
to be honoring?
Coretta Scott King or George W. Bush?
Because the way the right-wing is banging on about this, you'd think
it was the latter.
I guess the president's policies are now so untouchable that they
can't even be mentioned at the funeral of someone who spent their life
fighting against them.
My advice to George - if he doesn't want to hear what people really
think of him and his policies, he should stay away from public events
and stick to his pre-screened audiences.
________________________________________________________
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
Harry
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| User: "Bob Eldred" |
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08 Feb 2006 07:50:16 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"It was difficult for them personally - with the civil liberties of
both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret
government wiretapping, other surveillance, and as you know,
harassment from the FBI." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
This right-wing snow-job is unmitigated *****.
People got up at Coretta Scott King's funeral and honored her life and
work.
How is it "political" to reference the very things she spent her life
fighting for?
I'll tell you what's "political."
It's political for the right-wing to make a calculated, cynical
attempt to drag Coretta Scott King, her funeral, and her mourners
through the mud in order to score partisan points.
And it's disgraceful that the media are just delighted to be able to
act - yet again - as a free-flowing conduit for the right-wing talking
points of the day.
"Please Karl, may I have another?"
Just out of curiosity, who were the mourners at this funeral supposed
to be honoring?
Coretta Scott King or George W. Bush?
Because the way the right-wing is banging on about this, you'd think
it was the latter.
I guess the president's policies are now so untouchable that they
can't even be mentioned at the funeral of someone who spent their life
fighting against them.
My advice to George - if he doesn't want to hear what people really
think of him and his policies, he should stay away from public events
and stick to his pre-screened audiences.
________________________________________________________
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
Harry
Rightards are upset because they know that what Carter and others said was
true and it hit a nerve, a nerve they don't want exposed. As usual they are
trying to deflect the critisizm. But lets ask why Bush went there in the
first place? His very presence was a political act, trying to act
compasionate with Blacks, so there is very little room to talk about others
acting political at a funeral. But, people arn't buying his Black compasion.
It's a good thing that he heard directly what others think of him and his
Administration. The standing ovation illustrates the discord created by him
and the rightards. Unfortunately for Bush and the repugs, Karl Rove couldn't
hand pick this audience to keep real feelings in check like he does for most
of Bush's appearances. Whenever Bush ventures into a general audience, he
runs a big risk because most people are disgusted with the war, deficits,
Katrina, corruption and all of the rest. Even some enlightened conservatives
are beginning to shy away from him. Fortuantely repug rule is going to come
to an end sooner rather than later.
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| User: "YankFan" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:46:18 PM |
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Bob Eldred wrote:
Rightards are upset because they know that what Carter and others said was
true and it hit a nerve, a nerve they don't want exposed.
I'm pretty sure that that's your delusional brain is talking to you
again. The hypocrites in the left are the ones that exposed themselves,
by using the death of a great human being and using her for their
political game. Not Bush or his party and the press has recognized it
for what it was.
As usual they are trying to deflect the critisizm.
Nah, I beleive the press had it right when they called it a skunk in the
Democratic Party. Clinton did not play their game.
But lets ask why Bush went there in the first place? His very presence
was a political act, trying to act compasionate with Blacks,
Of course, he hates blacks. When he was a boy, he and his friends used
to beat up on little black kids. As a matter of fact maybe he had
something to do with the church burnings down south these couple of
weeks. His motives were to go to that funeral and make fun at all of them.
You people are so fucking absurd that it's pathetically sad. Talk about
reverse discrimination. Listen "Brother", get a mind of your own and
stop listening to these leaders with the fourth grade education.
But, people arn't buying his Black compasion.
It's a good thing that he heard directly what others think of him and his
Administration.
What others? the Rev. who doesn't give one's rat ***** about true religion
and uses his robe for political ***** for the Democratic Party? And
that other fucking poor excuse for a president that needs psychiatric
help. You think that Bush or the Administration or the American people
in general give a ***** of what these delusional scumbags, really think
or say? You are delusional!
The standing ovation illustrates...
That they are lemins and don't have respect or class. Not everybody
stood. Only the ones that have hatred for the Bush Administration and
think that the world still owes them something.
Even some enlightened conservatives are beginning to shy away from him.
Right, and Sharpton will be the next President of the U.S.
Fortuantely repug rule is going to come to an end sooner rather than later.
Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore. Keep listening to that big black
wizard behind that curtain. Maybe it'll come true.
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| User: "robw" |
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10 Feb 2006 10:29:28 PM |
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Please keep believing that.
We love yr stupid.
Where's that African American vote gonna go?
"YankFan" <yankFan@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Bob Eldred wrote:
Rightards are upset because they know that what Carter and others said
was
true and it hit a nerve, a nerve they don't want exposed.
I'm pretty sure that that's your delusional brain is talking to you
again. The hypocrites in the left are the ones that exposed themselves,
by using the death of a great human being and using her for their
political game. Not Bush or his party and the press has recognized it
for what it was.
As usual they are trying to deflect the critisizm.
Nah, I beleive the press had it right when they called it a skunk in the
Democratic Party. Clinton did not play their game.
But lets ask why Bush went there in the first place? His very presence
was a political act, trying to act compasionate with Blacks,
Of course, he hates blacks. When he was a boy, he and his friends used
to beat up on little black kids. As a matter of fact maybe he had
something to do with the church burnings down south these couple of
weeks. His motives were to go to that funeral and make fun at all of them.
You people are so fucking absurd that it's pathetically sad. Talk about
reverse discrimination. Listen "Brother", get a mind of your own and
stop listening to these leaders with the fourth grade education.
But, people arn't buying his Black compasion.
It's a good thing that he heard directly what others think of him and
his
Administration.
What others? the Rev. who doesn't give one's rat ***** about true religion
and uses his robe for political ***** for the Democratic Party? And
that other fucking poor excuse for a president that needs psychiatric
help. You think that Bush or the Administration or the American people
in general give a ***** of what these delusional scumbags, really think
or say? You are delusional!
The standing ovation illustrates...
That they are lemins and don't have respect or class. Not everybody
stood. Only the ones that have hatred for the Bush Administration and
think that the world still owes them something.
Even some enlightened conservatives are beginning to shy away from him.
Right, and Sharpton will be the next President of the U.S.
Fortuantely repug rule is going to come to an end sooner rather than
later.
Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore. Keep listening to that big black
wizard behind that curtain. Maybe it'll come true.
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| User: "Taylor" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:37:31 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"It was difficult for them personally - with the civil liberties of
both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret
government wiretapping, other surveillance, and as you know,
harassment from the FBI." -- Jimmy Carter
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
This right-wing snow-job is unmitigated *****.
People got up at Coretta Scott King's funeral and honored her life and
work.
How is it "political" to reference the very things she spent her life
fighting for?
I'll tell you what's "political."
It's political for the right-wing to make a calculated, cynical
attempt to drag Coretta Scott King, her funeral, and her mourners
through the mud in order to score partisan points.
And it's disgraceful that the media are just delighted to be able to
act - yet again - as a free-flowing conduit for the right-wing talking
points of the day.
"Please Karl, may I have another?"
Just out of curiosity, who were the mourners at this funeral supposed
to be honoring?
Coretta Scott King or George W. Bush?
Because the way the right-wing is banging on about this, you'd think
it was the latter.
I guess the president's policies are now so untouchable that they
can't even be mentioned at the funeral of someone who spent their life
fighting against them.
My advice to George - if he doesn't want to hear what people really
think of him and his policies, he should stay away from public events
and stick to his pre-screened audiences.
________________________________________________________
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
Harry
Shame on the "civil rights leaders" who used the funeral to attack Bush!!!
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08 Feb 2006 06:36:55 PM |
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"Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/
This told me all I needed to know about this article.
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
Harry
No, it's called decorum and honor. Your side doesn't have it Harry.
Shame on the "civil rights leaders" who used the funeral to attack Bush!!!
Thing is Taylor, the democrats lost their sense of shame at the Paul
Wellstone memorail.
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| User: "robw" |
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08 Feb 2006 08:59:42 PM |
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I thought African Americans were all becoming Repubs????
"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/
This told me all I needed to know about this article.
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
Harry
No, it's called decorum and honor. Your side doesn't have it Harry.
Shame on the "civil rights leaders" who used the funeral to attack
Bush!!!
Thing is Taylor, the democrats lost their sense of shame at the Paul
Wellstone memorail.
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| User: "SyVyN11" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:09:33 PM |
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I thought African Americans were all becoming Repubs????
stop being stupid.
oh, sorry, you can't.
This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the board.
Every time you tards open your mouths it gets you in trouble!
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:17:50 PM |
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the board.
All the black voters that I saw at the King funeral gave Carter, the
Clintons, and the Reverend Lowrey a standing ovation.
Somehow they didn't look too bothered to me by the whole proceding.
--
JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "SyVyN11" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:37:06 PM |
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"Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the board.
All the black voters that I saw at the King funeral gave Carter, the
Clintons, and the Reverend Lowrey a standing ovation.
Somehow they didn't look too bothered to me by the whole proceding.
Were those all the blacks in america?
Ever hear of the term 'preaching to the choir'?
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?
Have you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "Dion" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:46:18 PM |
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the
board.
All the black voters that I saw at the King funeral gave Carter, the
Clintons, and the Reverend Lowrey a standing ovation.
Somehow they didn't look too bothered to me by the whole proceding.
Were those all the blacks in america?
Ever hear of the term 'preaching to the choir'?
Exactly!!! It was preaching to the choir... Are you part of Coretta Scott
King's choir? Do you believe in peace, racial harmony and helping the
impoverished?
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
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08 Feb 2006 09:54:02 PM |
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"Dion" <dionnoreturn@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the
board.
All the black voters that I saw at the King funeral gave Carter, the
Clintons, and the Reverend Lowrey a standing ovation.
Somehow they didn't look too bothered to me by the whole proceding.
Were those all the blacks in america?
Ever hear of the term 'preaching to the choir'?
Exactly!!! It was preaching to the choir... Are you part of Coretta Scott
King's choir? Do you believe in peace, racial harmony and helping the
impoverished?
yes, and I am a republican. your point is?
Yet, I have a set of beliefs that are differnt to achive that goal. You
say set asides and rob from the rich and give to the poor. I say increase
opputuinty.
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
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| User: "robw" |
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09 Feb 2006 10:12:28 PM |
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I thought African Americans were all becoming Repubs????
stop being stupid.
oh, sorry, you can't.
This won't also hurt dems with black voters, it will go across the board.
Every time you tards open your mouths it gets you in trouble!
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09 Feb 2006 10:21:39 PM |
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
there are those black voters that are crossing over, not all. The civil
rights pimps depend on the stupidity of those that follow them.
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| User: "Truth Will Set You Free" |
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10 Feb 2006 10:33:15 PM |
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I didn't think there were a whole lot of stupid republicon nazi hillbillies
crossing over
to support civil rights, it's a lie
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
there are those black voters that are crossing over, not all. The
civil
rights pimps depend on the stupidity of those that follow them.
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10 Feb 2006 10:23:29 AM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
there are those black voters that are crossing over, not all. The civil
rights pimps depend on the stupidity of those that follow them.
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| User: "YankFan" |
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10 Feb 2006 12:10:13 AM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
there are those black voters that are crossing over, not all. The civil
rights pimps depend on the stupidity of those that follow them.
Amen to that!
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| User: "robw" |
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10 Feb 2006 10:23:42 PM |
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We were told the "stupid ones" were crossing over.
Guess not.
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I was simply referring to right wing talk show hosts and the like saying
that African Americans were fed up with dems and crossing over.
there are those black voters that are crossing over, not all. The
civil
rights pimps depend on the stupidity of those that follow them.
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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08 Feb 2006 06:45:08 PM |
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"Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote in message
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Shame on the "civil rights leaders" who used the funeral to attack Bush!!!
Why?
It's exactly what King would have wanted, and her family supported.
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| Title: Re: Rightards goin' bananas attacking Coretta Scott King's funeral |
08 Feb 2006 06:52:00 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
True. Nothing wrong with that.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Ah, maybe because the Katrina thing has nothing to do with her funeral?
"the color of their faces"? Weren't any white faces among those who were
devastated? Or was Mr. Carter making this a race issue? Did he use the
race card for a political gain?
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
Absolutely.
So why was it wrong to say this?
He forget to say that it was Robert Kennedy that ordered Hoover for
those wiretaps.
"It was difficult for them personally - with the civil liberties of
both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret
government wiretapping, other surveillance, and as you know,
harassment from the FBI." -- Jimmy Carter
Again. Robert Kennedy ordered it.
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
Has nothing to do with honoring Mrs. King.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
Rev? I have to question that. Reverends, usually have more class and
respect than that.
This right-wing snow-job is unmitigated *****.
You mean the "snow-job" of the left, right?
People got up at Coretta Scott King's funeral and honored her life and
work.
Should have honored her life and work, not to attract the President for
their political gain by using her death. It was a disgrace.
How is it "political" to reference the very things she spent her life
fighting for?
I'll tell you what's "political."
It's political for the right-wing to make a calculated, cynical
attempt to drag Coretta Scott King, her funeral, and her mourners
through the mud in order to score partisan points.
Exactly what the left did at her funeral.
And it's disgraceful that the media are just delighted to be able to
act - yet again - as a free-flowing conduit for the right-wing talking
points of the day.
Right wing media? You can't have it both ways. It was a disgrace what
these idiots did at her funeral. At least Clinton had more class than
these dipshits, that call themselves human beings and friend of a woman
of honor like Mrs. King.
"Please Karl, may I have another?"
Just out of curiosity, who were the mourners at this funeral supposed
to be honoring?
Coretta Scott King or George W. Bush?
Coretta Scott King.
Because the way the right-wing is banging on about this, you'd think
it was the latter.
Only your delusional thinking has brought you to this conclusion.
I guess the president's policies are now so untouchable that they
can't even be mentioned at the funeral of someone who spent their life
fighting against them.
There's a time and place for everything. He just sat there and took it
like the class act that he is. Who were the ones with egg on their
faces? Not the President or the republican Party. Only the idiots from
the far left. I'm so glad that they did it. It shows to the world what a
bunch of classless morons that they are. And they will pay in the next
election. GUARANTEED.
My advice to George - if he doesn't want to hear what people really
think of him and his policies, he should stay away from public events
and stick to his pre-screened audiences.
He came, he sat and showed the class that he has. And the left are
bitching and complaining AGAIN, because they shot themselves in the
foot, ONE MORE TIME! So you and other idiots are pissed because it
didn't go well for you and your party on this one. BAAHH BAAHH, Go and
cry in your pillows. Don't ***** and whine.
________________________________________________________
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
No, when the left have to use the corpse of a great civil rights leader
and use her as a political tool to attack a President in "his last
term". The man is not running for office. Now that's what I call
desperation.
Harry
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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| Title: Re: Rightards goin' bananas attacking Coretta Scott King's funeral |
08 Feb 2006 08:26:02 PM |
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"YankFan" <yankFan@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:QmwGf.6782$Jg.3178@tornado.socal.rr.com...
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
Absolutely.
So why was it wrong to say this?
He forget to say that it was Robert Kennedy that ordered Hoover for those
wiretaps.
Why would he say that? Why would it matter?
Again. Robert Kennedy ordered it.
So what?
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
Has nothing to do with honoring Mrs. King.
Of course it does. That's what happens at funerals - you honor what people
stood for - and what they fought for.
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
Rev? I have to question that. Reverends, usually have more class and
respect than that.
In what way was Reverend Lowrey either disrespectful or lacking in class?
Explain.
Should have honored her life and work, not to attract the President for
their political gain by using her death.
Her life and hard work included being a political activist, speaking truth
to power - and opposing the policies of George W. Bush. Don't like it? Too
fucking bad.
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "robw" |
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| Title: Re: Rightards goin' bananas attacking Coretta Scott King's funeral |
08 Feb 2006 09:03:15 PM |
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We do what we do.
Keep sitting in that computer chair.
We like yr useless.
"YankFan" <yankFan@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:QmwGf.6782$Jg.3178@tornado.socal.rr.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
True. Nothing wrong with that.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Ah, maybe because the Katrina thing has nothing to do with her funeral?
"the color of their faces"? Weren't any white faces among those who were
devastated? Or was Mr. Carter making this a race issue? Did he use the
race card for a political gain?
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
Absolutely.
So why was it wrong to say this?
He forget to say that it was Robert Kennedy that ordered Hoover for
those wiretaps.
"It was difficult for them personally - with the civil liberties of
both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret
government wiretapping, other surveillance, and as you know,
harassment from the FBI." -- Jimmy Carter
Again. Robert Kennedy ordered it.
Coretta Scott King was a vocal opponent of the Iraq War.
Has nothing to do with honoring Mrs. King.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way
afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over
there, but Coretta knew, and we know, that there are weapons of
misdirection right down here. For war, billions more - but no more for
the poor!" -- Rev. Joseph Lowery
Rev? I have to question that. Reverends, usually have more class and
respect than that.
This right-wing snow-job is unmitigated *****.
You mean the "snow-job" of the left, right?
People got up at Coretta Scott King's funeral and honored her life and
work.
Should have honored her life and work, not to attract the President for
their political gain by using her death. It was a disgrace.
How is it "political" to reference the very things she spent her life
fighting for?
I'll tell you what's "political."
It's political for the right-wing to make a calculated, cynical
attempt to drag Coretta Scott King, her funeral, and her mourners
through the mud in order to score partisan points.
Exactly what the left did at her funeral.
And it's disgraceful that the media are just delighted to be able to
act - yet again - as a free-flowing conduit for the right-wing talking
points of the day.
Right wing media? You can't have it both ways. It was a disgrace what
these idiots did at her funeral. At least Clinton had more class than
these dipshits, that call themselves human beings and friend of a woman
of honor like Mrs. King.
"Please Karl, may I have another?"
Just out of curiosity, who were the mourners at this funeral supposed
to be honoring?
Coretta Scott King or George W. Bush?
Coretta Scott King.
Because the way the right-wing is banging on about this, you'd think
it was the latter.
Only your delusional thinking has brought you to this conclusion.
I guess the president's policies are now so untouchable that they
can't even be mentioned at the funeral of someone who spent their life
fighting against them.
There's a time and place for everything. He just sat there and took it
like the class act that he is. Who were the ones with egg on their
faces? Not the President or the republican Party. Only the idiots from
the far left. I'm so glad that they did it. It shows to the world what a
bunch of classless morons that they are. And they will pay in the next
election. GUARANTEED.
My advice to George - if he doesn't want to hear what people really
think of him and his policies, he should stay away from public events
and stick to his pre-screened audiences.
He came, he sat and showed the class that he has. And the left are
bitching and complaining AGAIN, because they shot themselves in the
foot, ONE MORE TIME! So you and other idiots are pissed because it
didn't go well for you and your party on this one. BAAHH BAAHH, Go and
cry in your pillows. Don't ***** and whine.
________________________________________________________
The scandal-ridden rightards are in such deep ***** that they'll lash
out at anything. THAT'S desperation, folks.
No, when the left have to use the corpse of a great civil rights leader
and use her as a political tool to attack a President in "his last
term". The man is not running for office. Now that's what I call
desperation.
Harry
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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| Title: Re: Rightards goin' bananas attacking Coretta Scott King's funeral |
09 Feb 2006 10:51:15 AM |
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YankFan wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Right-wing attacks on Coretta Scott King's funeral are utterly
shameful
by EarlG
Wed Feb 08th 2006
Coretta Scott King was a civil rights leader.
True. Nothing wrong with that.
So why was it wrong to say this?
"The struggle for equal rights is not over. We only have to recall the
color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi,
those who were most devastated by Katrina, to know that there are not
yet equal opportunities for all Americans." -- Jimmy Carter
Ah, maybe because the Katrina thing has nothing to do with her funeral?
"the color of their faces"? Weren't any white faces among those who were
devastated? Or was Mr. Carter making this a race issue? Did he use the
race card for a political gain?
Coretta Scott King's family was spied on by the government.
Absolutely.
So why was it wrong to say this?
He forget to say that it was Robert Kennedy that ordered Hoover for
those wiretaps.
LIE. It was Hoover who requested that Kennedy approve the wiretaps.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-katzenbach16jan16,0,2941426.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
The perils of unchecked power
A former attorney general remembers the bugging of Martin Luther King Jr.
By Nicholas deB. Katzenbach
NICHOLAS DEB. KATZENBACH served in senior Justice Department positions
between 1961 and 1965. He was appointed attorney general by President
Johnson in February 1965 and served until October 1966.
January 16, 2006
THE RECENT controversy over warrantless national security telephone
taps, coupled with Martin Luther King's birthday, remind me of my time
in the Department of Justice in the 1960s. It was a period of turbulent
demonstrations, marches and sit-ins, many of them led by King in support
of the constitutional rights denied by Southern law enforcement to black
citizens. And it was a time of growing animosity between King and J.
Edgar Hoover, who had created the Federal Bureau of Investigation and
led it since 1924. That animosity created a growing problem for Atty.
Gen. Robert Kennedy and those of us on his staff.
Hoover had built a great institution in the FBI, essentially from
nothing. In the public eye it stood for fair and decent law enforcement
— the rule of law — and was a model of integrity and efficiency. Hoover
was a national hero, responsible for putting killers like John Dillinger
behind bars. Kids wore Junior G-Man badges. During World War II, he
fought Nazi spies, and during the Cold War he went after members of the
communist conspiracy.
But Hoover was getting old. He believed the world was questioning and
rejecting the values he held out as fundamental — patriotism, respect
for law and order, sexual mores grounded in marriage and family, the
work ethic. He detested what he saw as a growing culture of
permissiveness, and, as a conservative Southerner, he seriously
questioned the idea of racial equality.
Hoover was troubled by the activities of King. He did not approve of the
constant sit-ins and demonstrations that he saw more as breaking laws
than as a protest against their unfairness. The FBI worked regularly
with local law enforcement, and he wished to preserve that relationship.
What bothered him even more, however, was the frequent public criticism
by King and his followers of the FBI for not protecting demonstrators
from local sheriff's deputies. One did not have to be long in the
Justice Department to learn that to criticize the FBI was an inexcusable
sin in Hoover's eyes.
In October 1963, Hoover requested Atty. Gen. Kennedy to approve a
wiretap on King's telephone. At that time, taps had to be approved by
the attorney general and did not require court approval in the form of a
warrant. The basis for the tap was King's close association with Stanley
Levison, who Hoover said was a prominent member of the Communist Party
with great influence over King in civil rights matters.
Bobby was furious. Hoover's charge that King was a pawn of the
communists could potentially taint the whole movement and bring into
question everything we were doing to vindicate the constitutional rights
of black citizens. It was hard to think of an issue more explosive.
To understand just how explosive, one has to remember that Hoover was
both popular and enormously powerful, with great support in Congress.
Some of that support was based on admiration, some on fear that he had
damaging personal information in his files. Much support came from
conservative Southern Democrats, opposed to King, who chaired virtually
every important congressional committee. Hoover was formally a
subordinate of the attorney general who could, technically, fire and
replace him. That's a big "technically." No attorney general, including
RFK and myself when I succeeded him, could fully exercise control over
him. And none did.
When Hoover asked for the wiretaps, Bobby consulted me (I was then his
deputy) and Burke Marshall, head of the Civil Rights Division. Both of
us agreed to the tap because we believed a refusal would lend credence
to the allegation of communist influence, while permitting the tap, we
hoped, would demonstrate the contrary. I think the decision was the
right one, under the circumstances. But that doesn't mean that the tap
was right. King was suspected of no crime, but the government invaded
his privacy until I removed the tap two years later when I became
attorney general. It also invaded the privacy of every person he talked
to on that phone, not just Levinson.
But what we didn't know during this period was that Hoover was doing a
lot more than tapping King's phones. As King's criticism of the FBI
continued, and as Hoover became more and more convinced there must be
communist influence even though no evidence ever materialized, he
determined to discredit and destroy King. He went further, putting bugs
in King's hotel bedrooms across the country. (He claimed that Atty. Gen.
Herbert Brownell had authorized him to use such listening devices in
cases involving "national security" back in the 1950s, and that he did
not require further permission from the current attorney general, who in
any case had no idea that the FBI was doing it.)
The FBI recorded tapes of King conducting extramarital affairs — and
later had the tapes mailed to King anonymously, in one case actually
encouraging him to commit suicide. Tapes were played for journalists,
and the FBI sought to discredit King with foreign leaders, religious
leaders, White House personnel and members of Congress. The bureau tried
to kill a favorable magazine profile and encouraged one university to
withhold an honorary degree.
I knew none of this until late 1964, when two prominent journalists told
me that a bureau official had approached them and offered to play one of
the salacious hotel bedroom recordings. I confronted the official — one
of Hoover's senior deputies — who categorically denied the allegation. I
flew to President Johnson's Texas ranch and asked him to help put a stop
to it. I think that he did, but such was Hoover's power I cannot be sure
that even the president had the courage to do so.
It was only years later, at the Church Committee hearings held after
Hoover's death, that the full scope of Hoover's anti-King activities
became known. I was — and am — appalled. And sad. This man who was a
national symbol of law and order ended up grossly violating the nation's
trust and respect in the name, he said, of national security. And the
man he attacked so viciously was a great leader who never violated the
law and who helped this nation realize rights guaranteed by the very
Constitution Hoover was sworn to uphold.
All this is ancient history, but it has relevancy today. There is a
growing movement to remove Hoover's name from the FBI building in
Washington, D.C.. I do not think that is the lesson to be learned.
Hoover built the FBI and served for almost 50 years as its leader. His
positive achievements should endure and be recognized. He served with
distinction, but he served too long. Perhaps because of age accompanied
by virtually unchecked power, he lost any sense of proportion in law
enforcement, using his authority in what he thought was a righteous
cause. To my mind, that is the lesson to be learned from Hoover's vendetta.
Today we are again engaged in a debate over wiretapping for reasons of
national security — the same kind of justification Hoover offered when
he wanted to spy on King. The problem, then as now, is not the invasion
of privacy, although that can be a difficulty. But it fades in
significance to the claim of unfettered authority in the name of
"national security." There may be good and sufficient reasons for
invasions of privacy. But those reasons cannot and should not be kept
secret by those charged with enforcing the law. No one should have such
power, and in our constitutional system of checks and balances, no one
legitimately does.
Forcing the executive to explain its reasons for intrusive law
enforcement is essential to maintaining not just privacy but freedom
itself. A congressional committee must exercise oversight. So too must
an independent court because Congress is also subject to possible
political pressure.
Our freedom is too precious, and too much blood has been shed to
preserve it, to entrust it to a single person, however sincere and
however well intentioned.
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