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Robert Kennedy leaves no doubt that Kerry won in Ohio in 2004. |
From The New York Times, 6/12/06:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/opinion/12herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login
Those Pesky Voters
By BOB HERBERT
I remember fielding telephone calls on Election Day 2004 from friends
and colleagues anxious to talk about the exit polls, which seemed to
show that John Kerry was beating George W. Bush and would be the next
president.
As the afternoon faded into evening, reports started coming in that
the Bush camp was dispirited, maybe even despondent, and that the
Kerry crowd was set to celebrate.
(In an article in the current issue of Rolling Stone, Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. writes, "In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed
contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry.")
I was skeptical.
The election was bound to be close, and I knew that Kerry couldn't win
Florida.
I had been monitoring the efforts to suppress Democratic votes there
and had reported on the thuggish practice (by the Jeb Bush
administration) of sending armed state police officers into the homes
of elderly black voters in Orlando to "investigate" allegations of
voter fraud.
As far as I was concerned, Florida was safe for the G.O.P.
That left Ohio.
Republicans, and even a surprising number of Democrats, have been
anxious to leave the 2004 Ohio election debacle behind.
But Mr. Kennedy, in his long, heavily footnoted article ("Was the 2004
Election Stolen?"), leaves no doubt that the democratic process was
trampled and left for dead in the Buckeye State.
Mr. Kerry almost certainly would have won Ohio if all of his votes had
been counted, and if all of the eligible voters who tried to vote for
him had been allowed to cast their ballots.
Mr. Kennedy's article echoed and expanded upon an article in Harper's
("None Dare Call It Stolen," by Mark Crispin Miller) that ran last
summer.
Both articles documented ugly, aggressive and frequently
unconscionable efforts by G.O.P. stalwarts to disenfranchise Democrats
in Ohio, especially those in urban and heavily black areas.
The point man for these efforts was the Ohio secretary of state, J.
Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who was both the chief election
official in the state and co-chairman of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign
in Ohio -- just as Katherine Harris was the chief election official
and co-chairwoman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida in 2000.
No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked.
But whenever it is closely scrutinized, the range of problems and
dirty tricks that come to light is shocking.
What's not shocking, of course, is that every glitch and every foul-up
in Ohio, every arbitrary new rule and regulation, somehow favored Mr.
Bush.
For example, the shortages of voting machines and the long lines with
waits of seven hours or more occurred mostly in urban areas and
discouraged untold numbers of mostly Kerry voters.
Walter Mebane Jr., a professor of government at Cornell University,
did a statistical analysis of the vote in Franklin County, which
includes the city of Columbus.
He told Mr. Kennedy, "The allocation of voting machines in Franklin
County was clearly biased against voters in precincts with high
proportions of African-Americans."
Mr. Mebane told me that he compared the distribution of voting
machines in Ohio's 2004 presidential election with the distribution of
machines for a primary election held the previous spring.
For the primary, he said, "There was no sign of racial bias in the
distribution of the machines."
But for the general election in November, "there was substantial bias,
with fewer voting machines per voter in areas that were heavily
African-American."
Mr. Mebane said he was unable to determine whether the machines were
"intentionally" allocated "to create these biases."
Mr. Kennedy noted that this was just one of an endless sequence of
difficulties confronting Democratic voters that stretched from the
registration process to the post-election recount.
Statistical analyses -- not just of the distribution of voting
machines, but of wildly anomalous voting patterns - have left
nonpartisan experts shaking their heads.
The lesson out of Ohio (and Florida before it) is that the integrity
of the election process needs to be more fiercely defended in the face
of outrageous Republican assaults.
Democrats, the media and ordinary voters need to fight back.
The right to vote is supposed to mean something in the United States.
The idea of going to war overseas in the name of the democratic
process while making a mockery of that process here at home is just
too ludicrous.
_____________________________________________________
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is..or...was..the United States of
America.
Harry
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| User: "Taylor" |
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12 Jun 2006 12:04:05 PM |
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No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked.
That pretty well sums it up.
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| User: "The PretZel" |
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| Title: Re: Robert Kennedy leaves no doubt that Kerry won in Ohio in 2004. |
12 Jun 2006 02:00:43 PM |
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From The New York Times, 6/12/06:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/opinion/12herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login
Those Pesky Voters
By BOB HERBERT
I remember fielding telephone calls on Election Day 2004 from friends
and colleagues anxious to talk about the exit polls, which seemed to
show that John Kerry was beating George W. Bush and would be the next
president.
As the afternoon faded into evening, reports started coming in that
the Bush camp was dispirited, maybe even despondent, and that the
Kerry crowd was set to celebrate.
(In an article in the current issue of Rolling Stone, Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. writes, "In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed
contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry.")
I was skeptical.
The election was bound to be close, and I knew that Kerry couldn't win
Florida.
I had been monitoring the efforts to suppress Democratic votes there
and had reported on the thuggish practice (by the Jeb Bush
administration) of sending armed state police officers into the homes
of elderly black voters in Orlando to "investigate" allegations of
voter fraud.
As far as I was concerned, Florida was safe for the G.O.P.
That left Ohio.
Republicans, and even a surprising number of Democrats, have been
anxious to leave the 2004 Ohio election debacle behind.
But Mr. Kennedy, in his long, heavily footnoted article ("Was the 2004
Election Stolen?"), leaves no doubt that the democratic process was
trampled and left for dead in the Buckeye State.
Mr. Kerry almost certainly would have won Ohio if all of his votes had
been counted, and if all of the eligible voters who tried to vote for
him had been allowed to cast their ballots.
Mr. Kennedy's article echoed and expanded upon an article in Harper's
("None Dare Call It Stolen," by Mark Crispin Miller) that ran last
summer.
Both articles documented ugly, aggressive and frequently
unconscionable efforts by G.O.P. stalwarts to disenfranchise Democrats
in Ohio, especially those in urban and heavily black areas.
The point man for these efforts was the Ohio secretary of state, J.
Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who was both the chief election
official in the state and co-chairman of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign
in Ohio -- just as Katherine Harris was the chief election official
and co-chairwoman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida in 2000.
No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked.
But whenever it is closely scrutinized, the range of problems and
dirty tricks that come to light is shocking.
What's not shocking, of course, is that every glitch and every foul-up
in Ohio, every arbitrary new rule and regulation, somehow favored Mr.
Bush.
For example, the shortages of voting machines and the long lines with
waits of seven hours or more occurred mostly in urban areas and
discouraged untold numbers of mostly Kerry voters.
Walter Mebane Jr., a professor of government at Cornell University,
did a statistical analysis of the vote in Franklin County, which
includes the city of Columbus.
He told Mr. Kennedy, "The allocation of voting machines in Franklin
County was clearly biased against voters in precincts with high
proportions of African-Americans."
Mr. Mebane told me that he compared the distribution of voting
machines in Ohio's 2004 presidential election with the distribution of
machines for a primary election held the previous spring.
For the primary, he said, "There was no sign of racial bias in the
distribution of the machines."
But for the general election in November, "there was substantial bias,
with fewer voting machines per voter in areas that were heavily
African-American."
Mr. Mebane said he was unable to determine whether the machines were
"intentionally" allocated "to create these biases."
Mr. Kennedy noted that this was just one of an endless sequence of
difficulties confronting Democratic voters that stretched from the
registration process to the post-election recount.
Statistical analyses -- not just of the distribution of voting
machines, but of wildly anomalous voting patterns - have left
nonpartisan experts shaking their heads.
The lesson out of Ohio (and Florida before it) is that the integrity
of the election process needs to be more fiercely defended in the face
of outrageous Republican assaults.
Democrats, the media and ordinary voters need to fight back.
The right to vote is supposed to mean something in the United States.
The idea of going to war overseas in the name of the democratic
process while making a mockery of that process here at home is just
too ludicrous.
_____________________________________________________
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is..or...was..the United States of
America.
Harry
--
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their
notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Ringo" |
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| Title: Re: Robert Kennedy leaves no doubt that Kerry won in Ohio in 2004. |
12 Jun 2006 07:05:39 PM |
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The main point is that noone has been able to prove that Ohio was NOT
hijacked. The US election process is bad, even by third world
standards. Thanks to the Republicans. But according to the
indicators, Ohio was hijacked.
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| User: "wolfagain" |
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| Title: Re: Robert Kennedy leaves no doubt that Kerry won in Ohio in 2004. |
12 Jun 2006 07:39:32 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The New York Times, 6/12/06:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/opinion/12herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login
Those Pesky Voters
By BOB HERBERT
I remember fielding telephone calls on Election Day 2004 from friends
and colleagues anxious to talk about the exit polls, which seemed to
show that John Kerry was beating George W. Bush and would be the next
president.
As the afternoon faded into evening, reports started coming in that
the Bush camp was dispirited, maybe even despondent, and that the
Kerry crowd was set to celebrate.
(In an article in the current issue of Rolling Stone, Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. writes, "In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed
contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry.")
I was skeptical.
The election was bound to be close, and I knew that Kerry couldn't win
Florida.
I had been monitoring the efforts to suppress Democratic votes there
and had reported on the thuggish practice (by the Jeb Bush
administration) of sending armed state police officers into the homes
of elderly black voters in Orlando to "investigate" allegations of
voter fraud.
As far as I was concerned, Florida was safe for the G.O.P.
That left Ohio.
Republicans, and even a surprising number of Democrats, have been
anxious to leave the 2004 Ohio election debacle behind.
But Mr. Kennedy, in his long, heavily footnoted article ("Was the 2004
Election Stolen?"), leaves no doubt that the democratic process was
trampled and left for dead in the Buckeye State.
Mr. Kerry almost certainly would have won Ohio if all of his votes had
been counted, and if all of the eligible voters who tried to vote for
him had been allowed to cast their ballots.
Mr. Kennedy's article echoed and expanded upon an article in Harper's
("None Dare Call It Stolen," by Mark Crispin Miller) that ran last
summer.
Both articles documented ugly, aggressive and frequently
unconscionable efforts by G.O.P. stalwarts to disenfranchise Democrats
in Ohio, especially those in urban and heavily black areas.
The point man for these efforts was the Ohio secretary of state, J.
Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who was both the chief election
official in the state and co-chairman of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign
in Ohio -- just as Katherine Harris was the chief election official
and co-chairwoman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida in 2000.
No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked.
But whenever it is closely scrutinized, the range of problems and
dirty tricks that come to light is shocking.
What's not shocking, of course, is that every glitch and every foul-up
in Ohio, every arbitrary new rule and regulation, somehow favored Mr.
Bush.
For example, the shortages of voting machines and the long lines with
waits of seven hours or more occurred mostly in urban areas and
discouraged untold numbers of mostly Kerry voters.
Walter Mebane Jr., a professor of government at Cornell University,
did a statistical analysis of the vote in Franklin County, which
includes the city of Columbus.
He told Mr. Kennedy, "The allocation of voting machines in Franklin
County was clearly biased against voters in precincts with high
proportions of African-Americans."
Mr. Mebane told me that he compared the distribution of voting
machines in Ohio's 2004 presidential election with the distribution of
machines for a primary election held the previous spring.
For the primary, he said, "There was no sign of racial bias in the
distribution of the machines."
But for the general election in November, "there was substantial bias,
with fewer voting machines per voter in areas that were heavily
African-American."
Mr. Mebane said he was unable to determine whether the machines were
"intentionally" allocated "to create these biases."
Mr. Kennedy noted that this was just one of an endless sequence of
difficulties confronting Democratic voters that stretched from the
registration process to the post-election recount.
Statistical analyses -- not just of the distribution of voting
machines, but of wildly anomalous voting patterns - have left
nonpartisan experts shaking their heads.
The lesson out of Ohio (and Florida before it) is that the integrity
of the election process needs to be more fiercely defended in the face
of outrageous Republican assaults.
Democrats, the media and ordinary voters need to fight back.
We ARE fighting back! Against liberals who can't accept REALITY! You
LOST! Get over it.
The right to vote is supposed to mean something in the United States.
The idea of going to war overseas in the name of the democratic
process while making a mockery of that process here at home is just
too ludicrous.
_____________________________________________________
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is..or...was..the United States of
America.
Harry
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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12 Jun 2006 11:49:47 AM |
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"wolfagain" <wolf@provide.net> wrote in message
news:1150115972.479167.326810@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The New York Times, 6/12/06:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/opinion/12herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login
Those Pesky Voters
By BOB HERBERT
I remember fielding telephone calls on Election Day 2004 from friends
and colleagues anxious to talk about the exit polls, which seemed to
show that John Kerry was beating George W. Bush and would be the next
president.
As the afternoon faded into evening, reports started coming in that
the Bush camp was dispirited, maybe even despondent, and that the
Kerry crowd was set to celebrate.
(In an article in the current issue of Rolling Stone, Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. writes, "In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed
contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry.")
I was skeptical.
The election was bound to be close, and I knew that Kerry couldn't win
Florida.
I had been monitoring the efforts to suppress Democratic votes there
and had reported on the thuggish practice (by the Jeb Bush
administration) of sending armed state police officers into the homes
of elderly black voters in Orlando to "investigate" allegations of
voter fraud.
As far as I was concerned, Florida was safe for the G.O.P.
That left Ohio.
Republicans, and even a surprising number of Democrats, have been
anxious to leave the 2004 Ohio election debacle behind.
But Mr. Kennedy, in his long, heavily footnoted article ("Was the 2004
Election Stolen?"), leaves no doubt that the democratic process was
trampled and left for dead in the Buckeye State.
Mr. Kerry almost certainly would have won Ohio if all of his votes had
been counted, and if all of the eligible voters who tried to vote for
him had been allowed to cast their ballots.
Mr. Kennedy's article echoed and expanded upon an article in Harper's
("None Dare Call It Stolen," by Mark Crispin Miller) that ran last
summer.
Both articles documented ugly, aggressive and frequently
unconscionable efforts by G.O.P. stalwarts to disenfranchise Democrats
in Ohio, especially those in urban and heavily black areas.
The point man for these efforts was the Ohio secretary of state, J.
Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who was both the chief election
official in the state and co-chairman of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign
in Ohio -- just as Katherine Harris was the chief election official
and co-chairwoman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida in 2000.
No one has been able to prove that the election in Ohio was hijacked.
But whenever it is closely scrutinized, the range of problems and
dirty tricks that come to light is shocking.
What's not shocking, of course, is that every glitch and every foul-up
in Ohio, every arbitrary new rule and regulation, somehow favored Mr.
Bush.
For example, the shortages of voting machines and the long lines with
waits of seven hours or more occurred mostly in urban areas and
discouraged untold numbers of mostly Kerry voters.
Walter Mebane Jr., a professor of government at Cornell University,
did a statistical analysis of the vote in Franklin County, which
includes the city of Columbus.
He told Mr. Kennedy, "The allocation of voting machines in Franklin
County was clearly biased against voters in precincts with high
proportions of African-Americans."
Mr. Mebane told me that he compared the distribution of voting
machines in Ohio's 2004 presidential election with the distribution of
machines for a primary election held the previous spring.
For the primary, he said, "There was no sign of racial bias in the
distribution of the machines."
But for the general election in November, "there was substantial bias,
with fewer voting machines per voter in areas that were heavily
African-American."
Mr. Mebane said he was unable to determine whether the machines were
"intentionally" allocated "to create these biases."
Mr. Kennedy noted that this was just one of an endless sequence of
difficulties confronting Democratic voters that stretched from the
registration process to the post-election recount.
Statistical analyses -- not just of the distribution of voting
machines, but of wildly anomalous voting patterns - have left
nonpartisan experts shaking their heads.
The lesson out of Ohio (and Florida before it) is that the integrity
of the election process needs to be more fiercely defended in the face
of outrageous Republican assaults.
Democrats, the media and ordinary voters need to fight back.
We ARE fighting back! Against liberals who can't accept REALITY! You
LOST! Get over it.
As usual, the republican has nothing.
The right to vote is supposed to mean something in the United States.
The idea of going to war overseas in the name of the democratic
process while making a mockery of that process here at home is just
too ludicrous.
_____________________________________________________
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is..or...was..the United States of
America.
Harry
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