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"Harry Hope" |
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Rove told facing perjury charge; will resign if indicted |
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html
Sunday October 16, 2005
Rove told facing perjury charge;
Will resign if indicted
RAW STORY
KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED
IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME
New York --
Karl Rove has a plan, as always.
Even before testifying last week for the fourth time before a grand
jury probing the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity,
Rove--who as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff runs a vast
swath of the West Wing--and others at the White House had concluded he
would immediately resign or possibly go on unpaid leave if indicted,
several legal and Administration sources familiar with the thinking
tell TIME.
The same scenario would apply to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the Vice
President’s chief of staff, who also faces a possible indictment.
A former White House official says Rove’s break with Bush would have
to be clean--no "giving advice from the sidelines"--for the sake of
the Administration, TIME’s Viveca Novak and Mike Allen report in this
week’s issue of TIME (on newsstands Monday, Oct. 17).
Severing his White House ties would allow Rove to fight aggressively
"any bull_ charges," says a source close to Rove, like allegations
that he was part of a broad conspiracy to discredit Plame’s husband,
Joseph Wilson.
Rove’s defense: whatever he did fell far short of that.
Fitzgerald appears to be seriously weighing a perjury charge for
Rove’s failure to tell grand jurors that he talked to TIME
correspondent Matt Cooper about Plame, according to a person close to
Rove.
Rove corrected himself in a later grand jury session.
If charged with perjury, he will maintain his line:
he simply didn’t recall the conversation with Cooper, and told
Fitzgerald as soon as he did, TIME reports.
These strategies are being shaped absent any real knowledge of what
Fitzgerald might do before the grand jury’s dissolution on Oct. 28.
"If he played his cards any closer to the vest they’d be in his
underwear," says a lawyer who’s a friend of the White House.
But Fitzgerald’s intentions aren’t the only mystery.
Another character in the drama remains unnamed:
the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first
piece naming Plame.
Fitzgerald, says a lawyer in the case, "knows who it is--and it’s not
someone at the White House," TIME reports.
_________________________________________________________
Sounds like Turd Blossom's hanging by his thumbs.
Harry
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16 Oct 2005 07:12:50 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6i15l11p2jnf051hke1n0fa3a2sv1mtjb1@4ax.com...
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html
Sunday October 16, 2005
Rove told facing perjury charge;
Will resign if indicted
RAW STORY
KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED
IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME
New York --
Karl Rove has a plan, as always.
Even before testifying last week for the fourth time before a grand
jury probing the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity,
Rove--who as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff runs a vast
swath of the West Wing--and others at the White House had concluded he
would immediately resign or possibly go on unpaid leave if indicted,
several legal and Administration sources familiar with the thinking
tell TIME.
The same scenario would apply to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the Vice
President's chief of staff, who also faces a possible indictment.
A former White House official says Rove's break with Bush would have
to be clean--no "giving advice from the sidelines"--for the sake of
the Administration, TIME's Viveca Novak and Mike Allen report in this
week's issue of TIME (on newsstands Monday, Oct. 17).
Severing his White House ties would allow Rove to fight aggressively
"any bull_ charges," says a source close to Rove, like allegations
that he was part of a broad conspiracy to discredit Plame's husband,
Joseph Wilson.
Rove's defense: whatever he did fell far short of that.
Fitzgerald appears to be seriously weighing a perjury charge for
Rove's failure to tell grand jurors that he talked to TIME
correspondent Matt Cooper about Plame, according to a person close to
Rove.
Rove corrected himself in a later grand jury session.
If charged with perjury, he will maintain his line:
he simply didn't recall the conversation with Cooper, and told
Fitzgerald as soon as he did, TIME reports.
These strategies are being shaped absent any real knowledge of what
Fitzgerald might do before the grand jury's dissolution on Oct. 28.
"If he played his cards any closer to the vest they'd be in his
underwear," says a lawyer who's a friend of the White House.
But Fitzgerald's intentions aren't the only mystery.
Another character in the drama remains unnamed:
the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first
piece naming Plame.
Fitzgerald, says a lawyer in the case, "knows who it is--and it's not
someone at the White House," TIME reports.
_________________________________________________________
Sounds like Turd Blossom's hanging by his thumbs.
Harry
The projected scenario would be both libby and roves resignations on buhs's
desk in the event of any kind of indicment, to save bush the embarrasment of
having to fire them. Of course, it still may run deeper into the
administration. Mr. Fitzgerald has taken testimony of over 50 whithouse
staffers, including Ari Fleisher, and has interviewed both bush and cheney.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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16 Oct 2005 11:07:37 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html
Sunday October 16, 2005
What I don't like about all this is the complicity of TIME and
their own lack of admitting culpability. The Bush regime is
nothing but traitors -- we all know this and TIME's exitors all
knew it. But their editors went along with the treason any way.
TIME needs to publish front-page above-the-fold admission of
guilt -- for the treason as well as the endless lies repeated by
their staff coming from the fascist regime. TIME needs to come
clean if they're to be taken seriously in the future.
Rove told facing perjury charge;
Will resign if indicted
RAW STORY
KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED
IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME
New York --
Karl Rove has a plan, as always.
Even before testifying last week for the fourth time before a grand
jury probing the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity,
Rove--who as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff runs a vast
swath of the West Wing--and others at the White House had concluded he
would immediately resign or possibly go on unpaid leave if indicted,
several legal and Administration sources familiar with the thinking
tell TIME.
The same scenario would apply to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the Vice
President’s chief of staff, who also faces a possible indictment.
A former White House official says Rove’s break with Bush would have
to be clean--no "giving advice from the sidelines"--for the sake of
the Administration, TIME’s Viveca Novak and Mike Allen report in this
week’s issue of TIME (on newsstands Monday, Oct. 17).
Severing his White House ties would allow Rove to fight aggressively
"any bull_ charges," says a source close to Rove, like allegations
that he was part of a broad conspiracy to discredit Plame’s husband,
Joseph Wilson.
Rove’s defense: whatever he did fell far short of that.
Fitzgerald appears to be seriously weighing a perjury charge for
Rove’s failure to tell grand jurors that he talked to TIME
correspondent Matt Cooper about Plame, according to a person close to
Rove.
Rove corrected himself in a later grand jury session.
If charged with perjury, he will maintain his line:
he simply didn’t recall the conversation with Cooper, and told
Fitzgerald as soon as he did, TIME reports.
These strategies are being shaped absent any real knowledge of what
Fitzgerald might do before the grand jury’s dissolution on Oct. 28.
"If he played his cards any closer to the vest they’d be in his
underwear," says a lawyer who’s a friend of the White House.
But Fitzgerald’s intentions aren’t the only mystery.
Another character in the drama remains unnamed:
the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first
piece naming Plame.
Fitzgerald, says a lawyer in the case, "knows who it is--and it’s not
someone at the White House," TIME reports.
_________________________________________________________
Sounds like Turd Blossom's hanging by his thumbs.
Harry
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Bush is a Christian. Get over it!
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| User: "Tempest" |
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16 Oct 2005 01:24:24 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html
Sunday October 16, 2005
Rove told facing perjury charge;
Will resign if indicted
RAW STORY
KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED
IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME
New York --
Karl Rove has a plan, as always.
Even before testifying last week for the fourth time before a grand
jury probing the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity,
Rove--who as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff runs a vast
swath of the West Wing--and others at the White House had concluded he
would immediately resign or possibly go on unpaid leave if indicted,
several legal and Administration sources familiar with the thinking
tell TIME.
Tom DeLay should resign from Congress until his indictments are cleared up.
The same scenario would apply to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the Vice
President’s chief of staff, who also faces a possible indictment.
A former White House official says Rove’s break with Bush would have
to be clean--no "giving advice from the sidelines"--for the sake of
the Administration, TIME’s Viveca Novak and Mike Allen report in this
week’s issue of TIME (on newsstands Monday, Oct. 17).
Severing his White House ties would allow Rove to fight aggressively
"any bull_ charges," says a source close to Rove, like allegations
that he was part of a broad conspiracy to discredit Plame’s husband,
Joseph Wilson.
Rove’s defense: whatever he did fell far short of that.
Fitzgerald appears to be seriously weighing a perjury charge for
Rove’s failure to tell grand jurors that he talked to TIME
correspondent Matt Cooper about Plame, according to a person close to
Rove.
Rove corrected himself in a later grand jury session.
If charged with perjury, he will maintain his line:
he simply didn’t recall the conversation with Cooper, and told
Fitzgerald as soon as he did, TIME reports.
These strategies are being shaped absent any real knowledge of what
Fitzgerald might do before the grand jury’s dissolution on Oct. 28.
"If he played his cards any closer to the vest they’d be in his
underwear," says a lawyer who’s a friend of the White House.
But Fitzgerald’s intentions aren’t the only mystery.
Another character in the drama remains unnamed:
the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first
piece naming Plame.
Fitzgerald, says a lawyer in the case, "knows who it is--and it’s not
someone at the White House," TIME reports.
_________________________________________________________
Sounds like Turd Blossom's hanging by his thumbs.
Harry
--
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
- Susan B. Anthony, 1896
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| User: "A Veteran for Peace" |
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17 Oct 2005 10:54:49 AM |
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In article <43529CA6.5060208@hotmail.com>,
Tempest <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html
Sunday October 16, 2005
Rove told facing perjury charge;
Will resign if indicted
RAW STORY
KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED
IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME
New York --
Karl Rove has a plan, as always.
Even before testifying last week for the fourth time before a grand
jury probing the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame¹s identity,
Rove--who as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff runs a vast
swath of the West Wing--and others at the White House had concluded he
would immediately resign or possibly go on unpaid leave if indicted,
several legal and Administration sources familiar with the thinking
tell TIME.
Tom DeLay should resign from Congress until his indictments are cleared up.
The same scenario would apply to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the Vice
President¹s chief of staff, who also faces a possible indictment.
A former White House official says Rove¹s break with Bush would have
to be clean--no "giving advice from the sidelines"--for the sake of
the Administration, TIME¹s Viveca Novak and Mike Allen report in this
week¹s issue of TIME (on newsstands Monday, Oct. 17).
Severing his White House ties would allow Rove to fight aggressively
"any bull_ charges," says a source close to Rove, like allegations
that he was part of a broad conspiracy to discredit Plame¹s husband,
Joseph Wilson.
Rove¹s defense: whatever he did fell far short of that.
Fitzgerald appears to be seriously weighing a perjury charge for
Rove¹s failure to tell grand jurors that he talked to TIME
correspondent Matt Cooper about Plame, according to a person close to
Rove.
Rove corrected himself in a later grand jury session.
If charged with perjury, he will maintain his line:
he simply didn¹t recall the conversation with Cooper, and told
Fitzgerald as soon as he did, TIME reports.
These strategies are being shaped absent any real knowledge of what
Fitzgerald might do before the grand jury¹s dissolution on Oct. 28.
"If he played his cards any closer to the vest they¹d be in his
underwear," says a lawyer who¹s a friend of the White House.
But Fitzgerald¹s intentions aren¹t the only mystery.
Another character in the drama remains unnamed:
the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first
piece naming Plame.
Fitzgerald, says a lawyer in the case, "knows who it is--and it¹s not
someone at the White House," TIME reports.
_________________________________________________________
Sounds like Turd Blossom's hanging by his thumbs.
Harry
Harry, Is that a "Cheshire Cat" grin?
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Impeach Bush ! a noble cause
Operation Iraqi Liberation = O.I.L.
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| User: "Williams" |
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16 Oct 2005 12:12:32 PM |
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no biggie - it's not the title or the location of his desk... he could
still run the show by phone, just like what tom delay is doing right
now
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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16 Oct 2005 02:22:48 PM |
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"Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1129482752.781391.145830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
no biggie - it's not the title or the location of his desk... he could
still run the show by phone, just like what tom delay is doing right
now
1) From a jail cell?
2) Aint it kind of weird to acknowledge that your President needs someone to
run him?
3) Rove is currently in place and the WH is in total disarray - how the F is
Rove going to run anything from a telephone? You ever run any business or
organization? There's a big fucking difference between giving orders and
actually being around to make sure the orders are carried out.
Pretending there is no problem isn't a strategy.
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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16 Oct 2005 04:47:21 PM |
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1129482752.781391.145830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
no biggie - it's not the title or the location of his desk... he could
still run the show by phone, just like what tom delay is doing right
now
1) From a jail cell?
Sure, why not? Criminal empires have been run from jail before.
2) Aint it kind of weird to acknowledge that your President needs someone
to run him?
Wierd, no. It has been known for literally decades, going back to his failed
business ventures, that Bush cn;t think himself out of a paper bag.
Sad, yes that so mny people fall for image over substance.
3) Rove is currently in place and the WH is in total disarray - how the F
is Rove going to run anything from a telephone? You ever run any business or
organization? There's a big fucking difference between giving orders and
actually being around to make sure the orders are carried out.
Rove has enforcers. He is hte idea guy and the fixer
Now, if Delay and Frist go to jail Bush _may_ lose control of congress, but
Blunt will probably keep the Houe under the party's thumb.
Business and lobbyists only need phone calls and promises to continue their
support. Keep the tax giveaways coming and they will fall in line, no matter
whee the legislation is drafted.
Pretending there is no problem isn't a strategy.
It is to repuglicons. Deny deny deny until you eaither weaar out your
opponent, win _more_ power and can "kill" our opponent, or you finally work
out a deal to retire in glory.
Larry
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