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User: "VTR"
Date: 21 Jan 2008 01:15:16 PM
Object: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul
Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul
By Dana Gabriel
What do Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul have in common? Neither has won a primary or caucus, the
difference being that Giuliani was expected to challenge and even win the Republican nomination
while Paul has been labeled as a fringe candidate with no chance of winning. With a second
place finish in Nevada, Paul is building momentum for Florida and Super Tuesday. Giuliani is
going in the opposite direction and is staking his whole campaign on winning Florida, but he is
fading fast. As a result of his poor showings, his national support is also eroding and Florida
is shaping up o be a dog fight. After Nevada and South Carolina, Duncan Hunter has decided to
drop out of the race. On February fifth, Super Tuesday will further make or break the
candidates, which could see the field dwindle down even more, and this could very well include
Giuliani.
Giuliani's poor showings in the early contests are not because of a lack of trying. As a
result, other candidates have been given more exposure and gained momentum. His strategy of
seemingly abandoning early states and shifting money and resources to focus on Florida was done
out of pure desperation. Florida has become a must win and could further cement his
presidential campaign as one of the biggest busts in American political history. It could also
turn out to be pure genius if he is able to win in Florida, and it would catapult him back into
the race. There are reports that some of his staff are working without pay, and that his
campaign is cash-strapped as contributions have all but dried up. In a last ditch effort to
salvage his campaign and his pride, he is now proclaiming himself to be an agent of change, and
is further attacking his opponents. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
In Iowa, Giuliani finished with 4% of the vote, well behind Paul's 10%. In fact Paul spanked
him with a 2-1 ratio in votes, even though Giuliani had made more visits to the state. In New
Hampshire, it appears as if much of Giuliani's support went McCain's way. Giuliani spent almost
as much money as the winner. He once again failed to reach double digits and finished with 9%,
edging out Paul by only one percent. Then it was on to Michigan, which was another Giuliani
disaster, whereas Paul garnered almost more votes than Thompson and Giuliani combined. Nevada
saw Paul pull off a dramatic second place finish, picking up 13% of the vote as opposed to
Giuliani's measly 4%. South Carolina turned into another embarrassing performance, and another
loss to Paul. Giuliani's campaign is in free-fall mode, but is still banking on Florida and
other voter-rich delegate states. A win in Florida would elevate and rejuvenate his campaign,
but a loss would see it crash and burn and come to a screeching halt.
A turning point in the Giuliani campaign might have been his ill-fated attack on Paul over
foreign policy in one of the earlier debates. Paul stated that American foreign policy was a
major contributing factor leading to 9/11, but he never suggested that we invited the attacks.
Giuliani urged Paul to retract his statement and claimed he had never heard of such a theory.
He later stated that they hate us because of our freedom and our values. Paul did not back
down, and questioned if Giuliani had ever read the 9/11 commission report, later holding a
press conference where former CIA officials further backed up his statements. He issued a list
of books for Giuliani to read on the subject. At the time, many pundits believed that Giuliani
had delivered a knockout blow, and Mr. 9/11 looked strong and presidential. It may have been
the highlight of his campaign, but a turning point in a negative way. It exposed Giuliani's
lack of foreign policy knowledge and elevated Paul's status.
After more than six years, it appears as if Giuliani's opportunity to use the attacks and the
whole fear of terrorism are gone. In fact, 9/11 has become his can of worms, and many accuse
him of covering up the toxic dust scandal at ground zero. Others are angry for his decision to
put firefighters and other victim's remains in landfills. Almost everywhere he goes, he is
dogged by those who blame him for some of the firefighters deaths. There can be little doubt
that Giuliani has used the 9/11 tragedies for personal profit and to launch his presidential
bid. It is becoming obvious to many that he is no longer a viable candidate.
In less then a month, Giuliani has gone from Republican front runner to a second tier
candidate. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Like those who had earlier written off
McCain, can Giuliani rekindle the magic? Anything less than a win in Florida would spell
certain doom for his campaign. If Paul doesn't win the nomination, his revolution will have
still succeeded, and we can forever look back with a smile on how he whooped Giuliani.
.

User: "Timothy Crowley"

Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul 22 Jan 2008 07:58:56 AM
On Jan 21, 11:15=A0am, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:

while Paul has been labeled as a fringe candidate with no chance of winnin=

g.
hint: this is because he is a fringe candidate with no chance of
winning.
groups trimmed - spamming sucks.
.
User: "fatboy"

Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul 22 Jan 2008 10:05:32 AM
Timothy Crowley wrote:

hint: this is because he is a fringe candidate with no chance of
winning.

spoken like a true idiot.
.


User: "William Flax"

Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul 21 Jan 2008 03:53:39 PM
See Below:
"VTR" <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nrqdnXrMRo6kcgnanZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@comcast.com...

Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul

By Dana Gabriel

What do Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul have in common? Neither has won a

primary or caucus, the

difference being that Giuliani was expected to challenge and even win the

Republican nomination

while Paul has been labeled as a fringe candidate with no chance of

winning. With a second

place finish in Nevada, Paul is building momentum for Florida and Super

Tuesday. Giuliani is

going in the opposite direction and is staking his whole campaign on

winning Florida, but he is

fading fast. As a result of his poor showings, his national support is

also eroding and Florida

is shaping up o be a dog fight. After Nevada and South Carolina, Duncan

Hunter has decided to

drop out of the race. On February fifth, Super Tuesday will further make

or break the

candidates, which could see the field dwindle down even more, and this

could very well include

Giuliani.


Giuliani's poor showings in the early contests are not because of a lack

of trying. As a

result, other candidates have been given more exposure and gained

momentum. His strategy of

seemingly abandoning early states and shifting money and resources to

focus on Florida was done

out of pure desperation. Florida has become a must win and could further

cement his

presidential campaign as one of the biggest busts in American political

history. It could also

turn out to be pure genius if he is able to win in Florida, and it would

catapult him back into

the race. There are reports that some of his staff are working without

pay, and that his

campaign is cash-strapped as contributions have all but dried up. In a

last ditch effort to

salvage his campaign and his pride, he is now proclaiming himself to be an

agent of change, and

is further attacking his opponents. Desperate times call for desperate

measures.



In Iowa, Giuliani finished with 4% of the vote, well behind Paul's 10%. In

fact Paul spanked

him with a 2-1 ratio in votes, even though Giuliani had made more visits

to the state. In New

Hampshire, it appears as if much of Giuliani's support went McCain's way.

Giuliani spent almost

as much money as the winner. He once again failed to reach double digits

and finished with 9%,

edging out Paul by only one percent. Then it was on to Michigan, which was

another Giuliani

disaster, whereas Paul garnered almost more votes than Thompson and

Giuliani combined. Nevada

saw Paul pull off a dramatic second place finish, picking up 13% of the

vote as opposed to

Giuliani's measly 4%. South Carolina turned into another embarrassing

performance, and another

loss to Paul. Giuliani's campaign is in free-fall mode, but is still

banking on Florida and

other voter-rich delegate states. A win in Florida would elevate and

rejuvenate his campaign,

but a loss would see it crash and burn and come to a screeching halt.


A turning point in the Giuliani campaign might have been his ill-fated

attack on Paul over

foreign policy in one of the earlier debates. Paul stated that American

foreign policy was a

major contributing factor leading to 9/11, but he never suggested that we

invited the attacks.

Giuliani urged Paul to retract his statement and claimed he had never

heard of such a theory.

He later stated that they hate us because of our freedom and our values.

Paul did not back

down, and questioned if Giuliani had ever read the 9/11 commission report,

later holding a

press conference where former CIA officials further backed up his

statements. He issued a list

of books for Giuliani to read on the subject. At the time, many pundits

believed that Giuliani

had delivered a knockout blow, and Mr. 9/11 looked strong and

presidential. It may have been

the highlight of his campaign, but a turning point in a negative way. It

exposed Giuliani's

lack of foreign policy knowledge and elevated Paul's status.


After more than six years, it appears as if Giuliani's opportunity to use

the attacks and the

whole fear of terrorism are gone. In fact, 9/11 has become his can of

worms, and many accuse

him of covering up the toxic dust scandal at ground zero. Others are angry

for his decision to

put firefighters and other victim's remains in landfills. Almost

everywhere he goes, he is

dogged by those who blame him for some of the firefighters deaths. There

can be little doubt

that Giuliani has used the 9/11 tragedies for personal profit and to

launch his presidential

bid. It is becoming obvious to many that he is no longer a viable

candidate.



In less then a month, Giuliani has gone from Republican front runner to a

second tier

candidate. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Like those who had

earlier written off

McCain, can Giuliani rekindle the magic? Anything less than a win in

Florida would spell

certain doom for his campaign. If Paul doesn't win the nomination, his

revolution will have

still succeeded, and we can forever look back with a smile on how he

whooped Giuliani.


Frankly, I think that Giuliani's decline started with his semi-hysterical,
drama queen attack on Ron Paul in one of the first two debates. Paul was
trying to discuss how the Terrorists recruit, and Giuliani wanted none of
it. Displaying the sort of hysteria that a kid sometimes shows after he
gets whipped in a playground fight, Giuliani turned off a lot of people;
who, while they may not be willing to vote for Ron Paul yet, still
recognized that Giuliani did not have the moral fiber to be President.
.
User: "Veteran"

Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul 22 Jan 2008 07:29:27 AM
In article <Dv8lj.39$xq2.11@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
"William Flax" <krtq73aa@prodigy.net> wrote:

See Below:
"VTR" <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nrqdnXrMRo6kcgnanZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@comcast.com...

Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul

By Dana Gabriel

What do Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul have in common? Neither has won a

primary or caucus, the

difference being that Giuliani was expected to challenge and even win the

Republican nomination

while Paul has been labeled as a fringe candidate with no chance of

winning. With a second

place finish in Nevada, Paul is building momentum for Florida and Super

Tuesday. Giuliani is

going in the opposite direction and is staking his whole campaign on

winning Florida, but he is

fading fast. As a result of his poor showings, his national support is

also eroding and Florida

is shaping up o be a dog fight. After Nevada and South Carolina, Duncan

Hunter has decided to

drop out of the race. On February fifth, Super Tuesday will further make

or break the

candidates, which could see the field dwindle down even more, and this

could very well include

Giuliani.


Giuliani's poor showings in the early contests are not because of a lack

of trying. As a

result, other candidates have been given more exposure and gained

momentum. His strategy of

seemingly abandoning early states and shifting money and resources to

focus on Florida was done

out of pure desperation. Florida has become a must win and could further

cement his

presidential campaign as one of the biggest busts in American political

history. It could also

turn out to be pure genius if he is able to win in Florida, and it would

catapult him back into

the race. There are reports that some of his staff are working without

pay, and that his

campaign is cash-strapped as contributions have all but dried up. In a

last ditch effort to

salvage his campaign and his pride, he is now proclaiming himself to be an

agent of change, and

is further attacking his opponents. Desperate times call for desperate

measures.



In Iowa, Giuliani finished with 4% of the vote, well behind Paul's 10%. In

fact Paul spanked

him with a 2-1 ratio in votes, even though Giuliani had made more visits

to the state. In New

Hampshire, it appears as if much of Giuliani's support went McCain's way.

Giuliani spent almost

as much money as the winner. He once again failed to reach double digits

and finished with 9%,

edging out Paul by only one percent. Then it was on to Michigan, which was

another Giuliani

disaster, whereas Paul garnered almost more votes than Thompson and

Giuliani combined. Nevada

saw Paul pull off a dramatic second place finish, picking up 13% of the

vote as opposed to

Giuliani's measly 4%. South Carolina turned into another embarrassing

performance, and another

loss to Paul. Giuliani's campaign is in free-fall mode, but is still

banking on Florida and

other voter-rich delegate states. A win in Florida would elevate and

rejuvenate his campaign,

but a loss would see it crash and burn and come to a screeching halt.


A turning point in the Giuliani campaign might have been his ill-fated

attack on Paul over

foreign policy in one of the earlier debates. Paul stated that American

foreign policy was a

major contributing factor leading to 9/11, but he never suggested that we

invited the attacks.

Giuliani urged Paul to retract his statement and claimed he had never

heard of such a theory.

He later stated that they hate us because of our freedom and our values.

Paul did not back

down, and questioned if Giuliani had ever read the 9/11 commission report,

later holding a

press conference where former CIA officials further backed up his

statements. He issued a list

of books for Giuliani to read on the subject. At the time, many pundits

believed that Giuliani

had delivered a knockout blow, and Mr. 9/11 looked strong and

presidential. It may have been

the highlight of his campaign, but a turning point in a negative way. It

exposed Giuliani's

lack of foreign policy knowledge and elevated Paul's status.


After more than six years, it appears as if Giuliani's opportunity to use

the attacks and the

whole fear of terrorism are gone. In fact, 9/11 has become his can of

worms, and many accuse

him of covering up the toxic dust scandal at ground zero. Others are angry

for his decision to

put firefighters and other victim's remains in landfills. Almost

everywhere he goes, he is

dogged by those who blame him for some of the firefighters deaths. There

can be little doubt

that Giuliani has used the 9/11 tragedies for personal profit and to

launch his presidential

bid. It is becoming obvious to many that he is no longer a viable

candidate.



In less then a month, Giuliani has gone from Republican front runner to a

second tier

candidate. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Like those who had

earlier written off

McCain, can Giuliani rekindle the magic? Anything less than a win in

Florida would spell

certain doom for his campaign. If Paul doesn't win the nomination, his

revolution will have

still succeeded, and we can forever look back with a smile on how he

whooped Giuliani.


Frankly, I think that Giuliani's decline started with his semi-hysterical,
drama queen attack on Ron Paul in one of the first two debates. Paul was
trying to discuss how the Terrorists recruit, and Giuliani wanted none of
it. Displaying the sort of hysteria that a kid sometimes shows after he
gets whipped in a playground fight, Giuliani turned off a lot of people;
who, while they may not be willing to vote for Ron Paul yet, still
recognized that Giuliani did not have the moral fiber to be President.

and that leaves the GOP with............
nothin'
and here comes Billary.
--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
problems tend to look like nails.
.
User: "fatboy"

Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani's Losing Ways Continue Against Ron Paul 22 Jan 2008 10:10:59 AM
Veteran wrote:

and that leaves the GOP with............
nothin'

idiot
.




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