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"Harry Hope" |
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14 Jun 2005 03:09:06 PM |
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Rumsfeld hates America |
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
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Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
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| User: "XTS" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
14 Jun 2005 04:03:28 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0beua11ocng015v7jm9kid57j7anhltfr1@4ax.com...
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
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Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
He's also a crackpot, crazy old man with a complex for deth, destruction and
lies. But, he's a big cog in the PNAC wheele, so he gets to stay no matter
how many goofs and gaffs. Bush will go before Rummy and Cheney.
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| User: "William Lenz" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
14 Jun 2005 07:38:57 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0beua11ocng015v7jm9kid57j7anhltfr1@4ax.com...
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
And yet though all that we had public elections, we have a constitution
being drafted, public works on line and in some cases above pre-war levels,
Iraqi solders taking the lead, ......the list goes on, amazing, all that
under those conditions.
________________________________________________________
Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
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| User: "XTS" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
14 Jun 2005 08:36:48 PM |
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"William Lenz" <billlenz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0beua11ocng015v7jm9kid57j7anhltfr1@4ax.com...
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
And yet though all that we had public elections, we have a constitution
being drafted, public works on line and in some cases above pre-war
levels,
Iraqi solders taking the lead, ......the list goes on, amazing, all that
under those conditions.
That claim is hot air, ***** and propaganda. Not even good propaganda.
What, are you about 10 years old, or real old and senile? Either way, you
are in a dream world.
How do I know that?
Because you left out the reality and the brutality of the warfare. And
therein lies the truth about war. Not in your bush sanctioned *****.
You say public works are on line, when the watching world, cries out for the
desperate condition the Iraqi's are struggleing through, dying from water
born disease, lack of medical care, starvation and unexpolded cluster
munitions the very streets they have to walk through, and that's the short
list of their hardship created by bush and people like you, who make excuse
as lame as the one you just posted.
They are used to walking past rotting bodies in their streets! Dead bodies
are now the normal everyday street accoutrements.
Is your neighborhood decorated like that? Do you children have to walk past
that to get a bucket of unsanitary water?
Does the smell of death permeate your home, your clothes and linger in your
nostrils till you think it will never fuckin leave.
Do armed foreign occupiers enter you home, and make you and your children
kneel in the mud and blood of the rancid gutters while they berate you and
ransack the little you own. DO THEY GODAMIT?
There is a certain injustice in promoting this brutality, and one day, I
hope you have to suffer as badly as they are for your measure of justice.
The election was meaningless, and saying they are drafting a constittution
is akin to buliding a boat in the dessert. It has nothing to float on
nitwit.
I have an offer for you. Since the Iraqis are having it so easy compliments
of GW Bush, their benevolent liberator, contact any glabal aid organizaion,
and trade your life in America, to send one Iraqi here to take you place.
If you are not willing to do that to prove you ridicuouls point, then take a
back seat to honesty, and shut the ***** up about something you only know
nonsense propaganda about.
You are the reason these people are suffering and our kids are being
slaughtered over. YOU are as responsible as every bullet fired and every
bomb droped in the name of greed.
________________________________________________________
Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
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| User: "William Lenz" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
15 Jun 2005 09:00:14 PM |
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"XTS" <xts@xyz.com> wrote in message
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"William Lenz" <billlenz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BMKre.4436$VK4.1107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0beua11ocng015v7jm9kid57j7anhltfr1@4ax.com...
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
And yet though all that we had public elections, we have a constitution
being drafted, public works on line and in some cases above pre-war
levels,
Iraqi solders taking the lead, ......the list goes on, amazing, all that
under those conditions.
That claim is hot air, ***** and propaganda. Not even good propaganda.
What, are you about 10 years old, or real old and senile? Either way, you
are in a dream world.
How do I know that?
Because you left out the reality and the brutality of the warfare. And
therein lies the truth about war. Not in your bush sanctioned *****.
No I included that reality.
You ability rationally work your way though a simple sentance, puts into
question the rest of your rant.
My time is a little to valuable to waist responding to someone that can't
read what is written.
bill
You say public works are on line, when the watching world, cries out for
the
desperate condition the Iraqi's are struggleing through, dying from water
born disease, lack of medical care, starvation and unexpolded cluster
munitions the very streets they have to walk through, and that's the short
list of their hardship created by bush and people like you, who make
excuse
as lame as the one you just posted.
They are used to walking past rotting bodies in their streets! Dead bodies
are now the normal everyday street accoutrements.
Is your neighborhood decorated like that? Do you children have to walk
past
that to get a bucket of unsanitary water?
Does the smell of death permeate your home, your clothes and linger in
your
nostrils till you think it will never fuckin leave.
Do armed foreign occupiers enter you home, and make you and your children
kneel in the mud and blood of the rancid gutters while they berate you
and
ransack the little you own. DO THEY GODAMIT?
There is a certain injustice in promoting this brutality, and one day, I
hope you have to suffer as badly as they are for your measure of justice.
The election was meaningless, and saying they are drafting a constittution
is akin to buliding a boat in the dessert. It has nothing to float on
nitwit.
I have an offer for you. Since the Iraqis are having it so easy
compliments
of GW Bush, their benevolent liberator, contact any glabal aid
organizaion,
and trade your life in America, to send one Iraqi here to take you place.
If you are not willing to do that to prove you ridicuouls point, then take
a
back seat to honesty, and shut the ***** up about something you only know
nonsense propaganda about.
You are the reason these people are suffering and our kids are being
slaughtered over. YOU are as responsible as every bullet fired and every
bomb droped in the name of greed.
________________________________________________________
Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
14 Jun 2005 08:49:06 PM |
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William Lenz wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0beua11ocng015v7jm9kid57j7anhltfr1@4ax.com...
From The BBC, 6/14/05:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm
Iraq 'no more safe than in 2003'
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has acknowledged that security in
Iraq has not improved statistically since Saddam Hussein's fall in
2003.
And yet though all that we had public elections, we have a constitution
being drafted, public works on line and in some cases above pre-war levels,
Iraqi solders taking the lead, ......the list goes on, amazing, all that
under those conditions.
Man Will you sure are swallowing the Jim Jones Kool-Aid by the Gallon!
You have an election where at least one quarter of the population did
not vote in (BTW the one quarter that is doing the shooting and
bombing)! A constitution that ain't worth the camel ***** it is written
in (so pro Shiite even the Iranians are embarassed)!Public works that
mean if they are lucky somebody stuck in a piece of PVC pipe to dump
the raw sewage into a river (that BTW many people down river use for
drinking water),electricity that is now so rare (even below pre Saddam
levels) most now get it from private generators, (BTW every public
building and Hotel is built like a private fort with its own blast
walls as well).
And oil production is at levels well below that which was pumped under
Saddam in 2002,in fact so much under unused wells (which dry up if not
used) are everywhere, and it is now so dangerous for oil workers new
wells are not being drilled to replace them so production keeps falling
and falling!
A Police force so screwed up the ones that are not outright crimminals
themselves end up paying the rebels money to not shoot at them (and the
ones who do not cannot even protect their own police stations when they
do get attacked)!
An Army which is little more than stage actors dressed in uniforms
(complete with unloaded guns), who when the ***** hits the fan either do
not fight at all or they runaway or worse still they switch over to the
other side and either rat out and spy on American Troops or they turn
their guns on us outright!
Hell Man Don't You Even Know that we are still calling in AIRSTRIKES
(recently using a million dollars worth of bombs and rockets to kill 20
to 40 "SUSPECTED" Gomers armed with $50.00 AK-47s) and using Main
Battle Tanks in the streets of Baghdad (to the point where they are now
so Worn Out they can no longer even be repaired in country and are
shipped home to be completely overhauled... if possible) much like we
did on day 8 of the war, only it is now day 820 and we are still doing
it!
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| User: "Smirks" |
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| Title: Re: Rumsfeld hates America |
14 Jun 2005 03:31:38 PM |
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Harry Hope posted:
Rummy's an America-hating Lieberal.
Harry
well put.
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TheTruthHurts.
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