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User: "ViperSpit"
Date: 11 Sep 2006 01:55:51 PM
Object: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC
Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers representing
Woody, and threatening
ABC.
America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't take the
heat.
Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given the
courtesy to view the film".
THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON
ANYTHING !!!!!!!!
That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !
Spit
September 1, 2006
Dear Bob,
As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path to 9/11,"
which purports to document the events leading up to the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is based on the 9/11 Commission
Report and, as Steve McPherson, President of ABC Entertainment, has said:
"When you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an
important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right."
By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The content of
this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has a duty
to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely. It is unconscionable
to mislead the American public about one of the most horrendous tragedies
our country has ever known.
Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been given
the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling given the
reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh
has been criticized for inaccurately portraying historical events in the
past. In response to previous criticism, he has even said, "I made a
conscious effort not to contact any members of the Administration because I
didn't want them to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been given
the courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have seen the
drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least three
significant factual errors:
-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security Advisor Sandy
Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them to take a shot at bin
Laden. This is complete fiction and the event portrayed never happened.
First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report makes clear that CIA Director
George Tenet had been directed by President Clinton and Mr. Berger to get
bin Laden (p. 199 & 508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy, National Security
Council senior director for counterterrorism from 1999-2001, has said, on
more than one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by
the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and
al-Qaeda."
In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard Clarke, has
said that contrary to the movie:
1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in Afghanistan and
saw bin Laden;
2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the alleged
bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and
3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on the
camp because the information was single-sourced and there would be no way to
know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a cruise missile hit
it.
As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in fact
approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the CIA to capture
bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never able to carry out the
operation and the CIA recommended against inserting Agency personnel to do
it. The Department of Defense, when asked by President Clinton to examine
the use of US troops to capture bin Laden, also recommended against that
option.
-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden without first
alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the objections of the
military. Again, this is false.
-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama insinuates that
President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the impeachment and the Lewinsky
matter to be engaged in pursuing bin Laden. This allegation is absurd and
was directly refuted by ABC News consultant Richard Clarke in his book,
Against All Enemies: "Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best
national security advice without regard to his personal problems. 'Do you
recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give me political advice
or personal advice about the timing. That's my problem. Let me worry about
that.' If we thought this was the best time to hit the Afghan camps, he
would order it and take the heat."
While these are three examples that we are aware of that are utterly
baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the substance and
bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the advertisements we've seen
for this drama suggest that President Clinton was inattentive to the threat
of terrorism or insufficiently intent upon eliminating the threat from bin
Laden. Note that the 9/11 Commission Report says:
-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)
-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about terrorism had
steadily risen." (p. 102)
-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and his
national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they had a special
daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest updates on bin Laden's
reported location." (p. 175)
-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public statements. In
his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington University, he called
terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p. 500)
We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find any basis
for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the drama, which
suggests that the Clinton Administration was inattentive to the threat of a
terrorist strike.
Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the background
and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr. Nowrasteh, which have
been well-documented on numerous conservative blogs and talk shows in his
promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's bias can be seen in an interview he
gave to David Horowitz's conservative magazine Frontpage, during which he
said:
"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response - or lack
of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep
attacking American interests. The worst example is the response to the
October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen where 17 American sailors
were killed. There simply was no response. Nothing."
But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a president
needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and law enforcement
officers have concluded who is responsible." And as the 9/11 Commission
report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not have clear evidence of bin
Laden's connection to the attack on the USS Cole before the end of the
Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193, 195 & executive summary).
While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of historical
fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history that will be
misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your stated obligation to
"get it right," we urge you to do so by not airing this drama until the
egregious factual errors are corrected, an endeavor we could easily assist
you with given the opportunity to view the film.
Sincerely,
Bruce R. Lindsey
Chief Executive Officer
William J. Clinton Foundation
Douglas J. Band
Counselor to President Clinton
Office of William Jefferson Clinton
Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright
Mr. Samuel R. Berger
Mr. Richard A. Clarke
Mr. Stephen McPherson
Mr. George J. Mitchell
Mr. John D. Podesta
Mr. David Westin
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States
.

User: "Bret Cahill"

Title: ABC Wants To Repeal the 22nd Amend. To Find Out If Anyone Can Beat Clinton 10 Sep 2006 05:03:43 PM
ABC wants to repeal the 22nd Amend.
Any rightards on board?
Bret Cahill
.

User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 04:27:58 PM
Are you still worried about a tv show?
Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
I guess we see where that puts you........
heh heh
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee1n83$otp$1@news.datemas.de...

Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers

representing

Woody, and threatening

ABC.

America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't take

the

heat.

Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given the
courtesy to view the film".

THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON

ANYTHING !!!!!!!!

That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !



Spit





September 1, 2006

Dear Bob,

As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path to

9/11,"

which purports to document the events leading up to the terrorist attacks

of

September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is based on the 9/11

Commission

Report and, as Steve McPherson, President of ABC Entertainment, has said:
"When you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an
important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right."

By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The content of
this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has a duty
to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely. It is

unconscionable

to mislead the American public about one of the most horrendous tragedies
our country has ever known.

Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been given
the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling given the
reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh
has been criticized for inaccurately portraying historical events in the
past. In response to previous criticism, he has even said, "I made a
conscious effort not to contact any members of the Administration because

I

didn't want them to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been

given

the courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have seen

the

drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least three
significant factual errors:

-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security Advisor

Sandy

Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them to take a shot at bin
Laden. This is complete fiction and the event portrayed never happened.
First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report makes clear that CIA Director
George Tenet had been directed by President Clinton and Mr. Berger to get
bin Laden (p. 199 & 508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy, National Security
Council senior director for counterterrorism from 1999-2001, has said, on
more than one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by
the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and
al-Qaeda."

In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard Clarke, has
said that contrary to the movie:

1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in Afghanistan and
saw bin Laden;

2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the

alleged

bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and

3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on the
camp because the information was single-sourced and there would be no way

to

know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a cruise missile hit
it.

As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in fact
approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the CIA to

capture

bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never able to carry out the
operation and the CIA recommended against inserting Agency personnel to do
it. The Department of Defense, when asked by President Clinton to examine
the use of US troops to capture bin Laden, also recommended against that
option.

-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden without first
alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the objections of the
military. Again, this is false.

-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama insinuates

that

President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the impeachment and the

Lewinsky

matter to be engaged in pursuing bin Laden. This allegation is absurd and
was directly refuted by ABC News consultant Richard Clarke in his book,
Against All Enemies: "Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best
national security advice without regard to his personal problems. 'Do you
recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give me political

advice

or personal advice about the timing. That's my problem. Let me worry about
that.' If we thought this was the best time to hit the Afghan camps, he
would order it and take the heat."

While these are three examples that we are aware of that are utterly
baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the substance and
bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the advertisements we've

seen

for this drama suggest that President Clinton was inattentive to the

threat

of terrorism or insufficiently intent upon eliminating the threat from bin
Laden. Note that the 9/11 Commission Report says:

-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)

-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about terrorism

had

steadily risen." (p. 102)

-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and his
national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they had a

special

daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest updates on bin Laden's
reported location." (p. 175)

-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public statements.

In

his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington University, he called
terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p. 500)

We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find any

basis

for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the drama, which
suggests that the Clinton Administration was inattentive to the threat of

a

terrorist strike.

Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the

background

and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr. Nowrasteh, which have
been well-documented on numerous conservative blogs and talk shows in his
promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's bias can be seen in an interview

he

gave to David Horowitz's conservative magazine Frontpage, during which he
said:

"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response - or

lack

of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep
attacking American interests. The worst example is the response to the
October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen where 17 American sailors
were killed. There simply was no response. Nothing."

But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a

president

needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and law enforcement
officers have concluded who is responsible." And as the 9/11 Commission
report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not have clear evidence of bin
Laden's connection to the attack on the USS Cole before the end of the
Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193, 195 & executive summary).

While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of

historical

fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history that will be
misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your stated obligation to
"get it right," we urge you to do so by not airing this drama until the
egregious factual errors are corrected, an endeavor we could easily assist
you with given the opportunity to view the film.

Sincerely,

Bruce R. Lindsey

Chief Executive Officer

William J. Clinton Foundation

Douglas J. Band

Counselor to President Clinton

Office of William Jefferson Clinton

Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright

Mr. Samuel R. Berger

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

Mr. Stephen McPherson

Mr. George J. Mitchell

Mr. John D. Podesta

Mr. David Westin

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States


.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 09:57:21 PM
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Are you still worried about a tv show?


Real men are going to be watching football both nights.

You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
with the real world?
Jim E

.
User: "WF Peifer"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 11:19:31 AM
"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
with the real world?

Gee, and all this time I thought you were among the vast majority of
right-wingers who thought liberals all drank white wine, ate brie cheese,
hugged trees and watched PBS.
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 03:40:22 PM
"WF Peifer" <WFPeifer@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
with the real world?


Gee, and all this time I thought you were among the vast majority of
right-wingers who thought liberals all drank white wine, ate brie cheese,
hugged trees and watched PBS.


I never fell for the facade.
Jim E
.


User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 11:02:46 AM
In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: >
: >
: > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: >
: You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
: with the real world?
While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
about tonight though.
--
-------------------
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 03:39:33 PM
"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:s6GdnabTevg7FZjYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...

In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:

: "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: >
: >
: > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: >


: You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
: with the real world?


While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
about tonight though.

--

It's not that bad, and I'm sure the current administrations errors will be
pointed out in the second episode.
No one is blameless in this fiasco.
Jim E
.
User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 06:54:52 PM
And we'll see how much crowing conservatives will be doing tomorrow.
"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:

: "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: >
: >
: > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: >


: You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be

bothered

: with the real world?


While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
about tonight though.

--



It's not that bad, and I'm sure the current administrations errors will be
pointed out in the second episode.
No one is blameless in this fiasco.


Jim E


.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 08:21:03 PM
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And we'll see how much crowing conservatives will be doing tomorrow.

About what you would expect.
I actually think it has been rather non judgmental so far, just informative.
The series of events portrayed were not well known to the general populace.
Jim E
.
User: "WF Peifer"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 09:21:49 PM
"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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About what you would expect.
I actually think it has been rather non judgmental so far, just

informative.

The series of events portrayed were not well known to the general

populace.
Since many of those events never really occurred, it's not surprising that
they weren't well known to the general populace.
.

User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 09:50:06 PM
Why are you watching this?
It's NFL time.
"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And we'll see how much crowing conservatives will be doing tomorrow.



About what you would expect.
I actually think it has been rather non judgmental so far, just

informative.

The series of events portrayed were not well known to the general

populace.



Jim E


.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 12 Sep 2006 12:23:25 AM
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why are you watching this?

It's NFL time.

I don't watch sports.
Life is too short for that waste of time.
Jim E
.
User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 12 Sep 2006 10:42:39 AM
Do you sit down when you *****?
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"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why are you watching this?

It's NFL time.



I don't watch sports.
Life is too short for that waste of time.


Jim E


.





User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 11:54:50 PM
In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:s6GdnabTevg7FZjYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: >
: > : "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: > : news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > : > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: > : >
: >
: >
: > : You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be bothered
: > : with the real world?
: >
: >
: > While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
: > watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
: > about tonight though.
: >
: > --
: >
: It's not that bad, and I'm sure the current administrations errors will be
: pointed out in the second episode.
: No one is blameless in this fiasco.
I didn't say it was bad. It's just that the game was better.
--
-------------------
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 12 Sep 2006 03:04:15 AM
"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:

: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:s6GdnabTevg7FZjYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: >
: > : "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: > : news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > : > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: > : >
: >
: >
: > : You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be
bothered
: > : with the real world?
: >
: >
: > While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
: > watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
: > about tonight though.
: >
: > --
: >


: It's not that bad, and I'm sure the current administrations errors will
be
: pointed out in the second episode.
: No one is blameless in this fiasco.


I didn't say it was bad. It's just that the game was better.
--

A matter of taste, I never liked watching sports of any kind. I've never
lost a dollar on a game, never cared enough to bet.
Jim E
Jim E
.
User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 12 Sep 2006 09:53:17 AM
In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:TfGdnbYqDeAHoJvYnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:s6GdnabTevg7FZjYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Jim E <YD656359@sea.edu> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > : "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
: > : > : news:VYSdna4TNcbAHpnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: > : > : > Are you still worried about a tv show?
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Real men are going to be watching football both nights.
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > : You mean those fat gutted , beer swilling liberals who can't be
: > bothered
: > : > : with the real world?
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > While I flipped channels last night I was far more interested in
: > : > watching the Manning vs. Manning game last night!! Haven't decided
: > : > about tonight though.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : >
: >
: >
: > : It's not that bad, and I'm sure the current administrations errors will
: > be
: > : pointed out in the second episode.
: > : No one is blameless in this fiasco.
: >
: >
: > I didn't say it was bad. It's just that the game was better.
: > --
: >
: A matter of taste, I never liked watching sports of any kind. I've never
: lost a dollar on a game, never cared enough to bet.
We'll just have to leave it as a difference in taste and preference.
--
-------------------
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
.






User: "CoverUp"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 06:04:19 PM
robw wrote:

Are you still worried about a tv show?


Real men are going to be watching football both nights.

I guess we see where that puts you........

This lying moron will not watch either. Yet he will be here with more
repuke crap coming out of his *****. Spit is such an ***** that he sets his
clock ahead so he gets on top longer.
He fakes being his own wife, lies about fighting in the war and degrades
out troops. Spit is a moron and a disgrace to usenet, the internet and
everyone in general.
Spit is nothing but a spineless lowlife *****.


heh heh
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee1n83$otp$1@news.datemas.de...

Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers
representing Woody, and threatening

ABC.

America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't
take the heat.

Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given
the courtesy to view the film".

THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON

ANYTHING !!!!!!!!

That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !



Spit





September 1, 2006

Dear Bob,

As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path
to 9/11," which purports to document the events leading up to the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is
based on the 9/11 Commission Report and, as Steve McPherson,
President of ABC Entertainment, has said: "When you take on the
responsibility of telling the story behind such an important event,
it is absolutely critical that you get it right."

By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The
content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate
and ABC has a duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama
entirely. It is unconscionable to mislead the American public about
one of the most horrendous tragedies our country has ever known.

Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been
given the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling
given the reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's
writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh has been criticized for inaccurately
portraying historical events in the past. In response to previous
criticism, he has even said, "I made a conscious effort not to
contact any members of the Administration because I didn't want them
to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been given the
courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have seen
the drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least
three significant factual errors:

-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security
Advisor Sandy Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them
to take a shot at bin Laden. This is complete fiction and the event
portrayed never happened. First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report
makes clear that CIA Director George Tenet had been directed by
President Clinton and Mr. Berger to get bin Laden (p. 199 &
508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy, National Security Council senior
director for counterterrorism from 1999-2001, has said, on more than
one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by the
CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden
and al-Qaeda."

In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard
Clarke, has said that contrary to the movie:

1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in
Afghanistan and saw bin Laden;

2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the
alleged bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and

3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on
the camp because the information was single-sourced and there would
be no way to know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a
cruise missile hit it.

As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in
fact approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the
CIA to capture bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never
able to carry out the operation and the CIA recommended against
inserting Agency personnel to do it. The Department of Defense, when
asked by President Clinton to examine the use of US troops to
capture bin Laden, also recommended against that option.

-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden
without first alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the
objections of the military. Again, this is false.

-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama
insinuates that President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the
impeachment and the Lewinsky matter to be engaged in pursuing bin
Laden. This allegation is absurd and was directly refuted by ABC
News consultant Richard Clarke in his book, Against All Enemies:
"Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best national
security advice without regard to his personal problems. 'Do you
recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give me political
advice or personal advice about the timing. That's my problem. Let
me worry about that.' If we thought this was the best time to hit
the Afghan camps, he would order it and take the heat."

While these are three examples that we are aware of that are
utterly baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the
substance and bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the
advertisements we've seen for this drama suggest that President
Clinton was inattentive to the threat of terrorism or insufficiently
intent upon eliminating the threat from bin Laden. Note that the
9/11 Commission Report says:

-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)

-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about
terrorism had steadily risen." (p. 102)

-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and
his national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they
had a special daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest
updates on bin Laden's reported location." (p. 175)

-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public
statements. In his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington
University, he called terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p.
500)

We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find
any basis for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the
drama, which suggests that the Clinton Administration was
inattentive to the threat of a terrorist strike.

Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the
background and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr.
Nowrasteh, which have been well-documented on numerous conservative
blogs and talk shows in his promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's
bias can be seen in an interview he gave to David Horowitz's
conservative magazine Frontpage, during which he said:

"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response -
or lack of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden
to keep attacking American interests. The worst example is the
response to the October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen
where 17 American sailors were killed. There simply was no response.
Nothing."

But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a
president needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and
law enforcement officers have concluded who is responsible." And as
the 9/11 Commission report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not
have clear evidence of bin Laden's connection to the attack on the
USS Cole before the end of the Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193,
195 & executive summary).

While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of
historical fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history
that will be misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your
stated obligation to "get it right," we urge you to do so by not
airing this drama until the egregious factual errors are corrected,
an endeavor we could easily assist you with given the opportunity to
view the film.

Sincerely,

Bruce R. Lindsey

Chief Executive Officer

William J. Clinton Foundation

Douglas J. Band

Counselor to President Clinton

Office of William Jefferson Clinton

Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright

Mr. Samuel R. Berger

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

Mr. Stephen McPherson

Mr. George J. Mitchell

Mr. John D. Podesta

Mr. David Westin

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States

.
User: "ViperSpit"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 11 Sep 2006 07:36:22 PM
"CoverUp" <CoverYourAss@xemaps.com> wrote in message
news:UcCdncDumt90BJnYnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

robw wrote:

Are you still worried about a tv show?


Real men are going to be watching football both nights.

I guess we see where that puts you........


This lying moron will not watch either. Yet he will be here with more
repuke crap coming out of his *****. Spit is such an ***** that he sets
his clock ahead so he gets on top longer.

He fakes being his own wife, lies about fighting in the war and degrades
out troops. Spit is a moron and a disgrace to usenet, the internet and
everyone in general.

Spit is nothing but a spineless lowlife *****.



HAH HAH HAH HAH, you fuckin liar Demapuke ! There's been nobody saying that
I'm someone's wife,
or was over in Afghanistan except one of your lying puke liberal buddies on
this newsgroup
posting as me, you dumbfuck (Mr. Multiple Name scared puke pinko)
How many posts are there now from lying pukes saying they're going to watch
football instead
of the mini series, but yet I believe, there is only one game left today
from some no name teams
that are scheduled to play during this time period.
HAH HAH HAH HAH, heh heh.
HAH HAH HAH HAH.
I GURANTEE ALL YOU SPINELESS CURIOUS MONKEYS WILL HAVE YOUR EYES GLUED
TO THE SHOW.
heh heh,
Spit
.
User: "Jim"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 11:43:42 PM
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee2b6k$uh0$1@news.datemas.de...


I GURANTEE ALL YOU SPINELESS CURIOUS MONKEYS WILL HAVE YOUR EYES GLUED
TO THE SHOW.

heh heh,
Spit

Well you'd lose that bet asswipe, but then you should be comfortable being
a loser by now.
Jim C.



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User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 08:08:52 PM
You were the one that said you were going to Iraq and leaving your "wife' to
post.
You.
If you're not watching NFL football insist of a docu-drama???
Do you sit when you *****?
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee2b6k$uh0$1@news.datemas.de...


"CoverUp" <CoverYourAss@xemaps.com> wrote in message
news:UcCdncDumt90BJnYnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

robw wrote:

Are you still worried about a tv show?


Real men are going to be watching football both nights.

I guess we see where that puts you........


This lying moron will not watch either. Yet he will be here with more
repuke crap coming out of his *****. Spit is such an ***** that he sets
his clock ahead so he gets on top longer.

He fakes being his own wife, lies about fighting in the war and degrades
out troops. Spit is a moron and a disgrace to usenet, the internet and
everyone in general.

Spit is nothing but a spineless lowlife *****.




HAH HAH HAH HAH, you fuckin liar Demapuke ! There's been nobody saying

that

I'm someone's wife,
or was over in Afghanistan except one of your lying puke liberal buddies

on

this newsgroup
posting as me, you dumbfuck (Mr. Multiple Name scared puke pinko)

How many posts are there now from lying pukes saying they're going to

watch

football instead
of the mini series, but yet I believe, there is only one game left today
from some no name teams
that are scheduled to play during this time period.


HAH HAH HAH HAH, heh heh.
HAH HAH HAH HAH.

I GURANTEE ALL YOU SPINELESS CURIOUS MONKEYS WILL HAVE YOUR EYES GLUED
TO THE SHOW.

heh heh,
Spit




.
User: "WF Peifer"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 08:53:00 PM
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:O46dnZcVvuKDKpnYnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com...


You were the one that said you were going to Iraq and leaving your "wife'

to

post.

You.

If you're not watching NFL football insist of a docu-drama???

Do you sit when you *****?

Diaper ***** doesn't worry about what position he's in when he pisses. The
diaper catches almost all of it, and the rubber pants, rubber sheet and
rubber room all contribute to him not flooding anyone else out.
.



User: "robw"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 06:44:27 PM
Less than. actually.
"CoverUp" <CoverYourAss@xemaps.com> wrote in message
news:UcCdncDumt90BJnYnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

robw wrote:

Are you still worried about a tv show?


Real men are going to be watching football both nights.

I guess we see where that puts you........


This lying moron will not watch either. Yet he will be here with more
repuke crap coming out of his *****. Spit is such an ***** that he sets

his

clock ahead so he gets on top longer.

He fakes being his own wife, lies about fighting in the war and degrades
out troops. Spit is a moron and a disgrace to usenet, the internet and
everyone in general.

Spit is nothing but a spineless lowlife *****.



heh heh
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee1n83$otp$1@news.datemas.de...

Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers
representing Woody, and threatening

ABC.

America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't
take the heat.

Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given
the courtesy to view the film".

THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON

ANYTHING !!!!!!!!

That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !



Spit





September 1, 2006

Dear Bob,

As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path
to 9/11," which purports to document the events leading up to the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is
based on the 9/11 Commission Report and, as Steve McPherson,
President of ABC Entertainment, has said: "When you take on the
responsibility of telling the story behind such an important event,
it is absolutely critical that you get it right."

By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The
content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate
and ABC has a duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama
entirely. It is unconscionable to mislead the American public about
one of the most horrendous tragedies our country has ever known.

Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been
given the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling
given the reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's
writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh has been criticized for inaccurately
portraying historical events in the past. In response to previous
criticism, he has even said, "I made a conscious effort not to
contact any members of the Administration because I didn't want them
to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been given the
courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have seen
the drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least
three significant factual errors:

-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security
Advisor Sandy Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them
to take a shot at bin Laden. This is complete fiction and the event
portrayed never happened. First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report
makes clear that CIA Director George Tenet had been directed by
President Clinton and Mr. Berger to get bin Laden (p. 199 &
508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy, National Security Council senior
director for counterterrorism from 1999-2001, has said, on more than
one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by the
CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden
and al-Qaeda."

In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard
Clarke, has said that contrary to the movie:

1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in
Afghanistan and saw bin Laden;

2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the
alleged bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and

3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on
the camp because the information was single-sourced and there would
be no way to know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a
cruise missile hit it.

As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in
fact approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the
CIA to capture bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never
able to carry out the operation and the CIA recommended against
inserting Agency personnel to do it. The Department of Defense, when
asked by President Clinton to examine the use of US troops to
capture bin Laden, also recommended against that option.

-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden
without first alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the
objections of the military. Again, this is false.

-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama
insinuates that President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the
impeachment and the Lewinsky matter to be engaged in pursuing bin
Laden. This allegation is absurd and was directly refuted by ABC
News consultant Richard Clarke in his book, Against All Enemies:
"Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best national
security advice without regard to his personal problems. 'Do you
recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give me political
advice or personal advice about the timing. That's my problem. Let
me worry about that.' If we thought this was the best time to hit
the Afghan camps, he would order it and take the heat."

While these are three examples that we are aware of that are
utterly baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the
substance and bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the
advertisements we've seen for this drama suggest that President
Clinton was inattentive to the threat of terrorism or insufficiently
intent upon eliminating the threat from bin Laden. Note that the
9/11 Commission Report says:

-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)

-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about
terrorism had steadily risen." (p. 102)

-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and
his national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they
had a special daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest
updates on bin Laden's reported location." (p. 175)

-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public
statements. In his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington
University, he called terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p.
500)

We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find
any basis for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the
drama, which suggests that the Clinton Administration was
inattentive to the threat of a terrorist strike.

Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the
background and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr.
Nowrasteh, which have been well-documented on numerous conservative
blogs and talk shows in his promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's
bias can be seen in an interview he gave to David Horowitz's
conservative magazine Frontpage, during which he said:

"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response -
or lack of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden
to keep attacking American interests. The worst example is the
response to the October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen
where 17 American sailors were killed. There simply was no response.
Nothing."

But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a
president needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and
law enforcement officers have concluded who is responsible." And as
the 9/11 Commission report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not
have clear evidence of bin Laden's connection to the attack on the
USS Cole before the end of the Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193,
195 & executive summary).

While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of
historical fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history
that will be misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your
stated obligation to "get it right," we urge you to do so by not
airing this drama until the egregious factual errors are corrected,
an endeavor we could easily assist you with given the opportunity to
view the film.

Sincerely,

Bruce R. Lindsey

Chief Executive Officer

William J. Clinton Foundation

Douglas J. Band

Counselor to President Clinton

Office of William Jefferson Clinton

Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright

Mr. Samuel R. Berger

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

Mr. Stephen McPherson

Mr. George J. Mitchell

Mr. John D. Podesta

Mr. David Westin

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States



.



User: "CM"

Title: EVERYONE IS WATCHING FOOTBALL 10 Sep 2006 09:23:14 PM
Only the right wing nuts are watching the ABC fairy tale.
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
news:ee1n83$otp$1@news.datemas.de...

Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers
representing Woody, and threatening

ABC.

America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't take the
heat.

Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given the
courtesy to view the film".

THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON

ANYTHING !!!!!!!!

That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !



Spit





September 1, 2006

Dear Bob,

As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path to
9/11," which purports to document the events leading up to the terrorist
attacks of September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is based on the
9/11 Commission Report and, as Steve McPherson, President of ABC
Entertainment, has said: "When you take on the responsibility of telling
the story behind such an important event, it is absolutely critical that
you get it right."

By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The content of
this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has a duty
to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely. It is
unconscionable to mislead the American public about one of the most
horrendous tragedies our country has ever known.

Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been given
the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling given the
reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh
has been criticized for inaccurately portraying historical events in the
past. In response to previous criticism, he has even said, "I made a
conscious effort not to contact any members of the Administration because
I didn't want them to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been
given the courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have
seen the drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least
three significant factual errors:

-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security Advisor
Sandy Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them to take a shot
at bin Laden. This is complete fiction and the event portrayed never
happened. First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report makes clear that CIA
Director George Tenet had been directed by President Clinton and Mr.
Berger to get bin Laden (p. 199 & 508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy,
National Security Council senior director for counterterrorism from
1999-2001, has said, on more than one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved
every request made of him by the CIA and the U.S. military involving using
force against bin Laden and al-Qaeda."

In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard Clarke, has
said that contrary to the movie:

1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in Afghanistan and
saw bin Laden;

2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the
alleged bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and

3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on the
camp because the information was single-sourced and there would be no way
to know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a cruise missile
hit it.

As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in fact
approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the CIA to
capture bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never able to carry
out the operation and the CIA recommended against inserting Agency
personnel to do it. The Department of Defense, when asked by President
Clinton to examine the use of US troops to capture bin Laden, also
recommended against that option.

-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden without first
alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the objections of the
military. Again, this is false.

-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama insinuates that
President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the impeachment and the
Lewinsky matter to be engaged in pursuing bin Laden. This allegation is
absurd and was directly refuted by ABC News consultant Richard Clarke in
his book, Against All Enemies: "Clinton made clear that we were to give
him our best national security advice without regard to his personal
problems. 'Do you recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give
me political advice or personal advice about the timing. That's my
problem. Let me worry about that.' If we thought this was the best time to
hit the Afghan camps, he would order it and take the heat."

While these are three examples that we are aware of that are utterly
baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the substance and
bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the advertisements we've
seen for this drama suggest that President Clinton was inattentive to the
threat of terrorism or insufficiently intent upon eliminating the threat
from bin Laden. Note that the 9/11 Commission Report says:

-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)

-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about terrorism
had steadily risen." (p. 102)

-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and his
national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they had a
special daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest updates on bin
Laden's reported location." (p. 175)

-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public statements.
In his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington University, he called
terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p. 500)

We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find any basis
for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the drama, which
suggests that the Clinton Administration was inattentive to the threat of
a terrorist strike.

Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the background
and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr. Nowrasteh, which have
been well-documented on numerous conservative blogs and talk shows in his
promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's bias can be seen in an interview
he gave to David Horowitz's conservative magazine Frontpage, during which
he said:

"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response - or
lack of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep
attacking American interests. The worst example is the response to the
October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen where 17 American sailors
were killed. There simply was no response. Nothing."

But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a
president needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and law
enforcement officers have concluded who is responsible." And as the 9/11
Commission report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not have clear
evidence of bin Laden's connection to the attack on the USS Cole before
the end of the Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193, 195 & executive
summary).

While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of
historical fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history that
will be misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your stated
obligation to "get it right," we urge you to do so by not airing this
drama until the egregious factual errors are corrected, an endeavor we
could easily assist you with given the opportunity to view the film.

Sincerely,

Bruce R. Lindsey

Chief Executive Officer

William J. Clinton Foundation

Douglas J. Band

Counselor to President Clinton

Office of William Jefferson Clinton

Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright

Mr. Samuel R. Berger

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

Mr. Stephen McPherson

Mr. George J. Mitchell

Mr. John D. Podesta

Mr. David Westin

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States


.

User: "keith"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 03:17:05 PM
The Reicht wing nazi party hasnt killed that right yet. Notice I said
yet fuktard?
ViperSpit wrote:

Here it is folks, the letter written by the "team" of lawyers representing
Woody, and threatening

ABC.

America has about had it with cowardly, ***** liberals who can't take the
heat.

Notice how the fuckwit Libby lawyer says, "we haven't been given the
courtesy to view the film".

THAT'S BECUASE NOBODY OWES THESE ***** HEADS OR BILL CLINTON

ANYTHING !!!!!!!!

That's right. Nobdoy OWES Liberal Puke Pinkos ANYTHING !



Spit





September 1, 2006

Dear Bob,

As you know, ABC intends to air a two part miniseries, "The Path to 9/11,"
which purports to document the events leading up to the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001. ABC claims that the show is based on the 9/11 Commission
Report and, as Steve McPherson, President of ABC Entertainment, has said:
"When you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an
important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right."

By ABC's own standard, ABC has gotten it terribly wrong. The content of
this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has a duty
to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely. It is unconscionable
to mislead the American public about one of the most horrendous tragedies
our country has ever known.

Despite several requests to view the miniseries, we have not been given
the courtesy of seeing it. This is particularly troubling given the
reputation of Cyrus Nowrasteh, the drama's writer/producer. Mr. Nowrasteh
has been criticized for inaccurately portraying historical events in the
past. In response to previous criticism, he has even said, "I made a
conscious effort not to contact any members of the Administration because I
didn't want them to stymie my efforts." Indeed, while we have not been given
the courtesy of a viewing, based upon reports from people who have seen the
drama you plan to air, we understand that there are at least three
significant factual errors:

-- The drama leads viewers to believe that National Security Advisor Sandy
Berger told the CIA that he would not authorize them to take a shot at bin
Laden. This is complete fiction and the event portrayed never happened.
First of all, the 9/11 Commission Report makes clear that CIA Director
George Tenet had been directed by President Clinton and Mr. Berger to get
bin Laden (p. 199 & 508-509). Secondly, Roger Cressy, National Security
Council senior director for counterterrorism from 1999-2001, has said, on
more than one occasion, "Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by
the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and
al-Qaeda."

In addition, ABC's own counter-terrorism consultant, Richard Clarke, has
said that contrary to the movie:

1) No US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in Afghanistan and
saw bin Laden;

2) The head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was nowhere near the alleged
bin Laden camp and did not see bin Laden; and

3) CIA Director Tenet said that he could not recommend a strike on the
camp because the information was single-sourced and there would be no way to
know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a cruise missile hit
it.

As Clarke and others will corroborate, President Clinton did in fact
approve of a standing plan to use Afghans who worked for the CIA to capture
bin Laden. The CIA's Afghan operatives were never able to carry out the
operation and the CIA recommended against inserting Agency personnel to do
it. The Department of Defense, when asked by President Clinton to examine
the use of US troops to capture bin Laden, also recommended against that
option.

-- The drama claims that former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
refused to sanction a missile strike against bin Laden without first
alerting the Pakistanis and notified them over the objections of the
military. Again, this is false.

-- Using newsreel footage of President Clinton, the drama insinuates that
President Clinton was too pre-occupied with the impeachment and the Lewinsky
matter to be engaged in pursuing bin Laden. This allegation is absurd and
was directly refuted by ABC News consultant Richard Clarke in his book,
Against All Enemies: "Clinton made clear that we were to give him our best
national security advice without regard to his personal problems. 'Do you
recommend that we strike on the 20th? Fine. Do not give me political advice
or personal advice about the timing. That's my problem. Let me worry about
that.' If we thought this was the best time to hit the Afghan camps, he
would order it and take the heat."

While these are three examples that we are aware of that are utterly
baseless, they are clearly indicative of other errors in the substance and
bent of the film. Indeed, the overall tone in the advertisements we've seen
for this drama suggest that President Clinton was inattentive to the threat
of terrorism or insufficiently intent upon eliminating the threat from bin
Laden. Note that the 9/11 Commission Report says:

-- We believe that both President Clinton and President Bush were
genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al Qaeda." (p. 349)

-- "By May 1998 . clearly, President Clinton's concern about terrorism had
steadily risen." (p. 102)

-- "President Clinton was deeply concerned about bin Laden. He and his
national security advisor, Samuel 'Sandy' Berger, ensured they had a special
daily pipeline of reports feeding them the latest updates on bin Laden's
reported location." (p. 175)

-- "President Clinton spoke of terrorism in numerous public statements. In
his August 5, 1996, remarks at George Washington University, he called
terrorism 'the enemy of our generation.'" (p. 500)

We challenge anyone to read the 9/11 Commission Report and find any basis
for the false allegations noted above or the tenor of the drama, which
suggests that the Clinton Administration was inattentive to the threat of a
terrorist strike.

Frankly, the bias of the ABC drama is not surprising given the background
and political leanings of its writer/producer, Mr. Nowrasteh, which have
been well-documented on numerous conservative blogs and talk shows in his
promotion of this film. Mr. Nowrasteh's bias can be seen in an interview he
gave to David Horowitz's conservative magazine Frontpage, during which he
said:

"The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response - or lack
of response - to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep
attacking American interests. The worst example is the response to the
October, 2000 attack of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen where 17 American sailors
were killed. There simply was no response. Nothing."

But as Sandy Berger told the 9/11 Commission: "[T]o go to war, a president
needs to be able to say that his senior intelligence and law enforcement
officers have concluded who is responsible." And as the 9/11 Commission
report repeatedly acknowledges, the US did not have clear evidence of bin
Laden's connection to the attack on the USS Cole before the end of the
Clinton Administration (p. 192, 193, 195 & executive summary).

While ABC is promoting "The Path to 9/11" as a dramatization of historical
fact, in truth it is a fictitious rewriting of history that will be
misinterpreted by millions of Americans. Given your stated obligation to
"get it right," we urge you to do so by not airing this drama until the
egregious factual errors are corrected, an endeavor we could easily assist
you with given the opportunity to view the film.

Sincerely,

Bruce R. Lindsey

Chief Executive Officer

William J. Clinton Foundation

Douglas J. Band

Counselor to President Clinton

Office of William Jefferson Clinton

Cc: Ms. Madeleine K. Albright

Mr. Samuel R. Berger

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

Mr. Stephen McPherson

Mr. George J. Mitchell

Mr. John D. Podesta

Mr. David Westin

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States

.

User: "carlos"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 03:32:18 PM
ViperSpit wrote:
"...we urge you to do so by not airing this drama..."
Hello,
Once again, you lie. There is no threat of anything in that letter.
After many of the problems with the show, all Clinton and the
co-signers do is urge ABC not to air the thing.
Why do you have your thong all in a twist, Viper?
Carlos
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 09:54:58 PM
"carlos" <carlosmachina@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157920338.398146.103470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

ViperSpit wrote:

"...we urge you to do so by not airing this drama..."

Hello,

Once again, you lie. There is no threat of anything in that letter.
After many of the problems with the show, all Clinton and the
co-signers do is urge ABC not to air the thing.

Why do you have your thong all in a twist, Viper?

Carlos

Several congresscritters of the dim persuasion threatened ABC's lisence.
Shades of Stalin. How liberal of them.
Jim E
.
User: "c-bee1"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 10:22:39 PM
"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
news:4mk1lkF6fp0eU1@individual.net...


"carlos" <carlosmachina@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157920338.398146.103470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

ViperSpit wrote:

"...we urge you to do so by not airing this drama..."

Hello,

Once again, you lie. There is no threat of anything in that letter.
After many of the problems with the show, all Clinton and the
co-signers do is urge ABC not to air the thing.

Why do you have your thong all in a twist, Viper?

Carlos


Several congresscritters of the dim persuasion threatened ABC's lisence.

Cite?
.
User: "Starkiller©"

Title: Re: SCARED WOODY CLINTON SENDS HIS "TEAM" OF LAWYERS OUT TO THREATEN ABC 10 Sep 2006 10:39:13 PM
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:22:39 -0500, "c-bee1" <c-bee1@insightbb.com>
wrote:


"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
news:4mk1lkF6fp0eU1@individual.net...


"carlos" <carlosmachina@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157920338.398146.103470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

ViperSpit wrote:

"...we urge you to do so by not airing this drama..."

Hello,

Once again, you lie. There is no threat of anything in that letter.
After many of the problems with the show, all Clinton and the
co-signers do is urge ABC not to air the thing.

Why do you have your thong all in a twist, Viper?

Carlos


Several congresscritters of the dim persuasion threatened ABC's lisence.


Cite?

Maybe a veiled threat. I dunno you tell me.
September 7, 2006
Mr. Robert A. Iger
President and CEO
The Walt Disney Company
500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank CA 91521
Dear Mr. Iger,
We write with serious concerns about the planned upcoming
broadcast of The Path to 9/11 mini-series on September 10 and 11.
Countless reports from experts on 9/11 who have viewed the program
indicate numerous and serious inaccuracies that will undoubtedly serve
to misinform the American people about the tragic events surrounding
the terrible attacks of that day. Furthermore, the manner in which
this program has been developed, funded, and advertised suggests a
partisan bent unbecoming of a major company like Disney and a major
and well respected news organization like ABC. We therefore urge you
to cancel this broadcast to cease Disney’s plans to use it as a
teaching tool in schools across America through Scholastic. Presenting
such deeply flawed and factually inaccurate misinformation to the
American public and to children would be a gross miscarriage of your
corporate and civic responsibility to the law, to your shareholders,
and to the nation.
The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free
broadcast license predicated on the fundamental understanding of your
principle obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves in
serving the public interest. Nowhere is this public interest
obligation more apparent than in the duty of broadcasters to serve the
civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open and accurate
discussion of political ideas and events.
Disney and ABC claim this program to be based on the 9/11
Commission Report and are using that assertion as part of the
promotional campaign for it. The 9/11 Commission is the most respected
American authority on the 9/11 attacks, and association with it
carries a special responsibility. Indeed, the very events themselves
on 9/11, so tragic as they were, demand extreme care by any who
attempt to use those events as part of an entertainment or educational
program. To quote Steve McPhereson, president of ABC Entertainment,
“When you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such
an important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right.”
Unfortunately, it appears Disney and ABC got it totally wrong.
Despite claims by your network’s representatives that The Path to
9/11 is based on the report of the 9/11 Commission, 9/11 Commissioners
themselves, as well as other experts on the issues, disagree.
Richard Ben-Veniste, speaking for himself and fellow 9/11
Commissioners who recently viewed the program, said, “As we were
watching, we were trying to think how they could have misinterpreted
the 9/11 Commission’s findings the way that they had.” [“9/11
Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,” New York Times,
September 6, 2006]
Richard Clarke, the former counter-terrorism czar, and a national
security advisor to ABC has described the program as “deeply flawed”
and said of the program’s depiction of a Clinton official hanging up
on an intelligence agent, “It’s 180 degrees from what happened.”
[“9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,” New York
Times, September 6, 2006]
Reports suggest that an FBI agent who worked on 9/11 and served as
a consultant to ABC on this program quit halfway through because, “he
thought they were making things up.” [MSNBC, September 7, 2006]
Even Thomas Kean, who serves as a paid consultant to the
miniseries, has admitted that scenes in the film are fictionalized.
[“9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,” New York
Times, September 6, 2006]
That Disney would seek to broadcast an admittedly and proven false
recounting of the events of 9/11 raises serious questions about the
motivations of its creators and those who approved the deeply flawed
program. Finally, that Disney plans to air commercial-free a program
that reportedly cost it $40 million to produce serves to add fuel to
these concerns.
These concerns are made all the more pressing by the political
leaning of and the public statements made by the writer/producer of
this miniseries, Mr. Cyrus Nowrasteh, in promoting this miniseries
across conservative blogs and talk shows.
Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that
could be construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a grave
and important event involving the security of our nation is a
discredit both to the Disney brand and to the legacy of honesty built
at ABC by honorable individuals from David Brinkley to Peter Jennings.
Furthermore, that Disney would seek to use Scholastic to promote this
misguided programming to American children as a substitute for factual
information is a disgrace.
As 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick said, “It is critically
important to the safety of our nation that our citizens, and