How are coalition troops "a big part of the problem?"

Before there were trooops, no war. After, war.

In article <1166287687.596558.198090@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
cognac756@yahoo.com says...

explorerthedog wrote:

Sending More Troops Into Iraq Is Like Pouring More Water On A Gasoline
Fire.

It will never work, and it only makes things worse.

You cannot put out a gasoline fire with water, because the water rolls
off the gasoline, spreading the fire. And if you pour more water on a
gasoline fire, you only make things worse.

Likewise with sending more troops into Iraq: The troops we already have
in there are a big part of the problem, and adding more of them will
only make things worse.

How are coalition troops "a big part of the problem?"

They aren't a big part of the problem. They are the problem. They are an
occupying force that has acted with brutality, destroyed whole cities and
killed many thousands of people.

remember strategic hamlets and Vietnamization?

Sentinel wrote:

explorerthedog wrote:

Sending More Troops Into Iraq Is Like Pouring More Water On A Gasoline
Fire.

It will never work, and it only makes things worse.

You cannot put out a gasoline fire with water, because the water rolls
off the gasoline, spreading the fire. And if you pour more water on a
gasoline fire, you only make things worse.

We will make our troops like sand then.

Likewise with sending more troops into Iraq: The troops we already have
in there are a big part of the problem, and adding more of them will
only make things worse.

The problem of Jihad against the west? The problem
is radical Islam, giving in to them is feeding the flames.

Before we invaded, Iraq was one of the most secular of all Arab states.
There were no "jihadis" in the areas of Iraq under Saddam Hussein's
control. He and Ossama bin Laden were enemies.

Here is a clue from the common experience of mankind: If you doing
something the wrong way, doing more of it the same way will never fix
the problem.

Example: You are trying to loosen a bolt by turning it clockwise
instead of counter-clockwise. So instead of loosening the bolt, you are
making it tighter.

The bolt will have to bust off because it wont go the other way.


If you apply more force in the same wrong direction,

you will never loosen the bolt, and you will probably break off its
head. The solution is to recognize the problem and change the direction
of your efforts.

We have recognized the problem: The threat of worldwide calamity,
depression and WWIII initiated by unchecked aggression by radical
Islamic Jihadists.

Yeah, we gotta be prepared for the jihadi aircraft carriers in the Gulf
of Mexico. Get real. Terrorist attacks on the "homeland" have been rare
and only started occurring after decades of US interference in the
Middle East. We, on the other hand, are constantly stirring up the
hornets nest over there. Then, when we get stung we whine.

In Iraq, we are doing things the wrong way. Our invasion was the
original cause of the problem, because there was no way a
Christian-majority army from an infidel country supporting Israel could
have ever been welcomed as liberators by the Muslim Arabs of Iraq. The
whole idea was ignorant and delusional from the beginning.

But we invaded anyway, and now their country is falling apart because
of us, and we are stuck in a great big mess of our own creation.

War is hell, but we are getting off easy. I'm sure it's not easy
for Iraq with all the insurgents coming in financed by Iran, Al-Queeda,
Syria etc...

Even our generals say that very few of the insurgents come from outside
Iraq. On the order of 5% or less, I believe.