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Senior Conservative Republicans Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor. |
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/young-knew-walter-reed/
March 8, 2007
CONFIRMED: Top House Spending Official Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor
Congressional Quarterly confirms today that senior House
conservatives, including the chairmen of the appropriations and
oversight committees, knew about the neglect and deplorable conditions
at Walter Reed years before they were exposed by the Washington Post.
Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL), former chairman of the House
Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, said he stopped short of going
public with the hospital’s problems “to avoid embarrassing the Army
while it was fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan”:
“We got in Gen. Kiley’s face on a regular basis,” Young said, adding
that he even contacted the commander of the National Naval Medical
Center in Bethesda in the hopes of getting better care there for the
patient with the aneurysm, though doctors at Walter Reed declined to
transfer him. …
“We did not go public with these concerns, because we did not want to
undermine the confidence of the patients and their families and give
the Army a black eye while fighting a war,” Young said.
Young claims he regularly “got in Gen. Kiley’s face.”
But Kiley never responded to Young’s complaints.
Nevertheless, as ThinkProgress noted last week, Young was publicly
praising Kiley during a congressional hearing as recently as January:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/01/young-walterreed/
YOUNG:
Well, Mr. Chairman, I want to join you in welcoming our guests and our
witnesses today, having known especially Don Arthur and General Kiley
very, very well over the years.
I thought they’d get tired of seeing us in their hospitals.
And we haven’t had as much opportunity to visit with the Air Force,
General.
But I know that these gentlemen are committed to providing our war
heroes with the very, very best medical care that is possible.
Also, while Young claims he didn’t want to go public with the problems
at Walter Reed, he was more than willing to use wounded veterans
publicly as a political cudgel.
Here is Young on the House floor on 11/18/05, speaking against Rep.
John Murtha’s (D-PA) redeployment plan:
YOUNG:
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, we need to send a strong message to our
troops and to their families.
For those families who are dealing with the loss of a loved one, for
those families who are dealing with a seriously wounded soldier or
marine who might be at Walter Reed Hospital or at Bethesda Hospital or
at Landsthul in Germany, we need to let them know that we are here to
support them.
____________________________________________________
Support our troops, eh?
Harry
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| Title: Re: Senior Conservative Republicans Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor. |
08 Mar 2007 11:36:55 AM |
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And so did Dummyrats.
Jim
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/young-knew-walter-reed/
March 8, 2007
CONFIRMED: Top House Spending Official Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor
Congressional Quarterly confirms today that senior House
conservatives, including the chairmen of the appropriations and
oversight committees, knew about the neglect and deplorable conditions
at Walter Reed years before they were exposed by the Washington Post.
Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL), former chairman of the House
Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, said he stopped short of going
public with the hospital’s problems “to avoid embarrassing the Army
while it was fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan”:
“We got in Gen. Kiley’s face on a regular basis,” Young said, adding
that he even contacted the commander of the National Naval Medical
Center in Bethesda in the hopes of getting better care there for the
patient with the aneurysm, though doctors at Walter Reed declined to
transfer him. …
“We did not go public with these concerns, because we did not want to
undermine the confidence of the patients and their families and give
the Army a black eye while fighting a war,” Young said.
Young claims he regularly “got in Gen. Kiley’s face.”
But Kiley never responded to Young’s complaints.
Nevertheless, as ThinkProgress noted last week, Young was publicly
praising Kiley during a congressional hearing as recently as January:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/01/young-walterreed/
YOUNG:
Well, Mr. Chairman, I want to join you in welcoming our guests and our
witnesses today, having known especially Don Arthur and General Kiley
very, very well over the years.
I thought they’d get tired of seeing us in their hospitals.
And we haven’t had as much opportunity to visit with the Air Force,
General.
But I know that these gentlemen are committed to providing our war
heroes with the very, very best medical care that is possible.
Also, while Young claims he didn’t want to go public with the problems
at Walter Reed, he was more than willing to use wounded veterans
publicly as a political cudgel.
Here is Young on the House floor on 11/18/05, speaking against Rep.
John Murtha’s (D-PA) redeployment plan:
YOUNG:
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, we need to send a strong message to our
troops and to their families.
For those families who are dealing with the loss of a loved one, for
those families who are dealing with a seriously wounded soldier or
marine who might be at Walter Reed Hospital or at Bethesda Hospital or
at Landsthul in Germany, we need to let them know that we are here to
support them.
____________________________________________________
Support our troops, eh?
Harry
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| Title: Re: Senior Conservative Republicans Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor. |
08 Mar 2007 11:53:23 AM |
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On Mar 8, 9:36 am, "Get a life" <j...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
And so did Dummyrats.
Prove it.
Like everything else the Repugs locked the Democrats out of when they
were in power, the Repugs most likely hid the reports on the failed
medical care the troops were receiving.
"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:crh0v2djljj7dprhq73nd358ksk1b3sil8@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/young-knew-walter-reed/
March 8, 2007
CONFIRMED: Top House Spending Official Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor
Congressional Quarterly confirms today that senior House
conservatives, including the chairmen of the appropriations and
oversight committees, knew about the neglect and deplorable conditions
at Walter Reed years before they were exposed by the Washington Post.
Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL), former chairman of the House
Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, said he stopped short of going
public with the hospital's problems "to avoid embarrassing the Army
while it was fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan":
"We got in Gen. Kiley's face on a regular basis," Young said, adding
that he even contacted the commander of the National Naval Medical
Center in Bethesda in the hopes of getting better care there for the
patient with the aneurysm, though doctors at Walter Reed declined to
transfer him. ...
"We did not go public with these concerns, because we did not want to
undermine the confidence of the patients and their families and give
the Army a black eye while fighting a war," Young said.
Young claims he regularly "got in Gen. Kiley's face."
But Kiley never responded to Young's complaints.
Nevertheless, as ThinkProgress noted last week, Young was publicly
praising Kiley during a congressional hearing as recently as January:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/01/young-walterreed/
YOUNG:
Well, Mr. Chairman, I want to join you in welcoming our guests and our
witnesses today, having known especially Don Arthur and General Kiley
very, very well over the years.
I thought they'd get tired of seeing us in their hospitals.
And we haven't had as much opportunity to visit with the Air Force,
General.
But I know that these gentlemen are committed to providing our war
heroes with the very, very best medical care that is possible.
Also, while Young claims he didn't want to go public with the problems
at Walter Reed, he was more than willing to use wounded veterans
publicly as a political cudgel.
Here is Young on the House floor on 11/18/05, speaking against Rep.
John Murtha's (D-PA) redeployment plan:
YOUNG:
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, we need to send a strong message to our
troops and to their families.
For those families who are dealing with the loss of a loved one, for
those families who are dealing with a seriously wounded soldier or
marine who might be at Walter Reed Hospital or at Bethesda Hospital or
at Landsthul in Germany, we need to let them know that we are here to
support them.
____________________________________________________
Support our troops, eh?
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08 Mar 2007 12:25:36 PM |
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mordie wrote on alt.impeach.bush:
[stuff]
Not to mention...
Posted on Tue, Feb. 13, 2007
Budget cuts veterans’ health care
Bush’s proposed reductions are at odds with a growing medical bill
because of Iraq.
By ANDREW TAYLOR
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration plans to cut funding for
veterans’ health care two years from now - even as wounded troops
returning from Iraq could overwhelm the system.
Bush is using the cuts, critics say, to help fulfill his pledge to
balance the budget by 2012.
After an increase sought for next year, the Bush budget would turn
current trends on their head. Even though the cost of providing
medical care to veterans has been growing rapidly - by more than 10
percent in many years - White House budget documents assume
consecutive cutbacks in 2009 and 2010 and a freeze thereafter.
The proposed cuts are at odds with recent VA budget trends - its
medical care budget has risen every year for two decades and 83
percent in the six years since Bush took office - sowing suspicion
that the White House is making them up to make its long-term
deficit figures look better.
"Either the administration is willingly proposing massive cuts in
VA health care," said Rep. Chet Edwards, a Texas Democrat, chairman
of the panel overseeing the VA’s budget, "or its promise of a
balanced budget by 2012 is based on completely unrealistic
assumptions."
Edwards said that a more realistic estimate of veterans’ costs is
$16 billion higher than the Bush estimate for 2012.
Even the White House says the long-term budget numbers don’t
represent actual administration policies. Similar cuts assumed in
earlier budgets have been reversed.
The veteran cuts, said White House budget office spokesman Sean
Kevelighan, "don’t reflect any policy decisions. We’ll revisit them
when we do the (future) budgets."
The number of veterans coming into the VA health-care system has
been rising by about 5 percent a year as the number of people
returning from Iraq with illnesses or injuries keep rising. Iraq
and Afghanistan war veterans represent almost 5 percent of the VA’s
patient caseload, and many are returning from battle with grievous
injuries requiring costly care, such as traumatic brain injuries.
The VA expects to treat about 5.8 million patients next year,
including 263,000 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The White House budget office, however, assumes that the veterans’
medical services budget — up 83 percent since Bush took office and
winning a big increase in Bush’s proposed 2008 budget — can absorb
a 2 percent cut the following year and remain essentially frozen
for three years in a row after that.
"It’s implausible," Sen. Patty Murray, a Washington Democrat, said
of the budget projections.
The White House made virtually identical assumptions last year — a
big increase in the first year of the budget and cuts for every
year thereafter to veterans’ medical care. Now, the White House
estimate for 2008 is more than $4 billion higher than Bush figured
last year.
And the VA has been known to get short-term estimates wrong as
well. Two years ago, Congress had to pass an emergency $1.5 billion
infusion for veterans’ health programs.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/16684548.htm
--
If you don’t think cutting veterans’ health benefits is good for
America, then you don’t support the troops.
Lather, rinse, repeat. -Luke
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08 Mar 2007 11:48:57 AM |
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On Mar 8, 9:36 am, "Get a life" <j...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
And so did Dummyrats.
Jim
Good thing "Dummyrats" are the majority in Congress now. They'll do
something about it. I mean, how absurd is it that the commander-in-
chief needs to appoint a bipartisan special commission to investigate?
"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:crh0v2djljj7dprhq73nd358ksk1b3sil8@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/young-knew-walter-reed/
March 8, 2007
CONFIRMED: Top House Spending Official Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor
Congressional Quarterly confirms today that senior House
conservatives, including the chairmen of the appropriations and
oversight committees, knew about the neglect and deplorable conditions
at Walter Reed years before they were exposed by the Washington Post.
Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL), former chairman of the House
Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, said he stopped short of going
public with the hospital's problems "to avoid embarrassing the Army
while it was fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan":
"We got in Gen. Kiley's face on a regular basis," Young said, adding
that he even contacted the commander of the National Naval Medical
Center in Bethesda in the hopes of getting better care there for the
patient with the aneurysm, though doctors at Walter Reed declined to
transfer him. ...
"We did not go public with these concerns, because we did not want to
undermine the confidence of the patients and their families and give
the Army a black eye while fighting a war," Young said.
Young claims he regularly "got in Gen. Kiley's face."
But Kiley never responded to Young's complaints.
Nevertheless, as ThinkProgress noted last week, Young was publicly
praising Kiley during a congressional hearing as recently as January:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/01/young-walterreed/
YOUNG:
Well, Mr. Chairman, I want to join you in welcoming our guests and our
witnesses today, having known especially Don Arthur and General Kiley
very, very well over the years.
I thought they'd get tired of seeing us in their hospitals.
And we haven't had as much opportunity to visit with the Air Force,
General.
But I know that these gentlemen are committed to providing our war
heroes with the very, very best medical care that is possible.
Also, while Young claims he didn't want to go public with the problems
at Walter Reed, he was more than willing to use wounded veterans
publicly as a political cudgel.
Here is Young on the House floor on 11/18/05, speaking against Rep.
John Murtha's (D-PA) redeployment plan:
YOUNG:
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, we need to send a strong message to our
troops and to their families.
For those families who are dealing with the loss of a loved one, for
those families who are dealing with a seriously wounded soldier or
marine who might be at Walter Reed Hospital or at Bethesda Hospital or
at Landsthul in Germany, we need to let them know that we are here to
support them.
____________________________________________________
Support our troops, eh?
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08 Mar 2007 07:33:04 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:27:11 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/young-knew-walter-reed/
March 8, 2007
CONFIRMED: Top House Spending Official Knew Of Walter Reed Squalor
SNIPPED for the sake of brevity.
Walter Reed was more than about squalor. It was about making
sure there were things there that produce respiratory ailments and
other problems that mimic the symptoms of DU poisoning.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4661884201266527175&q=poison+dust
If you have a fast connection, it won't take too long to
download. Go to about 28:12 in the video. It says it all.
Walter Reed isn't being covered up; it WAS the coverup for DU
poisoning.
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