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User: "Noahs Dove"
Date: 08 Mar 2007 02:14:19 AM
Object: Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement etc. question 9/11 Commission report
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report
Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers,
intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government
officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission
Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.
Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of
9/11. This website is a collection of their public statements. It
should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated
with this website.
Listed below are statements by more than 80 of these senior officials.
Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11
Commission Report is tragically flawed. These individuals cannot be
simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy
theory. Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to
their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not
irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be
just the opposite. (continued below)
Demand a New 9/11 Investigation!
.

User: "Hertz_Donut"

Title: Re: Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement etc. question 9/11 Commission report 08 Mar 2007 02:26:01 AM
"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1173341658.895821.326560@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers,
intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government
officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission
Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.
Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of
9/11. This website is a collection of their public statements. It
should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated
with this website.

It should also be noted that this website is not affiliated with anything
vaguely relating to truth, facts, honesty or integrity. The website quotes
individuals out of context, mis-quotes indiviuals, and "creates" fictitious
individuals when none exist that suits it's purpose.

Listed below are statements by more than 80 of these senior officials.
Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11
Commission Report is tragically flawed.

And none of them say anything vaguely supprtive of the peremise in the
tilte.
Visit the site and read for yourself.
These individuals cannot be

simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy
theory.

Because none of them are proposing a conspiracy theory. I invite the
readers to see how the author twists the words of Sen. Bob Graham; Sen. Mark
Dayton, et al. THey are talking about events that happened after the
attacks, and are not questioning the finding of the report.
Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to

their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not
irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be
just the opposite. (continued below)

Demand a New 9/11 Investigation!

Demand that you get a refund for your education.
Nice try, ***** stain! You are a whack job, and your sorry excuse for a
website is hack job, and a very poor one at that.
Honu
.
User: "Hatto von Aquitanien"

Title: Re: Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement etc. question 9/11 Commission report 08 Mar 2007 07:19:03 AM
Hertz_Donut wrote:


"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1173341658.895821.326560@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers,
intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government
officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission
Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.
Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of
9/11. This website is a collection of their public statements. It
should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated
with this website.


It should also be noted that this website is not affiliated with anything
vaguely relating to truth, facts, honesty or integrity. The website
quotes individuals out of context, mis-quotes indiviuals, and "creates"
fictitious individuals when none exist that suits it's purpose.

What really should be noted is that Hertz_Donut will say anything to
discredit those who threaten his masters. Checking facts is completely
irrelevant to him.

Visit the site and read for yourself.

That is the first sane thing you have posted.

These individuals cannot be

simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy
theory.



Because none of them are proposing a conspiracy theory.

<quote>
Ernst Welteke ? Former President of Deutsche Bundesbank (German Federal
Bank) 1999 - 2004. German politician and political economist. Member of
the Hessian State Parliament, 1974 - 1995.
* Telegraph Article 9/23/01: "Ernst Welteke, president of the
Bundesbank, said financial investigators had found strong indications of
suspicious dealings in gold and oil, as well as unusual movements in
airline and insurance shares, in the days before the September 11 attacks
in the United States. ..."There are ever clearer signs that there were
activities on international financial markets that must have been carried
out with the necessary expert knowledge." http://www.telegraph.co.uk
* Washington Post Article 9/22/01: "The president of Germany's central
bank said today there was mounting evidence that people connected to the
attacks in New York and Washington sought to profit from the tragedy by
engaging in "terrorism insider trading" on European stock and commodity
markets.
Ernst Welteke, head of the Bundesbank, said a preliminary review by
German regulators and bank researchers showed there were highly suspicious
sales of shares in airlines and insurance companies, along with major
trades in gold and oil markets, before Sept. 11 that suggest they were
conducted with advance knowledge of the attacks.
Welteke said his researchers came across what he considers almost
irrefutable proof of insider trading as recently as Thursday, but he
refused to release details pending further consultations with regulators in
other countries.
"What we found makes us sure that people connected to the terrorists
must have been trying to profit from this tragedy,'' he told European
finance ministers and central bankers."
http://www.webcom.com/hrin/magazine/brussels.html
* Editor's note: The 9/11 Commission states in its Monograph on
Terrorist Financing, "The U.S. government investigation unequivocally
concluded that there was no evidence of illicit trading in the U.S. markets
with knowledge of the terrorist attacks. The Commission staff, after an
independent review of the government investigation, has discovered no
reason to doubt this conclusion." See also Paul Zarembka.
* Bio: http://64.233.179.104:
</quote>

Demand a New 9/11 Investigation!


Nice try, ***** stain! You are a whack job, and your sorry excuse for a
website is hack job, and a very poor one at that.

I believe you may be confusing the OP's web site with this:
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/misinformation.html
Now *that* is a Public Diplomacy lie factory!
--
Nil conscire sibi
.
User: "Hertz_Donut"

Title: Re: Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement etc. question 9/11 Commission report 08 Mar 2007 05:06:28 PM
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:huGdnb28OMHUkG3YnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@speakeasy.net...

Hertz_Donut wrote:


"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1173341658.895821.326560@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers,
intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government
officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission
Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.
Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of
9/11. This website is a collection of their public statements. It
should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated
with this website.


It should also be noted that this website is not affiliated with anything
vaguely relating to truth, facts, honesty or integrity. The website
quotes individuals out of context, mis-quotes indiviuals, and "creates"
fictitious individuals when none exist that suits it's purpose.


What really should be noted is that Hertz_Donut will say anything to
discredit those who threaten his masters. Checking facts is completely
irrelevant to him.

'
Can't verify what does not exist...there was not a fact to be found in the
article...it was all misquoted opinion.

Visit the site and read for yourself.


That is the first sane thing you have posted.

These individuals cannot be

simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy
theory.


I did not dismiss them as such. I merely pointed out how the page uses only
quotes that support it's slant.


Because none of them are proposing a conspiracy theory.


<quote>

Ernst Welteke ? Former President of Deutsche Bundesbank (German Federal
Bank) 1999 - 2004. German politician and political economist. Member of
the Hessian State Parliament, 1974 - 1995.

* Telegraph Article 9/23/01: "Ernst Welteke, president of the
Bundesbank, said financial investigators had found strong indications of
suspicious dealings in gold and oil, as well as unusual movements in
airline and insurance shares, in the days before the September 11 attacks
in the United States. ..."There are ever clearer signs that there were
activities on international financial markets that must have been carried
out with the necessary expert knowledge." http://www.telegraph.co.uk

And how is this a proposition for conspiracy?


* Washington Post Article 9/22/01: "The president of Germany's central
bank said today there was mounting evidence that people connected to the
attacks in New York and Washington sought to profit from the tragedy by
engaging in "terrorism insider trading" on European stock and commodity
markets.

"terroroism insider trading'???? Are you saying that every stock broker on
Wall Street knew in advance of the attack? You really are crazy if tyou
belive that.

Ernst Welteke, head of the Bundesbank, said a preliminary review by
German regulators and bank researchers showed there were highly suspicious
sales of shares in airlines and insurance companies, along with major
trades in gold and oil markets, before Sept. 11 that suggest they were
conducted with advance knowledge of the attacks.

Again, it is the *OPINION* of one person. It is proof of nothing. The
activites were not related to the attacks, but were instead related to the
impending announcement by Airbus Industries of two new aircraft.


Welteke said his researchers came across what he considers almost
irrefutable proof of insider trading as recently as Thursday, but he
refused to release details pending further consultations with regulators
in
other countries.

How, convenient..."I have proof, but I cannot show it to you".
Typical conspiracy nut tactic.
In the ensuing years, no such evidence has everbeen produced.
Yet you cite it as "proof" of your whacky wall street conspiracy.

"What we found makes us sure that people connected to the terrorists
must have been trying to profit from this tragedy,'' he told European
finance ministers and central bankers."
http://www.webcom.com/hrin/magazine/brussels.html

Of course, he could claim this. Again, he has no proof.
This is his 15 seconds of fame....


* Editor's note: The 9/11 Commission states in its Monograph on
Terrorist Financing, "The U.S. government investigation unequivocally
concluded that there was no evidence of illicit trading in the U.S.
markets
with knowledge of the terrorist attacks. The Commission staff, after an
independent review of the government investigation, has discovered no
reason to doubt this conclusion." See also Paul Zarembka.

And here is evidence, based upon an actual investigation, that contradicts
the "opinions" of the conspiracy nuts above.



* Bio: http://64.233.179.104:
</quote>

Demand a New 9/11 Investigation!


Nice try, ***** stain! You are a whack job, and your sorry excuse for a
website is hack job, and a very poor one at that.


I believe you may be confusing the OP's web site with this:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/misinformation.html

Now *that* is a Public Diplomacy lie factory!

As long as there are idiots like you, there is no need for a "lie factory"
You provide the lies for free!
Honu
.



User: "Yoga"

Title: Re: Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement etc. question9/11 Commission report 08 Mar 2007 12:34:15 PM
Christopher Ketcham wrote in his article about the Israeli spy ring
that he was told by a former CIA counterterrorism officer :
"There was no question but that [the order to close down the
investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at
CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that
the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11. Bear in mind
that this was a political issue, not a law enforcement or intelligence
issue. If somebody says we don't want the Israelis implicated in this ­-
we know that they've been spying the hell out of us, we know that they
possibly had information in advance of the attacks, but this would be a
political nightmare to deal with."
http://www.counterpunch.org/ketcham03072007.html
Noah's Dove wrote:

http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers,
intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government
officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission
Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.
Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of
9/11. This website is a collection of their public statements. It
should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated
with this website.

Listed below are statements by more than 80 of these senior officials.
Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11
Commission Report is tragically flawed. These individuals cannot be
simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy
theory. Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to
their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not
irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be
just the opposite. (continued below)

Demand a New 9/11 Investigation!

--
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