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"Paul Abeles" |
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24 Feb 2004 01:19:17 PM |
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Should the US invade Israel? |
A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?
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24 Feb 2004 09:03:35 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message news:<VsN_b.74741$Wa.32256@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Israel has first rights to it over the US, because members of the
Jewish nation
in exile invented it and gave it to the US, which ABSCONDED HIS
PATENTS
AND KICKED HIM OUT LIKE WASP THIEVES:
Leo Szilard - A Biographical Chronology
Leo Szilard: Physicist, Molecular Biologist.
Born Budapest, Hungary, February 11, 1898.
...
1927 Appointed Privatdozent (instructor) in Physics at University of
Berlin.
1928 Began teaching seminars on quantum theory with John von Neumann.
Hired as
consultant by German General Electric Company (A.E.G.) to develop
Einstein-Szilard refrigerator.
Filed German patent application on the linear accelerator.
1929 Filed German patent application on the cyclotron.
1931 Filed German patent application on the electron microscope.
1933 Fled Germany March 31 to escape Nazi persecution. In Britain,
aided fellow
refugees and catalyzed the formation of the Academic Assistance
Council. Ernest
Rutherford quoted in London Times on September 12 as saying "anyone
who looked
for a source of power in the transformation of the atoms was talking
moonshine." While walking through the streets of central London after
reading this article -- as he waited for a streetlight at the corner
of Southampton Row -- Leo Szilard CONCEIVED the neutron chain
reaction.
1934 On March 12, filed first British PATENT application on the
neutron chain
reaction! Request for laboratory space at Cambridge to investigate
chain
reactions rejected by Ernest Rutherford.
Began experiments at London's St.
Bartholomew's Hospital in search of a chain-reacting element, for
which he
suspected beryllium.
1936 Assigned chain-reaction PATENT to British Admiralty to ensure
patent would
remain secret. Unsuccessfully attempted to convince colleagues,
including Niels
Bohr and Enrico Fermi, that atomic energy might be feasible, and if
feasible was potentially so dangerous that research should be
controlled.
1937 Continued research in nuclear physics at Oxford. Designed a
betatron, in
collaboration with James Tuck.
1938 Moved to New York City, in anticipation of outbreak of World War
II.
Concluded, after further experiments, that indium was incapable of
chain-reacting.
1939 PREDICTED, immediately on learning of discovery of fission, that
uranium
might sustain a chain reaction. Began experiments at Columbia
University, in
collaboration with Walter Zinn, and demonstrated that neutrons were
emitted in
fission. Unsuccessfully proposed that results of fission experiments
be kept
secret because of danger of a German atomic bomb. Collaborated with
Enrico Fermi on experiment testing uranium-water system. Proposed
uranium-carbon lattice design for nuclear reactor. Unsuccessfully
attempted to convince Fermi of likelihood of chain reaction and need
to continue experiments. Visited Albert Einstein with Eugene Wigner
(and later with Edward Teller) to discuss methods of averting German
atomic bomb. Drafted, from Einstein's dictation, Einstein's August 2
letter to President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
1940 Received only $6,000 in research funds from government. With
Enrico Fermi
and Herbert Anderson, performed small-scale experiment with carbon
demonstrating that uranium-carbon system might sustain a chain
reaction. After German invasion of France, proposal for secrecy
finally generally accepted by fellow scientists. In November, with
Enrico Fermi, finally employed on government defense contract.
1941 With minimal government support, personally arranged for the
industrial
production of pure graphite and uranium NECESSARY for a reactor.
1942 Moved to Chicago to begin employment at University of Chicago
"Metallurgical Laboratory." Continued procuring pure graphite and
uranium and
designed reactor cooling systems. Declared by General Groves, head of
newly-formed Manhattan Project, to be detriment to project who should
be
arrested and interned for duration of war. Witnessed successful
demonstration of first nuclear chain reaction December 2.
(MY COMMENT:AFTER THE US HAD
FINALLY ACCEPTED THE IDEAS OF THIS GENIUS WHICH MADE THE A_BOMB
POSSIBLE,
they kicked his butt out and robbed him of his ideas and the credit.
THe
credit is always given to Fermi WHICH IS *****!)
1943 Advised colleagues on all aspects of reactor design. Correctly
predicted
that atoms dislocated by radiation damage ("Wigner disease") could
release
stored energy exothermically (the "Szilard complication"). (Effect
caused 1957
Windscale nuclear accident in Britain.) Forced, by General Groves, to
sell his
atomic energy patent rights to the U.S. government.
1944 Proposed term "breeder" to describe reactor able to generate more
fuel than it consumed. Became increasingly concerned about potential
for post-war nuclear arms race.
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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| Title: Re: Should the US invade Israel? |
24 Feb 2004 10:02:54 PM |
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"jbarry" <jgarbuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been
prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Israel has first rights to it over the US, because members of the
Jewish nation
Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.
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| User: "jbarry" |
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25 Feb 2004 01:14:44 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message news:<O7V_b.75214$Wa.44693@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
"jbarry" <jgarbuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been
prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Israel has first rights to it over the US, because members of the
Jewish nation<
A lot of JEws think they're WASPs too. It doesn't matter what anyone of
them THINK. There is a Jewish legal system that goes back to biblical
times that decides. THe Jews are a nation-in-exile, which does not mean
they cannot be good, loyal, trustworthy citizens of whichever country
gives them refuge. Indeed JEwish law INSISTS and DEMANDS that JEws be
good citizens wherever they are given refuge and freedom. A prayer for
the president and congress is part of the liturgy. We literally pray
for the country. But that is besides the other point, that JEws are a
nation in exile awaiting a messiah to bring them back to their native
homeland. I'm not saying that every JEw THINKS that way. I'm giving you
the official position.
Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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25 Feb 2004 05:15:22 PM |
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"jbarry" <jgarbuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been
prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess
WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Israel has first rights to it over the US, because members of the
Jewish nation<
A lot of JEws think they're WASPs too. It doesn't matter what anyone of
them THINK. There is a Jewish legal system that goes back to biblical
times that decides. THe Jews are a nation-in-exile, which does not mean
they cannot be good, loyal, trustworthy citizens of whichever country
gives them refuge. Indeed JEwish law INSISTS and DEMANDS that JEws be
good citizens wherever they are given refuge and freedom. A prayer for
the president and congress is part of the liturgy. We literally pray
for the country. But that is besides the other point, that JEws are a
nation in exile awaiting a messiah to bring them back to their native
homeland. I'm not saying that every JEw THINKS that way. I'm giving you
the official position.
Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.
The Jewish law is unenforceable. Except in some aspect of Israeli law.
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| User: "JGB" |
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26 Feb 2004 11:27:30 AM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message news:<e0a%b.76380$Wa.6260@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
"jbarry" <jgarbuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.>
A lot of JEws think they're WASPs too. It doesn't matter what anyone of
them THINK. There is a Jewish legal system that goes back to biblical
times that decides. THe Jews are a nation-in-exile, which does not mean
they cannot be good, loyal, trustworthy citizens of whichever country
gives them refuge. Indeed JEwish law INSISTS and DEMANDS that JEws be
good citizens wherever they are given refuge and freedom. A prayer for
the president and congress is part of the liturgy. We literally pray
for the country. But that is besides the other point, that JEws are a
nation in exile awaiting a messiah to bring them back to their native
homeland. I'm not saying that every JEw THINKS that way. I'm giving you
the official position.
The Jewish law is unenforceable. Except in some aspect of Israeli law.<
Well, ya see what happened the last time a high priest tried to get
the blasphemy laws enforced!? We never heard the end of it, and Mel Gibson
won't let us forget it either. You can see why enforcing the Jewish
laws kind of went by the boards over the last 20 centuries or so.
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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26 Feb 2004 11:44:47 AM |
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"JGB" <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote in message
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Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.>
A lot of JEws think they're WASPs too. It doesn't matter what anyone
of
them THINK. There is a Jewish legal system that goes back to biblical
times that decides. THe Jews are a nation-in-exile, which does not
mean
they cannot be good, loyal, trustworthy citizens of whichever country
gives them refuge. Indeed JEwish law INSISTS and DEMANDS that JEws be
good citizens wherever they are given refuge and freedom. A prayer for
the president and congress is part of the liturgy. We literally pray
for the country. But that is besides the other point, that JEws are a
nation in exile awaiting a messiah to bring them back to their native
homeland. I'm not saying that every JEw THINKS that way. I'm giving
you
the official position.
The Jewish law is unenforceable. Except in some aspect of Israeli law.<
Well, ya see what happened the last time a high priest tried to get
the blasphemy laws enforced!? We never heard the end of it, and Mel Gibson
won't let us forget it either. You can see why enforcing the Jewish
laws kind of went by the boards over the last 20 centuries or so.
That's only because Jews didn't control any country. Be assured the Jewish
Taliban awaits you in Israel.
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| User: "torresD" |
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26 Feb 2004 09:18:36 PM |
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USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
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| User: "Deborah Sharavi" |
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27 Feb 2004 01:48:39 PM |
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"torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<gGy%b.23652$hm4.22120@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Like Nazi-occupied Europe?
Get a life, you miserable freeloading Puerto Rican *****.
Deborah
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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27 Feb 2004 07:26:53 PM |
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"Deborah Sharavi" <dsharavi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Like Nazi-occupied Europe?
Get a life, you miserable freeloading Puerto Rican *****.
Deborah
DEBORAH!
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| User: "nameless" |
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27 Feb 2004 02:27:20 PM |
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The US has invaded Israel.
The invasion was respect, aid, love and peace.
"Deborah Sharavi" <dsharavi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Like Nazi-occupied Europe?
Get a life, you miserable freeloading Puerto Rican *****.
Deborah
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| User: "Tilly" |
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28 Feb 2004 08:33:17 PM |
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torresD wrote:
USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Why the hell are you living in the US then Torres?
Why don't you go home if you hate it so much?
Alternatively Palestine would love to have you.They might even buy you a one
way fare.
Tilly
Tilly
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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28 Feb 2004 08:46:19 PM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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torresD wrote:
USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Why the hell are you living in the US then Torres?
Why don't you go home if you hate it so much?
Alternatively Palestine would love to have you.They might even buy you a
one
way fare.
Tilly
Native born Americans say the same as Torres
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| User: "" |
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29 Feb 2004 10:06:27 AM |
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Well, goes to show that there are a lot of stupid and gullible "native born"
Americans, mostly the lazy, freeloading leftists who will vote for whoever
promises the most taxpayer paid handouts so they can sit on their dead
butts.
Isreal is a very responsible country which has done nothing save defend
itself from murderous, religous cults who would destroy the country and
murder all it's citizens.
"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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torresD wrote:
USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Why the hell are you living in the US then Torres?
Why don't you go home if you hate it so much?
Alternatively Palestine would love to have you.They might even buy you a
one
way fare.
Tilly
Native born Americans say the same as Torres
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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29 Feb 2004 11:47:37 AM |
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Subject: Re: Should the US invade Israel?
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Message-id: <76o0c.4112$kI1.1044@fe2.columbus.rr.com>
Isreal is a very responsible country which has done nothing save defend
itself from murderous, religous cults who would destroy the country and
murder all it's citizens.
You mean that the little thing like invading Egypt in 1956 would be nothing.
How about in 1967 Israel invaded Egypt and stated the 6 day war which ended
with Israel 300 percent bigger than before? How about the many airstrike in
other countries? You know the ones were they attack the arab nations and
complain about nuclear development while Israel has some 80 nuclear weapons?
When Israel stops taking $12,000 per citizen from the United States then you
can call us all freeloaders.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Ed" |
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28 Feb 2004 09:12:03 PM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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torresD wrote:
USA only invades countries that can't fight back and
have something the elite want to steal.
Why the hell are you living in the US then Torres?
Why don't you go home if you hate it so much?
Alternatively Palestine would love to have you.They might even buy you a
one
way fare.
I'm sure the Palestinians would be proud to supply her with a custom made
suicide belt as well.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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25 Feb 2004 06:57:30 AM |
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Subject: Re: Should the US invade Israel?
From: "Paul Abeles"
Date: 2/24/2004 11:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <O7V_b.75214$Wa.44693@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
"jbarry" <jgarbuz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" < > wrote in message
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A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been
prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Israel has first rights to it over the US, because members of the
Jewish nation
Interesting, some Jews deny the existence of a "Jewish" nation.
Some deny that they have nuclear weapons but they put a guy in jail for 20
years for talking about it. They still do not want the guy freed because they
fear that the world will not look at Israel as the little nation if they turn
out to be nuclear nightmare.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "jbarry" |
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24 Feb 2004 08:47:09 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message news:<VsN_b.74741$Wa.32256@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?<
Only the JEwish state should have that privelege since it was a Jewish
scientist, Leo Szilard, patented the method of controlled fission and
handed it
over to the British Admiralty back in the late 1930s for safekeeping.
The US took those patents. If nukes were a marketable commodity,
Szilard
would have had 18 years of patent protection on it. While others did
it,
he was the first to have it patented.
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| User: "ahh" |
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24 Feb 2004 07:59:53 PM |
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It all has to do with increasing chances of survival of the human society as
we know it. Of course its not fair but who gives a crap about fair when you
can possibly prolong the life the human species.
Our government and other governments who have nuclear weapons will do their
best to ensure others don't get them. The less there is the better our
chances. And NO.... I don't expect any government to give them up. From a
government security standpoint it makes too much sense to have them.
In politics you just do your best to achieve the results and sometimes you
have to speak garbage and I'm sure every nation knows trying to keep other
nations from having nuclear weapons is unfair but nobody really cares. This
is politics! Not science.
"Paul Abeles" <abc@abc.com> wrote in message
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A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been
prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?
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| User: "Lev Lafayette" |
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25 Feb 2004 06:15:24 PM |
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One could argue the US already has invaded Israel, or at least the bit
of land which we call Israel.
I often get this disturbing feeling that the United States uses Jews
as cannon-fodder to further their "national interests" in the Middle
East.
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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25 Feb 2004 06:28:43 PM |
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"Lev Lafayette" <lev_lafayette@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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One could argue the US already has invaded Israel, or at least the bit
of land which we call Israel.
I often get this disturbing feeling that the United States uses Jews
as cannon-fodder to further their "national interests" in the Middle
East.
USS Israel?
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| User: "torresD" |
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25 Feb 2004 06:31:43 PM |
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"Lev Lafayette" <lev_lafayette@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:95670408.0402251615.6d9cf536@posting.google.com...
One could argue the US already has invaded Israel, or at least the bit
of land which we call Israel.
I often get this disturbing feeling that the United States uses Jews
as cannon-fodder to further their "national interests" in the Middle
East.
Well we invaded Iraq, because Wolfowitz, Perle,
said that Saddam had WMD, well according
to an article published in haaretz, Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
www.haaretz.com
Last Update: 24/02/2004 03:55
New book claims Israel possesses 82 nuclear warheads
By Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent
A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads, a figure which is substantially lower than previous estimates of
about 200 nuclear devices.
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| User: "Deborah Sharavi" |
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26 Feb 2004 03:24:30 PM |
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"Lev Lafayette" <lev_lafayette@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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One could argue the US already has invaded Israel, or at least the
bit
of land which we call Israel.
Certainly the US has aleady "invaded" Israel.
I often get this disturbing feeling that the United States uses Jews
as cannon-fodder to further their "national interests" in the Middle
East.
Not really, but you're on the right track. Note how much military
power we have in and around the ME oil states, then consider how much
we have invested in Israel. Note, also, the following:
"Undoubtedly there was this steady pressure from some
twelve Jewish organizations to keep the United States
in support of Israel. There was a foreign policy reason,
however, for the same thing. We recognized if American
support for Israel seemed to falter, the Arab price
[for oil] would go up and they would wind up demanding
the extinction of Israel."
- Dean Rusk, quoted in Let Us Begin Anew: A History of
the Kennedy Presidency, G.S and D.H. Strober, p 226
"We wanted Israel to have a military capacity to be able
to defend itself without the introduction of U.S. forces,
and so we sold Israel a fair amount of arms, including some
sophisticated arms to put them in a position to fend off any
Arab attacks. That of course upset the Arabs, but again, had
we not done so, the Arab price would have gone through the
ceiling. Their demands would have been outrageous."
- Rusk, Strober, p 228
We currently maintain a military prescence in Saudia,
Jordan, Kuwait, and the Gulf. IMO, Israel is more cost
effective for us. Israel is also useful when we need
something done, but don't necessarily want to do it
ourselves, in case we touch off the touchy Arabs, so
we have Israel do it and take the flak. Osiraq comes
to mind.
"torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<P7b%b.20532$W74.15208@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Well we invaded Iraq, because Wolfowitz, Perle,
said that Saddam had WMD, well according
to an article published in haaretz, Israel has 82 nuclear
warheads.
<yawn> Israel's nuclear capability wasn't news when we went to defcon
2 in October 1973, in response to the Soviet alert, and Israel's
nuclear capability it is not now news. Neither is it news that Torres
has obviously been hitting her crack pipe again.
Deborah
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26 Feb 2004 05:58:53 PM |
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In article <3cf157c1.0402261324.120642b5@posting.google.com>,
(Deborah Sharavi) wrote:
in support of Israel.
and then g adds;
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/52/articles/jewish.html
"If I can not dance, I want no part in your revolution." Emma Goldman
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25 Feb 2004 07:44:54 PM |
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Subject: Re: Should the US invade Israel?
From: (Lev Lafayette)
Date: 2/25/2004 7:15 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <95670408.0402251615.6d9cf536@posting.google.com>
One could argue the US already has invaded Israel, or at least the bit
of land which we call Israel.
I often get this disturbing feeling that the United States uses Jews
as cannon-fodder to further their "national interests" in the Middle
East.
Me Think that you are wrong. It would appear that the facts are 180 degree
different. It was many different jews that pushed for the Iraq war.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Neville Duguid" |
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24 Feb 2004 07:27:06 PM |
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Paul Abeles <abc@abc.com> wrote:
A book recently published in the U.S. claims Israel has 82 nuclear warheads.
The classified assessment quoted in the book was said to have been prepared
by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency.
Personally I believe that Israel is perfectly entitled to possess WMD's.
Why should only the US and the others have that privilege?
Like Iraq, for instance? The possibility that they *might* be
*considering* it was used as ustification for invading Iraq. Imagine the
furore if they had found even one WMD as they are now called.
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