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| Title: Re: Stop this Scewing around, GIVE Mexicans citizenship NOW |
17 May 2007 01:32:27 PM |
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On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship, any penalties would be
wrong. They have paid the price already.
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| User: "K O D I A KŪ" |
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17 May 2007 01:48:48 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179426747.627020.138380@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals and deserve citizenship,
If they're here demanding amnesty then they broke the fucking law which
makes them criminals. Stand in line and get a fucking bus token like the
rest of us.
[- Thread Closed -]
- KODIAK
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| User: "AnAmericanCitizen" |
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17 May 2007 04:26:54 PM |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 13:48:48 -0500, "K O D I A KŪ" <dx@dgd.net> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179426747.627020.138380@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals and deserve citizenship,
If they're here demanding amnesty then they broke the fucking law which
makes them criminals. Stand in line and get a fucking bus token like the
rest of us.
[- Thread Closed -]
- KODIAK
Only in America can illegal aliens march enmasse protesting
for rights they do not have.
Not being legal means they have no rights to demand
anything of us.....Thoughts from Around America
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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| Title: Re: Stop this Scewing around, GIVE Mexicans citizenship NOW |
18 May 2007 02:01:28 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179426747.627020.138380@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals and deserve citizenship
They already citizenship - they're MEXICANS.
NOBODY, absolutely nobody "deserves" citizenship in another country. NO
country operates immigration like that.
they have earned the right for full citizenship
By criminally invading another country?
any penalties would be wrong.
So you think crime should rewarded?
They have paid the price already.
They haven't paid anything. Its NOT our fault they were born in a fucked
country.
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| User: "M_P" |
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17 May 2007 01:36:18 PM |
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On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
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| User: "The Vicar" |
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| Title: Re: Stop this Scewing around, GIVE Mexicans citizenship NOW |
17 May 2007 04:07:25 PM |
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"M_P" <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179426978.591639.39750@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
I think sneaking across the border is an effective intelligence test. I
believe that people born here shouldnt be automatic citizens, we should all
have to perform feats of strength to prove our worthiness or it's of to
Canada.
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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| Title: Re: Stop this Scewing around, GIVE Mexicans citizenship NOW |
17 May 2007 04:11:20 PM |
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On May 17, 4:07 pm, "The Vicar" <whiney.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
"M_P" <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179426978.591639.39750@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
I think sneaking across the border is an effective intelligence test. I
believe that people born here shouldn't be automatic citizens, we should all
have to perform feats of strength to prove our worthiness or it's off to
Canada.
Vicar:
You are hereby nominated for the best Usenet post of the month award.
LOL
-Ramon
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: Stop this Scewing around, GIVE illegals the boot NOW |
17 May 2007 04:17:04 PM |
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On May 17, 4:07 pm, "The Vicar" <whiney.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think sneaking across the border is an effective intelligence test.
Sure, it qualifies you to sneak into all sorts of places. Just doing
the burglary Americans won't do ....
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| User: "Steely from Yokohama" |
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17 May 2007 04:26:20 PM |
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On 17 May 2007 14:17:04 -0700, M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:07 pm, "The Vicar" <whiney.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think sneaking across the border is an effective intelligence test.
Sure, it qualifies you to sneak into all sorts of places. Just doing
the burglary Americans won't do ....
Actually, it isn't an effective intelligence test. Animals sneak into,
over, and out of places constantly. Think it used to be called "animal
cunning", something like that.
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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17 May 2007 04:38:01 PM |
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On May 17, 2:26 pm, Steely from Yokohama <was-hoy-
pa...@postamerica.net> wrote:
On 17 May 2007 14:17:04 -0700, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:07 pm, "The Vicar" <whiney.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think sneaking across the border is an effective intelligence test.
Sure, it qualifies you to sneak into all sorts of places. Just doing
the burglary Americans won't do ....
Actually, it isn't an effective intelligence test. Animals sneak into,
over, and out of places constantly. Think it used to be called "animal
cunning", something like that.
You people are a sorry bunch, no class, nothing.
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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17 May 2007 04:44:37 PM |
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On May 17, 4:26 pm, Steely from Yokohama <was-hoy-
pa...@postamerica.net> wrote:
Actually, it isn't an effective intelligence test. Animals sneak into,
over, and out of places constantly. Think it used to be called "animal
cunning", something like that.
And I suppose those animals create an "Animal Caucus", an "US Animal
Chamber of Commerce", get head first into lobbying, and have the
president and congress change the laws of the land on behalf of those
"animals".
And I thought the GreenPeace folks were great lobbyists. They have to
borrow a page from the notebook of these "animals".
-Ramon
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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17 May 2007 01:45:35 PM |
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On May 17, 11:36 am, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
If you equate misdemeanors like minor traffic
violations, spitting, jaywalking, I suppose we
are all "criminals" in your view. That is not
the case though, we are not criminals and that
is the same with Mexicans crossing the southern
border which is considered a misdemeanor.
Besides we invited them over, and they have
paid the price for years maybe decades. They
have paid the price with all the abuse, low wages,
living in the shadows, ect ect. The abuses Mexicans
endure is endless, and to make them pay further would
be unjust.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
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| User: "Ben Turner" |
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17 May 2007 02:00:38 PM |
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American Patriot wrote:
If you equate misdemeanors like minor traffic
violations, spitting, jaywalking, I suppose we
are all "criminals" in your view. That is not
the case though, we are not criminals and that
is the same with Mexicans crossing the southern
border which is considered a misdemeanor.
Besides we invited them over, and they have
paid the price for years maybe decades. They
have paid the price with all the abuse, low wages,
living in the shadows, ect ect. The abuses Mexicans
endure is endless, and to make them pay further would
be unjust.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
Tell you what AP, why don't you go down to your local hospital and volunteer
to pay some of the illegal's unpaid medical bills?? How about you going
down to your state treasury and offer to pay for the education of some of
these illegal's children??
What this amounts to is that taxpayers are subsidizing cheap Mexican labor
to business. It's just a method of shifting the costs around in our
society. But hey, I just know *you* personally will stand up and put your
own money where your mouth is....right??
What do you mean "NO"? Hmmmm. That's what I thought.
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| User: "M_P" |
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17 May 2007 01:54:27 PM |
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On May 17, 1:45 pm, American Patriot <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:36 am, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
[...] Mexicans crossing the southern
border which is considered a misdemeanor.
Prove it.
Besides we invited them over,
Prove it.
and they have
paid the price for years maybe decades. They
have paid the price with all the abuse, low wages,
living in the shadows, ect ect.
They brought low wages and living in the shadows on themselves by
sneaking in here ... not my problem.
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
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| User: "Jim C." |
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18 May 2007 11:26:34 AM |
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This American Patriot is NOT at all.
It's a sockpuppet of a well know troll.
If you feel you have to respond then that's your right, but most here have
killfiled him since responding to him only gets you nowhere anyway.
"M_P" <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179428067.452972.111370@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 1:45 pm, American Patriot <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:36 am, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
[...] Mexicans crossing the southern
border which is considered a misdemeanor.
Prove it.
Besides we invited them over,
Prove it.
and they have
paid the price for years maybe decades. They
have paid the price with all the abuse, low wages,
living in the shadows, ect ect.
They brought low wages and living in the shadows on themselves by
sneaking in here ... not my problem.
and deserve citizenship, they
have earned the right for full citizenship [...]
Nobody not born here has a "right" to citizenship. The only way to
"earn" it is to apply for it through legal channels and have your
application accepted.
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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17 May 2007 03:53:35 PM |
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On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally? Go to Ellis
Island and do a little research. You might be surprised.
-Ramon
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| User: "M_P" |
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17 May 2007 04:04:01 PM |
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On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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17 May 2007 04:06:20 PM |
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On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
-Ramon
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17 May 2007 04:10:29 PM |
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On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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| Title: Re: Stop this Screwing around, GIVE illegals citizenship NOW |
17 May 2007 04:23:44 PM |
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On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
I have a picture of some documents where this is told. I took it in
Ellis Island.
-Ramon
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| User: "Me" |
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17 May 2007 05:03:58 PM |
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On 17 May 2007 14:23:44 -0700, Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net>
wrote:
On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
I have a picture of some documents where this is told. I took it in
Ellis Island.
-Ramon
All you do in these newsgroups is spew propaganda about how we should
reward the unwanted criminal scumbag invaders, otherwise known as
illegal immigrants, by letting them stay here and rape our country.
Well, ***** you. You're a worthless traitor who should be marched back
across the border with the illegals when the time comes. And it's
coming BIG TIME!
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17 May 2007 05:12:02 PM |
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On May 17, 3:03 pm, Me <m...@my.computer> wrote:
On 17 May 2007 14:23:44 -0700, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net>
wrote:
On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
I have a picture of some documents where this is told. I took it in
Ellis Island.
-Ramon
All you do in these newsgroups is spew propaganda about how we should
reward the unwanted criminal scumbag invaders, otherwise known as
illegal immigrants, by letting them stay here and rape our country.
Well, ***** you. You're a worthless traitor who should be marched back
across the border with the illegals when the time comes. And it's
coming BIG TIME!
This is a country of laws, seems you and your
vigilante ilk don't follow said laws. You make
threats when things don't go your way, you threaten
our politicians when they don't agree with you, on
and on. Thank GOD for our country, and God bless America!
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17 May 2007 05:09:02 PM |
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On May 17, 5:03 pm, Me <m...@my.computer> wrote:
On 17 May 2007 14:23:44 -0700, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net>
wrote:
On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
I have a picture of some documents where this is told. I took it in
Ellis Island.
-Ramon
All you do in these newsgroups is spew propaganda about how we should
reward the unwanted criminal scumbag invaders, otherwise known as
illegal immigrants, by letting them stay here and rape our country.
Well, ***** you. You're a worthless traitor who should be marched back
across the border with the illegals when the time comes. And it's
coming BIG TIME!
Yawn.. yawn. Pray tell, when is this "big time" you speak of coming?
You people keep on announcing it, and nothing happens. Your
credibility is underground and I am getting pretty bored.
-Ramon
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18 May 2007 12:02:27 PM |
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On May 17, 4:23 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents. But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
unlike Mexico-USA border sneakers, and if the authorities had later
discovered what had happened they would have had every right to expel
my grandparents (notwithstanding how that would have sucked for them
and me).
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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18 May 2007 12:30:24 PM |
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On May 18, 12:02 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents.
I never claimed that. All I said was: "are you sure your ancestor's
entry was completely legal?"
But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
Without their knowledge? That's a big assumption. Are you saying that
if great-great-mom and dad had found out about the lying translator
(another big assumption, that the translator worked independently),
they would have refused to enter?
Hmm, perhaps great-mom and great-dad slipped a couple of rubles to El
Coyote, for an adequate translation? (how do you say coyote in
Russian?).
-Ramon
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| User: "M_P" |
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22 May 2007 04:40:47 PM |
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On May 18, 12:30 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
On May 18, 12:02 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents.
I never claimed that. All I said was: "are you sure your ancestor's
entry was completely legal?"
But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
Without their knowledge? That's a big assumption. [...]
Not at all ... YOU said they didn't know English, so how would they
know?
And what happened to "Nobody gives a damn about the water under the
bridge"?
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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23 May 2007 02:09:27 AM |
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On May 22, 4:40 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 18, 12:30 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
On May 18, 12:02 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents.
I never claimed that. All I said was: "are you sure your ancestor's
entry was completely legal?"
But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
Without their knowledge? That's a big assumption. [...]
Not at all ... YOU said they didn't know English,
so how would they know?
The coyote/translator also knew Russian and brokered a deal. In any
event whether the translator did it out of his big heart of asked for
a couple of rubles, we will never know for sure: which is my point
from the beginning.
Anywho... Since you are interested on the topic, I dig this for you,
M_P:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061228/news_lz1e28hogelan.html
http://tinyurl.com/2u9q4r
-Ramon
"Let he who has no sin, cast the first stone"
(or something like that)
- Some Saint who wrote in his spare time
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| User: "M_P" |
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23 May 2007 12:48:36 PM |
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On May 23, 2:09 am, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 22, 4:40 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 18, 12:30 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
On May 18, 12:02 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents.
I never claimed that. All I said was: "are you sure your ancestor's
entry was completely legal?"
But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
Without their knowledge? That's a big assumption. [...]
Not at all ... YOU said they didn't know English,
so how would they know?
The coyote/translator also knew Russian and brokered a deal. In any
event whether the translator did it out of his big heart of asked for
a couple of rubles, we will never know for sure: which is my point
from the beginning.
Bottom line: if what you suggest had happened and the authorities had
later discovered it, they would have had every right to expel my
grandparents (notwithstanding how that would have sucked for them and
me).
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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18 May 2007 12:09:38 PM |
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On May 18, 12:02 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:23 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:10 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 4:06 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 4:04 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On May 17, 3:53 pm, Ramon F Herrera <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
On May 17, 1:36 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote:> On May 17, 1:32 pm, American Patriot <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 11:17 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179425133.234623.313910@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Please stop this scewing around and give Mexicans citizenship
now..today!
They're criminals, they deserve *****.
Most Mexicans are Not criminals
Every one who snuck across the border is a criminal.
Are you sure your ancestors entered this country legally?
Yes.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Why not? Have anything beside baseless insinuations?
Ok, let's be fair, I will not leave you hanging.
There was a crucial role played in Ellis Island by the translators,
which were picked from the immigrant crowd itself. Suppose an ancestor
of mine had the ability to speak several languages, while your
ancestor did not. The translators knew what the correct answers were
to be allowed legally in, and even if your ancestor gave the wrong
answer that would make him a reject, my ancestor made the
"translation" that the government officer wanted to hear. This power
of the translator was much more common than people think. You may have
to thank a multilingual person for you being in the USA.
You have still offered no evidence that this happened to my
grandparents. But let's suppose for the sake of discussion that it
did ... so what? It would have happened without their knowledge,
unlike Mexico-USA border sneakers, and if the authorities had later
discovered what had happened they would have had every right to expel
my grandparents (notwithstanding how that would have sucked for them
and me).
Cool. Nobody gives a damn about the water under the bridge. The
important issue is that if/when the undocumented become documented, if
you want to retain your credibility, you must come to their defense
with at least the same vigor and fervor as you opposed them. After
all, your only concern was the strict legality, right?
Otherwise, I will correctly say:
"Who is the illegal now?"
-Ramon
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