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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Captain Compassion"
Date: 10 May 2007 10:52:45 AM
Object: Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature
Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar
variability, and Earth's temperature
H. B. Hammel
Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colorado, USA
G. W. Lockwood
Lowell Observatory, Flagstaff, Arizona, USA
Abstract
Long-term photometric measurements of Neptune show variations of
brightness over half a century. Seasonal change in Neptune's
atmosphere may partially explain a general rise in the long-term light
curve, but cannot explain its detailed variations. This leads us to
consider the possibility of solar-driven changes, i.e., changes
incurred by innate solar variability perhaps coupled with changing
seasonal insolation. Although correlations between Neptune's
brightness and Earth's temperature anomaly—and between Neptune and two
models of solar variability—are visually compelling, at this time they
are not statistically significant due to the limited degrees of
freedom of the various time series. Nevertheless, the striking
similarity of the temporal patterns of variation should not be ignored
simply because of low formal statistical significance. If changing
brightnesses and temperatures of two different planets are correlated,
then some planetary climate changes may be due to variations in the
solar system environment.
Received 14 November 2006; accepted 15 March 2007; published 19 April
2007.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006GL028764.shtml
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
.

User: "Server 13"

Title: Re: Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature 10 May 2007 11:54:25 AM
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:oqf6439er6r4gf7ignc0vpi0if2otvgt4o@4ax.com...

Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar
variability, and Earth's temperature

Old news. of course earth's temperature also varies from solar changes.
Temperature change - solar change = leftover change. See how that works?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=solar+observatory&btnG=Google+Search


H. B. Hammel
Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colorado, USA

G. W. Lockwood
Lowell Observatory, Flagstaff, Arizona, USA

Abstract
Long-term photometric measurements of Neptune show variations of
brightness over half a century. Seasonal change in Neptune's
atmosphere may partially explain a general rise in the long-term light
curve, but cannot explain its detailed variations. This leads us to
consider the possibility of solar-driven changes, i.e., changes
incurred by innate solar variability perhaps coupled with changing
seasonal insolation. Although correlations between Neptune's
brightness and Earth's temperature anomaly-and between Neptune and two
models of solar variability-are visually compelling, at this time they
are not statistically significant due to the limited degrees of
freedom of the various time series. Nevertheless, the striking
similarity of the temporal patterns of variation should not be ignored
simply because of low formal statistical significance. If changing
brightnesses and temperatures of two different planets are correlated,
then some planetary climate changes may be due to variations in the
solar system environment.

Received 14 November 2006; accepted 15 March 2007; published 19 April
2007.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006GL028764.shtml


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net

.
User: "Fred Goodwin, CMA"

Title: Re: Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature 14 May 2007 01:59:32 PM
On May 10, 11:54 am, "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote:

"Captain Compassion" <dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message

news:oqf6439er6r4gf7ignc0vpi0if2otvgt4o@4ax.com...

Suggestive correlations between the brightness ofNeptune, solar
variability, and Earth's temperature


Old news. of course earth's temperature also varies from solar changes.

Temperature change - solar change = leftover change. See how that works?

The way it "works" is this: anything that doesn't fit neatly into the
accepted dogma of global warming is dismissed out of hand as bad
science by denier-kooks.
.

User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature 10 May 2007 09:41:30 PM
On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:54:25 -0500, "Server 13" <its@casual.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:oqf6439er6r4gf7ignc0vpi0if2otvgt4o@4ax.com...

Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar
variability, and Earth's temperature


Old news. of course earth's temperature also varies from solar changes.

Temperature change - solar change = leftover change. See how that works?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=solar+observatory&btnG=Google+Search

I thought it only varied by the amount of CO2 put out by American
SUVs.



H. B. Hammel
Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colorado, USA

G. W. Lockwood
Lowell Observatory, Flagstaff, Arizona, USA

Abstract
Long-term photometric measurements of Neptune show variations of
brightness over half a century. Seasonal change in Neptune's
atmosphere may partially explain a general rise in the long-term light
curve, but cannot explain its detailed variations. This leads us to
consider the possibility of solar-driven changes, i.e., changes
incurred by innate solar variability perhaps coupled with changing
seasonal insolation. Although correlations between Neptune's
brightness and Earth's temperature anomaly-and between Neptune and two
models of solar variability-are visually compelling, at this time they
are not statistically significant due to the limited degrees of
freedom of the various time series. Nevertheless, the striking
similarity of the temporal patterns of variation should not be ignored
simply because of low formal statistical significance. If changing
brightnesses and temperatures of two different planets are correlated,
then some planetary climate changes may be due to variations in the
solar system environment.

Received 14 November 2006; accepted 15 March 2007; published 19 April
2007.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006GL028764.shtml


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
.


User: "SwampMidget"

Title: Re: Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature 10 May 2007 11:39:59 AM
this can't BE!
cheryl crow didn't mention any of this
.


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