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Date: 17 May 2007 09:42:48 PM
Object: "The Barbarians are Coming: How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion"
One need not agree with everything the British-born philosopher and
author of the following outstanding essay writes, but it's undeniable to
intelligent and perceptive observers that he's right on the mark on the
essentials, as was San Francisco's renowned "longshoreman-philospher" Eric
Hoffer, whose own thoughts on the "barbarians" of the 1960s Left have also
proven to be very prescient.
------------------------------------------------------
"The appearance of “terrorists” is in fact an unpleasant confirmation of
Professor Arnold Toynbee’s 1952 prediction that barbarian war bands would
attack our declining civilization. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson
offers a realistic view of our precarious predicament."
The Barbarians are Coming:
How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion
By Philip Atkinson
May 11, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=967010#
The Roman Wall
I was born in England, in the city of Newcastle-upon-Tyne which is proud of
its long history, which can easily be traced back to the period of ancient
Rome’s occupation of Britain. There are many vestiges of the occupation but
the most famous remains are those of Hadrian’s Wall. This was a stone wall
extending from the east coast to the west coast of England, built to
protect the Roman occupied country south of the wall from raids by northern
barbarians, or so I was taught. I have never questioned this explanation
until recent events have caused me to consider another purpose for
Hadrian’s Wall.
Barrier Only To Unarmed Invaders
The Roman wall would never have stopped an attacking army, unless it was
manned along its whole length. But to garrison the wall in such a fashion
would be to undermine the ability of the Roman army to confront a barbarian
host, who would invariably outnumber them. Dispersing its soldiers along an
80-mile front could not, and was not meant to, repel a mass attack, but to
overcome a problem identical to that which Western Civilization is now
facing. It was erected to stop the steady stream of migrants from the
barbarian-ruled areas entering the Roman Empire. And this was done because,
even though the barbarians entered the Empire peacefully, they did not come
to help the Roman Empire, but to exploit it. They did not want to become
citizens of Rome, but to retain their own culture within the Roman
community, which made them a liability to the Roman Empire.
Declining Culture Vulnerable To Parasites
The impact of the intrusion of an alien culture upon a failing culture is
similar to a parasitic attack suffered by any failing creature. Though the
citizens of a declining community are slowly losing their attachments to
their own community, they still feel some sense of obligation towards it.
It is their community, full of their own kind, which is their tribe, so
regardless of their growing indifference to their society’s tradition, they
still feel a concern for its welfare. Whereas migrants from alien cultures
have no such concerns; they are among strangers with a different culture.
These invaders have not come to improve their host’s society, but their
own, at the expense of their host. Hence such invading minority communities
are parasites upon their host community.
Parasitic Nature Of Invaders Initially Masked
Initially, while the invaders are present only in small numbers, they will
treat their host with care and respect. The contempt they must feel about
their host’s culture will be dissembled, along with their intention to
exploit the wealth of their host while avoiding any demands the host may
place upon them. They will naturally subscribe to those laws of the host
that carry the real threat of penalty or offer profit, but only because of
convenience, and not for respect for the notions underpinning those laws;
while all other laws of the host community will be silently treated with
contempt except in those rare instances where they match their own culture.
Incompatible Nature Of Invaders Will Eventually Be Revealed
As the invaders numbers grow so will their confidence and their own culture
will start to assert itself publicly. The invaders’ general contempt for
the culture of their host will become evident and will generate resentment
between the different cultures, but while this may fester and flare from
time to time, the host will confirm the decaying nature of its own culture
by being unable to take effective action against the invaders.
A Modern Wave Of Unarmed Invaders
In the last few decades those countries considered part of Western
Civilization have become subject to an unarmed invasion by other races and
cultures. The wealth and safety currently enjoyed by England, France,
Germany, USA, etc., have made them desirable places to live for the poor
and frightened of other countries, such as India, Pakistan, Mexico and
others. While this has been true for a long time, the barriers that
previously prevented the citizens of poor countries from migrating to the
wealthier countries have been removed. The previous firm resistance by the
citizens of the wealthier countries has been undermined by deterioration in
the character of their citizens.
Invasion Flows From Vigorous To Feeble
Once the citizens of Western Civilization were determined as well as able.
Therefore, they dominated the countries occupied by weaker cultures. These
subject countries became colonized— they were forced to adopt the language
and culture of Western Civilization— and the superior understanding of
Western civilization was promoted throughout the world, along with its
peace and wealth. However as the citizens of Western Civilization became
selfish, they lost their resolve, so the control exercised by Western
communities declined. This allowed the colonies to recover their
independence and re-assert their own culture, which inevitably obtained the
poverty and misrule, which had existed before colonialism. As Western
Civilization has abdicated its rule over its colonies, wealth and peace
have given way to poverty and anarchy. The example of the social collapse
of South Africa has been repeated all over Africa. For many citizens of
these colonies, modest means enjoyed in peace have been replaced by a
perilous poverty, and the only escape from this misery is to go to where
wealth and peace still exist, the home countries of their erstwhile
colonial rulers. The tide of influence has reversed. It is no longer
flowing from, but to, Western Civilization; and instead of peace and
wealth, it is poverty and anarchy that are now being spread.
Invasion Is Colonization
The result of this migration is inevitable. The invaders take over their
new homeland by sheer weight of numbers. The original manners, customs and
beliefs of the destination country are slowly replaced by those of their
invaders. This can be easily seen in the USA where the actual border with
Mexico is slowly moving further north every year. The culture of the white
Americans is being displaced by their mainly Hispanic invaders; peace and
wealth created by the white American culture are being replaced by poverty
and crime brought by the invaders. This represents a take-over made obvious
by the replacement of the use of the English language with Spanish. Miami
is now a Spanish-speaking city even though it is technically in America --
an English-speaking country.
Hadrian’s Wall in America
The Americans have naturally tried to halt this invasion but their efforts
are weak and ineffectual. The easiest way into America is by walking from
Mexico, where a patrolled fence has been erected as a barrier (like
Hadrian’s wall). Those Mexicans who are detected crossing the barrier are
merely returned to Mexico to try again. Those who cross undetected are
still subject to discovery but this is an unlikely fate, and the penalty is
just a return to Mexico to try again. In many cases, the enforced return
can be avoided by manipulation of the law.
Mexico now colonizing the USA
Mexico is now colonizing America and imposing its language and culture on
it. Though the Americans still have the strength of understanding to
recognize that the Hispanic invasion should be stopped, they are unable to
take the measures required to achieve this end. The very least that must be
done to halt the Hispanic invasion is the mass enslavement, or execution,
of the invaders, which must be followed by an American invasion of Mexico
to enforce American language and values upon the Mexicans. But the citizens
of the USA recoil from such ruthless violence embracing delusion instead.
They pretend that their futile defense is not folly, ignore the slow but
inevitable takeover of their country and persecute anyone who tries to
dispel their illusions. America has lost its ability to defend itself and
must eventually be overrun by people from other cultures.
Example Of American Failure Repeated
The example of the failure of the Americans to defend themselves is being
repeated by every Western country. Sharing the same lack of ruthlessness
required to repel their invaders these countries now find themselves no
longer a single community but a group of different communities of varying
races and cultures. Even Australia, which is isolated by vast areas of
ocean, is being subject to invasion, and while no single Australian city
has yet been taken over, there are now parts of these cities that mimic the
original homes of their invaders.
This same failure of the Western countries to defend themselves reveals how
the powerful understanding once created by Western Civilization has already
dissolved. The two awful signs of impending communal death -- the
extinction of genius and the loss of the military spirit -- are there for
all to see. The mainly selfish citizens that now comprise Western
Civilization may still possess the technology discovered by genius, but
they no longer have the wit or the resolution to employ it.
Colonize Or Be Colonized
The simple truth that different cultures are irreconcilable, and that one
must dominate the others, means that the now impotent cultures of Western
Civilization will be overrun. How a particular culture dominates, or
attempts to dominate, other cultures, naturally reflects the character of
that culture. The fact that the Americans refrain from killing their
enemies does not mean that their enemies will refrain from killing them, as
America was recently reminded. On September 11, 2001, around 3,000 people
were murdered in a barbarian raid upon the USA, when the fanatical
followers of an Islamic sect deliberately crashed hi-jacked passenger
planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The Barbarians Are Coming—With A New Dark Age
The World Trade Center attack is confirmation of Arnold Toynbee’s claim
that the decline of a civilization means the appearance of Barbarian
war-bands. And it is clear that, in one way or another, it is only a matter
of time before the increasing senility of the countries that make up the
Western world, will see them succumb to invaders. The result will be the
final extinction of Western Civilization, along with its wealth and power,
and a return to the Dark Ages: a time when there is no human community
anywhere that is sane.
# #
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson is the
British born founder of ourcivilization.com and author of A Study of Our
Decline. He is a philosopher specializing in issues concerning the
preservation of Western Civilization. Mr. Atkinson receives mail at
rpa@ourcivilisation.com.
© 2003-2007 FamilySecurityMatters.org All Rights Reserved
If you are a reporter or producer who is interested in receiving more
information about this writer or this article, please email your request to
COY7m@aol.com.
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"“All great truths begin as heresies.”
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
.

User: "Roger"

Title: Re: "The Barbarians are Coming: How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion" 17 May 2007 11:35:53 PM
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1s46qnzwt4e4p.1sx3jbz1eba2f$.dlg@40tude.net...

One need not agree with everything the British-born philosopher and
author of the following outstanding essay writes, but it's undeniable to
intelligent and perceptive observers that he's right on the mark on the
essentials, as was San Francisco's renowned "longshoreman-philospher" Eric
Hoffer, whose own thoughts on the "barbarians" of the 1960s Left have also
proven to be very prescient.
------------------------------------------------------
"The appearance of "terrorists" is in fact an unpleasant confirmation of
Professor Arnold Toynbee's 1952 prediction that barbarian war bands would
attack our declining civilization. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson
offers a realistic view of our precarious predicament."

The Barbarians are Coming:
How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion

By Philip Atkinson

From http://www.ourcivilisation.com/author.htm
As an adult it is easy to understand why the other boys in the street hated
me, I was from a different class. My father was an honest, educated man, who
didn't smoke or drink, and would never dream of striking his wife, but he
was surrounded by drunks, thieves and wife-beaters. Our family enjoyed
money, comfort and stability, unlike many of those around us. Not only were
we the only family in the street to have a car, but also we were the only
family in the whole suburb to have tea on the lawn. Everything about us was
different, and we were naturally resented. While the neighbouring adults
never confronted my father, their children were delighted to bully his
children. My siblings and myself became social half-castes, accepted by no
class and despised by all. The result in my case was an initial bitter
resentment of my community, along with the traditional notions that I should
pursue university and a career; so I dropped out of school to take a job as
a bus conductor. And to escape this dead-end job, I emigrated, arriving in
Australia in 1969, aged 22, with a pregnant wife, two small children, 30
pounds sterling, no job and no qualifications other than an incomplete
public school education.

May 11, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=967010#

The Roman Wall

I was born in England, in the city of Newcastle-upon-Tyne which is proud
of
its long history, which can easily be traced back to the period of ancient
Rome's occupation of Britain. There are many vestiges of the occupation
but
the most famous remains are those of Hadrian's Wall. This was a stone wall
extending from the east coast to the west coast of England, built to
protect the Roman occupied country south of the wall from raids by
northern
barbarians, or so I was taught. I have never questioned this explanation
until recent events have caused me to consider another purpose for
Hadrian's Wall.

Barrier Only To Unarmed Invaders

The Roman wall would never have stopped an attacking army, unless it was
manned along its whole length. But to garrison the wall in such a fashion
would be to undermine the ability of the Roman army to confront a
barbarian
host, who would invariably outnumber them. Dispersing its soldiers along
an
80-mile front could not, and was not meant to, repel a mass attack, but to
overcome a problem identical to that which Western Civilization is now
facing. It was erected to stop the steady stream of migrants from the
barbarian-ruled areas entering the Roman Empire. And this was done
because,
even though the barbarians entered the Empire peacefully, they did not
come
to help the Roman Empire, but to exploit it. They did not want to become
citizens of Rome, but to retain their own culture within the Roman
community, which made them a liability to the Roman Empire.

Declining Culture Vulnerable To Parasites

The impact of the intrusion of an alien culture upon a failing culture is
similar to a parasitic attack suffered by any failing creature. Though the
citizens of a declining community are slowly losing their attachments to
their own community, they still feel some sense of obligation towards it.
It is their community, full of their own kind, which is their tribe, so
regardless of their growing indifference to their society's tradition,
they
still feel a concern for its welfare. Whereas migrants from alien cultures
have no such concerns; they are among strangers with a different culture.
These invaders have not come to improve their host's society, but their
own, at the expense of their host. Hence such invading minority
communities
are parasites upon their host community.

Parasitic Nature Of Invaders Initially Masked

Initially, while the invaders are present only in small numbers, they will
treat their host with care and respect. The contempt they must feel about
their host's culture will be dissembled, along with their intention to
exploit the wealth of their host while avoiding any demands the host may
place upon them. They will naturally subscribe to those laws of the host
that carry the real threat of penalty or offer profit, but only because of
convenience, and not for respect for the notions underpinning those laws;
while all other laws of the host community will be silently treated with
contempt except in those rare instances where they match their own
culture.
Incompatible Nature Of Invaders Will Eventually Be Revealed
As the invaders numbers grow so will their confidence and their own
culture
will start to assert itself publicly. The invaders' general contempt for
the culture of their host will become evident and will generate resentment
between the different cultures, but while this may fester and flare from
time to time, the host will confirm the decaying nature of its own culture
by being unable to take effective action against the invaders.

A Modern Wave Of Unarmed Invaders

In the last few decades those countries considered part of Western
Civilization have become subject to an unarmed invasion by other races and
cultures. The wealth and safety currently enjoyed by England, France,
Germany, USA, etc., have made them desirable places to live for the poor
and frightened of other countries, such as India, Pakistan, Mexico and
others. While this has been true for a long time, the barriers that
previously prevented the citizens of poor countries from migrating to the
wealthier countries have been removed. The previous firm resistance by the
citizens of the wealthier countries has been undermined by deterioration
in
the character of their citizens.

Invasion Flows From Vigorous To Feeble

Once the citizens of Western Civilization were determined as well as able.
Therefore, they dominated the countries occupied by weaker cultures. These
subject countries became colonized- they were forced to adopt the language
and culture of Western Civilization- and the superior understanding of
Western civilization was promoted throughout the world, along with its
peace and wealth. However as the citizens of Western Civilization became
selfish, they lost their resolve, so the control exercised by Western
communities declined. This allowed the colonies to recover their
independence and re-assert their own culture, which inevitably obtained
the
poverty and misrule, which had existed before colonialism. As Western
Civilization has abdicated its rule over its colonies, wealth and peace
have given way to poverty and anarchy. The example of the social collapse
of South Africa has been repeated all over Africa. For many citizens of
these colonies, modest means enjoyed in peace have been replaced by a
perilous poverty, and the only escape from this misery is to go to where
wealth and peace still exist, the home countries of their erstwhile
colonial rulers. The tide of influence has reversed. It is no longer
flowing from, but to, Western Civilization; and instead of peace and
wealth, it is poverty and anarchy that are now being spread.

Invasion Is Colonization

The result of this migration is inevitable. The invaders take over their
new homeland by sheer weight of numbers. The original manners, customs and
beliefs of the destination country are slowly replaced by those of their
invaders. This can be easily seen in the USA where the actual border with
Mexico is slowly moving further north every year. The culture of the white
Americans is being displaced by their mainly Hispanic invaders; peace and
wealth created by the white American culture are being replaced by poverty
and crime brought by the invaders. This represents a take-over made
obvious
by the replacement of the use of the English language with Spanish. Miami
is now a Spanish-speaking city even though it is technically in America --
an English-speaking country.

Hadrian's Wall in America

The Americans have naturally tried to halt this invasion but their efforts
are weak and ineffectual. The easiest way into America is by walking from
Mexico, where a patrolled fence has been erected as a barrier (like
Hadrian's wall). Those Mexicans who are detected crossing the barrier are
merely returned to Mexico to try again. Those who cross undetected are
still subject to discovery but this is an unlikely fate, and the penalty
is
just a return to Mexico to try again. In many cases, the enforced return
can be avoided by manipulation of the law.

Mexico now colonizing the USA

Mexico is now colonizing America and imposing its language and culture on
it. Though the Americans still have the strength of understanding to
recognize that the Hispanic invasion should be stopped, they are unable to
take the measures required to achieve this end. The very least that must
be
done to halt the Hispanic invasion is the mass enslavement, or execution,
of the invaders, which must be followed by an American invasion of Mexico
to enforce American language and values upon the Mexicans. But the
citizens
of the USA recoil from such ruthless violence embracing delusion instead.
They pretend that their futile defense is not folly, ignore the slow but
inevitable takeover of their country and persecute anyone who tries to
dispel their illusions. America has lost its ability to defend itself and
must eventually be overrun by people from other cultures.

Example Of American Failure Repeated

The example of the failure of the Americans to defend themselves is being
repeated by every Western country. Sharing the same lack of ruthlessness
required to repel their invaders these countries now find themselves no
longer a single community but a group of different communities of varying
races and cultures. Even Australia, which is isolated by vast areas of
ocean, is being subject to invasion, and while no single Australian city
has yet been taken over, there are now parts of these cities that mimic
the
original homes of their invaders.

This same failure of the Western countries to defend themselves reveals
how
the powerful understanding once created by Western Civilization has
already
dissolved. The two awful signs of impending communal death -- the
extinction of genius and the loss of the military spirit -- are there for
all to see. The mainly selfish citizens that now comprise Western
Civilization may still possess the technology discovered by genius, but
they no longer have the wit or the resolution to employ it.

Colonize Or Be Colonized

The simple truth that different cultures are irreconcilable, and that one
must dominate the others, means that the now impotent cultures of Western
Civilization will be overrun. How a particular culture dominates, or
attempts to dominate, other cultures, naturally reflects the character of
that culture. The fact that the Americans refrain from killing their
enemies does not mean that their enemies will refrain from killing them,
as
America was recently reminded. On September 11, 2001, around 3,000 people
were murdered in a barbarian raid upon the USA, when the fanatical
followers of an Islamic sect deliberately crashed hi-jacked passenger
planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The Barbarians Are Coming-With A New Dark Age

The World Trade Center attack is confirmation of Arnold Toynbee's claim
that the decline of a civilization means the appearance of Barbarian
war-bands. And it is clear that, in one way or another, it is only a
matter
of time before the increasing senility of the countries that make up the
Western world, will see them succumb to invaders. The result will be the
final extinction of Western Civilization, along with its wealth and power,
and a return to the Dark Ages: a time when there is no human community
anywhere that is sane.

# #

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson is the
British born founder of ourcivilization.com and author of A Study of Our
Decline. He is a philosopher specializing in issues concerning the
preservation of Western Civilization. Mr. Atkinson receives mail at
rpa@ourcivilisation.com.
2003-2007 FamilySecurityMatters.org All Rights Reserved
If you are a reporter or producer who is interested in receiving more
information about this writer or this article, please email your request
to
COY7m@aol.com.
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:

"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")

-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the
USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
"How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Excerpt:

"General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."

"Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.

"America 'was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,' Mr. Brownell said. 'When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.'"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens
on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."

-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams

""All great truths begin as heresies."

-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens

.
User: "Cultural Supremacist"

Title: Re: "The Barbarians are Coming: How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion" 18 May 2007 05:25:20 PM
In article <464d2d21$0$2336$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1s46qnzwt4e4p.1sx3jbz1eba2f$.dlg@40tude.net...

One need not agree with everything the British-born philosopher and
author of the following outstanding essay writes, but it's undeniable to
intelligent and perceptive observers that he's right on the mark on the
essentials, as was San Francisco's renowned "longshoreman-philospher" Eric
Hoffer, whose own thoughts on the "barbarians" of the 1960s Left have also
proven to be very prescient.
------------------------------------------------------
"The appearance of "terrorists" is in fact an unpleasant confirmation of
Professor Arnold Toynbee's 1952 prediction that barbarian war bands would
attack our declining civilization. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson
offers a realistic view of our precarious predicament."

The Barbarians are Coming:
How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion

By Philip Atkinson


From http://www.ourcivilisation.com/author.htm

As an adult it is easy to understand why the other boys in the street hated
me, I was from a different class. My father was an honest, educated man, who
didn't smoke or drink, and would never dream of striking his wife, but he
was surrounded by drunks, thieves and wife-beaters. Our family enjoyed
money, comfort and stability, unlike many of those around us. Not only were
we the only family in the street to have a car, but also we were the only
family in the whole suburb to have tea on the lawn. Everything about us was
different, and we were naturally resented. While the neighbouring adults
never confronted my father, their children were delighted to bully his
children. My siblings and myself became social half-castes, accepted by no
class and despised by all. The result in my case was an initial bitter
resentment of my community, along with the traditional notions that I should
pursue university and a career; so I dropped out of school to take a job as
a bus conductor. And to escape this dead-end job, I emigrated, arriving in
Australia in 1969, aged 22, with a pregnant wife, two small children, 30
pounds sterling, no job and no qualifications other than an incomplete
public school education.

He sounds like an honest, upstanding fellow.
CS



May 11, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=967010#

The Roman Wall

I was born in England, in the city of Newcastle-upon-Tyne which is proud
of
its long history, which can easily be traced back to the period of ancient
Rome's occupation of Britain. There are many vestiges of the occupation
but
the most famous remains are those of Hadrian's Wall. This was a stone wall
extending from the east coast to the west coast of England, built to
protect the Roman occupied country south of the wall from raids by
northern
barbarians, or so I was taught. I have never questioned this explanation
until recent events have caused me to consider another purpose for
Hadrian's Wall.

Barrier Only To Unarmed Invaders

The Roman wall would never have stopped an attacking army, unless it was
manned along its whole length. But to garrison the wall in such a fashion
would be to undermine the ability of the Roman army to confront a
barbarian
host, who would invariably outnumber them. Dispersing its soldiers along
an
80-mile front could not, and was not meant to, repel a mass attack, but to
overcome a problem identical to that which Western Civilization is now
facing. It was erected to stop the steady stream of migrants from the
barbarian-ruled areas entering the Roman Empire. And this was done
because,
even though the barbarians entered the Empire peacefully, they did not
come
to help the Roman Empire, but to exploit it. They did not want to become
citizens of Rome, but to retain their own culture within the Roman
community, which made them a liability to the Roman Empire.

Declining Culture Vulnerable To Parasites

The impact of the intrusion of an alien culture upon a failing culture is
similar to a parasitic attack suffered by any failing creature. Though the
citizens of a declining community are slowly losing their attachments to
their own community, they still feel some sense of obligation towards it.
It is their community, full of their own kind, which is their tribe, so
regardless of their growing indifference to their society's tradition,
they
still feel a concern for its welfare. Whereas migrants from alien cultures
have no such concerns; they are among strangers with a different culture.
These invaders have not come to improve their host's society, but their
own, at the expense of their host. Hence such invading minority
communities
are parasites upon their host community.

Parasitic Nature Of Invaders Initially Masked

Initially, while the invaders are present only in small numbers, they will
treat their host with care and respect. The contempt they must feel about
their host's culture will be dissembled, along with their intention to
exploit the wealth of their host while avoiding any demands the host may
place upon them. They will naturally subscribe to those laws of the host
that carry the real threat of penalty or offer profit, but only because of
convenience, and not for respect for the notions underpinning those laws;
while all other laws of the host community will be silently treated with
contempt except in those rare instances where they match their own
culture.
Incompatible Nature Of Invaders Will Eventually Be Revealed
As the invaders numbers grow so will their confidence and their own
culture
will start to assert itself publicly. The invaders' general contempt for
the culture of their host will become evident and will generate resentment
between the different cultures, but while this may fester and flare from
time to time, the host will confirm the decaying nature of its own culture
by being unable to take effective action against the invaders.

A Modern Wave Of Unarmed Invaders

In the last few decades those countries considered part of Western
Civilization have become subject to an unarmed invasion by other races and
cultures. The wealth and safety currently enjoyed by England, France,
Germany, USA, etc., have made them desirable places to live for the poor
and frightened of other countries, such as India, Pakistan, Mexico and
others. While this has been true for a long time, the barriers that
previously prevented the citizens of poor countries from migrating to the
wealthier countries have been removed. The previous firm resistance by the
citizens of the wealthier countries has been undermined by deterioration
in
the character of their citizens.

Invasion Flows From Vigorous To Feeble

Once the citizens of Western Civilization were determined as well as able.
Therefore, they dominated the countries occupied by weaker cultures. These
subject countries became colonized- they were forced to adopt the language
and culture of Western Civilization- and the superior understanding of
Western civilization was promoted throughout the world, along with its
peace and wealth. However as the citizens of Western Civilization became
selfish, they lost their resolve, so the control exercised by Western
communities declined. This allowed the colonies to recover their
independence and re-assert their own culture, which inevitably obtained
the
poverty and misrule, which had existed before colonialism. As Western
Civilization has abdicated its rule over its colonies, wealth and peace
have given way to poverty and anarchy. The example of the social collapse
of South Africa has been repeated all over Africa. For many citizens of
these colonies, modest means enjoyed in peace have been replaced by a
perilous poverty, and the only escape from this misery is to go to where
wealth and peace still exist, the home countries of their erstwhile
colonial rulers. The tide of influence has reversed. It is no longer
flowing from, but to, Western Civilization; and instead of peace and
wealth, it is poverty and anarchy that are now being spread.

Invasion Is Colonization

The result of this migration is inevitable. The invaders take over their
new homeland by sheer weight of numbers. The original manners, customs and
beliefs of the destination country are slowly replaced by those of their
invaders. This can be easily seen in the USA where the actual border with
Mexico is slowly moving further north every year. The culture of the white
Americans is being displaced by their mainly Hispanic invaders; peace and
wealth created by the white American culture are being replaced by poverty
and crime brought by the invaders. This represents a take-over made
obvious
by the replacement of the use of the English language with Spanish. Miami
is now a Spanish-speaking city even though it is technically in America --
an English-speaking country.

Hadrian's Wall in America

The Americans have naturally tried to halt this invasion but their efforts
are weak and ineffectual. The easiest way into America is by walking from
Mexico, where a patrolled fence has been erected as a barrier (like
Hadrian's wall). Those Mexicans who are detected crossing the barrier are
merely returned to Mexico to try again. Those who cross undetected are
still subject to discovery but this is an unlikely fate, and the penalty
is
just a return to Mexico to try again. In many cases, the enforced return
can be avoided by manipulation of the law.

Mexico now colonizing the USA

Mexico is now colonizing America and imposing its language and culture on
it. Though the Americans still have the strength of understanding to
recognize that the Hispanic invasion should be stopped, they are unable to
take the measures required to achieve this end. The very least that must
be
done to halt the Hispanic invasion is the mass enslavement, or execution,
of the invaders, which must be followed by an American invasion of Mexico
to enforce American language and values upon the Mexicans. But the
citizens
of the USA recoil from such ruthless violence embracing delusion instead.
They pretend that their futile defense is not folly, ignore the slow but
inevitable takeover of their country and persecute anyone who tries to
dispel their illusions. America has lost its ability to defend itself and
must eventually be overrun by people from other cultures.

Example Of American Failure Repeated

The example of the failure of the Americans to defend themselves is being
repeated by every Western country. Sharing the same lack of ruthlessness
required to repel their invaders these countries now find themselves no
longer a single community but a group of different communities of varying
races and cultures. Even Australia, which is isolated by vast areas of
ocean, is being subject to invasion, and while no single Australian city
has yet been taken over, there are now parts of these cities that mimic
the
original homes of their invaders.

This same failure of the Western countries to defend themselves reveals
how
the powerful understanding once created by Western Civilization has
already
dissolved. The two awful signs of impending communal death -- the
extinction of genius and the loss of the military spirit -- are there for
all to see. The mainly selfish citizens that now comprise Western
Civilization may still possess the technology discovered by genius, but
they no longer have the wit or the resolution to employ it.

Colonize Or Be Colonized

The simple truth that different cultures are irreconcilable, and that one
must dominate the others, means that the now impotent cultures of Western
Civilization will be overrun. How a particular culture dominates, or
attempts to dominate, other cultures, naturally reflects the character of
that culture. The fact that the Americans refrain from killing their
enemies does not mean that their enemies will refrain from killing them,
as
America was recently reminded. On September 11, 2001, around 3,000 people
were murdered in a barbarian raid upon the USA, when the fanatical
followers of an Islamic sect deliberately crashed hi-jacked passenger
planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The Barbarians Are Coming-With A New Dark Age

The World Trade Center attack is confirmation of Arnold Toynbee's claim
that the decline of a civilization means the appearance of Barbarian
war-bands. And it is clear that, in one way or another, it is only a
matter
of time before the increasing senility of the countries that make up the
Western world, will see them succumb to invaders. The result will be the
final extinction of Western Civilization, along with its wealth and power,
and a return to the Dark Ages: a time when there is no human community
anywhere that is sane.

# #

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson is the
British born founder of ourcivilization.com and author of A Study of Our
Decline. He is a philosopher specializing in issues concerning the
preservation of Western Civilization. Mr. Atkinson receives mail at
rpa@ourcivilisation.com.
2003-2007 FamilySecurityMatters.org All Rights Reserved
If you are a reporter or producer who is interested in receiving more
information about this writer or this article, please email your request
to
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*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:

"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")

-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the
USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
"How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Excerpt:

"General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."

"Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.

"America 'was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,' Mr. Brownell said. 'When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.'"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens
on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."

-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams

""All great truths begin as heresies."

-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens

.


User: "GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer"

Title: Re: "The Barbarians are Coming: How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion" 17 May 2007 10:21:26 PM
NOTE:
The author's website is incorrectly stated at the end of the essay below;
the correct address is http://ourcivilisation.com/ (not
http://ourcivilization.com/)
On Thu, 17 May 2007 19:42:48 -0700, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer wrote:

One need not agree with everything the British-born philosopher and
author of the following outstanding essay writes, but it's undeniable to
intelligent and perceptive observers that he's right on the mark on the
essentials, as was San Francisco's renowned "longshoreman-philospher" Eric
Hoffer, whose own thoughts on the "barbarians" of the 1960s Left have also
proven to be very prescient.
------------------------------------------------------
"The appearance of “terrorists” is in fact an unpleasant confirmation of
Professor Arnold Toynbee’s 1952 prediction that barbarian war bands would
attack our declining civilization. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson
offers a realistic view of our precarious predicament."

The Barbarians are Coming:
How Our Decaying Civilization Will End, Too Enfeebled to Resist Invasion

By Philip Atkinson
May 11, 2007
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=967010#

The Roman Wall

I was born in England, in the city of Newcastle-upon-Tyne which is proud of
its long history, which can easily be traced back to the period of ancient
Rome’s occupation of Britain. There are many vestiges of the occupation but
the most famous remains are those of Hadrian’s Wall. This was a stone wall
extending from the east coast to the west coast of England, built to
protect the Roman occupied country south of the wall from raids by northern
barbarians, or so I was taught. I have never questioned this explanation
until recent events have caused me to consider another purpose for
Hadrian’s Wall.

Barrier Only To Unarmed Invaders

The Roman wall would never have stopped an attacking army, unless it was
manned along its whole length. But to garrison the wall in such a fashion
would be to undermine the ability of the Roman army to confront a barbarian
host, who would invariably outnumber them. Dispersing its soldiers along an
80-mile front could not, and was not meant to, repel a mass attack, but to
overcome a problem identical to that which Western Civilization is now
facing. It was erected to stop the steady stream of migrants from the
barbarian-ruled areas entering the Roman Empire. And this was done because,
even though the barbarians entered the Empire peacefully, they did not come
to help the Roman Empire, but to exploit it. They did not want to become
citizens of Rome, but to retain their own culture within the Roman
community, which made them a liability to the Roman Empire.

Declining Culture Vulnerable To Parasites

The impact of the intrusion of an alien culture upon a failing culture is
similar to a parasitic attack suffered by any failing creature. Though the
citizens of a declining community are slowly losing their attachments to
their own community, they still feel some sense of obligation towards it.
It is their community, full of their own kind, which is their tribe, so
regardless of their growing indifference to their society’s tradition, they
still feel a concern for its welfare. Whereas migrants from alien cultures
have no such concerns; they are among strangers with a different culture.
These invaders have not come to improve their host’s society, but their
own, at the expense of their host. Hence such invading minority communities
are parasites upon their host community.

Parasitic Nature Of Invaders Initially Masked

Initially, while the invaders are present only in small numbers, they will
treat their host with care and respect. The contempt they must feel about
their host’s culture will be dissembled, along with their intention to
exploit the wealth of their host while avoiding any demands the host may
place upon them. They will naturally subscribe to those laws of the host
that carry the real threat of penalty or offer profit, but only because of
convenience, and not for respect for the notions underpinning those laws;
while all other laws of the host community will be silently treated with
contempt except in those rare instances where they match their own culture.
Incompatible Nature Of Invaders Will Eventually Be Revealed
As the invaders numbers grow so will their confidence and their own culture
will start to assert itself publicly. The invaders’ general contempt for
the culture of their host will become evident and will generate resentment
between the different cultures, but while this may fester and flare from
time to time, the host will confirm the decaying nature of its own culture
by being unable to take effective action against the invaders.

A Modern Wave Of Unarmed Invaders

In the last few decades those countries considered part of Western
Civilization have become subject to an unarmed invasion by other races and
cultures. The wealth and safety currently enjoyed by England, France,
Germany, USA, etc., have made them desirable places to live for the poor
and frightened of other countries, such as India, Pakistan, Mexico and
others. While this has been true for a long time, the barriers that
previously prevented the citizens of poor countries from migrating to the
wealthier countries have been removed. The previous firm resistance by the
citizens of the wealthier countries has been undermined by deterioration in
the character of their citizens.

Invasion Flows From Vigorous To Feeble

Once the citizens of Western Civilization were determined as well as able.
Therefore, they dominated the countries occupied by weaker cultures. These
subject countries became colonized— they were forced to adopt the language
and culture of Western Civilization— and the superior understanding of
Western civilization was promoted throughout the world, along with its
peace and wealth. However as the citizens of Western Civilization became
selfish, they lost their resolve, so the control exercised by Western
communities declined. This allowed the colonies to recover their
independence and re-assert their own culture, which inevitably obtained the
poverty and misrule, which had existed before colonialism. As Western
Civilization has abdicated its rule over its colonies, wealth and peace
have given way to poverty and anarchy. The example of the social collapse
of South Africa has been repeated all over Africa. For many citizens of
these colonies, modest means enjoyed in peace have been replaced by a
perilous poverty, and the only escape from this misery is to go to where
wealth and peace still exist, the home countries of their erstwhile
colonial rulers. The tide of influence has reversed. It is no longer
flowing from, but to, Western Civilization; and instead of peace and
wealth, it is poverty and anarchy that are now being spread.

Invasion Is Colonization

The result of this migration is inevitable. The invaders take over their
new homeland by sheer weight of numbers. The original manners, customs and
beliefs of the destination country are slowly replaced by those of their
invaders. This can be easily seen in the USA where the actual border with
Mexico is slowly moving further north every year. The culture of the white
Americans is being displaced by their mainly Hispanic invaders; peace and
wealth created by the white American culture are being replaced by poverty
and crime brought by the invaders. This represents a take-over made obvious
by the replacement of the use of the English language with Spanish. Miami
is now a Spanish-speaking city even though it is technically in America --
an English-speaking country.

Hadrian’s Wall in America

The Americans have naturally tried to halt this invasion but their efforts
are weak and ineffectual. The easiest way into America is by walking from
Mexico, where a patrolled fence has been erected as a barrier (like
Hadrian’s wall). Those Mexicans who are detected crossing the barrier are
merely returned to Mexico to try again. Those who cross undetected are
still subject to discovery but this is an unlikely fate, and the penalty is
just a return to Mexico to try again. In many cases, the enforced return
can be avoided by manipulation of the law.

Mexico now colonizing the USA

Mexico is now colonizing America and imposing its language and culture on
it. Though the Americans still have the strength of understanding to
recognize that the Hispanic invasion should be stopped, they are unable to
take the measures required to achieve this end. The very least that must be
done to halt the Hispanic invasion is the mass enslavement, or execution,
of the invaders, which must be followed by an American invasion of Mexico
to enforce American language and values upon the Mexicans. But the citizens
of the USA recoil from such ruthless violence embracing delusion instead.
They pretend that their futile defense is not folly, ignore the slow but
inevitable takeover of their country and persecute anyone who tries to
dispel their illusions. America has lost its ability to defend itself and
must eventually be overrun by people from other cultures.

Example Of American Failure Repeated

The example of the failure of the Americans to defend themselves is being
repeated by every Western country. Sharing the same lack of ruthlessness
required to repel their invaders these countries now find themselves no
longer a single community but a group of different communities of varying
races and cultures. Even Australia, which is isolated by vast areas of
ocean, is being subject to invasion, and while no single Australian city
has yet been taken over, there are now parts of these cities that mimic the
original homes of their invaders.

This same failure of the Western countries to defend themselves reveals how
the powerful understanding once created by Western Civilization has already
dissolved. The two awful signs of impending communal death -- the
extinction of genius and the loss of the military spirit -- are there for
all to see. The mainly selfish citizens that now comprise Western
Civilization may still possess the technology discovered by genius, but
they no longer have the wit or the resolution to employ it.

Colonize Or Be Colonized

The simple truth that different cultures are irreconcilable, and that one
must dominate the others, means that the now impotent cultures of Western
Civilization will be overrun. How a particular culture dominates, or
attempts to dominate, other cultures, naturally reflects the character of
that culture. The fact that the Americans refrain from killing their
enemies does not mean that their enemies will refrain from killing them, as
America was recently reminded. On September 11, 2001, around 3,000 people
were murdered in a barbarian raid upon the USA, when the fanatical
followers of an Islamic sect deliberately crashed hi-jacked passenger
planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The Barbarians Are Coming—With A New Dark Age

The World Trade Center attack is confirmation of Arnold Toynbee’s claim
that the decline of a civilization means the appearance of Barbarian
war-bands. And it is clear that, in one way or another, it is only a matter
of time before the increasing senility of the countries that make up the
Western world, will see them succumb to invaders. The result will be the
final extinction of Western Civilization, along with its wealth and power,
and a return to the Dark Ages: a time when there is no human community
anywhere that is sane.

# #

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson is the
British born founder of ourcivilization.com and author of A Study of Our
Decline. He is a philosopher specializing in issues concerning the
preservation of Western Civilization. Mr. Atkinson receives mail at
rpa@ourcivilisation.com.
© 2003-2007 FamilySecurityMatters.org All Rights Reserved
If you are a reporter or producer who is interested in receiving more
information about this writer or this article, please email your request to
COY7m@aol.com.
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:

"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")

-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Excerpt:

“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."

“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.

“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."

-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams

"“All great truths begin as heresies.”

-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens

--
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org

"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"“All great truths begin as heresies.”
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
.

User: "Ramon F Herrera"

Title: Why should "A Washington Admirer" have any credibility? 17 May 2007 11:42:15 PM
On May 17, 9:42 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer <guybannister at aol.com>
Why should we believe anything this person writes? He claims to be an
admirer of George Washington, and that's fine.
However, he is also an admirer of Guy Bannister, a sinister element
who was among those charged by the New Orleans DA, Jim Garrison in
the case of the assassination of the second most respected USA
president (after Lincoln), John F. Kennedy.
-Ramon
.
User: "Ramon F Herrera"

Title: Re: Why should "A Washington Admirer" have any credibility? 18 May 2007 12:09:55 AM
On May 17, 11:42 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:

On May 17, 9:42 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer <guybannister at aol.com>

Why should we believe anything this person writes? He claims
to be an admirer of George Washington, and that's fine.

However, he is also an admirer of Guy Bannister,
a sinister element who was among those charged by the
New Orleans DA, Jim Garrison in the case of the
assassination of the second most respected USA
president (after Lincoln), John F. Kennedy.

-Ramon

Mr. Admirer, a.k.a. "Guy Bannister at aol dot com" has a very dubious
cast of characters as object of his admiration. One can only guess
that his feelings are reciprocated from a very warm place by one of
the intellectual assassins of our 35th. president. Alas, somewhat I
doubt that our 1st. President reciprocates the feelings from such a
despicable person, undeserving of carrying the citizenship of this
great country.
In addition to a would-be presidential assassin, Mr. Admirer is also
proud to support a Colorado politician:
""All great truths begin as heresies."
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
Let's take a look at Mr. Lamm's main achievement. There was indeed a
movement that ended in Colorado having the strongest anti-immigrant
regulations. These are the results of such witch hunt:
"Seven months ago, Colorado passed one of the toughest set of anti-
immigration laws in the country. Now, heads of state agencies report
that illegal immigrants really didn't use state services - and the new
laws cost more to implement than they save".
"A few weeks back, Colorado lawmakers asked agencies to tally up the
costs and savings of the new law. In all, the state has spent over $2
million to implement it and the savings from kicking migrants here
illegally off the welfare rolls?: Nada".
"Heads of state agencies report that illegal immigrants really didn't
use state services".
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7382343
So, he admires a murderer and a demagogue who wastes taxpayers money
to further his political career based on hate.
Some admirees...
-Ramon
"I detest that person who claims to admire me".
Signed:
George Washington
.


User: "Ramon F Herrera"

Title: Re: Why should "A Washington Admirer" have any credibility? 18 May 2007 11:39:21 AM
On May 17, 9:42 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer <guybannister at aol.com>
Why should we believe anything this person writes? He claims to be an
admirer of George Washington, and that's fine.
However, he is also an admirer of Guy Bannister, a sinister element
who was among those charged by the New Orleans DA, Jim Garrison in
the case of the assassination of the second most respected USA
president (after Lincoln), John F. Kennedy.
-Ramon
.


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