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"Ms My Rights" |
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29 Nov 2006 05:44:21 PM |
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THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL |
THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
The Brady Bunch is already licking their collective lips in
anticipation of the new Congress being seated. Visit the Brady
Campaign's website and you will see talk of a "momentum
shift" in our nation's capital that will "make it hard for the gun lobby
to weaken gun laws and creates opportunities for passage of common sense
[sic] gun proposals."
Indeed, the attack has already begun.
BRADY BUNCH ATTACKING GOA
Earlier this month, the Brady Campaign asked the Federal Election
Commission to investigate GOA's practice of posting its candidate
ratings on the Internet. Millions of gun owners rely on these
ratings, and that is something the Brady Bunch would like to halt.
In 2002, the Bradys rejoiced when Congress passed the Incumbent
Protect Act, stating that "now the gun lobby's stranglehold on
Congress will be broken." Indeed, they want to make it illegal for
GOA to tell gun owners what their legislators are actually doing.
But it should not surprise anyone that a group which doesn't
understand the Second Amendment does not understand First Amendment
freedoms as well.
Realize that we are going to need your help more than ever in 2007.
Because of this recent Brady assault, we could be looking at a very
costly court battle that could eventually go all the way to the
Supreme Court.
Gun Owners is not going to back down, however, from the Brady
Campaign's intimidation tactics. We realize that these candidate
ratings are extremely important, for they force your legislators to
stay in the light.
But the Brady Bunch wants to keep you in the dark! They don't want
you to know the truth. The more they can hide what anti-gun
legislators are doing, the greater their ability to take away your
guns.
Oh sure, they say they just want to take guns out of the "wrong
hands." Yeah right. If that were true, then why don't they support
legislation to repeal the DC gun ban?
The answer is obvious, they support the DC gun ban, and they want to
export it to the rest of the country. Do you remember them joining
with us to work for the DC gun ban's repeal? Of course not! Do you
remember seeing them on our amicus brief to strike down the recent
San Francisco handgun ban? No way! They support gun bans, despite
all their claims for only supporting "common sense" gun
restrictions.
For them, "common sense" gun control means that only the police and
the military have free access to guns... just like in England.
GOA SUPPORTING BILL TO REPEAL NATIONAL PARKS GUN BAN
Well, GOA is going to stand in their way, even if it means that we
have to fight a lone battle for gun owners, as we did earlier this
year when we were the ONLY gun group in Washington opposing the
McCarthy gun grab.
Even now, there is still work to be done. GOA helped Sen. George
Allen (R-VA) draft legislation to repeal the gun ban in national
parks. (Two other Virginia groups -- Virginia Gun Owners and VCDL --
did a lot of heavy lifting on this issue as well.) There is little time
left for this legislation to pass, so gun owners should call Senate
Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) at 202-224-3344 (or fax him at
202-228-1264) and ask him to fast track the Allen bill (S. 4057).
BIG THREAT POSED BY DEMOCRAT ANTI-GUN CONGRESS
But the real challenge to our gun rights is that we will have to
spend a good bit of the next two years fighting defensive battles, as
we will see the following types of legislation:
* Bans on ammunition
* Expansion of the Brady data base to include the names of countless,
law-abiding gun owners
* A re-authorization of the semi-auto gun ban (a ban which President
Bush is on record as supporting!)
* A prohibition on gun shows
* A gun ban that will prohibit any handgun from being sold which can
not be "personalized" -- thus preventing loved ones from using a
spouse's firearm in an emergency.
All of these ideas were introduced by Democrat congressmen this past
year. With their new majority, you can expect these bills -- and
others -- to start moving quickly.
STOPPING BRADY EXPANSION JUST GOT MUCH TOUGHER
Because of your efforts, GOA was able to single-handedly kill the
Brady expansion this year. The bill was introduced by Rep. Carolyn
McCarthy (D-NY) and was expected to pass easily. It was considered
to be "non-controversial" because pro-gun lobbyists in Washington
were telling legislators they could vote for the bill.
But congressmen didn't hear that from Gun Owners. You can read the
details in our upcoming newsletter, to find out just how we fought
the lone battle to kill this pernicious piece of legislation.
The December issue of The Gun Owners will encourage those of you who
are already receiving our newsletter. However, you should realize
that the attacks on our gun rights are about to escalate, as a result
of the new Congress that was just elected.
With only GOA opposing this insidious gun grab, it is going to be a
lot harder to stop in the new Congress.
GOA NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!
As you can see, GOA is going to need a huge war chest over the next
two years, if we are going to stay in the fight and protect your
Second Amendment rights -- as well as GOA's ability to keep you and
the public informed.
The FEC court battle alone could cost thousands upon thousands of
dollars. In real terms, we could be fighting battles at every level
of the federal government -- in the legislative, judicial and
executive branches. (Don't think for a moment that President Bush --
who is himself a supporter of the semi-auto gun ban -- is going to
lift a finger to help us.)
We look forward to the fight, but we can't fight these battles
without YOU. Our members are our strength. It is because of you
that one legislative office told us this year: "Oh s--t! We got a
lot of postcards and e-mails from GOA members."
That answer right there explains why the McCarthy gun grab is dead
for the year! It is because of your hard work.
So will you continue to stand with us?
Please say that you will by going to
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm and signing up or renewing
your membership. A $20 membership with Gun Owners of America is the
best bargain in town. For a mere nickel a day, you will be helping
to preserve your gun rights for future generations.
Or maybe you've been with us for a while and you want to make the
ultimate contribution to the organization that is standing firm on
the front lines. Would you consider becoming a Life Member of Gun
Owners?
In addition to getting our newsletter, The Gun Owners, special
reports, legislative action updates and all the other regular
benefits of membership, Life Members will also receive a certificate
-- suitable for framing -- identifying you as a GOA Life Member, a
unique lapel pin, and a wallet card that only Life Members and Senior
Staff at GOA are allowed to carry.
Maybe you've never received our informative newsletters and
legislative alerts (with postcards). If that's the case, you can
start receiving those right away by signing up today with a $20
contribution -- or more, if you can afford it.
Your contribution will NOT be wasted.
Senator David Vitter of Louisiana has said that: "Gun Owners of
America is one of the most effective and important political
organizations in this country.... [They] can mobilize gun owners from
all across America, uniting them into a single powerful voice that
politicians in Washington dare not ignore."
We've been fighting for your rights, without compromise, for more
than 30 years!
But we need you now more than ever. We need you to say that you will
stand with us and work together to protect the rights that have
helped keep our nation free for so long.
Thank you in advance for your support!
****************************
Please do not reply directly to this message, as your reply will
bounce back as undeliverable.
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address may also be made at that location.
To unsubscribe send a message to
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goamail@gunowners.org is at your disposal. Please do not add that
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IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Why is it that the liberals define things as slavery that aren’t
slavery, like voluntary mutually consenting employer-employee
relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
like taxation?
.
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| User: "Trumpet" |
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| Title: Re: THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL |
29 Nov 2006 11:44:51 PM |
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"Ms My Rights" <spoofedatnospam@individual.yes> wrote in message
news:Xns988AAA4ACE078IndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
The Brady Bunch is already licking their collective lips in
anticipation of the new Congress being seated. Visit the Brady
Campaign's website and you will see talk of a "momentum
shift" in our nation's capital that will "make it hard for the gun lobby
to weaken gun laws and creates opportunities for passage of common sense
[sic] gun proposals."
Indeed, the attack has already begun.
BRADY BUNCH ATTACKING GOA
Earlier this month, the Brady Campaign asked the Federal Election
Commission to investigate GOA's practice of posting its candidate
ratings on the Internet. Millions of gun owners rely on these
ratings, and that is something the Brady Bunch would like to halt.
In 2002, the Bradys rejoiced when Congress passed the Incumbent
Protect Act, stating that "now the gun lobby's stranglehold on
Congress will be broken." Indeed, they want to make it illegal for
GOA to tell gun owners what their legislators are actually doing.
But it should not surprise anyone that a group which doesn't
understand the Second Amendment does not understand First Amendment
freedoms as well.
Realize that we are going to need your help more than ever in 2007.
Because of this recent Brady assault, we could be looking at a very
costly court battle that could eventually go all the way to the
Supreme Court.
Gun Owners is not going to back down, however, from the Brady
Campaign's intimidation tactics. We realize that these candidate
ratings are extremely important, for they force your legislators to
stay in the light.
But the Brady Bunch wants to keep you in the dark! They don't want
you to know the truth. The more they can hide what anti-gun
legislators are doing, the greater their ability to take away your
guns.
Oh sure, they say they just want to take guns out of the "wrong
hands." Yeah right. If that were true, then why don't they support
legislation to repeal the DC gun ban?
The answer is obvious, they support the DC gun ban, and they want to
export it to the rest of the country. Do you remember them joining
with us to work for the DC gun ban's repeal? Of course not! Do you
remember seeing them on our amicus brief to strike down the recent
San Francisco handgun ban? No way! They support gun bans, despite
all their claims for only supporting "common sense" gun
restrictions.
For them, "common sense" gun control means that only the police and
the military have free access to guns... just like in England.
GOA SUPPORTING BILL TO REPEAL NATIONAL PARKS GUN BAN
Well, GOA is going to stand in their way, even if it means that we
have to fight a lone battle for gun owners, as we did earlier this
year when we were the ONLY gun group in Washington opposing the
McCarthy gun grab.
Even now, there is still work to be done. GOA helped Sen. George
Allen (R-VA) draft legislation to repeal the gun ban in national
parks. (Two other Virginia groups -- Virginia Gun Owners and VCDL --
did a lot of heavy lifting on this issue as well.) There is little time
left for this legislation to pass, so gun owners should call Senate
Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) at 202-224-3344 (or fax him at
202-228-1264) and ask him to fast track the Allen bill (S. 4057).
BIG THREAT POSED BY DEMOCRAT ANTI-GUN CONGRESS
But the real challenge to our gun rights is that we will have to
spend a good bit of the next two years fighting defensive battles, as
we will see the following types of legislation:
* Bans on ammunition
* Expansion of the Brady data base to include the names of countless,
law-abiding gun owners
* A re-authorization of the semi-auto gun ban (a ban which President
Bush is on record as supporting!)
* A prohibition on gun shows
* A gun ban that will prohibit any handgun from being sold which can
not be "personalized" -- thus preventing loved ones from using a
spouse's firearm in an emergency.
All of these ideas were introduced by Democrat congressmen this past
year. With their new majority, you can expect these bills -- and
others -- to start moving quickly.
STOPPING BRADY EXPANSION JUST GOT MUCH TOUGHER
Because of your efforts, GOA was able to single-handedly kill the
Brady expansion this year. The bill was introduced by Rep. Carolyn
McCarthy (D-NY) and was expected to pass easily. It was considered
to be "non-controversial" because pro-gun lobbyists in Washington
were telling legislators they could vote for the bill.
But congressmen didn't hear that from Gun Owners. You can read the
details in our upcoming newsletter, to find out just how we fought
the lone battle to kill this pernicious piece of legislation.
The December issue of The Gun Owners will encourage those of you who
are already receiving our newsletter. However, you should realize
that the attacks on our gun rights are about to escalate, as a result
of the new Congress that was just elected.
With only GOA opposing this insidious gun grab, it is going to be a
lot harder to stop in the new Congress.
GOA NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!
As you can see, GOA is going to need a huge war chest over the next
two years, if we are going to stay in the fight and protect your
Second Amendment rights -- as well as GOA's ability to keep you and
the public informed.
The FEC court battle alone could cost thousands upon thousands of
dollars. In real terms, we could be fighting battles at every level
of the federal government -- in the legislative, judicial and
executive branches. (Don't think for a moment that President Bush --
who is himself a supporter of the semi-auto gun ban -- is going to
lift a finger to help us.)
We look forward to the fight, but we can't fight these battles
without YOU. Our members are our strength. It is because of you
that one legislative office told us this year: "Oh s--t! We got a
lot of postcards and e-mails from GOA members."
That answer right there explains why the McCarthy gun grab is dead
for the year! It is because of your hard work.
So will you continue to stand with us?
Please say that you will by going to
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm and signing up or renewing
your membership. A $20 membership with Gun Owners of America is the
best bargain in town. For a mere nickel a day, you will be helping
to preserve your gun rights for future generations.
Or maybe you've been with us for a while and you want to make the
ultimate contribution to the organization that is standing firm on
the front lines. Would you consider becoming a Life Member of Gun
Owners?
In addition to getting our newsletter, The Gun Owners, special
reports, legislative action updates and all the other regular
benefits of membership, Life Members will also receive a certificate
-- suitable for framing -- identifying you as a GOA Life Member, a
unique lapel pin, and a wallet card that only Life Members and Senior
Staff at GOA are allowed to carry.
Maybe you've never received our informative newsletters and
legislative alerts (with postcards). If that's the case, you can
start receiving those right away by signing up today with a $20
contribution -- or more, if you can afford it.
Your contribution will NOT be wasted.
Senator David Vitter of Louisiana has said that: "Gun Owners of
America is one of the most effective and important political
organizations in this country.... [They] can mobilize gun owners from
all across America, uniting them into a single powerful voice that
politicians in Washington dare not ignore."
We've been fighting for your rights, without compromise, for more
than 30 years!
But we need you now more than ever. We need you to say that you will
stand with us and work together to protect the rights that have
helped keep our nation free for so long.
Thank you in advance for your support!
****************************
Please do not reply directly to this message, as your reply will
bounce back as undeliverable.
To subscribe to free, low-volume GOA alerts, go to
http://www.gunowners.org/ean.htm on the web. Change of e-mail
address may also be made at that location.
To unsubscribe send a message to
gunowners_list@capwiz.mailmanager.net with the word unsubscribe in
the subject line or use the url below.
Problems, questions or comments? The main GOA e-mail address
goamail@gunowners.org is at your disposal. Please do not add that
address to distribution lists sending more than ten messages per
week or lists associated with issues other than gun rights.
---
If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from us, please visit
http://capwiz.com/gunowners/lmx/u/?jobid=76536095&queueid=968164751.
--
IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Ms My Rights, take a chill pill. You're gonna worry yerself into
anemia.......
Check this out: The people who gave the democrats the majority in the
senate and the house are "swing votes."
These are former republicans who jumped over the fence and voted for
democratic candidates.
Now "typically" Republicans are pretty keen on gun rights.
So in order to keep their new "swing votes", the democrats know they can't
say much about gun control or they will lose the swing vote they need for
the Whitehouse in '08.
So, for 2 years we're pretty safe.
After that, things might get interesting, OR NOT! We're not the same nation
who agreed to weapon bans--ALMOST 20 YRS AGO.
I don't think the country will go back to that era in our history.
N. Korea has nukes, Iran will have nukes soon-if they don't have them
already.
The threat from overseas terrorism is quite real, the big question is when.
I don't figure that americans will allow themselves to be "ballistically
challenged" in the face of new threats here at home.
Mark my words here and now!
We will hear nothing substantive on gun control from the Democrats. It is
not in their best interest, and believe me, Democrats ALWAYS do what is in
their best interest. (You'd be an idiot to think differently, IMHO)
Trumpet
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| User: "Ms My Rights" |
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| Title: Re: THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL |
30 Nov 2006 12:28:44 AM |
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"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
Check this out: The people who gave the democrats the majority in
the senate and the house are "swing votes."
These are former republicans who jumped over the fence and voted for
democratic candidates.
Now "typically" Republicans are pretty keen on gun rights.
So in order to keep their new "swing votes", the democrats know they
can't say much about gun control or they will lose the swing vote
they need for the Whitehouse in '08.
So, for 2 years we're pretty safe.
After that, things might get interesting, OR NOT! We're not the same
nation who agreed to weapon bans--ALMOST 20 YRS AGO.
I don't think the country will go back to that era in our history.
N. Korea has nukes, Iran will have nukes soon-if they don't have them
already.
The threat from overseas terrorism is quite real, the big question is
when. I don't figure that americans will allow themselves to be
"ballistically challenged" in the face of new threats here at home.
Mark my words here and now!
We will hear nothing substantive on gun control from the Democrats.
It is not in their best interest, and believe me, Democrats ALWAYS do
what is in their best interest. (You'd be an idiot to think
differently, IMHO)
LOL! That's why that commie Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat away from the
presidency next year!
--
IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Why is it that the liberals define things as slavery that aren’t
slavery, like voluntary mutually consenting employer-employee
relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
like taxation?
.
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| User: "Trumpet" |
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| Title: Re: THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL |
30 Nov 2006 03:45:16 AM |
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"Ms My Rights" <spoofedatnospam@individual.yep> wrote in message
news:Xns988AEEDA880D2IndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
Check this out: The people who gave the democrats the majority in
the senate and the house are "swing votes."
These are former republicans who jumped over the fence and voted for
democratic candidates.
Now "typically" Republicans are pretty keen on gun rights.
So in order to keep their new "swing votes", the democrats know they
can't say much about gun control or they will lose the swing vote
they need for the Whitehouse in '08.
So, for 2 years we're pretty safe.
After that, things might get interesting, OR NOT! We're not the same
nation who agreed to weapon bans--ALMOST 20 YRS AGO.
I don't think the country will go back to that era in our history.
N. Korea has nukes, Iran will have nukes soon-if they don't have them
already.
The threat from overseas terrorism is quite real, the big question is
when. I don't figure that americans will allow themselves to be
"ballistically challenged" in the face of new threats here at home.
Mark my words here and now!
We will hear nothing substantive on gun control from the Democrats.
It is not in their best interest, and believe me, Democrats ALWAYS do
what is in their best interest. (You'd be an idiot to think
differently, IMHO)
LOL! That's why that commie Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat away from the
presidency next year!
Pelosi? President '08? You've got to be joking! There is NO WAY a female
will be on the democratic ticket in '08. Let alone Pelosi. She has to run
congress successfully first. No doubt at some point she'll catch a tit in
the wringer, trying to control the republicans, and that will be that.
Don't even think about Hillary. Too many people out there just plain hate
her. They are pissed at her because she didn't divorce Bill or because she
had a lot influence in Bill's administration or because of whitewater and
futures tradings. The fact of the matter is over 30% of american voters
dislike her intensely. You figure the DNC doesn't know that?
Plus it is highly unlikely a woman will be elected to Pres. or V.P. before a
minority male. Our country is still pretty conservative that way.
Unless something interesting happens with Barak Obama, you can expect the
democrats to put up 2 white males for '08.
Remember, "Ms.My Rights", the crappy ***** rightwing scare tactics about gun
bans just don't fly any more. Lots of people have internet access, and
these assinine claims just don't hold up under close scrutiny- which is just
a click away.
Trumpet
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| User: "Ms My Rights" |
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30 Nov 2006 02:42:53 PM |
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"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
"Ms My Rights" <spoofedatnospam@individual.yep> wrote in message
news:Xns988AEEDA880D2IndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
Check this out: The people who gave the democrats the majority in
the senate and the house are "swing votes."
These are former republicans who jumped over the fence and voted
for democratic candidates.
Now "typically" Republicans are pretty keen on gun rights.
So in order to keep their new "swing votes", the democrats know
they can't say much about gun control or they will lose the swing
vote they need for the Whitehouse in '08.
So, for 2 years we're pretty safe.
After that, things might get interesting, OR NOT! We're not the
same nation who agreed to weapon bans--ALMOST 20 YRS AGO.
I don't think the country will go back to that era in our history.
N. Korea has nukes, Iran will have nukes soon-if they don't have
them already.
The threat from overseas terrorism is quite real, the big question
is when. I don't figure that americans will allow themselves to be
"ballistically challenged" in the face of new threats here at home.
Mark my words here and now!
We will hear nothing substantive on gun control from the Democrats.
It is not in their best interest, and believe me, Democrats ALWAYS
do what is in their best interest. (You'd be an idiot to think
differently, IMHO)
LOL! That's why that commie Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat away from
the presidency next year!
Pelosi? President '08? You've got to be joking!
Not what I said. I said that as of next year she would be a heartbeat
away from the presidency. If the Democrats ( or any other enemy ) could
manage to kill Bush and Cheney at the same time, she's next in line to
be President. Are people THAT stupid, to not realize this, and make her
speaker of the house?
There is NO WAY a
female will be on the democratic ticket in '08. Let alone Pelosi.
Don't count in that. Hellary is very likely to.
Don't even think about Hillary. Too many people out there just plain
hate her.
She's the Democratic front runner with the most money right now. She has
a huge war chest.
They are pissed at her because she didn't divorce Bill or
because she had a lot influence in Bill's administration or because
of whitewater and futures tradings. The fact of the matter is over
30% of american voters dislike her intensely. You figure the DNC
doesn't know that?
The lefties are wild about her.
Plus it is highly unlikely a woman will be elected to Pres. or V.P.
before a minority male. Our country is still pretty conservative
that way.
Unless something interesting happens with Barak Obama, you can expect
the democrats to put up 2 white males for '08.
Remember, "Ms.My Rights", the crappy ***** rightwing scare tactics
about gun bans just don't fly any more. Lots of people have
internet access, and these assinine claims just don't hold up under
close scrutiny- which is just a click away.
So says the left. Just watch, as they try to pass more gunbans next
year.
--
IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Why is it that the liberals define things as slavery that aren’t
slavery, like voluntary mutually consenting employer-employee
relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
like taxation?
.
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| User: "Trumpet" |
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| Title: Re: THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL |
30 Nov 2006 11:34:59 PM |
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"Ms My Rights" <spoofedatnospam@individual.yep> wrote in message
news:Xns988B8B87FFD4EIndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
"Ms My Rights" <spoofedatnospam@individual.yep> wrote in message
news:Xns988AEEDA880D2IndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
Check this out: The people who gave the democrats the majority in
the senate and the house are "swing votes."
These are former republicans who jumped over the fence and voted
for democratic candidates.
Now "typically" Republicans are pretty keen on gun rights.
So in order to keep their new "swing votes", the democrats know
they can't say much about gun control or they will lose the swing
vote they need for the Whitehouse in '08.
So, for 2 years we're pretty safe.
After that, things might get interesting, OR NOT! We're not the
same nation who agreed to weapon bans--ALMOST 20 YRS AGO.
I don't think the country will go back to that era in our history.
N. Korea has nukes, Iran will have nukes soon-if they don't have
them already.
The threat from overseas terrorism is quite real, the big question
is when. I don't figure that americans will allow themselves to be
"ballistically challenged" in the face of new threats here at home.
Mark my words here and now!
We will hear nothing substantive on gun control from the Democrats.
It is not in their best interest, and believe me, Democrats ALWAYS
do what is in their best interest. (You'd be an idiot to think
differently, IMHO)
LOL! That's why that commie Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat away from
the presidency next year!
Pelosi? President '08? You've got to be joking!
Not what I said. I said that as of next year she would be a heartbeat
away from the presidency. If the Democrats ( or any other enemy ) could
manage to kill Bush and Cheney at the same time, she's next in line to
be President. Are people THAT stupid, to not realize this, and make her
speaker of the house?
There is NO WAY a
female will be on the democratic ticket in '08. Let alone Pelosi.
Don't count in that. Hellary is very likely to.
Don't even think about Hillary. Too many people out there just plain
hate her.
She's the Democratic front runner with the most money right now. She has
a huge war chest.
They are pissed at her because she didn't divorce Bill or
because she had a lot influence in Bill's administration or because
of whitewater and futures tradings. The fact of the matter is over
30% of american voters dislike her intensely. You figure the DNC
doesn't know that?
The lefties are wild about her.
Plus it is highly unlikely a woman will be elected to Pres. or V.P.
before a minority male. Our country is still pretty conservative
that way.
Unless something interesting happens with Barak Obama, you can expect
the democrats to put up 2 white males for '08.
Remember, "Ms.My Rights", the crappy ***** rightwing scare tactics
about gun bans just don't fly any more. Lots of people have
internet access, and these assinine claims just don't hold up under
close scrutiny- which is just a click away.
So says the left. Just watch, as they try to pass more gunbans next
year.
Just because Hillary has a big war chest doesn't mean that the Democratic
Party will automatically allow her to run. Democratic Party has a pretty
good idea who likes her and who doesn't.
She has huge popularity issues. Most Democrats are not in her corner. Most
are waiting to see who else will run in the primaries.
Hillary will participate in the primaries and caucuses and will fail to get
enough wins to put her on the ticket. Remember- Hillary is not the whole
party, not by a long shot. You watch, the democratic party are not about to
do another "Fritz n' tits". They they are very serious about the
whitehouse. The DNC will not allow a Female candidate in '08.
The current Democratic favorites are Barak Obama, Jon Edwards. Both are
real comers with lots of popular support. These guys are favored to get the
Lion's Share of the primaries.
Gun control is dead until after '08. If you don't think I'm right, "Ms My
Rights", I'll happily put up a hefty wager.
There will be no substantive movement on gun control by the Democrats. They
might send up a flier, but that'll be it. The Democrats know they will
loose their swing votes otherwise.
These silly, crappy-***** scare tactic alerts are so far from the truth, its
not funny. Its a wonder ANYone listens.
Don't simply accept what people tell you is the truth, go look for
yourself! Do the research! With a computer it is so fast and easy! Find
out what people really said, and when.
Trumpet
Trumpet
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01 Dec 2006 12:14:33 AM |
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"Trumpet" <probin1@ca.rr.com> wrote :
Just because Hillary has a big war chest doesn't mean that the
Democratic Party will automatically allow her to run. Democratic
Party has a pretty good idea who likes her and who doesn't.
I don't think they have a choice. If the people vote for her in the
primary, she wins the primary.
She has huge popularity issues. Most Democrats are not in her
corner. Most are waiting to see who else will run in the primaries.
Ok well...
Hillary will participate in the primaries and caucuses and will fail
to get enough wins to put her on the ticket. Remember- Hillary is
not the whole party, not by a long shot.
Oh but they'll bury her anti-RKBA fanaticism and appeal to people
wanting the first woman president, painting her as "moderate". The
lefties who hate her for supporting the war will forget all that, in the
face of the horror of having another Republican president. ( not that a
Republican president would be any different next time, all the current
front runners are "moderate" anti-RKBA RINO's )
You watch, the democratic
party are not about to do another "Fritz n' tits". They they are
very serious about the whitehouse. The DNC will not allow a Female
candidate in '08.
We'll see.
The current Democratic favorites are Barak Obama, Jon Edwards. Both
are real comers with lots of popular support. These guys are favored
to get the Lion's Share of the primaries.
Edwards is damaged goods from Kerry, and Obama is inexperienced, not to
mention the fact ( whisper ) that most Americans probably wouldn't want
to vote for a black person for President, at least not a liberal one. (
I wish Condi would run, but she's conservative and therefore not popular
)
Gun control is dead until after '08. If you don't think I'm right,
"Ms My Rights", I'll happily put up a hefty wager.
I agree with you in one respect. The Democrats will NOT want to mention
a word about it until after they get their President elected in '08,
THEN it will hit the fan.
There will be no substantive movement on gun control by the
Democrats. They might send up a flier, but that'll be it. The
Democrats know they will loose their swing votes otherwise.
I think the usual suspects like Schumer, Pelosi and Kennedy will push
for more of it before '08, but they can get away with it because their
choirs are with them on the issue, it helps, doesn't hurt them.
But the big presidential hopefuls like Hellary, Giuliani, Romney and
McCain won't breathe a word about wanting gun control until after one of
them gets elected.
These silly, crappy-***** scare tactic alerts are so far from the
truth, its not funny. Its a wonder ANYone listens.
I don't think they're tactics, these guys want to ban RKBA and they're
serious. I even hear whining about the NRA and Republicans not wanting
to accept the UN global gunban treaty, as if that was a bad thing!
Don't simply accept what people tell you is the truth, go look for
yourself! Do the research! With a computer it is so fast and easy!
Find out what people really said, and when.
Sure.
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common
good." - Hillary Clinton
"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what
is best for society." -- Hillary Clinton, 1993
"I don't understand how someone could be a Christian and a Republican at
the same time." - Hillary Clinton ( according to ***** Morris on Fox News
5-10-04 )
We have to make sure that our schools are safe. Our schools need more
help from parents and from communities, and we also need more social
workers and counselors who are trained to see the early warning signs.
No school security system or metal detector can keep out the culture of
violence that dominates the lives of so many of our children. We have to
address issues of culture, and we have to ensure that young people do
not have easy access to weapons; not only firearms but bomb making
material. - Hillary Clinton Source: www.hillary2000.org, "Safe
Schools" Sep 9, 2000
"I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone
who wishes to purchase a gun," Clinton said. "I also believe that every
new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national
registry, such as Chuck is proposing." - Hillary Clinton Source:
CNN.com Jun 2, 2000
We will not make progress on a sensible gun control agenda unless the
entire American public gets behind it. It is really important for each
of you [kids] to make sure you stay away from guns. If you have guns in
your home, tell your parents to keep them away from you and your friends
and your little brothers and sisters. - Hillary Clinton Source: Forum
at South Side Middle School in Nassau County Jul 15, 1999
If you own a gun... make sure it's locked up and stored without the
ammunition. In fact, make it stored where the ammunition is stored
separately. We've made some progress in the last several years with the
Brady Bill and some of the bans on assault weapons, but we have a lot of
work to do. - Hillary Clinton
Source: ABC's "Good Morning America" Jun 4, 1999
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel
safe." --U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein Associated Press 11/18/93 Member HCI
National Committee
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for
an_out_right_ban, picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America,
turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I_could_not do that. The votes
weren't here." --U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60
Minutes," 2/5/95 Member HCI National Committee
"Mr. Speaker, I still believe that the best way to control handguns is
to ban them outright." -- Rep. Cardiss Collins (D-IL)
"No, we are not looking at how to control criminals, we are talking
about banning the AK47 and semi-automatic guns!"
-- Senator Metzenbaum (D-OH), during the Constitution Subcommittee of
2/10/89
"Until we can ban all of them we might as well ban none." --U.S. Sen.
Howard Metzenbaum Senate Hearings 1993
"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." --U.S. Sen. Joseph Biden
Associated Press 11/18/93
"Our ultimate goal - total control of handguns in the United States - is
going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem
is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country.
The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem
is to make the possession of *all* handguns and *all* handgun ammunition
-- except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards,
licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors -- totally
illegal." - Nelson T. "Pete" Shields; Chairman, HCI "A Reporter At
Large: Handguns", _The New Yorker_, July 26, 1976, 57-58
"It is our aim to ban the manufacture and sale of handguns to private
individuals. . .the coalition's emphasis is to keep handguns out of
private possession -- where they do the most harm." --Recruiting flyer
currently distributed by "The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence", formerly
called "The National Coalition to Ban Handguns"
"The goal of CSGV is the orderly elimination of most handguns and
assault weapons from the United States. CSGV seeks to ban handguns and
assault weapons from importation, manufacture, sale, transfer,
ownership, posession and use by the general, American public.
Reasonable exceptions would be made for the police, military, security
officers, and gun clubs where the guns are secured on the club's
premises. Gun dealers would also be permitted to trade in antique and
collectable weapons kept and sold in inoperable condition. Hunting
weapons, such as shotguns and rifles would unaffected by these bans,as
those weapons do not pose a large threat to the American public in
comparason to handguns and assault weapons" --Recruiting flyer currently
distributed by "The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence", formerly called
"The National Coalition to Ban Handguns"
"there would be a regulatory body ... certainly we would not allow semi-
automatic assault weapons to be manufactured and sold, and we believe
that, ultimately, handguns would be phased out through such an agency."
Tom Diaz, policy analyst for the Violence Policy Center, on an interview
on National Public Radio's "Fresh Air" program broadcast
January 20, 1999
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for
an outright ban, picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America,
turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes
weren't here." --U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60
Minutes," 2/5/95 Member HCI National Committee
"Sir, we're not hiding behind anything. We ... we endorse a handgun ban.
I will tell you that right now. We absolutely endorse that ban..." --
Susan Glick, of the Violence Policy Center in Washington D.C.; in
response to a caller's comments during the radio talk show "Front Page",
hosted by Sue Wiley, on WVLK Radio 590 am, in Lexington, Kentucky on
December 3, 1997 Caller Mark: "Now you're saying that's what your
ultimate goal is..." Glick: "That's right, and we are absolutely vocal
about it...,,
"[All firearms] ...should be outlawed. Our organization will probably
take this stand in time but we are not anxious to rouse the opposition
before we get the other legislation passed." -- Elliot Corbett,
Secretary, National Council For A Responsible Firearms Policy (interview
appeared in the Washington Evening Star on September 19, 1969).
"As you know, my position is we should ban all handguns, get rid of
them, no manufacture, no sale, no importation, no transportation, no
possession of a handgun." -Senator Chafee. (R-RI)
"We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
Oops...
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IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Why is it that the liberals define things as slavery that aren’t
slavery, like voluntary mutually consenting employer-employee
relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
like taxation?
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| User: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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29 Nov 2006 07:01:29 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:44:21 -0600, Ms My Rights
<spoofedatnospam@individual.yes> wrote:
THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
The Brady Bunch is already licking their collective lips in
anticipation of the new Congress being seated. Visit the Brady
Campaign's website and you will see talk of a "momentum
shift" in our nation's capital that will "make it hard for the gun lobby
to weaken gun laws and creates opportunities for passage of common sense
[sic] gun proposals."
Indeed, the attack has already begun.
I've already told you gun loonies how to shut up the lib gun-grabbers.
Point out that americans kill MORE of their fellow citizens with cars
than with guns and yet none ofthe libs want to do anything about that.
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30 Nov 2006 07:51:39 PM |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:44:21 -0600, Ms My Rights
<spoofedatnospam@individual.yes> wrote:
THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE HILL
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
The Brady Bunch is already licking their collective lips in
anticipation of the new Congress being seated. Visit the Brady
Campaign's website and you will see talk of a "momentum
shift" in our nation's capital that will "make it hard for the gun lobby
to weaken gun laws and creates opportunities for passage of common sense
[sic] gun proposals."
Indeed, the attack has already begun.
I've already told you gun loonies how to shut up the lib gun-grabbers.
Point out that americans kill MORE of their fellow citizens with cars
than with guns and yet none ofthe libs want to do anything about that.
That never works with Democrats, since the only thing
they know about guns is New York City Squuegee Operators,
and the only they know about cars is 7-11 Restrooms.
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